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Chamber of Secrets as a place at Hogwarts and its role in the second book., There's more to it than a basilisk!!
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post Jan 23 2007, 04:24 PM
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Opening the Chamber was the climax of the second book and this place was even in the title. Why?

To remind myself and all the rest about the Chamber, I paste here the quote from the Lexicon:

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The Chamber of Secrets is a legendary secret room constructed by Salazar Slytherin to house a monster which would finish his "noble work." This noble work would be accomplished when his true heir would open the Chamber and release the monster which lived within to rid the school of non-pureblood students.

According to the legend, Slytherin and Gryffindor argued over whether to allow Muggle-born students into Hogwarts. When Gryffindor won, Slytherin left the school, but not before building the Chamber. Over the centuries, many great witches and wizards have searched for the Chamber but none found it. Eventually, the whole thing was assumed to be purely fiction.

It was not, however. The reason no one could find the Chamber is that it required someone to speak in Parseltongue to open its entrance, and this was a power which only a very few have ever had. Slytherin spoke Parseltongue and a thousand years later, his heir, Tom Riddle, also had that ability. Riddle spent several years discovering how to open the Chamber and when he did, he unleashed the monster on the school. The monster was a basilisk, which Tom could control since it is a great serpent and spoke Parseltongue as well. There were a number of attacks on Muggle-born students, ending in the death of Myrtle in a second-floor bathroom.

Tom's plan backfired on him, however. When the girl died, the headmaster, Armando Dippet, decided to close the school. Riddle came from a Muggle orphanage and he would have had to live there if Hogwarts closed. So Riddle framed Hagrid for the crime of opening the Chamber. Hagrid was expelled and the school remained open.



Now, the description of this place:
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He was standing at the end of a very long, dimly lit chamber. Towering stone pillars entwined with more carved serpents rose to support a ceiling lost in darkness., casting long, black shadows throught he odd, greenish gloom that filled the place.

As he drew level with the last pair of pillars, a statue high as the Chamber itself loomed into view, standing against the back wall...it was ancient and monkeyish, with a long thin beard that fell almost to the bottom of the wizard's sweeping stone robes, where two enormous gray feet stood on the smooth Chamber floor.


Here you can see a map of it and the entrance.

Now, some suggestions to ponder on...
    * was the Chamber of Secrets only a place to store the basilisk?
    * if not, was it the place of storing some forbidden knowledge/artefacts/secrets?
    * could it have any links with the Horcruxes, which have been stricktly forbidden topic at Hogwarts?
    * why Salazar Slytherin took so much pain to build a hidden chamber?
    * why no other headmaster/mistress of Hogwarts bothered to find it?
    * why didn't Dumbledore explore it/ close it forever/ destroy it after Harry's adventure?


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post Feb 1 2007, 06:34 PM
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* could it have any links with the Horcruxes, which have been stricktly forbidden topic at Hogwarts?
* why Salazar Slytherin took so much pain to build a hidden chamber?




I dont think that,at first, the chamber had anything to do with horcruxes..but maybe once TR got a hold of it..there could be maybe experiments or things of research (maybe even an actual horcrux) that could ultimatley help the Order. but then there is the other possibility that at the time TR opened the chamber he still did not know about horcruxes.

I think Slytherin to the time to build the chamber because he wanted muggle borns out. to me it sounds like he was probably arrogant and wanted to have the last word..so he built a chamber with the monster hoping that when he and the others are all gone someone else would do what he wanted to with out anyone there to stop it. darkmark.gif


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post Feb 2 2007, 11:11 AM
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It's not that no one bothered to look for the chamber but that it could only be opened by Parseltongue, and the only people to speak it, as we've read, was Tom Riddle himself and Harry.
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After the killing of the basilisk, the Chamber might have been explored freely and, to open the hidden entrance, there was a Parseltongue available for Dumbledore - Harry. The headmaster has never suggested returning to the Chamber. On the other side, he didn't close it pernamently. A plan? A lack of curiosity? A negligence?


