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Irony in the seven books of the series. |
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 Apr 8 2008, 11:44 AM
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If we include dramatic irony, I would have to say that it plays quite the role. In GoF, the reader is able to remember more details of the vision Harry has over the summer than Harry is. In OotP, when Harry is facing the prospect of expulsion, it was not as convincing for the reader since we know that there are still two books and the vast majority of the current one left in the story. In HBP, we get an entire scene with Snape that Harry never witnesses - same with DH.
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Apr 8 2008, 01:33 PM
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It is ironic that the person who got Harry thinking about a career as an Auror was himself a Death Eater.
It is ironic that the one part of Dumbledore's death plan that did not work as it was supposed to - the part about having the power of the Elder Wand die - turned out to have worked even better.
It is ironic that Aberforth who apparently at least liked Harry, advises him to run for his life - which would have made things overall worse for everyone, while Snape who hates him tells him he must die, which is what makes things better for everyone (who survives) and for Harry as well. (Oh, and Aberforth is the Gryffindor and Snape the supposedly self-preserving Slytherin)
It is ironic that Harry refuses to trust Snape, either as teacher or as Order member, but trusts the Half-blood Prince, who turns out to be Snape, and the silver doe, which comes from Snape. (And in both cases the trust was beneficial to Harry, overall.)
It is ironic that Lupin tells Harry to use spells more aggressive than Expelliarmus, but it is the latter spell that Harry uses successfully in his final confrontation with Voldemort.
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Apr 8 2008, 05:08 PM
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There certainly are ironies in the HP series. It's ironic that the most powerful wand in the wizarding world changed its alliegiance to Harry not by magical means; but by Harry physically and forcefully taking it from Draco.
One of the best DADA teachers was an active Deatheater; and Moody imposter. Snape spent the greater part of his life hating James and loving Lily. I'll try to come up with more, but this is the best I can do for now  .
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Apr 9 2008, 10:49 AM
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I wouldn't exactly call this ironic, but it comes close.
The three most powerful people in the series - Dumbledore, Voldemort and Harry, owned one of the Hallows each for a long time with only Dumbledore knowing what it really was. Dumbledore had the Elder Wand, Voldemort had the Resurrection Stone set in the Peverell's ring, and Harry had the Invisibility Cloak. 
It is also ironic that Snape, who saw only James in Harry all his life, asked Harry to look at him while dying so that he could see Lily's eyes in Harry's face for the last time. 
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Apr 10 2008, 01:18 AM
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POA is chock full of lines that take ironic meaning once one knows how things turned out.
When the Muggle news reports of Sirius' escape, Vernon says "Lunatic could be coming up the street right now!" - and indeed Padfoot was on his way to Little Whinging.
At the pet shop the proprietor asks Ron what powers Scabbers has. Well, he is a wizard who killed 12 people in one curse and is an unregistered Animagus, for starters.
Arthur tells Ron that Black won't be caught by a 13 year old wizard - no, he will be freed by one.
Molly and Arthur discuss the dementors - "If they save Harry - " and what if they try to kill him?
But the top is Snape, as replacement DADA teacher "Well, well, well, I never thought I'd meet a third year class who wouldn't even recognize a werewolf when they saw one." - knowing that indeed they have had quite a few DADA lessons with a werewolf already.
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