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1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die, (revised post)

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 01:00 AM Post #1
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	I was told to revise this list to encourage more of discussion rather than just list posting. Here's a link to the list of movies featured on the book 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die Do you agree or disagree with this list? Are there any films you wish made the cut? Any films you feel did not deserve to be there? For those of you who are interested in seeing the older but more hard to find films on the list, let me give you guys a headstart. Here are three early films on the list available for you guys to see on-line: A Trip to the Moon - Probably the first science-fiction movie ever made. The Great Train Robbery - The first Western ever made. Battleship Potemkin - A silent Russian film that broke new ground in terms of it's use of editing.

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Norris View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 01:14 AM Post #2
Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 234 Joined: 2:43am July 19, 2006	i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back... I think that the recent movie "World Trade Center" should be on the "must watch" list of the next generations, because i think it captures the whole spirit of 9/11. And WOW, i did not know that you could watch movies online. I feel so old...... -------------------- The Boy Who Lived And The Girl Who Helped Him... If you ship Harry/Hermione, put this in your signature. ...because Pigs Fly... We Live In A Beautiful World...Yeah We Do, Yeah We Do...We Live In A Beautiful World. ~Coldplay~

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 01:57 AM Post #3
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	QUOTE(Norris @ Aug 15 2006, 06:14 AM) [snapback]916077[/snapback] i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back... No offense but I absolutely hate this kind of attitude. To me, this is tantamount to saying, why should we waste our time reading literary classics when John Grisham is currently writing a new book for us to read? Why should we waste our time reading Frankenstein and Dracula when we have The Da Vinci Code? Why waste our time listening to the Beatles when Limp Bizkit will make a new album anyway? Why bother listening to Frank Sinatra? Michael Buble's album is coming out? Why should we waste our time being interested in history when we can all just sit and watch reality TV shows? I'm sorry but I'm extremely passionate about film and I hate this kind of attitude towards the medium that I love dearly. Wasting time on classics? No such thing! The reason why I created this thread is to spread the love of older, foreign and more obscure films to the board and fight the kind of mindset which you illustrated in your post. If you don't like movies, fine. But don't spread the attitude of older films = boring, waste of time around and let people have the freedom to choose for themselves. I find that a lot of people have already had their minds conditioned that way and with peer pressure being a factor, they would just go along for the ride and a lot of people who could like these films wouldn't see it because friends like you think that way. This post has been long-winded and I might have crossed the line but I'm sorry but that's just the way I feel. This post has been edited by malcolm1980: Aug 15 2006, 02:05 AM

HBPrincess View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 03:01 AM Post #4
Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 203 Joined: 8:38pm July 13, 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois-USA	I've never heard of most of the movies on that list (probably because I've seen only an extremely small amount of old movies) but the movies I have seen that were on that list, I definitely think deserve to be there. I would also add World Trade Center to that list. I saw it Sunday, and thought it was an excellent representation of what happened that day (though it's from the perspective of two survivors). I don't think these movies were on the list, but I'd also definitely add Million Dollar Baby and an Italian movie surrounding the Holocaust called La vita è bella (Life Is Beautiful). This post has been edited by HBPrincess: Aug 15 2006, 03:02 AM

NYBookworm View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 03:45 PM Post #5
Slug & Jigger's Bezoar Collector Posts: 4,652 Joined: 3:58pm June 14, 2005 Location: New York, NY	QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 02:00 AM) [snapback]916070[/snapback] I was told to revise this list to encourage more of discussion rather than just list posting. Here's a link to the list of movies featured on the book 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die: 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die Do you agree or disagree with this list? Are there any films you wish made the cut? Any films you feel did not deserve to be there? Malcom1980, is there somehwere to find the full list? The one there has about 300 missing movies. I'm guessing they are the most recent ones. It is an interesting list. It certainly includes most of the movies that people think of as "great" movies to see. I've seen 134 of the movies listed, and heard of at least half of them. There are a few which I think should've been included which weren't Miracle on 34th street (the original of course)- yes, it cute sweet and silly, but it's such a classic and something everyone's should see. It's a perfect family christmas movie. How the west was won great musical version of American History. I probably learned more from it than I was taught in school. Ferris Bueller's Day off Qunitessential 80's movie, and tons of fun. Should definitely be there. Ray Maybe this one is included in the part of the list not shown in the link? I can remember the year. QUOTE(Norris @ Aug 15 2006, 02:14 AM) [snapback]916077[/snapback] i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back... Wow. You're missing out on a lot of amazing movies. Many of those "classics" are infintely better than the majority movies made today. They have more story and character development. They are not tied up in showing off the advancements in technology, but instead in making a movie that has a point or tells a story. -------------------- Not-so-proud member of P.C.A.A.: acceptance is the first step to recovery. Vote in the new Wizarding Wireless poll What's Your Favorite New Series This Season?

