Corner Booth P3 Text Chat Transcript 9-17-06, Hogwart's role in book 7 |
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Today's text chat was moderated by SoonerGryffindor, Expelliarmus, Aislinn, futureweasley, and Theoriser
[14:04] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [14:04] *** Topic is: Hogwart's Role in Book 7 [14:04] *** Topic set by futureweasley [Sun Apr 9 13:10:46 2006] [14:04] <fawkes28> there definitely needs to be more time in a day smile [14:04] <harryfreak359> yeah [14:04] <Spown> hi sooner [14:04] <velvet_fireball> hi sooner [14:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hello [14:04] <fawkes28> hey sooner [14:04] <harryfreak359> Sooner!! [14:04] <halfakneazle> hi! [14:04] <JaneMarple9> great echo there biggrin [14:04] <futureweasley> welcome, SoonerGryffindor! [14:04] <harryfreak359> hi!!! [14:05] <JaneMarple9> Hi Sooner [14:05] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [14:05] <SoonerGryffindor> hello everyone [14:05] <fawkes28> hi pleshette [14:05] <harryfreak359> hi pleshette! [14:05] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette! [14:05] * SoonerGryffindor pants while running late into the room [14:05] <Pleshette> Hi everyone! [14:05] <JaneMarple9> oh yes Fawkes...even two or three extra hours in the day to have more fun! [14:05] <harryfreak359> lol, I am all for that [14:06] <fawkes28> lol while you guys have to take tests i need to make them up smile [14:06] <JaneMarple9> hi Pleshette [14:06] <fawkes28> it can be just as difficult [14:06] <Pleshette> Hi Jane! [14:06] * Fatalmoon feels old -.- [14:06] <harryfreak359> or we should be able to pause time while in the corner booth [14:06] <halfakneazle> lol [14:06] <fawkes28> seriously [14:06] <harryfreak359> so we can have fun here, and then not lose any time for our work [14:06] <Pleshette> I'm right there with you fatalmoon ;) [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> me three [14:09] <velvet_fireball> hmm, that could be an interesting discussion one day. can you pause time with a time turner? [14:09] <futureweasley> this b-day was my introduction to "old" [14:09] <Fatalmoon> Agree with you there, Fawkes ;) Taught English for a year in Japan...making tests up is rather...intriguing. [14:09] <JaneMarple9> me four smile [14:09] <harryfreak359> oh, future...you're not old [14:09] * Aislinn snorts at FW's idea of old [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> I have 10 plus years on you future [14:09] <fawkes28> and teaching lessons...sometimes i have to go back and teach myself again [14:09] <Pleshette> Lol future! [14:09] * SoonerGryffindor snorts along with Aislinn [14:10] <fawkes28> they always come up with new ways for us to teach [14:10] <JaneMarple9> old as you feel smile [14:10] <futureweasley> velvet, go to the Cauldron Corner and suggest that in one of the threads in the Corner Booth forum...that's an excellent idea [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> now I really am worried [14:10] <Fatalmoon> As I was always told, you can't be expected to know the answer to everything...just the answer to everything in that particular lesson ;) [14:10] <Pleshette> LOL! Yeah, my back's aching right now from preparing an apple pie! [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fatalmoon [14:10] <Aislinn> that's the key fatal smile [14:10] <fawkes28> hehe fatalmoon, if i dont know an answer i tell them to look it up on the internet [14:10] <Spown> so, how was your week guys? [14:11] <Spown> busy? fun? boring? [14:11] <velvet_fireball> i think i'll do that, thanks future smile i'm still quite new to this. [14:11] <fawkes28> or the dictionary [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> good, and yours Spown? [14:11] *** JSBulldog89 has joined #lounge [14:11] <JaneMarple9> great! [14:11] <Spown> ok [14:11] <harryfreak359> lol, my back hurts from being on the computer too long today and yesterday [14:11] <Aislinn> hi JS [14:11] <Spown> except my German teacher hates me [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> hey JS!! [14:11] <halfakneazle> hiya! [14:11] <JSBulldog89> Hey! smile [14:11] <JaneMarple9> smile and mine hf! [14:11] <futureweasley> hi JSBulldog! [14:11] <harryfreak359> lol [14:12] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [14:12] <futureweasley> my eyes hurt from being on the computer too long! [14:12] <futureweasley> James! [14:12] <halfakneazle> hi jrg [14:12] <Jrg1990> hey everyone. [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I would just like to give a big thank you to Aislinn for all of the hard work she did yesterday here [14:12] * futureweasley hugs the snot out of James [14:12] <harryfreak359> hehe...I am always on the computer... [14:12] <halfakneazle> yay Aislinn! [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> hey James! [14:12] <Pleshette> The Corner Booth rocked yesterday! [14:12] <halfakneazle> indeed it did [14:12] <fawkes28> yes it did! [14:12] <futureweasley> it was hopin', that's for sure!! [14:12] <JSBulldog89> I wasn't able to be here yesterday... only for ten minutes sigh [14:12] * Jrg1990 would ike to thank ALL the CB'ers for a most enjoyable day yesterday. [14:12] <harryfreak359> yeah Aislinn, we love you for all you did for us!!! [14:12] <futureweasley> *hoppin' [14:12] <Aislinn> A big thank you to everyone who worked here yesterday, as well as the folks who joined in to chat biggrin [14:12] <Jrg1990> he would like to as well LOL [14:13] <futureweasley> lol [14:13] <futureweasley> thanks for organizing...you and Andy rule [14:13] <SoonerGryffindor> dont sweat it JS, sometimes we cant be here when we want to for the events [14:13] <futureweasley> c'mon fawkes, one "_____" for Jrg1990?! [14:13] <Pleshette> I second tha future! [14:13] <fawkes28> fine go ahead [14:13] <halfakneazle> I third it! [14:13] <futureweasley> woot for James!! YAY! [14:14] * Expelliarmas wonders if Cho ever found her tissue or got a grip? [14:14] <JaneMarple9> yes it was a great organisation...how many times do we have them? When'a the next one roughly? [14:14] <fawkes28> is it out of your system now? [14:14] <Jrg1990> *takes a swift bow* smile [14:14] <Jrg1990> thanks yall [14:14] <futureweasley> and now, I will relax and stop abusing the privilege [14:14] <harryfreak359> lol expel [14:14] <fawkes28> i bet you all use it anyway when i am not here smile [14:14] <Aislinn> all the time fawkes smile [14:15] <halfakneazle> lol we do [14:15] <futureweasley> every chance I get [14:15] <futureweasley> lol [14:15] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [14:15] <fawkes28> oh darn...i'm here today (sorry guys!) [14:15] <fawkes28>  [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Mr MCG [14:15] <JSBulldog89> Minerva's married? [14:15] <MrMcGonagall> Howdy, y'all! [14:15] <futureweasley> I'd rather you be there than not!! [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> lol JS [14:15] <halfakneazle> hi! [14:15] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [14:15] <Fatalmoon> To a yank no less! [14:15] <JaneMarple9> Hi MrMcGongall [14:15] <futureweasley> hi MrMcGonagall! [14:15] <fawkes28> awe [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome ravendor [14:15] <JaneMarple9> Hi Ravendor [14:15] <futureweasley> hi Ravendor! [14:16] <velvet_fireball> hi ravendor [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> okay guys, are we ready? [14:16] <harryfreak359> yeah [14:16] <Expelliarmas> yep [14:16] <MrMcGonagall> You bet! [14:16] <halfakneazle> yup! [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> !moderate [14:16] <Jrg1990> elets go for it. smile [14:16] <Jrg1990> lets* [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [14:18] <Expelliarmas> Hogwarts is an ancient and magical place, and has shown multiple times that it holds many secrets. We don't find out about the passageways out of the school until book three, the Chamber of Secrets stayed hidden for a thousand years, and we didn't discover the Room of Requirement properly until book five. For all we know, there could be a million more rooms we don't know about yet. [14:18] <Expelliarmas> To start with, which room do you think will turn out to play the biggest role in book 7? [14:18] <Spown> i'm guessing DD's office would play a big part in book 7 [14:18] <Val_Halla> The Headmaster's Office [14:19] <MrMcGonagall> Room of Requirement, I think. [14:19] <futureweasley> probably Dumbledore's office [14:19] <fawkes28> i think the room of requirement [14:19] <JaneMarple9> I think the room of requirement