QUOTE(Expelliarmas @ Oct 13 2009, 07:44 PM)

Grindewald occurred many years before the Voldemort/Harry saga. You would think Dumbledore would have gotten over it already. Grindewald did not betray Dumbledore's trust. Dumbledore himself chose not to see Grindewald as he was because he thought he and Grindewald would be the young guns who changed the world for the greater good. Dumbledore turned a blind and delusional eye to Grindewald's inate cruelty in the headlong pursuit of their own grand plant. It was only Arianna's death which awoke in Dumbledore a self-awareness of the love of power.
I guess that I was thinking that Dumbledore might have generalized this more, as if he were thinking, The last time I trusted someone enough to unite my ideas with theirs, my ideas got corrupted. Even if it was his own delusion that led to this, he may have concluded that collaboration in general did not work very well for him. Then again, Dumbledore might not think that way....
QUOTE(Expelliarmas @ Oct 13 2009, 07:44 PM)

The secrecy tendency, however, was with Dumbledore all his life. We learn this in DH when the old geezer who thinks himself Dumbledore's closest friend says that not a lot was known about Dumbledore or his family. Dumbledore never chose to confide in any one while he was a student at Hogwarts and he certainly didn't do it as a teacher. Aberforth tells us Dumbledore learned this trait from his mother, Kendra.
Ah yes, the "secrets and lies"; good point. I got the impression that this was all about the 'family secrets' though, everything regarding Arianna (which would need to include his mother's secluded life, his father's imprisonment, his estrangement from Aberforth, and his friendship with Grindelwald), and not necessarily about anything else. Dumbledore had loads of emotional baggage connected with these events, so I can see why he would keep them secret. But that doesn't quite translate to me why he couldn't share any of his strategies for defeating Voldemort with others. That does seem to be what Aberforth (who also keeps all of these secrets) is implying, though.
QUOTE(Expelliarmas @ Oct 13 2009, 07:44 PM)

I don't know that Dumbledore wanted Sirius dead or not. Had Harry insisted on living with Sirius during the holidays, this could have been arranged. Remember, Harry only had to be able to call #4 Privet Drive "home" and return there once per year to re-engage the charm....
I'm not sure that I can say for sure that Dumbledore wanted Sirius dead, just that it would be easier for him if he were out of the way, such that it would not be worth it for him to put forth much effort into keeping him alive. It certainly wasn't an easy task for Dumbledore to instantly figure out the implications of the failed attempt on Harry's life, what it meant in regards to the prophecy, and how Harry should live his life in order to achieve the best outcome. So part of Dumbledore might have been thinking, Since I believe the best way to keep Harry safe from Voldemort is to have him live with his Aunt, it works out well that his headstrong godfather happens to be out of the picture. Having this thought in the back of his head could have overridden any doubt that Dumbledore may have had of Sirius' guilt, and wiped out any motivation he might have had to seek the truth about the matter. I don't think that he knew for sure that Sirius was innocent and purposely left in him Azkaban hoping he'd die. I just think that it was convenient for him and his plans for Harry to have Sirius out of the way. In other circumstances where it appeared that Sirius' life could be in danger, I think that Dumbledore was content to just see how they played out. I don't think he would have purposely done something to bring about Sirius' death.
QUOTE(Expelliarmas @ Oct 13 2009, 07:44 PM)

...Sirius would not have been happy about Harry having to walk into the forest as a sacrificial lamb, but he would have accepted that this was Harry's choice to make. Sirius would have also thought James would have made the sacrifice and he would have known Lily would make such a sacrifice given that she gave her life for Harry....
I'm not sure that Dumbledore trusted Sirius enough to think that he would come to this conclusion. I know that he did not trust him enough (perhaps rightly so) to allow him even the slightest amount of freedom in OotP, even though the grand assembly of wizarding knowledge assembled in the Order could certainly have come up with some way to keep him safe and undetected for brief periods of time. I think it is possible that Dumbledore just didn't want to take the risk that Sirius would do something to make his plans with Harry more difficult. There was certainly a lot at stake, and as Sirius_Craic mentioned, Sirius might just have been a victim for 'the greater good'.
QUOTE(Sirius_Craic @ Oct 13 2009, 05:20 PM)

Who do you think holds the most blame for Sirius's death? Voldemort? Harry? Dumbledore? Kreacher? Bellatrix?
....Over all I think it was a mixture of all off the above. Some more than others, Harry the least, that damn veil the most!
Yeah..... How come no Accio Sirius! if it took Sirius "an age to fall"? Someone stop that stinkin' veil from takin' 'im!