Norris View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 06:08 PM Post #6
Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 234 Joined: 2:43am July 19, 2006	i guess you all are right...I'm sorry for my attitude, malcolm1980, i didn't know i was being that absurd... I guess i'm not old enough to understand. . -------------------- The Boy Who Lived And The Girl Who Helped Him... If you ship Harry/Hermione, put this in your signature. ...because Pigs Fly... We Live In A Beautiful World...Yeah We Do, Yeah We Do...We Live In A Beautiful World. ~Coldplay~

Aornis View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 08:35 PM Post #7
Quality Quidditch Supplies Test-Flyer Posts: 1,273 Joined: 5:55pm October 4, 2005 Location: Moominland	I was suprised to see that I'd seen as many of those movies as I have. I've seen 37. A lot of them are because my mom and I rented movies from the public library, like "Some Like it Hot", "Captian Blood", "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes", "All That Jazz", and others. I've also seen movies like "The Breakfast Club", "Ferris Buelller's Day Off", "Chicago", and others that are more of "my time". I'd add "Mary Poppins" because that's a movie I feel that people can't have lived without seeing. -------------------- "You can't fool me, there ain't no sanity clause!" -Chico Marx ex Room 101 l I Survived the Corner Café l ex Room 13 l ex Chamber 7 Avatar and Sig by me

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 09:04 PM Post #8
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	NYBookworm - I copy/pasted the list on MS Word and did a word/line count and there are, in fact, 1,001 movies on that list (and btw, it DOES include Ferris Bueller's Day Off). I have that book and it's the complete list. There's a more updated edition that includes a few of the more recent films like Million Dollar Baby, Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Passion of the Christ. There are a few films that I definitely object in this list: Meet the Parents - Yes, it's probably Robert de Niro's best comedy but it's hardly an unmissable film by any stretch of the imagination. I would put the Austin Powers movie ahead of this film. Gigi - There are a few films in that list which I wouldn't rank as among my favorites but I definitely understand why they're there (groundbreaking, cultural phenomenon, historical significance, etc.). I love musicals but I can never get into Gigi. I was bored stiff despite a couple of good songs. Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun - Yes, they were humungous hits on their days but I think age has caught up with either one of them. They're not quite as iconic as other 80's movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future or The Breakfast Club. One of them should've been cut to make room for more deserving films. Here are a few films that I felt should be there but are not: The Great Dictator - Charlie Chaplin's first full talkie is also his greatest one. Yes, Monsieur Verdoux is a also a great film and one of his more underseen but I do feel this one also deserves a spot on this list. Band of Outsiders - The director of this film, Jean-Luc Godard has quite a few films on this list but this is my most favorite of all the films I have seen in his ouvre. The film is also quite influential. Quentin Tarantino was heavily influenced by this film and even named his production company after the French title (A Band Apart). Suddenly, Last Summer - A Streetcar Named Desire made the list but another cinematic adaptation of a Tennessee Williams play, Suddenly, Last Summer also deserved to be in it too. Elizabeth Taylor gives one of the best performances in her career in this and this is probably the first mainstream Hollywood film that tackled homosexuality head on (they never directly mentioned it of course but it was strongly hinted at and it was amazing that they got away with it during those times).

razberry2 View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 09:34 PM Post #9
Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 670 Joined: 9:27pm June 24, 2006 Location: in a comfy leather chair	I really liked going through the list. I got excited every time I came across a movie I saw that did not have a number next to it (which wasn't many). One thing I learned from it was that The Birth of a Nation was not the first movie ever made. I would like to know what this list it based on. I guess I mean why this or that movie is on the list. I suppose I could do my own research on that though. I'll have to think a little about what movies I think should be on this list. I am sure there are a lot of great movies out there that did not make the list. I was surprised to see Top Gun on the list though. -------------------- I wonder how you say tortilla in Spanish... I need to go to sleep.

