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The Malfoys: Genuinely Evil or Simply Afraid?
hufflemuffinx
post Jul 13 2008, 03:26 PM
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what is your opinion of the malfoys? do you think they are genuinely evil or just afraid? not just the family, but each as an individual....looking for opinions


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post Jul 15 2008, 01:47 PM
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I would be split both ways on this one because they are for a fact evil but i think their evil because they know the dark lord can give them power! darkmark.gif draco.gif lucius.gif


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post Jul 15 2008, 02:05 PM
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Nobody thinks their evil, Hitler didn't. The Malfoys were extremely arrogant, intolerant and bigoted.
They were also self centered and selfish.
Lucius didn't care in COS if Arthur Weasley's daughter Ginny was killed but later he was concerned for the safety of his own son.
They were afraid when they were on the receiving end of the Dark Lord's curses.
One can only hope that the almost total destruction of their family and the clemency they have been granted by the Ministry will bring about a change of heart.
I would like to see them show some contrition and to use their wealth to help the families that have been harmed by Voldemort's reign of terror.
They have a lot of amends to make.


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keola sombra
post Jul 15 2008, 02:52 PM
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I think it's dificult to judge them as a family, for they are three different people, despite the fact that they might seem unanimous

Lucius: Lucius, I believe, is downright evil, he joined the Death Eaters by free will, and was a active DE, killing, torturing, without showing any signs of remorse, he was quick to return when the Dark Lord came back. In DH we see a battered Lucius, abused of Voldemort, thought he gains some sympathy there, for we see his love for Draco and Narcissa, and might not be on the Dark Lords side anymore, he still doesn't feel regret for what he's done, just for the situation they're in.

Narcissa: With beeing brought up in the Black household, it's understandable she shares the pure-blood views, though she never claim alligance to L.V, I believe the reason for that beeing that she likes the good life, wealth, luxury and care more about maintaining that than the pure-blood ideology... She is quite snobby, rude and believes the pureblood ideology, but more than anything she loves her son, she's willing to do anything to protect him (she lied to Voldemort to get to Draco)

Draco: From the beginning we see the efect his father has had on Draco, he, like many other D.E children, has adopted the pure-blood views of their parents, and he quickly takes on a leading role in the mocking of muggleborns, and comes across as evil, cunning, snobby. He lookes up to his father, and craves his attention and approval, and would more than anything like to follow his footsteps and be like him... As we know he get's his wish and becomes a D.E at the age of 16, but he quickly learn it isn't as easy as he'd thought, and starts to have second thoughts about the whole thing, but both him and his family are in it too deep at this point, not to mention scared, and therefor stays with the D.E...

so my verdict:

Lucius: Genuinely evil, should be in Azkaban
Narcissa: Not evil, (though she's got rotten morals) just there because of her family
Draco: Not evil, first it was romantic idea of the D.E life, but when he truly understood what it was, he was just there because he was scared


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hufflemuffinx
post Jul 15 2008, 03:07 PM
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i agree with keola....i think that malfoy was evil and showed no remourse.
narcissa isnt evil. i think she was enchanted (not literally) with the protection that the dark lord had cast upon them. i think she is a true mother and wants nothing more then to see draco safe.
i think that draco is overall to good to ever be a death eater as we saw in HBP: he didnt really want to kill DD, he was just worried for his mothers safety. and when the snatchers brought the trio to malfoy manor, i dont think that draco wanted to confess that it was harry or ron, although he had no problem selling out the "mudblood" hermione. he only sold the rest of the trio because it didnt make sense that granger was in a tent with two strangers when harry was on the run.


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keola sombra
post Jul 15 2008, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(hufflemuffinx @ Jul 15 2008, 10:07 PM) *
i agree with keola....i think that malfoy was evil and showed no remourse.
narcissa isnt evil. i think she was enchanted (not literally) with the protection that the dark lord had cast upon them. i think she is a true mother and wants nothing more then to see draco safe.
i think that draco is overall to good to ever be a death eater as we saw in HBP: he didnt really want to kill DD, he was just worried for his mothers safety. and when the snatchers brought the trio to malfoy manor, i dont think that draco wanted to confess that it was harry or ron, although he had no problem selling out the "mudblood" hermione. he only sold the rest of the trio because it didnt make sense that granger was in a tent with two strangers when harry was on the run.

I actually don't think he would have sold her out, even if she was alone, though he didn't have very high thoughts of Hermione, I don't think he'd want to be responsible for her death, or any others death for that matter, just look at how he reacted to Charity Burbage's (right name? the muggle studies teacher in the beginning of DH) death, he had no connections with her (might have seen her at school, but that's probably it) yet he fainted when she was killed, now think if this was Hermione someone he knew, though they didn't have a friendly past, I don't think he'd want to see her dead... this I think goes to show that he's not a evil person(though he's not a very nice one eighter tongue.gif )


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post Jul 15 2008, 09:23 PM
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I think Lucius was evil.
Narcissa wasn't evil, but she was a coward. She went along with her husband and her sister because she loved them, but her only real concern was for her family.
Draco was a coward, too, but he was set on the path of evil by his father, whom he idolized. He was confused.


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post Jul 15 2008, 09:50 PM
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I actually don't think he would have sold her out, even if she was alone, though he didn't have very high thoughts of Hermione, I don't think he'd want to be responsible for her death, or any others death for that matter, just look at how he reacted to Charity Burbage's (right name? the muggle studies teacher in the beginning of DH) death, he had no connections with her (might have seen her at school, but that's probably it) yet he fainted when she was killed, now think if this was Hermione someone he knew, though they didn't have a friendly past, I don't think he'd want to see her dead... this I think goes to show that he's not a evil person(though he's not a very nice one eighter tongue.gif )
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actually that makes alot of sense...thanks for pointing that out. i completely forgot about her....i totally agree, he was a bully, not evil. he was definitely brainwashed (in a sense) by his father as was narcissa (although by bella too) as i pointed out before, he was almost hysterical when he was about to kill DD. he said that they would kill him if he didnt. if i had to classify him, i would classify him as one of the "better slytherins" (although not one of the "good slytherins'' like snape and phineas nigellus)


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post Jul 16 2008, 08:23 AM
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Lucius was clearly evil throughout the series. In the real world no action of his wife could have kept him out of prison, probably for life.
Narcissa wasn't pure evil, but she had a lot of evil tendencies. Her bigotry was evil and even her love for her family was tempered with an absolute disregard for the welfare of others.
I disagree with the majority on Draco. He was clearly bad to the bone and as evil as his father. He definitely had no trouble with Hermione being killed. In COS he even hopes that if a Mudblood is killed it would be her. Even tough he failed in his first two attempts to kill Dumbledore, he showed a complete disregard for anyone else he might have killed along the way. This is pure evil. Also, his actions in the Room of Requirement, trying to capture Harry and turn him over to Voldemort, and afterward show that he had not repented of his evil.


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post Jul 16 2008, 02:48 PM
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My opinion is that although the entire family had almost no moral decency they were not evil; just victims of generations of brainwashing. I disagree with the notion that Lucius was evil despite the awful things he did and said because after all Narcissa wasn't the only one who was concerned for Draco.
The Malfoys had all been brought up to believe that their wealth and status as purebloods put them firmly above almost everyone and this coupled with a strong desire for power made them carry out acts in aid of evil, but they were not evil themselves.
In my opinion.

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