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Snape and a love potion, Why didn't Snape use his gift at potions?
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post Apr 17 2008, 07:59 PM
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Here is something I've been meaning to ask: Did you ever wonder why Snape, being so gifted with potions, never used a love potion on Lily? My guess is that he always had a noble heart even though he chose to join the wrong side/friends at first. So, what do you think? Did Snape ever consider giving Lily a potion? How about using a potion on his rival, James Potter?
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post Apr 17 2008, 08:13 PM
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I think that, as flawed as he was, Snape could tell the difference between true love and potion induced infatuation. I guess that he liked Lily the way she was, he respected her and he had no intentions to make her become a sock puppet like the one Ron becomes in HBP after eating the chocolate cauldrons.

On the other hand, James is flour from another sack. However, I suppose that it would have been too obvious for Snape to use a potion, supposing that he used them on James left handedly tongue.gif


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post Apr 17 2008, 08:54 PM
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i think he would not have felt satisfied unless his affection was genuinely returned. Come to think of it, neither would I


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post Apr 17 2008, 09:04 PM
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I've alays thought it was because Snape really love Lily, and wanted her to love him back for him, not a potion.It was like Voldies parents. Because I think if you really love someone, you would want them to be happy, and that why I also think Snape didn't harm James, because it was what made Lily happy, and even if James was out of the picture, Snape knew that he didn't really have much of a chance with her anyway.


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post Apr 17 2008, 09:14 PM
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i think snape's smart enough to realize that even if lily did take the potion, she doesn't love him.deep down in his heart, he would know that it's not true love, the real lily wouldn't do that.if he loved lily so much, then he would let her chose by herself and not forcing her to like him.
poor severus...
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post Apr 17 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(gibbly gubbly goo @ Apr 17 2008, 10:14 PM) *
i think snape's smart enough to realize that even if lily did take the potion, she doesn't love him.deep down in his heart, he would know that it's not true love, the real lily wouldn't do that.if he loved lily so much, then he would let her chose by herself and not forcing her to like him.
poor severus...
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Poor Severus ? IMO I thjink Snape brought it on himself. For one he called Lily a mud-blood for no reason, and don't ferget that he did turn to the dark side, even if he did come back. Maybe Lily would have thought diffrent of him if he had been nicer to her (and maybe washed his hair) So I dont think that we should pitty him, it was his own fault.


P.S I really son't mean to sound like I'm attacking people, I just really dont like Snape, or at least the old Snape.


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post Apr 17 2008, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(dumblond-peppa @ Apr 18 2008, 12:31 AM) *
P.S I really son't mean to sound like I'm attacking people, I just really dont like Snape, or at least the old Snape.


Quite understandable.


One thing that I really find interesting is this whole love potion thing. I mean, are there love potions that make the "victim" (for a lack of a better word) only more slightly aware of the brewer, or they all produce some sort of infatuation? I think I could see Snape using one of the first kind (if they had existed), or maybe he just had a deeper undertsanding and respect for emotions.


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post Apr 18 2008, 08:35 AM
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I believe that Snape would never used a love potion on Lily because he simply loved her too much. I think he could never bring himself to give her a love potion and then have their relationship be fake. He wants Lily to be happy and have a great life so he would want what's best for her. Even though he didn't like James, he knew that James made Lily happy, and that's all he cared about. I think that since Snape loved Lily so much for all his life, he knew it would have been wrong to use a love potion.


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QUOTE(dumblond-peppa @ Apr 17 2008, 09:31 PM) *
For one he called Lily a mud-blood for no reason, and don't ferget that he did turn to the dark side, even if he did come back.


I think Snape just took the easy way out. Even though he and Lily were childhood friends and he loved her, it was eaiser to fall in with his Slytherin buddies who hated James and the other mauraders as much as he did. I imagine his mud-blood comment was something he deeply regretted as soon as he walked away. He was probably taking out his anger for James on Lily because she was there. Snape definitely had his moments where he was a despicable character, but his love for Lily kept him from falling completely into evil.

As for the love potion, Snape was complicated... but not foolish. I don't think he would stoop that low just for her affections when he knew they wouldn't be real. He may have had a poor upbringing, but he still had pride. I don't think he could've lived with himself.


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post Apr 18 2008, 03:55 PM
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If a woman uses a love potion, it's considered, by the wizarding community at least, a passive but acceptable ploy.

But I think the opinion of a male using a love potion would be the same as in our own society--a violation, perhaps even criminal sexual seduction. Yes, it indicates a lamatable double standard, but there you are.

But I think the reason Snape doesn't resort to a potion is pride--a thought which I realize also reflects a double standard, because it indicates that women, for whom a love potion is consider a fair lure to romance, have no pride.

However, from Snape's reaction he appears to believe that James won Lily by playing the hero, and saving his life. And Jo says Snape joined the Death Eater in the hopes of impressing Lily.

It seems he felt the only way to win Lily was to become important and powerful by joining with a group of individuals lead by a socialpath who thought the way to the top was murder and torture.

In this case, the love potion might have been a better choice.


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