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1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die, (revised post)
malcolm1980
post Aug 15 2006, 01:00 AM
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I was told to revise this list to encourage more of discussion rather than just list posting. Here's a link to the list of movies featured on the book 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die:

1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die

Do you agree or disagree with this list? Are there any films you wish made the cut? Any films you feel did not deserve to be there?

For those of you who are interested in seeing the older but more hard to find films on the list, let me give you guys a headstart. Here are three early films on the list available for you guys to see on-line:

A Trip to the Moon - Probably the first science-fiction movie ever made.

The Great Train Robbery - The first Western ever made.

Battleship Potemkin - A silent Russian film that broke new ground in terms of it's use of editing.
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post Aug 15 2006, 01:14 AM
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i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back...

I think that the recent movie "World Trade Center" should be on the "must watch" list of the next generations, because i think it captures the whole spirit of 9/11.

And WOW, i did not know that you could watch movies online. I feel so old...lol.gif...


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post Aug 15 2006, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(Norris @ Aug 15 2006, 06:14 AM) [snapback]916077[/snapback]

i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back...


No offense but I absolutely hate this kind of attitude. To me, this is tantamount to saying, why should we waste our time reading literary classics when John Grisham is currently writing a new book for us to read? Why should we waste our time reading Frankenstein and Dracula when we have The Da Vinci Code? Why waste our time listening to the Beatles when Limp Bizkit will make a new album anyway? Why bother listening to Frank Sinatra? Michael Buble's album is coming out? Why should we waste our time being interested in history when we can all just sit and watch reality TV shows?

I'm sorry but I'm extremely passionate about film and I hate this kind of attitude towards the medium that I love dearly. Wasting time on classics? No such thing!

The reason why I created this thread is to spread the love of older, foreign and more obscure films to the board and fight the kind of mindset which you illustrated in your post. If you don't like movies, fine. But don't spread the attitude of older films = boring, waste of time around and let people have the freedom to choose for themselves. I find that a lot of people have already had their minds conditioned that way and with peer pressure being a factor, they would just go along for the ride and a lot of people who could like these films wouldn't see it because friends like you think that way.

This post has been long-winded and I might have crossed the line but I'm sorry but that's just the way I feel.


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post Aug 15 2006, 03:01 AM
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I've never heard of most of the movies on that list (probably because I've seen only an extremely small amount of old movies) but the movies I have seen that were on that list, I definitely think deserve to be there. I would also add World Trade Center to that list. I saw it Sunday, and thought it was an excellent representation of what happened that day (though it's from the perspective of two survivors). I don't think these movies were on the list, but I'd also definitely add Million Dollar Baby and an Italian movie surrounding the Holocaust called La vita è bella (Life Is Beautiful).

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post Aug 15 2006, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 02:00 AM) [snapback]916070[/snapback]

I was told to revise this list to encourage more of discussion rather than just list posting. Here's a link to the list of movies featured on the book 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die:

1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die

Do you agree or disagree with this list? Are there any films you wish made the cut? Any films you feel did not deserve to be there?


Malcom1980, is there somehwere to find the full list? The one there has about 300 missing movies. I'm guessing they are the most recent ones.

It is an interesting list. It certainly includes most of the movies that people think of as "great" movies to see. I've seen 134 of the movies listed, and heard of at least half of them.

There are a few which I think should've been included which weren't

Miracle on 34th street (the original of course)- yes, it cute sweet and silly, but it's such a classic and something everyone's should see. It's a perfect family christmas movie.

How the west was won great musical version of American History. I probably learned more from it than I was taught in school.

Ferris Bueller's Day off Qunitessential 80's movie, and tons of fun. Should definitely be there.

Ray Maybe this one is included in the part of the list not shown in the link? I can remember the year.


QUOTE(Norris @ Aug 15 2006, 02:14 AM) [snapback]916077[/snapback]

i don't agree with most of the first films on the list, because, i don't know, i wouldn't want to waste my time on old classics, but no doubt someone else would so i take my words back...


Wow. You're missing out on a lot of amazing movies. Many of those "classics" are infintely better than the majority movies made today. They have more story and character development. They are not tied up in showing off the advancements in technology, but instead in making a movie that has a point or tells a story.


