Albus Severus Potter, Which Hous is he in & what is he like? |
 Jun 2 2009, 08:32 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 5 Joined: 7:57pm June 2, 2009  |
I see him as kinda of like harry. I also see him as a gryfindor. I think his fear is like harry in the first book and that is why he is a gryfindor.
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Jun 25 2009, 01:32 AM
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Disgruntled House-Elf at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 434 Joined: 11:51pm July 7, 2006 Location: Dallas, TX USA |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Apr 28 2009, 07:25 AM)  QUOTE(fr0z3nfire @ Apr 28 2009, 07:56 AM) I think Albus Dumbledore was sorted into Slytherin. He wasn't. We know that Snape was the first Slytherin Headmaster since Phineas Nigellus. I see no reason to disbelieve Hermione's statement that Dumbledore was in Gryffindor, and although she says "I heard that ..." rather than stating it outright, when is Hermione ever wrong about facts?Incidentally, Grindelwald wasn't a Slytherin either because he went to Durmstrang, so was never sorted into any Hogwarts house. Thank you, roonwit! It has been a long time since I've been around these parts, having spent my time in fan fiction instead of forums. However, it's wonderful to see that you are still here bringing logic and facts to the boards! Yes, Snape was the first headmaster from Slytherin House since Phineas Nigellus. Being aware of this, Harry tells Al the following on page 758, Scholastic, American edition: QUOTE Albus Severus," Harry said quietly, so that nobody but Ginny could hear, and she was tactful enough to pretend to be waving to Rose, who was now on the train, "you were named for two headmasters of Hogwarts. One of them was a Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever knew." Emphasis mine.Harry tells his son explicitly that one of the two former headmasters for whom he was named was from Slytherin House. One! Dumbledore was not a Slytherin, no matter how ambitious he might have been in his youth. Also, note that Snape was not a Gryffindor, despite the fact that he was probably the bravest man Harry ever knew! One trait does not define a person's assignment to a house at Hogwarts. If that was the case, Hermione would have been a Ravenclaw, as she was thought by many to be the brightest witch of her generation. Furthermore, Harry defines Al's conundrum for us after Al briefly interrupts him: QUOTE - then Slytherin House will have gained an excellent student, won't it? It doesn't matter to us, Al. But if it matters to you, you'll be able to choose Gryffindor over Slytherin. The Sorting Hat takes your choice into account. I'd also like to comment on the ASP argument. I know a man whose initials are JEB, IV. He is called Jeb, not James, Edward, or Chip, Bud, or Quatro. But RAB was not called Rab. He was called Regulus. If one reads the epilogue with the slightest bit of care, Albus Severus Potter was not called Asp. He was not called Severus, or Sev. Other than the one time Harry called him by his full name, he is called Al, and only Al, by the other characters. Yes, the author refers to him as Albus, but the characters do not. On page 755, Scholastic, US edition, Ginny calls her youngest son "Al." QUOTE "I think that's them, Al," said Ginny suddenly. James calls his brother "Al" on page 757. QUOTE "Yeah!" said James enthusiastically. "I don't mind sharing with Al - Teddy could have my room. Harry calls his youngest son "Al." (Also on page 757) QUOTE "No," said Harry firmly, "you and Al will share a room only when I want the house demolished. James calls his brother "Al" for a second time. (Again on page 757.) QUOTE "See you later, Al. Watch out for the thestrals. Harry again calls his youngest son "Al," this time on page 758. QUOTE "Bye, Al," said Harry as his son hugged him. "Don't forget Hagrid's invited you to tea next Friday. Don't mess with Peeves. Don't duel anyone till you've learned how. And don't let James wind you up." Finally, during the same chain of thought in which Harry calls his son "Albus