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Transitions from one book to the next, COS to POA |
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 Feb 19 2007, 06:45 AM
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 Madame Pince's House Elf   Posts: 4,111 Joined: 5:46pm January 28, 2005 Location: Telephone box, Wagga Wagga    |
At the end of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Harry had completed a year of adventure and discovery. He had passed all the seven tasks to stop Quirrell getting the Philosopher's Stone, had made friends and enemies, had helped win Quidditch games and also he, Ron, Hermione and even Neville had earned accolades to add to Gryffindor's point tally. Harry could hope for a much better summer than he ever enjoyed.
But the events in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets proved his hopes were in vain. Harry did not know that Dobby had been stopping his mail, and when he was banned from a fancy dinner to impress some friends of the Dursleys, Dobby's intervention not only got Harry into trouble with the Dursleys but also threatened to have him expelled from Hogwarts. And when Harry and Ron finally arrived at Hogwarts they were to find that dark deeds were being plotted, concerning an ancient mystery, the Chamber of Secrets. By the end of this book, Harry, Ron, and Hermione have found out how the Chamber of Secrets had been opened, seen to it that Hagrid had been vindicated, interviewed a massive spider, and discovered the lies told by Tom Riddle and Gilderoy Lockhart, who lost his memory to Ron's malfunctioning wand. Dobby has been set free, and Lucius Malfoy sacked from the Board of Governors. Some random thoughts: How does the ending of the book, Chamber of Secrets, prepare for the events in the first chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban? What do we learn about Percy at the end of Chamber of Secrets which will also play a part in Prisoner of Azkaban? Is Harry right to say the Dursleys would be furious he survived the basilisk? And will Harry's forthcoming summer holidays really be better than the previous year's holiday? -------------------- |
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Feb 19 2007, 01:34 PM
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Waiting for Wednesdays   Posts: 8,743 Joined: 7:57am January 28, 2005 Location: Hiding from Hurricanes |
QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Feb 19 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1107258[/snapback] At the end of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Harry had completed a year of adventure and discovery. He had passed all the seven tasks to stop Quirrell getting the Philosopher's Stone, had made friends and enemies, had helped win Quidditch games and also he, Ron, Hermione and even Neville had earned accolades to add to Gryffindor's point tally. Harry could hope for a much better summer than he ever enjoyed. But the events in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets proved his hopes were in vain. Harry did not know that Dobby had been stopping his mail, and when he was banned from a fancy dinner to impress some friends of the Dursleys, Dobby's intervention not only got Harry into trouble with the Dursleys but also threatened to have him expelled from Hogwarts. And when Harry and Ron finally arrived at Hogwarts they were to find that dark deeds were being plotted, concerning an ancient mystery, the Chamber of Secrets. By the end of this book, Harry, Ron, and Hermione have found out how the Chamber of Secrets had been opened, seen to it that Hagrid had been vindicated, interviewed a massive spider, and discovered the lies told by Tom Riddle and Gilderoy Lockhart, who lost his memory to Ron's malfunctioning wand. Dobby has been set free, and Lucius Malfoy sacked from the Board of Governors. Some random thoughts: How does the ending of the book, Chamber of Secrets, prepare for the events in the first chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban? What do we learn about Percy at the end of Chamber of Secrets which will also play a part in Prisoner of Azkaban? Is Harry right to say the Dursleys would be furious he survived the basilisk? And will Harry's forthcoming summer holidays really be better than the previous year's holiday? I really love the way Jo handles transitions. I use her transitions between the books as a way to teach transitions in my class. She's seemlessly weaved the books together so that each is complete on its own, but is also part of a larger whole. I do like the small reminders, comments, and allusions to the previous novels. This helps tie the series together. As for will the Dursleys be upset he survived the basilisk? I often wonder if their complaining is genuine. The magic that protects Harry protects Harry, but there has been nothing said about what it does for the Dursley's. If they really wanted him gone, they didn't have to take him in the first place. -------------------- avatar by The Rockin Leaky Staff
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Feb 19 2007, 05:52 PM
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Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner   Posts: 241 Joined: 3:39pm September 17, 2006 Location: On the varsity tennis team |
J.K.Rowling has a very very intersting and creative mind. The adventures at the end of the books help prepare Harry for the next.
At the end of the 2nd book Harry has finally solved the mystery of the Chamber of Secrets and helping Hogwarts not be closed down, helping pertified people become alive. And helping Hagrid out of Azksban. Harry is smart enough not to tell the Durlsey's about his adventures at Hogwarts. They would be upset to hear that he wasn't killed. Harry's first real adventure in the POA is when he ran away after Aunt Marge turned into a balloon. He was outside alone at night and just saw of what he thought was the grim (Siruis). He has learned to be quicker and wiser. Harry has a complex life. --------------------  |
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Feb 19 2007, 06:25 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer  Posts: 138 Joined: 9:55pm July 8, 2005 Location: Tennessee |
QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Feb 19 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1107258[/snapback] How does the ending of the book, Chamber of Secrets, prepare for the events in the first chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban? What do we learn about Percy at the end of Chamber of Secrets which will also play a part in Prisoner of Azkaban? Is Harry right to say the Dursleys would be furious he survived the basilisk? And will Harry's forthcoming summer holidays really be better than the previous year's holiday?