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post Aug 15 2006, 06:08 PM
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i guess you all are right...I'm sorry for my attitude, malcolm1980, i didn't know i was being that absurd... I guess i'm not old enough to understand. smile.gif .


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I was suprised to see that I'd seen as many of those movies as I have. I've seen 37. A lot of them are because my mom and I rented movies from the public library, like "Some Like it Hot", "Captian Blood", "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes", "All That Jazz", and others.

I've also seen movies like "The Breakfast Club", "Ferris Buelller's Day Off", "Chicago", and others that are more of "my time".

I'd add "Mary Poppins" because that's a movie I feel that people can't have lived without seeing.


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NYBookworm - I copy/pasted the list on MS Word and did a word/line count and there are, in fact, 1,001 movies on that list (and btw, it DOES include Ferris Bueller's Day Off). I have that book and it's the complete list. There's a more updated edition that includes a few of the more recent films like Million Dollar Baby, Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Passion of the Christ.

There are a few films that I definitely object in this list:

Meet the Parents - Yes, it's probably Robert de Niro's best comedy but it's hardly an unmissable film by any stretch of the imagination. I would put the Austin Powers movie ahead of this film.

Gigi - There are a few films in that list which I wouldn't rank as among my favorites but I definitely understand why they're there (groundbreaking, cultural phenomenon, historical significance, etc.). I love musicals but I can never get into Gigi. I was bored stiff despite a couple of good songs.

Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun - Yes, they were humungous hits on their days but I think age has caught up with either one of them. They're not quite as iconic as other 80's movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future or The Breakfast Club. One of them should've been cut to make room for more deserving films.

Here are a few films that I felt should be there but are not:

The Great Dictator - Charlie Chaplin's first full talkie is also his greatest one. Yes, Monsieur Verdoux is a also a great film and one of his more underseen but I do feel this one also deserves a spot on this list.

Band of Outsiders - The director of this film, Jean-Luc Godard has quite a few films on this list but this is my most favorite of all the films I have seen in his ouvre. The film is also quite influential. Quentin Tarantino was heavily influenced by this film and even named his production company after the French title (A Band Apart).

Suddenly, Last Summer - A Streetcar Named Desire made the list but another cinematic adaptation of a Tennessee Williams play, Suddenly, Last Summer also deserved to be in it too. Elizabeth Taylor gives one of the best performances in her career in this and this is probably the first mainstream Hollywood film that tackled homosexuality head on (they never directly mentioned it of course but it was strongly hinted at and it was amazing that they got away with it during those times).

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I really liked going through the list. I got excited every time I came across a movie I saw that did not have a number next to it (which wasn't many). One thing I learned from it was that The Birth of a Nation was not the first movie ever made. I would like to know what this list it based on. I guess I mean why this or that movie is on the list. I suppose I could do my own research on that though. I'll have to think a little about what movies I think should be on this list. I am sure there are a lot of great movies out there that did not make the list. I was surprised to see Top Gun on the list though.


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QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback]

NYBookworm - I copy/pasted the list on MS Word and did a word/line count and there are, in fact, 1,001 movies on that list (and btw, it DOES include Ferris Bueller's Day Off). I have that book and it's the complete list. There's a more updated edition that includes a few of the more recent films like Million Dollar Baby, Fahrenheit 9/11 and The Passion of the Christ.


Oops, I guess I did look at that list a bit too quickly. I didn't even notice that the numbers weren't counting all the movies.

QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback]

Gigi - There are a few films in that list which I wouldn't rank as among my favorites but I definitely understand why they're there (groundbreaking, cultural phenomenon, historical significance, etc.). I love musicals but I can never get into Gigi. I was bored stiff despite a couple of good songs.


I agree completely on this. I too love musicals, but didn't really care for Gigi. As you mention only a few of the songs such as "little girls" are even memorable at all.

QUOTE(malcolm1980 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]917435[/snapback]

Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun - Yes, they were humungous hits on their days but I think age has caught up with either one of them. They're not quite as iconic as other 80's movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future or The Breakfast Club. One of them should've been cut to make room for more deserving films.


I can see why Beverly Hills Cop doesn't quite live up to that must see status, but I think Top Gun does. It's just such a classic, it gets quoted alot (the whole concept of wingman for instance), and "take my breath away" is forever associated with it.


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