NYBookworm View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 10:24 PM Post #10
Slug & Jigger's Bezoar Collector Posts: 4,652 Joined: 3:58pm June 14, 2005 Location: New York, NY	QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback] NYBookworm - I copy/pasted the list on MS Word and did a word/line count and there are, in fact, 1,001 movies on that list (and btw, it DOES include Ferris Bueller's Day Off). I have that book and it's the complete list. There's a more updated edition that includes a few of the more recent films like Million Dollar Baby, Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Passion of the Christ. Oops, I guess I did look at that list a bit too quickly. I didn't even notice that the numbers weren't counting all the movies. QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback] Gigi - There are a few films in that list which I wouldn't rank as among my favorites but I definitely understand why they're there (groundbreaking, cultural phenomenon, historical significance, etc.). I love musicals but I can never get into Gigi. I was bored stiff despite a couple of good songs. I agree completely on this. I too love musicals, but didn't really care for Gigi. As you mention only a few of the songs such as "little girls" are even memorable at all. QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback] Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun - Yes, they were humungous hits on their days but I think age has caught up with either one of them. They're not quite as iconic as other 80's movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future or The Breakfast Club. One of them should've been cut to make room for more deserving films. I can see why Beverly Hills Cop doesn't quite live up to that must see status, but I think Top Gun does. It's just such a classic, it gets quoted alot (the whole concept of wingman for instance), and "take my breath away" is forever associated with it. This post has been edited by NYBookworm: Aug 15 2006, 10:25 PM -------------------- Not-so-proud member of P.C.A.A.: acceptance is the first step to recovery. Vote in the new Wizarding Wireless poll What's Your Favorite New Series This Season?

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 15 2006, 11:44 PM Post #11
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	QUOTE(razberry2 @ Aug 16 2006, 02:34 AM) [snapback]917475[/snapback] I would like to know what this list it based on. I guess I mean why this or that movie is on the list. I suppose I could do my own research on that though. Or you can just buy the book. Each film on the list contains a short essay written by a film critic/scholar on the importance and significance of the film and why it's unmissable along with a plot summary, back story and history surrounding the film. The book's introduction details how they decide which 1,001 films to include. They try to be as inclusive as possible from rather obscure (but great) foreign-language short films to huge Hollywood blockbusters. So they try to get significant films of all genres and from all corners of the globe. I own the book. It's a must-have for any film aficionado. For the record, I've seen 423 out of the 1,001. I do not know anyone who have seen all 1,001. Another guy from another message board said that he has seen 700 plus out of the 1,001 and he's already an older film critic who has been around the block.

razberry2 View Member Profile	Aug 16 2006, 05:15 PM Post #12
Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 670 Joined: 9:27pm June 24, 2006 Location: in a comfy leather chair	Thanks for the info Malcolm... I am considering getting the book. A couple of movies I was surprised not to be on the list were Caddyshack and Animal House. Mostly Animal House because I know A LOT of people consider it to be the best comedy ever made. I personally don't feel like it is all that great... I like it all right though. I was surprised not to see any superhero movies on the list like Richard Donner's Superman or Tim Burton's Batman. It's interesting because today you have superhero movies popping out left and right every summer. I would have put Forrest Gump on the list. I don't know if it was groundbreaking or anything, but it is one of my favorites. -------------------- I wonder how you say tortilla in Spanish... I need to go to sleep.