Severus," he turns right around and calls him "Al." (Still page 758.) QUOTE ...It doesn't matter to us, Al. But if it matters to you, you'll be able to choose Gryffindor over Slytherin. The Sorting Hat takes your choice into account." So, the only time any character used Al's middle name, it was used as part of his full first name. Harry called him "Albus Severus," as quoted above from page 758, Scholastic, American edition. Harry and Ginny's second child was called "Al" by his family in every reference there is in the canon, save the one time Harry used both full names to make a specific example. Six times in less than seven pages, he was called "Al." Once he was called "Albus Severus" but only to make the point that Al's fear of Slytherin House and his preference for Gryffindor need not be so overwhelming. I realize it's a personal belief, but when I was doing a lot of exegetical analyses, six for six uses of "Al" when his name was used in a conversational mode would be pretty compelling!! To my way of thinking, if one were to try to infer anything about the importance of his initials, the argument does not fare well compared to the fact that he was called Al. Not Albus. Not Severus. Not Asp. He was simply called Al ... Al Potter. He looked like Harry, including the fact that he, alone among Harry's children, had inherited Lily Evans' eyes. In short, since Harry looked like his father, a pureblood Gryffindor, except for his mother's eyes, his mother being a Muggle-born Gryffindor, I see nothing in the canon to suggest that he was destined for Slytherin House. This is especially compelling because he was clearly stressed about the possibility of being assigned to Slytherin! We know one of Al's characteristics -- that he was sensitive, which some have argued might make him a candidate for Hufflepuff House. That's a possibility. Some have argued that his sensitive nature might make him a perfect candidate for Ravenclaw, which baffles me. Yes, Luna was sensitive, and Cho might have been, as well, but wit and intelligence were the key characteristics of a Ravenclaw!  I would also argue that Al might have inherited Ginny's feistiness, because Harry thought putting him and James in the same room might cause a hazard to their home! Yes, he was kidding, but I don't think it was facetious! Al didn't want to be in Slytherin House. Harry gave him a reason to possbily reconsider, but I find it unlikely that he would do so. Given the fact that the canon does not show a single Weasley, Prewett, Potter, or Evans who was not in Gryffindor House, I would guess that is where he ended up. GUESS! My own guess at order of probability: 1. Gryffindor -- by a wide margin, for Harry tells us Al prefers Gryffindor over Slytherin, at least. 2. Hufflepuff -- unlikely, but possible. 3. Ravenclaw -- unlikely, but possible. 4. Slytherin -- technically possible, but highly, highly unlikely. One final thought in response to the idea that Scorpius Malfoy (or ASP) might be the one to redeem Slytherin House ... it has been nineteen years since the Battle of Hogwarts and Harry tells Al that the choice of house doesn't matter to either Ginny or him! If some student hasn't been redemptive for Slytherin House in nineteen years, then there's a big problem in the wizarding world!! Anyway, I think Severus Snape redeemed Slytherin House over the last eighteen years or so of his life! And if that wasn't good enough, Horace Slughorn picked up his wand and fought for the Side of Light. Oh, my! I'm sorry this is so long, but the facts are simply compelling to my eyes! Edited to add ... HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO ME! TODAY MARKS 32 WONDERFUL YEARS WITH MY LOVELY BRIDE!!! Well, March 10 marked 36 years from our first date! This post has been edited by Tom Bombadil: Jun 25 2009, 01:42 AM -------------------- My Harry/Ginny and Hermione/Ron fan fiction is in the restricted section of Simply Undeniable.com!
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Jun 25 2009, 02:33 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 19 Joined: 11:26am May 24, 2009  |
I wonder that too.
