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BABIES! Lots of Them! Like a Wizarding Baby Boom!, Birth Rates Often Go Up After a War. |
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 Aug 26 2008, 08:34 AM
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If World War II is any indication, it would seem that the decades following the Final Battle would generate a plethera of The Next Generation. Not just among our heros and their families, but all over the wizarding world!? What do you think . . . will Hogwarts have to add more towers, dungeons, and "Come and Go Rooms" in order to accomodate?
This post has been edited by Ex Libres Cogito: Aug 26 2008, 11:11 PM
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Aug 26 2008, 10:10 AM
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Hmmm, I hadn't thought about that (I say that a lot on these bords  )
I guess there would be a baby boom after the war, I mean this (Voldy&co) has been terrorising the wizarding world, one way or another for how long? 20? 30 years? And now the threat has been erased, finally! It would make sence they, like after WW2, expirienced a baby boom.
but would Hogwarts need to expand to handel the increasing studentmass? I doubt it. The reason I say this is simply "It's magic" I would guess dormitories, housetable etc. would expand according to how many students there are that year (I find it hard to believe there is allways 5 beds in gry.dorms... It would probably adjust itself according to need) So I doubt they'd need extra towers/dungeons.
I doubt size will ever be an issue there, the castle is enormous, and there is 200-300 (In HP years) students, I doubt a few more would do much harm.
The only part I can see would be problematic, would be classes, there are normally about 20 students per class, with a mix of two houses, now if there is much more than 10 more students per class, I can see a problem. Of course you don't need to mix two houses, you can just have one at a time, but the houses would be rather isolated, something I don't think they'd want after a war...
To summarize, there probably will be a baby boom, but it most likely wont cause much problems...
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Aug 26 2008, 10:26 AM
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That's an ineresting question, ELC 
I would assume that after there very well could be a baby boom, and this is a very probable estimation. Since Hogwarts will have to be renovated and rebuilt to account for the damage after the war, there very well could be additions made.
However, to expand on this, I wonder if a baby boom will require more wizarding schools, and if Hogsmeade will be expanded upon too. Or maybe an additional wizarding town near Hogwarts will be feasible.
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Aug 26 2008, 10:48 AM
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Thats interesting point. Yes, I certainly would believe there would be some sort of baby boom. The threat of Voldy and his followers has effectively gone. So people can go on enjoying life now, they no longer have to hold that sense of fear. Even if people believed Voldemort was gone, after the first war, you still had the threat of his followers. But thats effectively gone now, because Voldemort was finally killed. Also think about the drastic political and social changes that followed after Voldemorts defeat. It could mean blood status no longer dictated to marriage and breeding.
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Aug 27 2008, 05:39 AM
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QUOTE(Azkaban's_Angel @ Aug 26 2008, 06:38 PM)  I think if there was to be a baby boom it would have been after the first wizarding war.
Very interesting conclusion, Azkaban's_Angel, and one that I would make if there were no question that Voldemort had been completely destroyed when he attacked Baby Harry. Yet even Dumbledore, when relocating Harry to 4 Privet (HP PS/SS "The Boy Who Lived"), reveals that the "rumors" seem true -- that Voldemort has been "greatly reduced." Yes, it is cause for celebration; and perhaps there was a lesser boom at that time. However, the Battle of Hogwarts, leaves no question of Voldemort's fate. His body lies completely lifeless on the floor of the Great Hall -- something that did not occur years prior. He has at this point been utterly defeated; and quite visibly so. In addition, many of his Death Eaters have been extinguished, as well. A new order (not organization; but rather calm) descends upon the survivors. Here, I think, is where the true boom of children will occur.
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Aug 27 2008, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(roonwit @ Aug 27 2008, 01:14 PM) I don't know if the second war was long enough to provoke a baby boom. There were 2 years of war preceded by maybe half a year of increasing danger, which might have caused couples to put off having children but the numbers would be small. Once you allow for the effects of potential parents who were killed in the war, and that the number of muggle borns wouldn't change since their parents wouldn't be aware of the war, you are maybe only talking an extra person per dormitory, and I suspect that could be dealt with simply by adding extra furniture.
Please help me to understand the "Baby Boom" experience in the UK following WWII. In the US, the Great Depression (1929-1939+) whether by fear, economics, or other factors led to smaller families (fewer mouths to feed, husbands away seeking employment (FDR's WPA), etc.). Then a new terror was unleashed primarily on Europe. Was this a carry-over from WWI? Finally, the US was attacked at Pearl Harbor, thus officially entering WWII. The war economy picked up; and US citizens found themselves united with "The Allies." After the Allies achieved victory over Germany, the U.S. continued the war against Japan, culminating with the deadly atomic bomb (2 of them actually). US veterans returning home were given certain benefits which allowed them an education, employment, and housing -- all of which assisted them in building families. Thus the Baby Boom (at least in the US) included children born from WWII era through 1965 (Vietnam?). Thus 10 years of pre-War Depression + 5 years (+/-) of involvement in WWII led to a massive boom in the US birthrate.
In the Wizarding World, it is difficult to know the condition of the economy, especially in the UK (prior to the rise of Voldemort and his Death Eaters). But what about during the terror of Grindewald? Voldemort, in his first(?) bid for power amassed huge numbers of dark wizards and other creatures, and who knows what else??
This could have unhinged the feelings of "community" in the W.W. long before his attack on the Potter Family. I don't know of any wizarding family with more than 3 or 4 children throughout the series -- other than the Weasleys. Was this the nature of wizarding families? And many magic Muggle-born folk were certain to avoid the conflict if they could, weren't they? But 2 years' war with 1/2 year precipitating danger seems to leave open a much greater time line of restrained family growth.
At least after the Final Battle, this extreme level of stress, and very difficult circumstances seem to have dissipated to a large extent. Yet, let's keep in mind that we are, after all, speaking of the wizarding world. Much could happen differently in it than in our world, couldn't it??
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Aug 27 2008, 03:39 PM
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I think from the UK point of view, the hardship didn't end when the war did - there was still rationing, the country was close to being bankrupt, and there was a lot of damage to repair or replace. This probably wouldn't be the case, or at least not so widespread or not so severe after the time Voldemort was in power. It was probably also a factor that at the end of the Second World War a lot of men would had been away fighting, sometimes for years, came home to their wives.
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(you like the name?), there will be CONSIDERABLE amounts of Hogwarts that will need rebuilding. So they would be able to accomadate the Hogwarts students even if the numbers increase. They will probably expect this if it happened in the Dark Ages (Voldemorts first 11 year reign) and they will add as much of the building that is need. 
