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Snape Re-sorted, What if Snape had been in another house?
Pleione
post Aug 8 2008, 11:50 AM
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I was looking around our little forum today and it suddenly struck me that we don't have enough discussion about Snape. doh.gif And in the grand tradition of a solution looking for a problem, I thought it would be interesting to open a thread about what direction the infamous Snape would have taken if he had been sorted into any house other than Slytherin. What if after the scene on the train with James and Sirius, Snape had been sorted into their house? What if the Sorting Hat had ignored Snape's 11 year old's heart's desire and seen the man he would become--both the good and bad?

Different house, different friends, different expectations...different Snape? ponder.gif Would he still be dark, brooding Mr. Mysterio that fans love and hate? snape.gif

Pleione, who has been thinking about this because of the ongoing discussion in the Great Snape Debate thread. All credit (blame?!) goes to our wonderful regular posters in here. happy.gif


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post Aug 8 2008, 01:14 PM
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Of course the problem with such a question is that Snape would have to have been at least a slightly different person to be sorted into a different house.
But if allow that, then I could see him ending up in Gryffindor or Ravenclaw. He is certainly clever enough for Ravenclaw, and if he ended up there I could see his interests in the dark arts taking a more theoretical form, and as a result he might make an important contribution to the field of DADA. I think a lot of things would be different if he ended up in Gryffindor. I think he could have been accepted as a marauder, the only difficulty being his interest in dark arts, but I doubt that would be a problem if it was clear he only intended to use his knowledge in a positive manner. Things might have got difficult later if both Severus and James developed feelings for Lily, though Snape would have probably brought Lily closer to the Marauders if Snape was one of them, and her influence might have stopped James and Sirius hexing others quite so freely.


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post Aug 8 2008, 01:42 PM
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I think Snape would be in Gryffindor because he proved himself to be very brave, but he could have also been a Hufflepuff because he was very loyal to Dumbledore.


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post Aug 8 2008, 02:14 PM
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This is a good question. We hear that Snape tries to convince Lily to be in Slytherin, but I can't remember if the books say who was sorted first. If Lily was sorted before Snape the hat would have probably taken his feelings for wanting to be in the same house as her in consideration. And, it may have been a more difficult choice for Snape/the Sorting Hat to make.... And, I think perhaps, Snape may have gone into Gryffindor for all of the good qualities he has deep within. If Snape was sorted first it.. and none of this matters, and his allegiance to the Slytherin house notwithstanding, I could definitely see Snape in Ravenclaw. He was a potions master and very intelligent!


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post Aug 8 2008, 02:16 PM
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I'm so gald to see another Snape thread! There will never be enough from my unbiased point of view! wink.gif

Lets say that his overall personality is the same. The only other truly logical house would be Ravenclaw. I know that he's brave and all, but his moodiness and demeanor lends more to Ravens. Plus, he'd still be mysterious and secretive (because of introvertness). He wouldn't want Griff only because of his encounter on the train, but I think he really valued the intelligence part of himself.

Now the real question is how he interacted with James and crew after the train and after he's sorted into Ravenclaw. Snape may have known DA still, but being in R would open him up to a larger group of friends which may have (with Lily's help) prevented his fall into darkness. It seems more reasonable that James and Snape would still not like each other and the fact he knew DAs would be a sticking point for James. Now with Snape having more and better friends I would think that the fueding with be for the most part gone (probably ignore each other). If that happened, then I think Snape would have been at worst nuetral against LV. If the fueding stayed pretty much the same or maybe they fought over Lily at some point, then Snape may have still allied himself with the badies but maybe at a lesser extent.
Lily would have been with Snape if the move resulted in the battle between the Ms and Snape to stop. This would have most likely led to Snape not being involved with the Luc crew. If the fighting still took place, I think all roads lead to him leaning dark with Luc and would eventually lead Lily to leave him (just maybe at a later time then she did).
One thing to point out, if he wanted to be in Sly, but was sorted elsewhere, the train event would of happened the same and it's highly likely that events would have still played out the same way between James and Snape resulting in what occurred later on. If he never expressed a desire to be in Sly, it's more likely that the 2 would have ignored each other until the point that James found out he knew DAs and/or when he wanted Lily.