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post Feb 6 2007, 10:53 AM
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I've always wondered about this too! I mean, didn't JKR say something about Book 2 being vitally important later on in the series? And specifically the Chamber? And yet we haven't seen it again. I don't understand, too, why DD didn't (at least to OUR knowledge) go back in there. I can only assume it's part of his grand plan to have Harry figure it out and go in there (how lucky he's a parsletongue too!) There is no doubt in my mind that tons of Salazar's secrets are in there. He didn't just leave a Basilisk in there. We still don't know where LV acquired all the information he did about, say, horcruxes for example. And we know the founders are going to come back into play in seven. And she has yet to explore the whole rift between the houses and how that's going to be solved.


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QUOTE(You_wont_know_who @ Feb 4 2007, 04:52 AM) [snapback]1086838[/snapback]

After the killing of the basilisk, the Chamber might have been explored freely and, to open the hidden entrance, there was a Parseltongue available for Dumbledore - Harry. The headmaster has never suggested returning to the Chamber. On the other side, he didn't close it pernamently. A plan? A lack of curiosity? A negligence?


I understand that the Chamber was sealed by a rock fall where the ceiling in the passage collapsed. That was when Lockhart's memory charm backfired due to Ron's damaged wand.

Even a parseltongue might not be able to proceed further into the Chamber if the way has been blocked. So far, there has been at least one further mention of this rock fall - Fred and George mentioned later on in POA that one of the passages on the marauders map was sealed by a rock fall, possibly that very rock fall. So no wonder DD didn't investigate the Chamber further.



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QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Feb 6 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]1090920[/snapback]
I understand that the Chamber was sealed by a rock fall where the ceiling in the passage collapsed. That was when Lockhart's memory charm backfired due to Ron's damaged wand.

Even a parseltongue might not be able to proceed further into the Chamber if the way has been blocked. So far, there has been at least one further mention of this rock fall - Fred and George mentioned later on in POA that one of the passages on the marauders map was sealed by a rock fall, possibly that very rock fall. So no wonder DD didn't investigate the Chamber further.
Whereas we cannot know if the two rockfalls (the one on the secret passage that the Weasley twins mention in PoA and the one in the CoS) are related we know the passage mentioned isn't the same since the Weasley twins weren't ever in the CoS.

But, given that we know a sizeable hole was made in the rockslide for Ginny, Harry & Fawkes to get back through on the way out of the CoS to Myrtle's Restroom I don't think we can blame the rockslide? There could be plenty of other reasons we are unaware of but that one doesn't seem to hold water (no pun intended it being under the lake & all).

Personally I was kind of surprised the trio didn't want to do any more exploring themselves down there since the basilisk was no longer a threat. Certainly the boys have shown a real propensity to want to have a grand adventure involving risk ever since they ran into Fluffy and by the next day were ready for more.


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The access to the Chamber was certainly limited but not impossible, especially for a fully - grown wizard who could have perform a "Reducto" spell.

My theory is that Dumbledore didn't want to draw the attention to this place as it contains something important. Maybe, a mention about the Horcruxes, but most likely, the ultimate guide to the Dark Arts and to the reason why people have always been drawn to them.


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There has to be more to the Chamber of Secrets than the basilisk. People in the WW has been talking about the legend of the chamber for hundreds of years and I don't think it will all end just because the basilisk is dead. Harry destroyed a horcrux in there and in my opinion, the chamber is like Salazar Slytherin's temple, because he made it just like he wanted it. Voldemort sort of worshipped Slytherin in the chamber. It is horrible to think about the basilisk slithering around down there for hundreds of years without anyone knowing it was there. I still wonder why Dumbledore didn't notice anything, though. He's supposed to be the greatest wizard ever and I thought he could sense something like that. He can read people's minds, after all. The reason Dumbledore didn't destroy the chamber at the end of CoS is, in my opinion, that the chamber contains something important, maybe more horcruxes. Or it could be that he wasn't able to. Harry can destroy horcruxes easier than Dumbledore, so maybe Harry will have to deal with it. Interesting topic, I could go on for ever here!


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I don't think there's anything more to the Chamber of Secrets. The Basilisk was killed, and Dumbledore obviously saw that there was no more danger in the Chamber, which is probably why he simply left it alone. He might have explored the Chamber after the Basilisk was killed for all we know, and seen that there was nothing dangerous left in it. He might have left it as it is rather than destroy it cos it was what Slytherin left behind for his future students after all. Just a heritage thing.


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