Being the son of both Gryffindors, 90% is that he has their qualitys, which would make him a Gryffindor 20 times. From the other side, Harry was nearly chosen to Slytherin in his first year, and only because he didn't want to get in there he got Gryffindor. If AS doesn't want to get into that house, I'm sure the hat would let him go to Gryffindor like his father. But, he could have had the qualitys of a Ravenclaw, or even a Hufflepuff, JK didn't write so much about his personallity. I guess that will just remain a mistery. -------------------- "Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure." |
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Jun 25 2009, 03:30 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 37 Joined: 8:29am August 28, 2007 Location: Stealing Lupin from Grimmauld Place |
I am a bit sick fo the people calling Albus shy and quiet etc...
think of the times when you have to do something that's a bit dauntinglike for example go to a brand new school away from ur parents where u hardly know anybody? any think that MAYBE he was nervous? when i get nervous i go quiet and i'm usually quite a loud and talkative person James isn't a bully, he's an older brother. Do you guys think Fred and George were bullies? It's like na unwritten rule that an older brother teases the younger sibling(s). I think ASP is a gryffindor. Maybe becuase i think it's jsut in him somewhere. Harry wasn't brave when it came to hogwarts he was so nervous and worried just before the sorting hat. I don't think the sorting hat looks at outward braveness (which harry's dad showed) but the inward things and inside albus is bravery. -------------------- Albus Dumbledore: "Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy."
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Jul 7 2009, 03:35 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 4 Joined: 10:20pm July 16, 2008 Location: Virginia |
I think it's too Weasley to have a family with members all being in the same house.
Why can't Albus Severus be like Sirius and break trend but in reverse. I think he'd be brilliant in Slytherin and the animosity some people would still have towards that house would evaporate some with the Man-Who-Lived's son in that house. Besides, he's so worried about it but Harry would be proud of him either way. I bet he'd get along great with Scorpius too! It doesn't always have to be all the Gryffindors together and a Weasley and Potter friendship. I don't want to see another trio repeat with the kids. They aren't exactly like their parents. Albus can be different than his dad. Better yet, I'd love to see Albus or Scorpius in Ravenclaw! --------------------  "Let's hold hands until the loneliness disappears." |
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Jul 8 2009, 12:43 AM
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Disgruntled House-Elf at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 434 Joined: 11:51pm July 7, 2006 Location: Dallas, TX USA |
QUOTE Why can't Albus Severus be like Sirius and break trend but in reverse. I think he'd be brilliant in Slytherin and the animosity some people would still have towards that house would evaporate some with the Man-Who-Lived's son in that house. Besides, he's so worried about it but Harry would be proud of him either way. You have a very good point, here, Ouroboros, as to the point that Harry would be proud of him either way. I think that's true, especially given what we know about Harry's desire to have an ordinary life and a family he loves! As for Al doing what Sirius did, but in reverse, I think this argument (which has been made frequently) is completely missing the point. If Al ended up in Slytherin, he wouldn't be doing the same thing Sirius did. Sirius Black's choice to go to Gryffindor over Slytherin House was part of a total rejection of his family and everything it stood for. It was the pure-blood mania of the Black family that he was rejecting. Since Slytherin House supported that mania, he needed to reject Slytherin House as a part of his rejection of evil. Rejecting Slytherin House was a part of a major, life-altering move by Sirius. He lost the respect of his parents, his brother, and most of his other relatives (though thankfully not all) in the process. If Al went into another house, there would be huge differences: 1. He would not be making a major statement on the values of life ... good versus evil, as Sirius did. 2. He would not lose the love and respect of his family. Harry made that explicitly clear through the things he disclosed to Al on Platform 9-3/4. 3.From what JKR has told us about the Hogwarts Houses post-Deathly Hallows, Slytherin is no longer a place for pure-blood mania or hatred to fester and grow. Therefore, it is not diametrically opposed to Gryffindor House any longer. 4. Unless he changed his mind on the train, Al feared being assigned to Slytherin House. Therefore, he would not be mirroring Sirius. Neither of them wanted to by in Slytherin, so the agent of change would be the Sorting Hat, no Albus Severus Potter. 5. If Al did change his mind and chose Slytherin -- as some suggest he might have made fast friends with Scorpius Malfoy -- he would have been merely breaking with Potter family tradition. Of course, we don't know for a fact about Weasley family tradition, since Al is also the son of Ginny Weasley, another valiant Gryffindor from an all-Gryffingor family (at least in modern generations). Perhaps Victoire or any other of Al's cousins could have been in Slytherin House. Certainly Fleur's child might fit in!! LOL!! I really couldn't care less what house Al Potter belonged to at Hogwarts. One could, after all, argue that he went into no house at Hogwarts, because he is a fictional character whose last time on the written page (at least JKR's written page) is on the Hogwarts Express as Harry is waving good-bye. This post has been edited by MysteryloverAnne: Jul 9 2009, 09:18 PM -------------------- My Harry/Ginny and Hermione/Ron fan fiction is in the restricted section of Simply Undeniable.com!
