15 year old girl charged with child pornography..., for posting nude pictures of herself. |
 Oct 10 2008, 11:25 AM
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Director of Farcical Aquatic Ceremonies  Posts: 9,187 Joined: 2:55pm January 28, 2005 Location: Classified, until such time as the Ministry sees fit to release it.   |
The AP is reporting:
QUOTE PITTSBURGH (AP) — A 15-year-old girl has been arrested for taking nude photographs of her self and posting them on the Internet, police said. The girl, whose identity was withheld, was accused of sending out photographs of herself in various states of undress... She sent them to people she met in chat rooms on the Internet, police said. Police seized her computer and found dozens of photographs stored on the hard drive. Authorities did not say how police learned about the girl. She has been charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and dissemination of child pornography. Do you think this girl should be facing criminal charges? Should she receive counseling instead of being charged with a crime? What blame do her parents bear? In today's society where we provide sex education and condoms to children younger than her, should she be considered old enough to make the decision that she wants to sexually express herself by distributing nude photos?  |
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Oct 13 2008, 07:23 PM
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Spellotaping Monster Books of Monsters  Posts: 2,500 Joined: 9:26am July 24, 2007 Location: I'm either in the Muggle Underground Forum or at the Hogwarts Express Roundhouse |
Oh ... my ... Lord.
Let's defer the criminal actions and get this young woman into some heavy-duty therapy. Now. Today. Let's get the parents, if necessary under police escort, also into some heavy-duty therapy. Who was minding the store??? I knew when my son decided to look at topless women, and we had a longgggggggggggg talk ... his parental control settings got dialed back almost to non-existence, and he was subject to me looking over his shoulder and at his hard drive. -------------------- The last enemy to be destroyed is death-- First Corinthians, Chapter 15, Verse 26 The epitaph of James and Lily Potter |
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Oct 13 2008, 07:30 PM
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Gringott's Cart Axle Greaser Posts: 2,789 Joined: 5:22pm February 18, 2007 Location: Argentina |
Um. IMHO, that girl needs to talk with someone about it and get back on the right track. Getting arrested for exploting herself? Not quite, since she is also the victim of her actions.
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Oct 13 2008, 07:35 PM
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Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 641 Joined: 8:47pm August 26, 2008 Location: The room of requirement waiting for Snape |
Crikey.
I think in todays western society children tend to grow up so young-they end up exploring things and parts of themselves that previously they would have been unaware of at that age. What a silly girl-she was lucky that nothing bad happened to her before the police stepped in, she would have made herself a target for all sorts of sexual predators. Should she be charged with a criminal offence? Imo I don't think so. I think someone needs to explore why this young girl felt the need to display herself in such a way, and in such a public manner. -------------------- ....and there was a noise like a plunger being withdrawn from a blocked sink......
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Oct 13 2008, 07:43 PM
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Shopping for a New Firebolt Posts: 809 Joined: 4:31am June 18, 2007 |
Yeah see this has puzzled me a bit. If a child takes a nude picture of herself, it is child pornography. Therefore, if that same child looks at the nude picture of herself, she is viewing child pornography and is therefore breaking the law. So if a child takes a picture of herself nude, she becomes instantly guilty of possession of child pornography and is breaking the law. Weird.
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Oct 13 2008, 07:51 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 574 Joined: 12:36am July 7, 2008 Location: FORKS :) |
i am extremely liberal and i dont think she should be punished, at least not legally. she will go through enough, people calling her a slut and god knows what else, she will be miserable. i just think that nowadays, nude pictures are basically another form of self-expression. methods of expressing ones self have changed throughout the decades, and this is just another fad, and like always, the subject will learn from it. i, of course, know that it is technically against the law, but i just think that if someone attempted to kill themself and failed, they arent charged with attempted murder, although technically, it is attempted murder. instead they give the suicidal person help, which is what should be done for the girl who instead of her being charged with a crime.
This post has been edited by hufflemuffinx: Oct 13 2008, 07:53 PM --------------------   credit to Jeffhpfan for the avvie |
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Oct 13 2008, 08:06 PM
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Sundae-Nut-Chopper at Florean Fortescue's Posts: 914 Joined: 6:35pm April 4, 2008 Location: Great White North |
Just as I read this story, and OMG,OMG,OMG, I see that a 12 year old girl in our family has posted a huge tirade about her mother on her MSN site for all to read - her mother would be so pleased (total sarcasm). My point of bringing that up is I have had many conversations with young people about the power of the internet. The information that I have seen from young people, photos, phone numbers, schools they attend, boyfriends and the extent of the involvement (again OMG), far too much personal information, when their parents are out of the house and such. The number of sexy, suggestive photos that so many of them place on their Facebook accounts blows me away. I do know these kids and their parents and wouldn't put them into a category of not paying attention or uninvolved with their kids either. I think that so many parents are technophobs and just aren't keeping up with all the communication avenues that kids use - a million times better than adults. Even cell phones are equipped with cameras and the kids are constantly using them and posting their pics online.
