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B Lestrange, did she regret killing Sirius?
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:12 AM
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I just watched OOtP yesterday and was struck by the scene where Sirius is killed. It could be the directing or the way the movie was cut, but the AK is so different then in GoF with Cedric. Cedric was engulfed in green and died instantly. Sirius simply had a quick green falsh and seemed to die slowly although he was alive when he faded into the portal. When they showed BL's reaction, she seemed emotional. Am I wrong? I know these spells require true belief to work at there full potential, so did she have doubt when she cast it?


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post Jun 27 2008, 09:36 AM
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I doubt she regreted it, she was a psycopath, so I don't think she would feel sorry for what she did to anyone, yet alone Sirius, who, in her eyes, was a bloodtrailor (even worse he was related to her, thus disgracing the family name...)

I think her reaction was more like shock; OMG I actually managed to kill him!


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post Jun 27 2008, 09:53 AM
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That's a possiblity, but what about the spell? It's so different then in GoF? Is this only due to a different director or was it intentional? He didn't instantly die like Cedric?


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post Jun 27 2008, 10:07 AM
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I definitely don't think that Bellatrix regretted killing Sirius. Sirius was family, which made his beliefs even worse in her eyes because he was a disgrace to her line.

I imagine the difference was the way the script was written. As readers/watchers we had more emotionally invested in Sirius so he was "more important" than Cedric (not saying it wasn't just as traumatizing...). Plus he was standing by the veil and they had to put that into play. I'm sure it was a way to make his death almost seem like slow motion so the seriousness of the moment played well on the screen.

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post Jun 27 2008, 10:34 AM
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i agree with janspach on everything.. lol so i dont really have anything to say its already been said biggrin.gif
so about the way it looks in the film i actually think that it shud look the way it did in GOF. the AK kills instantly, no time to slowly drift away like sirius did in OOTP. when he hit the veil he was already dead, imo. the spell needs a certain amount of "conviction", yes, but if the person managed to cast it then its strengh would be the same, killing the moment it hit. wink.gif


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post Jun 27 2008, 10:54 AM
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I don't think you can read too much into what happens in the films, because the director keeps changing, and there is a certain amount of doing things for visual effect (for example apparation seems completely different in the last couple of films from the book) rather than making them consistent with the books, which does introduce inconsistencies with the books and even the films themselves. In the book Bella doesn't necessarily use a killing curse, in fact it is implied that it wasn't the killing curse, just something that was enough to make Sirius topple backwards, so it could well have been going though the veil that killed him.

I don't think Bella regretted killing Sirius for one minute, because she would see Sirius as a traitor to his family (and her family), and also think that anyone who opposed her beloved Voldemort would deserve to die.


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post Jun 27 2008, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(janspach @ Jun 27 2008, 05:07 PM) *
I imagine the difference was the way the script was written. As readers/watchers we had more emotionally invested in Sirius so he was "more important" than Cedric (not saying it wasn't just as traumatizing...). Plus he was standing by the veil and they had to put that into play. I'm sure it was a way to make his death almost seem like slow motion so the seriousness of the moment played well on the screen.

Yes that's what I would think too, and evenif there wasn't a veil involved, I'd think they'd make the scene more dramatic than Cedrids death, because Sirius' was more emotional than Ced.

I also agree with roonwit we shouldn't look to the film too much for character assesments...


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post Jun 27 2008, 11:08 AM
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She actually sounded pretty happy that she killed Sirius, wasn't she even singing how she killed him? Pretty sadistic if you ask me, no regret at all. Which is a contrast to her comment in the next book how Narcissa would attack her "Really Cissy, your own sister?" Someone should ask her "Really your own cousin AND Niece??"


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post Jun 27 2008, 12:21 PM
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I agree in my heart with all of you, but JK has put a lot of emphasis on how the actors portray their characters in the movies. She has said, for example, that Alan plays Snape exactly like she sees him in her mind. The reason that I site him is that he seems much less evil in the movie as he reads in the books.
I know she's insane, but the whole scene as viewed together seemed to show her have a split second of doubt or regret in her mind and that led to a less quick AK. Don't get me wrong, she got over it quickly, but for that brief moment in time? As if the event snapped her to sanity for 1 second.


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post Jun 27 2008, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Jun 27 2008, 07:21 PM) *
I agree in my heart with all of you, but JK has put a lot of emphasis on how the actors portray their characters in the movies. She has said, for example, that Alan plays Snape exactly like she sees him in her mind. The reason that I site him is that he seems much less evil in the movie as he reads in the books.
I know she's insane, but the whole scene as viewed together seemed to show her have a split second of doubt or regret in her mind and that led to a less quick AK. Don't get me wrong, she got over it quickly, but for that brief moment in time? As if the event snapped her to sanity for 1 second.


I don't know, I still doubt it, she's insane, maybe if it was someone else, someone she cared about, like if it was Narcissa she killed, she might have a seconds regret, but for a blood trailor? someone who was a disgrace to her family? nah don't think so...


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