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Poll : What was Dumbledore's wand?, Based on canon about DD and wandlore
Poll: What was Dumbledore's wand?
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Moose_Starr
post Feb 21 2008, 06:35 PM
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An interesting question was recently asked in A History of Magic :

QUOTE(lirene @ Feb 18 2008, 04:04 AM) *
I have the following question; does anyone know what type of wand Dumbledore used before he defeated Grindewald and won the Elder Wand? In my mind, I always imagined the core contained a phoenix feather, but not necessarily from Fawkes.


And we realized, we do not have the answer, for the simple reason that JKR has never been asked the question. We do have some information about Dumbledore's wand hand, his great abilities with a wand, and the fact that he can do wandless magic.

But, before the Elder Wand became his, what wand did he have? Would it have been like Harry's, made of holly with a phoenix feather core? Or would Ron's be a more likely candidate, ash with a unicorn tail hair core? Maybe the hornbeam and dragon heartstring wand that Krum owned would be more fitting.

We know that the wand chooses the wizard. We know that wands vary in length, seemingly according to the person's height, and also vary in flexibilty from springy or supple thru unyielding or brittle. There are many varieties of wood and cores, and this makes for a lot of possible combinations.

Based on what we know about the greatest wizard of all time; Albus Dumbledore, and our knowledge of wands and wandmakers and wandlore, what do you think DDs wand would have been?


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post Feb 21 2008, 07:11 PM
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I picked Hazel with a Unicorn Tail Hair core.

Hazel, because in looking up Dumbledore's birthday, there is no exact month and day, except "probably in July or August". Also when I looked up Hazel and its properties in the Celtic Tree months, many of the characteristics of Dumbledore seem to "fit".

Unicorn hair because of his "purity", but subject to change! lol wink.gif


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post Feb 22 2008, 03:36 AM
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I'm not sure of the wand himself, but pretty sure Jo told us that the core was a Thestral hair ... ponder.gif


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post Feb 22 2008, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(JaneMarple9 @ Feb 22 2008, 04:36 AM) *
I'm not sure of the wand himself, but pretty sure Jo told us that the core was a Thestral hair ... ponder.gif
I'm not sure but you might be thinking about the Elder Wand that does have a Thestral hair core.

I voted for Holly and Phoenix Feather. Everything else about Dumbledore that can be is a Phoenix, Fawkes and his patronus. As for Holly, I think I read somewhere that Holly signified goodness and that certainly fits. I'm not sure that it was a coincidence that Harry was also chosen by a holly and Phoenix feather wand.


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post Feb 22 2008, 06:48 PM
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I've always thought that Dumbledore's wand was of oak. Checking "Icons of England" it says:- The oak has always been seen as the national tree of England. Its great height, age and strength made it the king of the English forest, and a symbol of endurance. This seems to describe Dumbledore also, (well, apart from being king of the forest).

The core of the wand, - phoenix feather, no reason for this, just a feeling.


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Pheonix tail feather because of his strong affinity with the Phoenix as a symbol.

I chose Oak for the same reasons as maggieann, but if we had a date of birth for DD, my answer would have changed accordingly.


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According to this Wikipedia article (and some parts of the DH book), Dumbledore's wand was the Elder wand, created by Antioch Peverell, is composed of elder wood and with a core of Thesthral tail hair.

Of course, his original wand (before earning the Deathstick) may have been of oak as the others have said, with a core of phoenix feather. It does seem fitting for him to be chosen by the oak (which is just like him) and the phoenix feather (which he feels so close to him, I think).


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QUOTE(Dragonflydare @ Feb 24 2008, 08:30 AM) *
According to this Wikipedia article (and some parts of the DH book), Dumbledore's wand was the Elder wand, created by Antioch Peverell, is composed of elder wood and with a core of Thesthral tail hair.
Totally correct but, we are trying to figure out what wand Dumbledore had before the Elder Wand came into his possession. The Elder wand was his indeed, and has a Thestral hair core. But before then, we dont know what wand he had and JKR said it would be a major clue if we did know so, it has to be something significant I guess.

Different woods have different qualities, lend themselfs better to certain branches of magic, or represent states of being. James's wand was mahogany which is excellent for transfiguration, and Lily's wand was willow which was good for Charm work. LVs wand was yew which represents death, and rebirth. Birch represents beginnings. Hagrid's wand in his pink umbrella is apparently oak, which represents strength and I think DDs wand might have been oak, not necessarily to represent physical strength but, the power and many skills that DD had. Also I think oak represents longevity and is refered to as *the mighty oak*

And, DD has such an affinity with phoenixes that I think the wand would have instinctively known that, and chosen him on that basis. I did think maybe Unicorn tail hair but, although they represent purity, Hagrid made some remark about pulling out hairs. Maybe for wands the unicorn hairs are collected when they fall out or get caught up on branches or underbrush or something. But, maybe there's also an implication that some are acquired less naturally, and DD being a champion of magical creatures wouldnt want to harm any. And seeing as how it is the wand that chooses the wizard I think it would more likely be the phoenix feather because of DDs closeness to phoenixes.


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I think it would be mahogany and phownix tail feather. Phoenix tail feather obviously because DD gets on well with Fawkes and his personality just seems to fit with the phoenix for some reason.

Also I chose mahogany because we know that it is quite sturdy and good for transfiguration and DD was a transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts. This logic only makes sense if transfiguration is his best subject though - perhaps he could have been like Snape, teaching one subject until he got the chance to teach what he was longing to - only DD's chance never came. Anyway this combination just seemed to make sense to me.


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i was stuck between elm and willow but went with willow in the end purely based on the fact its old and like the tree that seems wise ( i think there was a wise willow in pocahontus but could be totally wrong......) and lets face it, he was obseesed with phoenix's (though i did have a theory about a demiguise hair but i never held enough faith in it to vote for it....)


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