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Feb 20 2007, 12:22 AM
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WeasleyCast's Hostess With The Mostest Posts: 6,606 Joined: 2:44am February 20, 2006 Location: At The Burrow taking cooking lessons from Molly |
One thing that springs to my mind is that Hagrid's name is finally clear, and then we see him eligible to do things now like teach CoMC
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Feb 20 2007, 12:52 AM
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Dodgy Cauldrons Dealer  Posts: 1,683 Joined: 7:58pm April 7, 2006 Location: Maine |
QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Feb 19 2007, 06:45 AM) [snapback]1107258[/snapback] How does the ending of the book, Chamber of Secrets, prepare for the events in the first chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban? Well, clearly, Hagrid's imprisonment in Azkaban sets us up for the prison break at the beginning of PoA. We're told what Azkaban is, and are given a vivid impression of just how horrible it is to be imprisoned there.QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Feb 19 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]1107568[/snapback] As for will the Dursleys be upset he survived the basilisk? I often wonder if their complaining is genuine. The magic that protects Harry protects Harry, but there has been nothing said about what it does for the Dursley's. If they really wanted him gone, they didn't have to take him in the first place. I've discusssed this at length elsewhere, but I believe that the protection Harry has at #4PD extends to the entire Dursley household. The story of Lily's sacrifice to save Harry very closely paralleles the Passover story, and in that case, the blood of the sacrificial lamb was spread on the doorposts and lintel of the house and everyone within that house was then protected from the Death Angel. Oh, I also think that Petunia knows that she, Vernon, and Dudley are being protected. IMO it explains a lot of her behavior across several books.Debbie -------------------- 'It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.' ~ APWB Dumbledore
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Feb 20 2007, 04:34 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer  Posts: 114 Joined: 12:08am November 23, 2006 Location: Canada |
QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Feb 19 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]1107258[/snapback] How does the ending of the book, Chamber of Secrets, prepare for the events in the first chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban?
QUOTE Is Harry right to say the Dursleys would be furious he survived the basilisk? I don't think so. Harry doesn't know the whole story (and neither do we for that matter). It's likely that the Dursleys get some benefit from the magic protecting Harry, so they might be disappointed but not angry. This post has been edited by Lomelindi: Feb 20 2007, 04:35 PM -------------------- .•*¨¯¨*•.¸Lomelindi.•*¨¯¨*•.¸
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Feb 20 2007, 10:19 PM
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Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007 |
I don't think they do, but they care enough about Harry not to want him to die even though he is wierd (to them) and they fear everything to do with him.
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Feb 22 2007, 10:14 AM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 573 Joined: 9:04am January 29, 2007 |
1. The past haunts the present but can be fought and put to right...'even if it means breaking a hundred school rules'...in the last chapter , Ms. Rowlings sums the events Aragog and Hagrid and Moaning Myrtle and Lucius and Tom and the lynchpin Ginny.
2. You cannot judge a book by it's cover...Riddle was Brilliant and handsome but his character is dangerous and it becomes written on his face by the choices he makes using magical transformation. The memory charms do the same; once the are inflicted, the victim becomes recognizable. 3. Sorting of one's character into a single slot is not means other characters are not present...Harry find this by questioning his placement into by the sorting hat. He will find slytherin, ravenclaw and hufflepuff characteristics as do Ron and Hermione. 4. The expanding interface between the magical and muggle worlds...the introduction of muggle mail and phone calls and the owl post leads to the Weasley's et al exposure of themselves to the Dursleys. This has repercussions throughout the next books including the dementors and the emerging war. 'The muggles, they don't see noffin do they...' The Weasley's and the Grangers travel the world. 5. Dobby's reward, that he is no longer a throw away and he, as other elves, have formidible magical powers...leading to the theme of magical creatures as being valuable and deserving self-assertion, understanding and liberation. [Dobby never answers Harry's request that Dobby promise to never try and save his life again.] 6. The telltale crack of apparation. 7. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Fred, George and Ginny played at exploding snaps, fireworks and practising disarming on each other by magic. 8. The political aims of the Death Eaters...p.386 DD commenting on Lucius desire to destroy Weasley's cridibility and his Muggle Protection Act. 9. Harry's gathering self-confidence, confronting Lucius and justly liberating Dobby, followed by his defiance of the Dursleys , including symbolically 'blowing up' nasty Aunt Marge. |
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Feb 24 2007, 05:16 PM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup  Posts: 41 Joined: 2:38pm November 12, 2006 Location: Eating pumpkins in Hagrid's pumpkin patch |
I don't think that Harry was wrong about the Dursleys. I think that perhaps there is some sort of promise or agreement between Aunt Petunia and the Order that makes sure that it is in her own interests and those of her family's to keep him in her house. I don't think the Dursleys have a 'secret caring' side for Harry or anything like that because it's just not the Dursleys; it would kill their characters to be perfectly honest... maybe we will see some sympathy or help from Aunt Petunia at some point in DH but that's as far as it will go. Harry and the Dursleys are never going to love eachother like family should.
This post has been edited by weasley is my king: Feb 24 2007, 05:17 PM -------------------- Weasley is our k i n g |
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