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Jul 8 2009, 05:02 AM
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Leaky Lounge Over Achiever  Posts: 9,324 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Tom Bombadil @ Jul 8 2009, 06:43 AM) 5. If Al did change his mind and chose Slytherin -- as some suggest he might have made fast friends with Scorpius Malfoy -- he would have been merely breaking with Potter family tradition. Of course, we don't know for a fact about Weasley family tradition, since Al is also the son of Ginny Weasley, another valiant Gryffindor from an all-Gryffingor family (at least in modern generations). Perhaps Victoire or any other of Al's cousins could have been in Slytherin House. Certainly Fleur's child might fit in!! LOL!! There could be some other houses in the new Weasley generation, but there are less likely to be any Slytherins as if there were, Harry could use them as a positive example (along the lines of "Look at Victoire, she is in Slytherin but she is still a nice person").
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Jul 8 2009, 10:58 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 594 Joined: 10:05pm August 1, 2007 Location: Having a Butterbeer at the Three Broomsticks |
He'd be in Gryffindor just like Harry, no question.
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Jul 28 2009, 03:44 PM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 29 Joined: 10:21am January 21, 2008 |
I started this topic months ago but I just had a few more thoughts. Yes, I agree that Albus would have asked the Sorting Hat for something other than Slytherin.
In the SS movie, when Ron is being sorted, the Hat says, "Ha! Another Weasley! I know just what to do with you! Gryffindor!" From this it seems that the Hat remembers which families have been put where. If Albus has a similar experience, he would go to Gryffindor, just like Harry, Ginny, and his brother. As far as Albus' personality, he seems similar to Ginny with his sensitivities. James seems like a practical joker and possibly a rule breaker. Kind of Fred and George-ish. Anyone agree? |
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Nov 12 2009, 07:50 PM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 200 Joined: 12:30pm March 20, 2009 Location: Norway |
QUOTE(potterlover18 @ Jul 28 2009, 09:44 PM) I started this topic months ago but I just had a few more thoughts. Yes, I agree that Albus would have asked the Sorting Hat for something other than Slytherin. In the SS movie, when Ron is being sorted, the Hat says, "Ha! Another Weasley! I know just what to do with you! Gryffindor!" From this it seems that the Hat remembers which families have been put where. If Albus has a similar experience, he would go to Gryffindor, just like Harry, Ginny, and his brother. As far as Albus' personality, he seems similar to Ginny with his sensitivities. James seems like a practical joker and possibly a rule breaker. Kind of Fred and George-ish. Anyone agree? I think Albus ended up in Gryffindor. Because he was terrified about ending up in Slytherin, I'm sure he asked the Sorting Hat for something other than that. And he's part Weasley. He may not have the red hair and what not, but he's still a Weasley, and where do Weasleys end up? I don't think Slytherin would've changed too much anyways. A lot of the kids sorted into that house were just mean bullies, and I don't think that changed. I definitly agree with you on James. I think he's very much like Fred and George, and it seems he tends to interrupt people when he's not supposed to, so we see a bit of Ron in him as well. I guess he just got a lot of the Weasley genes when it comes to personality. ;P -------------------- |
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