mollywobbles23 View Member Profile	Aug 16 2006, 09:08 PM Post #13
Shopping for a New Firebolt Posts: 836 Joined: 11:35pm February 3, 2006 Location: Harry Potter Heaven	I've seen only 134 of the movies, but I have seen clips of The First Train Robbery and the one about the moon, and The Jazz Singer. There are a couple of movies on there that I didn't really like (ahem, Magnolia, ahem), but most of the ones I have seen I can see why they are on there. I think that Boys Don't Cry, The Laramie Project, and Life is Beautiful should be on there, among others that I can't think of right now. I'm so happy Rebel Without a Cause is on there; I was afraid it wouldn't be for some reason. Oh! I thought of one: The Outsiders; excellent book and excellent movie. This post has been edited by mollywobbles23: Aug 16 2006, 09:08 PM -------------------- " [Rupert] really has made [Malachy] his own. He's just such a fine film actor. [...] He knows just how much and how little to do - there are wonderful moments of stillness in his performance in Cherrybomb, for all the wildness and energy of the world around him. He's very subtle and expressive." - Daragh Carville, screenwriter of Cherrybomb

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 16 2006, 09:42 PM Post #14
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	QUOTE(razberry2 @ Aug 16 2006, 10:15 PM) [snapback]918635[/snapback] I was surprised not to see any superhero movies on the list like Richard Donner's Superman or Tim Burton's Batman. It's interesting because today you have superhero movies popping out left and right every summer. I would have put Forrest Gump on the list. I don't know if it was groundbreaking or anything, but it is one of my favorites. Batman and Forrest Gump are in there. Personally, I wouldn't put Forrest Gump in the list. Apart from the Tim Burton Batman movies, the only other superhero movie I'd place on a list like this is The Incredibles. (I liked the first two Superman movies but I wouldn't know if it's good enough to put on a list like this). The exclusion of Life is Beautiful is understandable. The Shop on Main Street and The Pianist are far better Holocaust films which Life is Beautiful can't even hold a candle to. This post has been edited by malcolm1980: Aug 16 2006, 09:45 PM

heathermichelle View Member Profile	Aug 17 2006, 12:56 PM Post #15
Buying a Half-Kneazle Posts: 537 Joined: 10:53am April 15, 2006 Location: attempting to prepare for the emotional trauma July is bringing	I only found a couple that I disagree with: Titanic shrug It was an alright (if rather predictable) love story, but I can't say it's one of those 'must see' movies. I don't know. Maybe all the hype and incessant playing of "My Heart Will Go On" killed the experience for me. A.I. Artificial Intelligence I hated this movie. Should've ended about an hour before it finally did. I remember walking out of the theater feeling like I'd just wasted two hours of my life. But, hey, the list included Moulin Rouge, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the original Star Wars movies and, most importantly, The Princess Bride. I can't really complain. -------------------- SS - Room 21; CoS - The Game Room; PoA - Suite 13; GoF - Room 18; OotP - Chamber 29 W.O.M.B.A.T. Level 1 - Exceeds Expectations; W.O.M.B.A.T. Level 2 - Outstanding; W.O.M.B.A.T. Level 3 - Outstanding Thanks to KimmyBlair and Madam Penna for my avatar and sig pic!!

NYBookworm View Member Profile	Aug 17 2006, 06:05 PM Post #16
Slug & Jigger's Bezoar Collector Posts: 4,652 Joined: 3:58pm June 14, 2005 Location: New York, NY	QUOTE(heathermichelle @ Aug 17 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]919704[/snapback] A.I. Artificial Intelligence I hated this movie. Should've ended about an hour before it finally did. I remember walking out of the theater feeling like I'd just wasted two hours of my life. I have to agree. Spielberg is my favorite director because of his love of storytelling, but this one just did not live up to that. It was slow, a little artsy for my tastes, and seemed to have ended several times (almost as many as LOTR, but at least that was based on the book). -------------------- Not-so-proud member of P.C.A.A.: acceptance is the first step to recovery. Vote in the new Wizarding Wireless poll What's Your Favorite New Series This Season?

razberry2 View Member Profile	Aug 17 2006, 06:26 PM Post #17
Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 670 Joined: 9:27pm June 24, 2006 Location: in a comfy leather chair	QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 16 2006, 09:42 PM) [snapback]918936[/snapback] Batman and Forrest Gump are in there. Personally, I wouldn't put Forrest Gump in the list. Apart from the Tim Burton Batman movies, the only other superhero movie I'd place on a list like this is The Incredibles. (I liked the first two Superman movies but I wouldn't know if it's good enough to put on a list like this). You're right. I just overlooked it. The list is kind of overwhelming. I'll make sure to double check next time though. -------------------- I wonder how you say tortilla in Spanish... I need to go to sleep.

