The Biggest Unanswered Questions...part 2, Start here with all of your questions |
 Jun 17 2008, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Laura W @ Jun 17 2008, 12:10 PM)  "Also remember Harry had that piece of soul within him. Could only Voldy hit him with the AK, to get rid of it?" Apparently. From Chapter 33 of DH - (SS): "So the boy ... the boy must die?" (DD): "And Voldemort himself must do it, Severus. That is essential." Yes, I think it was essential for LV to cast the AK on Harry to rid Harry of the seventh piece of LV's soul because of the way LV had regenerated his body. He used Harry's blood so Lilly's sacrificial protection still active through LV enabled Harry not to die. Otherwise how do you detach the piece of LV's soul from Harry without killing him? After that piece of soul and the Nagini horcrux were destroyed anyone could have AK'd LV and finished him. This post has been edited by onespeedonly: Jun 17 2008, 12:29 PM -------------------- Lion's Friend
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Jun 17 2008, 01:15 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 600 Joined: 6:25am December 9, 2007 Location: Canada |
I'm not so sure that only LV killing Harry could get rid of the soul bit. I think that whoever had AK'd Harry would have killed him and all that was in him. That is why Dumbledore said, in HBP, that it is risky to use a living being as a Horcrux. After all, when Neville killed Nagini he also destroyed Voldemort's soul bit in her. It wasn't necessary for Tom to kill the snake for his soul piece in her to be destroyed.
The reason, as onespeedonly pointed out, that it was imperative for Voldemort to be the one to "kill" Harry was because of their blood tie (Lily's blood) which would tether Harry to life as long as LV was alive. The AK spell would kill anything in Harry that was not Harry (ie - that foreign piece of soul); and the blood that Tom took from Harry and put into his own veins would act as Lily's protection and keep Harry himself from dying. LW This post has been edited by Laura W: Jun 17 2008, 01:57 PM |
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Jun 17 2008, 03:14 PM
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Perusing the Magical Menagerie Posts: 87 Joined: 11:00pm June 5, 2007 Location: PA |
QUOTE(Laura W @ Jun 17 2008, 02:15 PM) I'm not so sure that only LV killing Harry could get rid of the soul bit. I think that whoever had AK'd Harry would have killed him and all that was in him. I agree with you, LW, that if Harry were killed by anyone by any means the soul piece would be destroyed. I should have made it clear that I meant it had to be LV's AK for Harry to survive the destruction of the soul piece. -------------------- Lion's Friend
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Jun 18 2008, 04:58 AM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 600 Joined: 6:25am December 9, 2007 Location: Canada |
No, you got it right in your last post. And you explained it just fine there. I should have made it clear that my post #12 was referring to Lord Montymort's statement, "Also remember Harry had that piece of soul within him. Could only Voldy hit him with the AK, to get rid of it?". I was not disagreeing with you, onespeedonly - quite the contrary -, nor was your explanation in the least unclear. I was just, in trying to help(?) answer this unanswered question, elaborating upon your point. (Big Grin)
Laura ... and people say these are simple, uncomplicated children's stories (HA!) This post has been edited by Laura W: Jun 18 2008, 05:04 AM |
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Jun 18 2008, 09:00 AM
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Perusing the Magical Menagerie Posts: 87 Joined: 11:00pm June 5, 2007 Location: PA |
Thanks, Laura W. And your explanation of my comment is much more clear than mine. I'm sure it is quite helpful for those who have more trouble following Dumbledore's plan for Harry.
Nothing simple or uncomplicated about these stories. So many questions! No wonder it took her 17 years. As for them being children's stories, well, my kids will have to pry them out of my hands or buy their own when they are old enough! -------------------- Lion's Friend
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Jun 19 2008, 04:53 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 33 Joined: 11:18am May 15, 2008 |
first of all,my english wasn,t dat good that made me possible to overlook a few crucial points in hp book.
i just want to ask,,was the three hallows meaning the unbeatable wand,resurrection stone and invisibilty cloak got nothing to do with harry's survival apart from the protection of lily's blood?im sure there was sumthing but my friend merely rejected the idea,he said that harry continued to live just because the fact that lily's blood lingered in LV's body only.. or DDmeant for the hallows to become a weapon for harry to defeat voldy? |
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Jun 19 2008, 05:28 AM
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Owner of D's Favorite Avatar! Posts: 3,058 Joined: 10:59am June 8, 2005 Location: Exile on Main St |
Yes, Lily protection lingered in Voldy's body, so Harry was still protected from him. Also, Harry was the master of the Hallows, so he couldn't be killed by his own wand, which is the Elder Wand, which Voldy was using.
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Jun 22 2008, 02:11 PM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 23 Joined: 2:09am July 2, 2007 |
So, Deathly Hallows ended with info about what happened to Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, and etc after the war. BUT what happened to Luna?
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Jun 22 2008, 02:26 PM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 56 Joined: 12:11pm March 19, 2007 |
Luna married Rolf Scamander I think. He is a relative of Newt scamander
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Jun 22 2008, 05:20 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic  Posts: 9,192 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
She was also a magical zoologist, accepting that the crumple-horned snorkack didn't exist, but her open mind would lead her to find things that others didn't, and eventually had twin sons.
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