Back to the originating story - I do feel that this young girl should be charged as a minor with distributing her photos and her punishment should be serious counselling and be forbidden from using the internet unsupervised (a toughie). I would be so terribly concerned about the chat sites that she is visiting and the people that she is associating with, her lack of self respect and lack of parental guidance/supervision. As much fun as I have online, the freedom and accessiblity of the internet that is available to children concerns me. Here in Canada stores that sell cigarettes have to hide them behind cupboards as not to advertise the product to kids - and yet the avenues that they can use and view online is frightening. -------------------- '- yet sadly, accidental rudeness occurs alarmingly often,'.....Albus Dumbledore |
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Oct 13 2008, 08:08 PM
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Monster Book Stacker Posts: 358 Joined: 9:13am August 11, 2007 |
I remember when I was 15, girls like this made my life complete. Dumb, naieeve and not camera shy ;)
I'm going to write this off as kids being kids, and say they shouldn't force criminal charges. Although the young folk these days need to know to be pretty careful, because you know once your pictures are on one website, they will soon be on just about every website. It's the simple truth of the internet, if it's posted on one site, it's going to be posted on a thousand more. I'm also not sure if it counts as child pornography, I mean, does it count as child pornography if you make it and send it all by yourself? QUOTE(hufflemuffinx @ Oct 13 2008, 04:51 PM)  i am extremely liberal and i dont think she should be punished, at least not legally. she will go through enough, people calling her a slut and god knows what else, she will be miserable. i just think that nowadays, nude pictures are basically another form of self-expression. methods of expressing ones self have changed throughout the decades, and this is just another fad, and like always, the subject will learn from it. i, of course, know that it is technically against the law, but i just think that if someone attempted to kill themself and failed, they arent charged with attempted murder, although technically, it is attempted murder. instead they give the suicidal person help, which is what should be done for the girl who instead of her being charged with a crime. I think it's not so much a fad as much as it is a sign of changing technology. For example, when my girlfriends send me "Beyond pg 13 photos" all they have to do is borrow a digital camera or cellphone (I have some pretty broke girlfriends, that's why I say borrow), snap, email, delete. All clean and done, no hassling with the one hour photo, no evidence laying around the house. Sadly this means that 15 year old girls can have access to that technology with their cellphones and such, and believe me the 15 year old boys aren't going to encourage her not to take dirty photos and send 'em out. Really it just means now adays parents are going to have to be a little more tough and letting their daughters know what happens to pictures on the internet. Before they find out themselves anyway -------------------- Dumbledore has a posse.
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Oct 14 2008, 09:29 AM
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Gringott's Cart Axle Greaser Posts: 2,789 Joined: 5:22pm February 18, 2007 Location: Argentina |
QUOTE(hufflemuffinx @ Oct 13 2008, 10:51 PM) but i just think that if someone attempted to kill themself and failed, they arent charged with attempted murder, although technically, it is attempted murder. instead they give the suicidal person help, which is what should be done for the girl who instead of her being charged with a crime. I completely agree. This girl being charged for sexual abuse of children and possession of child pornography is as ridiculous as trying to accuse someone of voyeurism for seing themselves naked in the shower. And whereas I agree that she did distribute those pictures, she is still her own victim. This post has been edited by Fer_keeper: Oct 14 2008, 09:32 AM -------------------- Oh, well, thank you very much, very nice of you. Your vote of confidence is overwhelming.
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Oct 14 2008, 10:59 AM
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Director of Farcical Aquatic Ceremonies Posts: 9,187 Joined: 2:55pm January 28, 2005 Location: Classified, until such time as the Ministry sees fit to release it. |
QUOTE(Fer_keeper @ Oct 14 2008, 10:29 AM) QUOTE(hufflemuffinx @ Oct 13 2008, 10:51 PM) but i just think that if someone attempted to kill themself and failed, they arent charged with attempted murder, although technically, it is attempted murder. instead they give the suicidal person help, which is what should be done for the girl who instead of her being charged with a crime. I completely agree. This girl being charged for sexual abuse of children and possession of child pornography is as ridiculous as trying to accuse someone of voyeurism for seing themselves naked in the shower. And whereas I agree that she did distribute those pictures, she is still her own victim. Well, the issue here could be that there is likely a zero tolerance law in place about child porn making it an offense to possess and/or distribute nude/pornographic photos of children under 18. The law is blind (that's part of the "zero tolerance" bit) regarding who's in possession of the material so it doesn't matter if it's the child herself. There have been other cases where teenage boys have gotten in trouble because they received forwarded pictures from their girlfriends or took the pictures themselves and then kept them for private use. There was no distribution involved, but they were still charged. Cases like this can be illogical by-product of zero-tolerance laws, which I think are a very bad idea. Of course, that's probably a subject for another thread.  |
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