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 Feb 9 2008, 09:30 PM
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Not to take anything away from Molly, but I think that the only reason she was able to defeat Bellatrix was because of the immediate threat to her only daughter. We hear from Arthur in DH that in times of great need, wizards can generate magic that they would normally be incapable of. Bella and Sirius are very closely matched skill-wise, in normal situations, so that duel could have gone either way. Also, under normal circumstances, both Bella and Sirius would be able to take down Molly, but threaten one of her children, and she could probably muster the power to take down LV!
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Feb 9 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(harrypottergeek2 @ Feb 9 2008, 09:30 PM)  Also, under normal circumstances, both Bella and Sirius would be able to take down Molly, but threaten one of her children, and she could probably muster the power to take down LV!
Under normal circumstances, O fellow geek  , I still don't know that either Bella or Sirius would be able to take down Molly! The obstacle to hazarding a guess at the outcome of any such duel is that we simply don't know enough about Molly's skills at the magic one uses in conflict. We really don't have that much specific information on either Bella's or Sirius' duelling strategies or abilities either, but we do know from their histories in the first Voldemortian conflict that they are both powerful and skilled at magical conflict.
I do agree with you than if a witch or wizard of any level, even as exceptional as LV, threatened one of her children, that aggressor should fear her (and if Arthur was present, the aggressor should be equally fearful of him).
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Feb 10 2008, 04:46 AM
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Well back in the DOM, weren't the DE's the only ones who were actually trying to kill?
I'm sure Sirius could have AK'd Bella had he wanted to. And if Molly hadn't done it DH, she most likely would not have won.
So I think neither of the situations says anything about how strong Molly and Sirius really are compared to each other.
This post has been edited by pranko: Feb 10 2008, 04:48 AM
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Feb 12 2008, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE(Milligan @ Feb 9 2008, 06:49 PM) We know Bellatrix beat Sirius and Molly beat Bellatrix, can this automatically lead us to believe that Molly would have beaten Sirius in a duel
Sirius took on Bellatrix to provide cover for the others. He wasn't trying to kill her, and Molly took on Bellatrix with the intentions of killing her. I don't think killing Bellatrix crossed his mind--he just wanted to keep her busy and away from Harry and Neville. I think had Sirius lived, Lupin and Dumbledore would have given him the same speech Lupin gives Harry about shooting to kill or at least disable.
I wonder if, before they became true enemies, Bellatrtix and Sirius sparred at family gatherings. I got the distinct impression that this was a familiar contest between the cousins. I'm not certain that Bellatrix was trying to kill Sirius either--she doesn't use an AK--in the book. The light is red which suggest a stunner or Crucio to the chest--which can probably kill. Still, she felt she very well matched: she defended herself to Voldemort by saying she was battling the Animagus Black, as if that mattered.
I have trouble imagining Molly and Sirius fighting, but it would depend on which version of Sirius Molly encountered: Sirius before or after Azkaban, and it would depend on why they are fighting each other. If they wre just dueling for fun, I think Molly would have the advantage because Sirius seemed to like the contest part of battle, and Molly would possbily fight like Hermione--just knock her opponent down or out.
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