will be the most important [14:19] <Spown> i am not sure why but it makes sence [14:19] <Jrg1990> Headmaster Office, and the RoR. [14:19] <futureweasley> maybe Snape's old office [14:19] <JaneMarple9> echo fawkesbiggrin [14:19] <Fatalmoon> That's supposing Hogwarts plays a role at all in the book. But, assuming it does, I imagine the Chamber of Secrets may hold something still yet. [14:19] <fawkes28> along with the headmaster's office [14:19] <velvet_fireball> yes, i'd say if i any the headmaster/ teacher's office [14:19] <harryfreak359> dumbledore's office and the Room of Requirement [14:19] <Expelliarmas> Why do you think the RoR or Dumbledore's Office will be important? [14:19] <harryfreak359> both I think are important [14:19] <Jrg1990> the pensieve is in the HO, and anything is in the RoR LOL [14:19] <Spown> the room of requirements has already fulfilled its purpose in the series [14:19] <harryfreak359> DD's office has his potrait [14:19] <Ravendor> true [14:19] <futureweasley> well, we have the "tiara" theory [14:19] <fawkes28> no i still think there is something further to explore in the RoR [14:20] <futureweasley> that would surely have to do with the RoR... [14:20] <JaneMarple9> and perhaps the mirror of erised will become importent in the room where it is [14:20] <halfakneazle> ditto fawkes [14:20] <harryfreak359> and there are lots of unkown things in the RoR [14:20] <fawkes28> true jane [14:20] <Spown> DD's office should hold lots of hidden secrets....after all gryffindor's sword is there, DDs portrait is there, etc [14:20] <futureweasley> and, the HBP book is still there [14:20] *** Jrg1990 has quit [Bye] [14:20] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [14:20] <harryfreak359> yeah, true FW [14:20] <Fatalmoon> Perhaps what Harry really needs is to find the last Horcrux...and a vital clue will be in the room of requirement? [14:20] <MrMcGonagall> It hink so. [14:20] <harryfreak359> maybe [14:20] <halfakneazle> maybe. [14:20] <Expelliarmas> I keep thinking the RoR will play a role, especially when you see all the things which were sotred there. [14:20] <Spown> ok, maybe the RoR would be used but only to get back the book [14:20] <Ravendor> possibly [14:20] <JaneMarple9> more to explore in room of requirement...right, with the tiara etc [14:20] <Jrg1990> peeves is still in my pc from yesterday seemingly LOL. [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> lol James [14:20] <Ravendor> lol, mine too [14:20] <Expelliarmas> *stored [14:21] <velvet_fireball> plus harry could summon up books of any topic in the RoR so could find out more about Horcruxes [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant decide between the headmasters office and the RoR [14:21] <Aislinn> Harry is probably going to go back for that book, and for information in DD's office [14:21] <futureweasley> the Pensieve is obviously vital to the plot...I think the RoR will be, too [14:21] <velvet_fireball> how they are made for example [14:21] <JaneMarple9> but perhaps Dumbledore's office may be important with all the potraits inside there? [14:21] <Pleshette> Yeah I agree Ais [14:21] <fawkes28> i mean think of all the things that have been placed in that room over the years [14:21] <Spown> could be, jane [14:21] <Pleshette> And the pensieve is there as well [14:21] <Ravendor> I agree, Jane [14:21] <Ravendor> yeah [14:22] <JaneMarple9> and of course the sword and the sorting hat [14:22] <Fatalmoon> I still believe the chamber of Secrets may hold something of import...it was Slytherin's chamber, after all. [14:22] <MrMcGonagall> DD's office will be important, but I think the RoR will have greater undiscovered significance. [14:22] <Pleshette> I think Harry may need that to retrieve memories [14:22] <Expelliarmas> Also, I've wondered about the instruments in DD's office and their usefulness [14:22] <futureweasley> JKR has gone out of her way to let us know that the Portraits will not be as important as what we thought they would originally [14:22] <halfakneazle> yeah. [14:22] <Spown> wait, is the pensieve really there? Didn't they show it in the memorial service for DD? [14:22] <fawkes28> yes, expel he owned interesting instruments [14:22] <Jrg1990> the pensieve has served its purpose i think. Except perhaps