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Everything Wands, - including the Elder Wand
Aphrodites Lady
post Apr 11 2005, 05:24 PM
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I'm just curious if anyone knew how wands are made? How do you determine what kind of wood to use and what's there core? I'm not sure what JKR has said about all of this.


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post Apr 12 2005, 09:13 AM
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On JKR's website she discusses the trio's wands.  Their wands correspond to trees that were assigned to different parts of the year by the Celts--similar to birth stones, the trio have Celtic wood wands that correspond to their birthdays.  They are the only characters of which this is true.

Harry's is Holly and Phoenix feather.  Hermione's is Vine wood and dragon heartstring and Ron's is Ash and Unicorn tail-hair.

Holly is derived from the word Holy.  Voldemort's wand is yew, which is ominous--and I believe is the wood of death and rebirth.

She also mentions that Hagrid's wand (umbrella) is oak--the king of the forest--symbolizing strength and power.
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post Apr 12 2005, 10:19 AM
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Wands are created from wood with some magical substance at its heart. Wands are classified by means of four characteristics: length, type of wood, quality of motion when waved, and type of magical ingredient. The woods come from Celtic lore, just as ramsey said. As for how wands are chosen, as Mr. Ollivander says, the wand chooses the wizard, not the other way around.

It seems to me (and I could be wrong), but wand size is based on height. Hagrid's is 16". After him, Ron's got the longest (14"), then LV (13 1/4") and Cedric (12 1/4").


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post Apr 12 2005, 09:30 PM
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Is there a place to find this sort Celtic chart? Book, website, whatever doesn't really matter. Just curious.

I seen the information on JKR's website, and was hoping to go a little further. smile.gif


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post Apr 12 2005, 09:34 PM
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Um....I think I got that from the HP Lexicon. That was 12 hours ago, so I don't remember. But I DO remember somewhere over at the Leaky Lounge that there was a link for a site that said where all the wands come from and the lore behind it. I think it's in Butterbeer Banter, but if you do a forum search you should be able to find it.


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post Apr 12 2005, 09:39 PM
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I did a forum search before starting this thread, and I didn't find anything of value to me. So I don't know what it is you're referring to? It may not even have turned up? If you find the link, that'd be really great!


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post Apr 12 2005, 09:46 PM
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I'll dig for it, but give me till tomorrow, okay? I just looked at the clock and I turn into a pumpkin very shortly! Not to mention I get up before 5 AM for work. Night!


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post Apr 15 2005, 08:57 AM
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What exactly makes a wand magical? Is it all about the core? Like some have unicorn hair or phoenix tail feathers or whatever. How important is this to making a wand more or less powerful?


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post Apr 15 2005, 09:22 AM
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I think that it could well be the focal point of the wand - and that is why it is encased and protected by the wood.

Think of the core as being a conductive material and magic like energy. There are only certain number of conductive materials, all others would work. The wood is like a wire - protects the inner conductive wires as well as give them direction.

As for the wand choosing the wizard, I think that this takes wands to a level above my previous analogy. Different combinations reflect, in some way, who or what a person is, what their potential is and where it lies. I don't buy the idea that magic is on different frequencies, depending on the person (a RedHen idea, I think) because, IMO, it doesn't make sense. Magic is magic, but it is used and appears differently in different people as would intelligence or talent. For instance, unless there is a medical reason or tone deafness (or something that I have not mentioned, I wish not to offend), most people can be taught to sing to some level. Some are excellent at it, others are average - but they can sing. Take wizards - DD would be the equivalent of a professional opera singer, and Neville would be like me.

Anyway, a wand has several variables: wood length, wood type, core type and flexibility.

Here's some maths, but I'll highlight the relevant points:
  • There are three types of core used at Ollivanders.
  • There are at least seven types of wood used.
  • There are, from what we have been given, at least twenty-eight possible lengths used.
  • And there are at least five forms of flexibility.
This gives a total number of 2940 wands.

However, there could be as many as:
  • Twenty types of wood.
  • Thirty possible lengths.
  • Ten forms of flexibility.
This gives a total number of 18,000 wands.

This seems far more plausible, because I have estimated the wizarding population of Britain to be about 19,000 to 25,000.

So there could easily be a different wand for each person.

Where am I going with this? Every person has their own wand, and so it is plausible that only one wand will suit a person.

However, if say, three out of the four variables are the same or nearly the same, then the wand will work very well, just not to the optimum, but if only one or two of the four variables are used, the performance would be poorer.

[And if the maths is wrong, it isn’t my fault. Blame my physicist friend.  :wink: ]


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post Apr 15 2005, 09:45 AM
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Can I just add something to your math!

You are making that math up, working in on the prinsable that only one the cores come from the same place! if you looks at it wider you will see that there would be a bigger number of different typed wands, as no aniamal is the same, just like no human is the same, meaning you could have 50 wands with the same core same wood and same leangh however all be totally different! because the cores of them 50 did not come from the same place! same type of aniamal but different all the same
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