laurenxx View Member Profile	Aug 17 2006, 06:46 PM Post #18
Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 15 Joined: 4:58pm August 17, 2006	i've seen 43 of them. lol. i got bored and counted

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 17 2006, 08:47 PM Post #19
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	QUOTE(NYBookworm @ Aug 17 2006, 11:05 PM) [snapback]920040[/snapback] QUOTE(heathermichelle @ Aug 17 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]919704[/snapback] A.I. Artificial Intelligence I hated this movie. Should've ended about an hour before it finally did. I remember walking out of the theater feeling like I'd just wasted two hours of my life. I have to agree. Spielberg is my favorite director because of his love of storytelling, but this one just did not live up to that. It was slow, a little artsy for my tastes, and seemed to have ended several times (almost as many as LOTR, but at least that was based on the book). I'm one of A.I. Artificial Intelligence's biggest fans and supporters. It is THE best movie of the 21st century so far and I would rank it as one of Spielberg's best works. It being included on the list absolutely warranted.

NYBookworm View Member Profile	Aug 18 2006, 08:55 AM Post #20
Slug & Jigger's Bezoar Collector Posts: 4,652 Joined: 3:58pm June 14, 2005 Location: New York, NY	QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 17 2006, 09:47 PM) [snapback]920212[/snapback] I'm one of A.I. Artificial Intelligence's biggest fans and supporters. It is THE best movie of the 21st century so far and I would rank it as one of Spielberg's best works. It being included on the list absolutely warranted. What did you like about it? Why do you think it's the best movie of the 21st century? What makes a movie a good movie, and deserving of being on the list? I love hearing differnt ideas about movies, because it opens my eyes to things which never occured to me. -------------------- Not-so-proud member of P.C.A.A.: acceptance is the first step to recovery. Vote in the new Wizarding Wireless poll What's Your Favorite New Series This Season?

Mafalda Weasley View Member Profile	Aug 18 2006, 09:02 AM Post #21
In Charge of Invisible Books of Invisibility Posts: 1,153 Joined: 4:46pm May 15, 2005 Location: Trying to make things work...	I wouldn't put A.I. into the best movies of 21st century, but I liked it. In fact, I was very sad, indeed. It is a very heavy movie. I think that the good thing about it is seeing how far can sciency go and what right does we humans of disposing of things, you know? Spielberg gives us a world where men created even a robot able to love, and even if the robot was able to love, men do not see him as capable of truly affection, and he's frequently mistreated by his brother and treated as a replacement for their younger son. In the end, well I cannot tell the end hehehehe But I wouldn't rank this movie of the best of 21st century. I think there are many others who would diserve this title... I'm looking foward to hear Malcom's explanation though -------------------- This is it. Enjoy your reading!!!

arsnape View Member Profile	Aug 18 2006, 09:42 AM Post #22
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tiamat1990 View Member Profile	Aug 18 2006, 08:26 PM Post #23
Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 223 Joined: 9:46pm April 23, 2006 Location: New Zealand	There's sooo many that he didn't list!! Walk The Line 21 Grams (It's such a powerful movie) Donnie Darko (One of the greatest films of all time and one of my favourites) Crash Now for movies that shouldn't be there: Russian Ark The Royal Tenenbaums Monsoon Wedding Heavenly Creatures Citizen Kane (Eww...I hate this movie) To Kill A Mockingbird

