The Biggest Unanswered Questions...part 3, All questions...big and small...start here |
 Sep 22 2009, 04:01 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic  Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK   |
QUOTE(showbiz27 @ Sep 22 2009, 05:09 PM)  What happened when Harry Potter was "killed" and found himself at King's Cross Station, with no clothes...and Dumbledore? I think it is deliberately left somewhat ambiguous. It could all be Harry's dream, but I see it as the edge of the after life. Dumbledore implies that the location is chosen or even constructed by Harry, who would see King's Cross as a gateway between his life in the muggle world of the Dursleys, and the magical world of Hogwarts which is more exciting, more interesting, and more like a home, and thus a good represntation for him of the gateway between life and death. Dumbledore is there as a sort of guide, explaining the choice Harry has - to go on to the afterlife or return to ordinary life to finish the task of defeating Voldemort - and also to help Harry to understand the choice Harry has to make.
I mean, it's never really said exactly what happened there. There was a lot of implied stuff though. --------------------  W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Sep 26 2009, 06:30 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 4 Joined: 2:24am August 14, 2009 |
Hi. :) I have a question ..
In book five: "The Woes of Mrs. Weasley", Fred and George mention that there's obviously been assigned a new DADA teacher, and say that it's about time too. They also say that it isn't surprising that Dumbledore's had trouble finding a new teacher, considering what's happened to the four previous ones. But what about the DADA teachers before that? They'd already been going to Hogwarts for two years before Quirrel showed up, and if the DADA curse has been there ever since Voldemort was denied the jobbed, shouldn't they have mentioned them too? Those teachers won't have been there any longer than a year each either. Or am I missing something? Hope someone has an answer. :) - Lisbry |
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Sep 26 2009, 07:32 AM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Lisbry @ Sep 26 2009, 12:30 PM) But what about the DADA teachers before that? They'd already been going to Hogwarts for two years before Quirrel showed up, and if the DADA curse has been there ever since Voldemort was denied the jobbed, shouldn't they have mentioned them too? Those teachers won't have been there any longer than a year each either. Or am I missing something? Hope someone has an answer. I am guessing that the DADA teachers prior to that did only last one year, but their reasons for not doing a second year weren't so dramatic so it didn't deter applicants so much.
 -------------------- W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Sep 26 2009, 12:13 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer  Posts: 896 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy  |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Sep 26 2009, 08:32 AM) QUOTE(Lisbry @ Sep 26 2009, 12:30 PM) But what about the DADA teachers before that? They'd already been going to Hogwarts for two years before Quirrel showed up, and if the DADA curse has been there ever since Voldemort was denied the jobbed, shouldn't they have mentioned them too? Those teachers won't have been there any longer than a year each either. Or am I missing something? Hope someone has an answer. I am guessing that the DADA teachers prior to that did only last one year, but their reasons for not doing a second year weren't so dramatic so it didn't deter applicants so much.I agree. The DADA post was always cursed since Voldemort was denied the job, but it only became such a problem when Harry was old enough to go to Hogwarts. I assume the previous teachers just left for quite trivial reasons, compared to those of the teachers of Harry's era. -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Sep 26 2009, 06:18 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 4 Joined: 2:24am August 14, 2009 |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Sep 26 2009, 07:32 AM) QUOTE(Lisbry @ Sep 26 2009, 12:30 PM) But what about the DADA teachers before that? They'd already been going to Hogwarts for two years before Quirrel showed up, and if the DADA curse has been there ever since Voldemort was denied the jobbed, shouldn't they have mentioned them too? Those teachers won't have been there any longer than a year each either. Or am I missing something? Hope someone has an answer. I am guessing that the DADA teachers prior to that did only last one year, but their reasons for not doing a second year weren't so dramatic so it didn't deter applicants so much.Yeah, I thought about that too - it just seemed strange that no-one would really notice it that much. I mean Umbridge also says later in the book to the fith-years that they're education had been patchy because of them switching teachers so often, but that wouldn't of been unusual if it happened every year. I mean all the previous students had done just fine in DADA, and they'd have been in the same circumstance, if not quite as a dramatic one. And wouldn't it strike applicants strange that Dumbledore had to put out a new ad every year – even if the teachers were leaving for trivial reasons. I would of thought it would've scared of applicants long before Harry's years at school, as obviously there's something wrong with that post. |