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post Aug 8 2008, 02:17 PM
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I think Ravenclaw. I don't consider Snape to be an inherently noble or admirable person. He isn't evil, but he isn't "good". He simply developed a love for Lily from a young age and could not shake it off. I don't think he fits in Gryffindor. Not being evil doesn't immediately equal Gryffindor.
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QUOTE(RubyRose @ Aug 8 2008, 08:14 PM) *
This is a good question. We hear that Snape tries to convince Lily to be in Slytherin, but I can't remember if the books say who was sorted first. If Lily was sorted before Snape the hat would have probably taken his feelings for wanting to be in the same house as her in consideration.
Sorting is alphabetical by surname (in the books at least) so Lily was sorted first (and very quickly).


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post Aug 9 2008, 01:03 AM
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I think that he would have been in Ravenclaw. I think that Ravenclaw is the house he would have wanted to be in if he couldn't be in Slytherin. He clearly values intelligence and would want to be viewed as intelligent. And he is extremely intelligent so I think he would fit into Ravenclaw just fine. Although he is undeniably brave enough to be in Gryffindor (and loyal and hard working enough to be in Hufflepuff) I don't see him as a Gryffindor. I think the Gryffindors are supposed to be not just brave, but also chivalrous or gallant which I'm not sure is how I would describe Snape. I mean the kind of bravery that Snape displays is a different kind of bravery than that of Harry for example. It is more subtle, less flashy, more cunning, less impulsive and reckless, more...well Slytherin. It's not the same as Harry's saving people thing, his impulse to go out and save everyone he possibly can no matter what. Snape's bravery is not less brave than Harry's, it's just a different variety of bravery. Does that make any sense? I think all of the houses are capable of being equally brave, but Gryffindors just have a tendency to be brave in more obvious and attention-grabbing ways. So, in conclusion, I think that Snape has characteristics associated with all 4 houses, but that the best matches for him are Ravenclaw and Slytherin. Slytherin does not equal evil so I'm not insulting him by saying he's a true Slytherin. Many Slytherins in the books show great bravery and other good qualities, Regulus, Narcissa, Slughorn for example. Also, this is a bit off topic, but I see Dumbledore as a true Slytherin also. Is it just me? I think his type of bravery is probably more Slytherin than Gryffindor too. And think about the Slytherin characteristics: cunning, ambitious etc. They all match him perfectly. Anyway, sorry to change the subject, but I totally don't see Dumbledore as a Gryffindor either even though he is one. I think that occasionally the Sorting Hat is wrong, just look at Peter, how did a total coward like him get into Gryffindor?!
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JKR said Snape was correctly sorted into Slytherin. So I feel that is where he would have gone no matter what. However, I also don't feel Slytherin house is inherently evil.


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Although Jo has already said during one of her numerous interviews that Snape was always a Slytherin, I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone else's thoughts about it.

So, imagine that Jo didn't tell us this. Looking at Snape's character throughout the series, which House does he seem best suited for?

Perhaps Gryffindor: the extent of Snape's immense bravery was finally revealed to us in The Prince's Tale, but is this enough to make him a Gryffindor in the eyes of the Hat?

Perhaps Slytherin: Snape's cunning has been evident thoroughout the series, especially in DH, and he certainly uses any means to achieve his ends. Are these what the Hat would consider to be Snape's defining character traits?

Perhaps Ravenclaw: throughout the series, Snape is arguably the most intelligent wizard alive (save for the obvious DD and LV, who are in a league of their own). Is that enough to earn him a place in Ravenclaw's House?

Perhaps Huffelpuff: from the moment Snape relayed the Prophecy to LV, his loyatly to DD (and Lily's memory) never once wavered, despite what the evidence often suggested when taken at face value. Would this be enough to make him welcome in Hufflepuff's House?


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