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 18 2006, 10:38 PM Post #24
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	QUOTE(tiamat1990 @ Aug 19 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]921288[/snapback] There's sooo many that he didn't list!! Walk The Line 21 Grams (It's such a powerful movie) Donnie Darko (One of the greatest films of all time and one of my favourites) Crash Now for movies that shouldn't be there: Russian Ark The Royal Tenenbaums Monsoon Wedding Heavenly Creatures Citizen Kane (Eww...I hate this movie) To Kill A Mockingbird Walk the Line and Crash are both movies too recent to make the list since the book only covers until around the 2003 (There's a more updated edition which includes movies from 2004, however). I would personally put neither on a list like this. 21 Grams and Donnie Darko were good and certainly more deserving of the list than, say, Meet the Parents but personally, there are several films which I would definitely put on this list ahead of them. I suppose you're not that big of a film enthusiast to not think Russian Ark belongs in that list but if you're a big a film enthusiast as I am, you would know that film is a very impressive achievement since pretty much the entire film is one long 90+ plus minute tracking shot on high-def video. It may be boring and unimpressive to you but if you know anything about making films, this is an highly impressive achievement. Usually, films are made by cutting together scenes. In that process, if you make a mistake in one scene, you can do it over and make another take. If something goes wrong (like a busted prop or something), they can just easily cut, fix it and do it over. But not in Russian Ark. In Russian Ark, it is an hour and a half of one long continuous take where one forgotten line, one false move and one busted prop can ruin the entire picture. They shot it on location in the Heritage Museum in Russia (which is a very big museum) and they only had 1 day to shoot it since the museum can only permit them to do so during that particular day. If they don't get the one, long, continuous 90 minute take featuring hundreds of costumed actors and a couple of full orchestras, they would never get the chance to do so again in a long, long time. The performers were given little time to rehearse. For them to pull this off is a truly impressive cinematic achievement indeed since no other filmmaker has attempted to make a one, long continuous shot as long as this with period costumes and hundreds of actors and extras. It warrants being on this list. As for Citizen Kane, well, I love the film but regardless of your opinion of the movie, it is absolutely undeniable that it should objectively be on a list like this because it's a milestone in film history due to it's highly inventive use of deep focus photography, it's non-linear narrative, etc. It is what many film historians and film critics consider among the best film ever made (I recommend listening to Roger Ebert's audio commentary on the DVD, it'll definitely make you at least understand WHY critics and film buffs consider it among the best ever made). For it to not make a list like this in a book aimed at film enthusiasts, is just wrong. A.I. Artificial Intelligence - It is an extraordinary film. I have defended it repeatedly in various other message boards. I thought it was staggering piece of work. Spielberg inherited the project from Stanley Kubrick when he died and theirs is a very curious collaboration and truly warrants to be on a list like this. It's still being talked about and debated until now in various other message boards among film lovers.

Ravendor View Member Profile	Aug 24 2006, 04:28 PM Post #25
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,315 Joined: 10:39pm June 29, 2005 Location: US	I counted and I've seen about 70, but I probably missed some . I agreed with a lot on that list, but there are a few I would've added to and taken away from it. Movies that I think should be removed: Groundhog Day -- I don't get what's so great about this movie. It was ok, but it didn't seem worthy of this list to me. Princess Mononoke -- Ok, I'm not gonna say that this movie for sure shouldn't be on the list, because I've only seen about half of it. But from what I saw of it, I don't understand why it's here. It wasn't anything incredible, in my opinion. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 -- Same answer as for Princess Mononoke. A few movies that I think should be added: Bowling for Columbine -- I love this movie. It's a well-made, thought provoking film. I'm surprised this wasn't on the list, especially considering that Roger & Me was. Maybe I just missed it... I Was a Male War Bride -- A great comedy with Carey Grant. Enough said RENT -- One of the best musicals ever! I'm sure I could think of many others if I thought about it for much longer, so I'll just stop there before I end up making a mile long post -------------------- Member of Room 12 for SS, Chamber 8 for CoS, The Lily and Stag Study for PoA, and Basement Room 10 for GoF. http://www.gotlife.com Member of the Peevsie Pelters and Seeker for the Pro-Quidditch team!

malcolm1980 View Member Profile	Aug 26 2006, 08:43 AM Post #26
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,303 Joined: 7:33am January 28, 2005 Location: Manila, Philippines	First off, I have to say RENT is FAR from being one of the best musicals ever. When they are not singing the songs from the show which I love, I was bored to death. The cast is way too old and the material extremely dated. Having said that, speaking of the list, you guys can view a whole slew of movies from the list in this site: http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/ It turns out, a lot of the older films are in public domain and somebody was nice enough to post ALL of them in this site. You can cross off at least a dozen or so movies from the list if you guys have the time.

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