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Bellatrix Loves Severus?, Subtle Hints at Unrequited Love?
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post Nov 16 2008, 01:34 AM
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Did anyone else glean from the Spinner's End chapter that Bellatrix may have a crush on Severus, or at least may have pursued him in the past (before she met her husband, perhaps)?

I'd actually forgotten about this, but my very first impression when I read that chapter was, "Hey, is there somethin' goin' on between these two?"

It's hard to pinpoint exactly, but something about the way Snape taunts Bella, and the way she responds to it, suggested to me that Bellatrix had tried to seduce Severus at some point in the past, and that Severus was never going to let her forget it. For example:

1) He stood back to allow [Narcissa] to pass him into the house. Her still-hooded sister followed without invitation.

"Snape," she said curtly as she passed him.

"Bellatrix," he replied, his thin mouth curling into an almost mocking smile as he closed the door with a snap behind them.

2) ...Bellatrix said nothing, but continued to glower at Snape. This did not seem to discompose him; on the contrary, he looked rather amused.

3) How vehemently Bellatrix expresses her distrust of Severus, and the fact that no real reason for it is provided. Is she so bound-and-determined not to trust him partly because she's still seething over the fact that he rebuffed her advances in the past?

I'm very much looking forward to hearing other people's opinions on this.

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DO you know what, after reading this title I was like, " No way" but then when I read the evidence I think it could be possible. Why else would Snape be so smug and mocking towards Bella ?

I think its possible that Bellatrix had something like a crush on Snape and Snape didn't return the feels, as he was still in love will Lily.

Good theiry, I think its defenatly possible.


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very interesting question, I don't claim to have the slightest insight to complex labyrinth that is the female mind....but approching this from a male point of view, I feel the animosity between them was for two main reasons:

1: She did not trust him, and when you feel someone has the power to put both you and more so your family in danger, your going to approach them in a guarded manner.

2: She very much viewed her statues within the DE (as one of "you know who's" favourite) threaten by Severus as he know all to will based on his comments about her having gone to azkaban.

That said, many the times I was punched in the playground by a girl only to find out year later she liked me.


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At first, i was going to come here and say 'No Way!!!! It was Snape/ Narcissa!' But then i see your point there and i think it could be possible. They seem like they have some history. Haha this sounds fun to imagine Bellatrix makes a move on Sev.


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1) He stood back to allow [Narcissa] to pass him into the house. Her still-hooded sister followed without invitation.

"Snape," she said curtly as she passed him.

"Bellatrix," he replied, his thin mouth curling into an almost mocking smile as he closed the door with a snap behind them.

2) ...Bellatrix said nothing, but continued to glower at Snape. This did not seem to discompose him; on the contrary, he looked rather amused.

3) How vehemently Bellatrix expresses her distrust of Severus, and the fact that no real reason for it is provided. Is she so bound-and-determined not to trust him partly because she's still seething over the fact that he rebuffed her advances in the past?


I'm more inclinded to think that she it was Voldemort she was in love with. This was obvisiously something that wouldnt be returned to her so she would feel jealous of anyone else who Voldemort took notice of. She had to compete with Snape to be top ranking to LV. This i think Snape all knew, and new her behaviour towards him was a result of a sense of jeaousy.
Add this to the fact that Snape probably knew how much she didnt want to be at Spinners end, knew how much this must be killing her inside to go against her precious Dark Lord.


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QUOTE(crucio_uk @ Nov 16 2008, 07:39 AM) *
2: She very much viewed her statues within the DE (as one of "you know who's" favourite) threaten by Severus as he know all to will based on his comments about her having gone to azkaban.


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I'm more inclinded to think that she it was Voldemort she was in love with. This was obvisiously something that wouldnt be returned to her so she would feel jealous of anyone else who Voldemort took notice of. She had to compete with Snape to be top ranking to LV. This i think Snape all knew, and new her behaviour towards him was a result of a sense of jeaousy.


Yeah, since Snape is now Voldemort's right-hand man -- literally (at the table in Malfoy Manor in The Dark Lord Ascending Chapter), Bella would be way jealous, because she is truly obsessed with Voldemort, in a lustful way. So I don't think the pass she made at him would have been major -- maybe even resulting from her just having one too many shots of firewhisky one night. Hence, my topic title is erroneous, as I now realize. I should have called it, "Bellatrix Once Had A Slight Crush On Snape?" But that would have been considerably less attention-grabbing. Anyway, I imagine her always having a fondness for little Snape during the brief period they were at school together (if they were at school together at all -- has the confusion over that particular aspect of the timeline been cleared up?), and then later on during their early Death Eater days, she thinks she can have him because she still thinks of him as Little Snape. Obviously, this is just pure speculation on my part (hence the word "imagine").

I realize I have no evidence, save his "mocking smile," and looking amused as she glowers at him -- and even those two teeny tiny examples hardly qualify as proof (they could just be Snape being Snape). But I still just can't shake the feeling. Or maybe I just don't want to shake the feeling, because it's so much fun to imagine it.

Linnea


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well Mrs_Linnea_Snape, I just phoned Sigmund Freud and he says you got a classic case of Psychological projection, and it is you who has the Slight Crush On Snape ;)


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I think that they loath eachother. I always thought that Bellatrix was in love with Voldemort. I also think that Voldemort had a thing for her as well. I am not sure what, but the way he reacted to hearing about her death makes me think so. His screaming and then going after Molly.


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Sorry but i dont think there was anything but dislike between them. It would of been good had they had some past though it would really stir things up.
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QUOTE(ChelseyFitz @ Nov 21 2008, 09:31 AM) *
I think that they loath eachother. I always thought that Bellatrix was in love with Voldemort. I also think that Voldemort had a thing for her as well. I am not sure what, but the way he reacted to hearing about her death makes me think so. His screaming and then going after Molly.

I wouldn't be inclinded to think Voldemort felt for Bellatrix the same she felt for him. I think that scream was just the realisation that he just lost a loyal follower who shared his views and would without question carry out his orders. Voldemort was qute sure he was winning that war, he would have needed someone to do this dirty work afterwards and since he already, cold-bloodedly, killed Snape who was his right hand man, he knew losing Bellatrix was a spanner in the works, so to speak.


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