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Sep 26 2009, 06:34 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Lisbry @ Sep 27 2009, 12:18 AM) And wouldn't it strike applicants strange that Dumbledore had to put out a new ad every year – even if the teachers were leaving for trivial reasons. I would of thought it would've scared of applicants long before Harry's years at school, as obviously there's something wrong with that post. They might see it as strange but not necessarily worrying. If the reasons for previous teachers leaving were trivial or even positive (eg. someone doing DADA for a year before transferring to a subject they liked better) then it wouldn't deter applicants. It is only really once bad things started to happen that potential applicants would start to worry.As to the quality of teaching, someone good at their job (like Lupin) would give enough information to enable the following teacher to continue on without disruption. -------------------- W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Sep 27 2009, 04:36 PM
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In Charge of Invisible Books of Invisibility Posts: 1,160 Joined: 9:01pm July 25, 2005 Location: in a little house in DeSmet, South Dakota |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Sep 27 2009, 01:34 AM) They might see it as strange but not necessarily worrying. If the reasons for previous teachers leaving were trivial or even positive (eg. someone doing DADA for a year before transferring to a subject they liked better) then it wouldn't deter applicants. It is only really once bad things started to happen that potential applicants would start to worry. As to the quality of teaching, someone good at their job (like Lupin) would give enough information to enable the following teacher to continue on without disruption. If that were the case (that the DADA teachers preferred another subject so switched to their favourite after a year) then why didn't Snape who really wanted the DADA job get it sooner? (I know it has a reason for the plot - but it would be odd from an outsider's point of view.) Also, there aren't enough subjects at Hogwarts for frequent subject switching. A lot of teachers we know have been teaching their subject for years (Snape, Trelawney, McGonagall). And as Hogwarts is the only wizarding school in the UK it's not as if they can easily teach elsewhere. -------------------- ~~Proud member of the Ingalwings Society~~
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Sep 27 2009, 05:57 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(ingalls @ Sep 27 2009, 10:36 PM) If that were the case (that the DADA teachers preferred another subject so switched to their favourite after a year) then why didn't Snape who really wanted the DADA job get it sooner? (I know it has a reason for the plot - but it would be odd from an outsider's point of view.) I wasn't suggesting that this was the case for all the previous DADA teachers, but it might be the case for one or two. Also Dumbledore wouldn't switch Snape to DADA where he was only likely to last one year until there were good reasons why he might not be doing the job the following year. I also think the earlier stated reason, that Dumbledore thought that Snape might be tempted back to dark ways if he taught DADA has some merit.
-------------------- W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Sep 27 2009, 06:06 PM
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In Charge of Invisible Books of Invisibility Posts: 1,160 Joined: 9:01pm July 25, 2005 Location: in a little house in DeSmet, South Dakota |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Sep 28 2009, 12:57 AM) QUOTE(ingalls @ Sep 27 2009, 10:36 PM) If that were the case (that the DADA teachers preferred another subject so switched to their favourite after a year) then why didn't Snape who really wanted the DADA job get it sooner? (I know it has a reason for the plot - but it would be odd from an outsider's point of view.) Also Dumbledore wouldn't switch Snape to DADA where he was only likely to last one year until there were good reasons why he might not be doing the job the following year. I also think the earlier stated reason, that Dumbledore thought that Snape might be tempted back to dark ways if he taught DADA has some merit.I know, but others than DD would wonder. I don't think the job being cursed would go unnoticed for so many years. -------------------- ~~Proud member of the Ingalwings Society~~
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Sep 28 2009, 03:27 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(ingalls @ Sep 28 2009, 12:06 AM) I don't think the job being cursed would go unnoticed for so many years. I wasn't suggesting that the curse did go completely unnoticed, rather that the seeming coincidence that no-one seemed to last very long in the DADA job didn't deter all applicants until Quirrell dided while doing the job.
-------------------- W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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