for prrof on snape, i dont see how else it could be used. DD had no more memories on Tom that would help to figure the last horcruxes. [14:22] <Jrg1990> proof* [14:22] <Fatalmoon> Yes, FW. From what I gather, it's basically the personality of the person, not any knowledge, that is preserved. [14:22] <harryfreak359> yeah expel, some of those could be important [14:22] <JaneMarple9> yes the pensieve will be in book 7 I think [14:22] <futureweasley> stating that they, over time, start "mimicing" catch phrases that the person would have likely said [14:23] <Aislinn> when did she say that FW? [14:23] <harryfreak359> I think so too Jane [14:23] <futureweasley> right fatalmoom [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, when did she say they would not vbe as important? [14:23] <Pleshette> I'm thinking that maybe Harry will use it to retrieve memories of GH [14:23] <Expelliarmas> well, some of the portraits in DD's office have been there quite a while and they were somewhat lucid [14:23] <futureweasley> Aislinn, I will find it for you sometime...it was in an interview [14:23] <futureweasley> maybe the Memerson interview?! [14:23] <fawkes28> i agree pleshette i still think there are memories to explore [14:23] <Aislinn> that wasn't the impression I got from the interview, if I am thinking of the same quote [14:23] <Jrg1990> dont think so FW, but i do remember reading it. [14:23] <Jrg1990> i think... [14:23] <Fatalmoon> They don't actually provide information from their time..only current information used by travelling between portraits. [14:24] <halfakneazle> I wonder what happened to the penseive after dd died... [14:24] <MrMcGonagall> I do remember Jo saying (I think the Memerson interview, or perhaps on her website FAQ) that the portraits are of rather limited use. [14:24] <Aislinn> I think that he will get some vital information from DD's portrait [14:24] * harryfreak359 should read more interviews [14:24] <Expelliarmas> I also wonder about DD's memories, were they stored in his office? [14:24] <MrMcGonagall> Of some use, but limited. [14:24] <fawkes28> i think he will give it to harry in a type of will [14:24] <Ravendor> I've thought that too, fawkes [14:24] <harryfreak359> I think that those memories will be very important] [14:24] <Fatalmoon> That may show us what happened with Snape and why Dumbledore trusted him so completely. [14:24] <halfakneazle> yeah... [14:24] <futureweasley> yes, fawkes, I agree [14:24] <Pleshette> yes [14:24] <Val_Halla> I sure hope so fatalmoon [14:24] <fawkes28> yes fatalmoon [14:24] <harryfreak359> maybe it'll show what side Snape really is [14:24] <Ravendor> maybe [14:24] <harryfreak359> whoaaa.....laggggg [14:25] <Spown> hmm, that would be too easy though [14:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I still really wonder about the silver instruments [14:25] <Ravendor> yeah, me too [14:25] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [14:25] <halfakneazle> me too sooner [14:25] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [14:25] <Val_Halla> me to sg [14:25] <futureweasley> which leads me to wonder if DD had residence outside of Hogwarts...and if more "vital" tools will be found there [14:25] <Aislinn> hi theoriser [14:25] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [14:25] <futureweasley> hi theoriser [14:25] <Fatalmoon> So, room of requirement for missing pieces...and dumbledore's office for the pensieve and his portrait. Anywhere else? [14:25] <Theoriser> hi everyone [14:25] <Pleshette> Hi theoriser [14:25] <Ravendor> hey, theoriser [14:25] <MrMcGonagall> the instrumetnts . . .Dumbledore's litte hobby! [14:25] <Val_Halla> I never thought of that fw [14:25] <harryfreak359> hi theoriser [14:25] <JaneMarple9> Hi Theoriser [14:25] <Expelliarmas> I don't think DD lived outside Hogwarts [14:25] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Theoriser [14:25] <fawkes28> there was that one instrument which seemed to confirm harry's story of mr. weasley i wonder if we will see that again [14:25] <Expelliarmas> Are there any more secret passageways out of the school to be discovered? [14:25] <Jrg1990> hi theoriser, well done on the hat competition smile [14:25] <harryfreak359> hmm maybe fawkes [14:26] <harryfreak359> I think so! [14:26] <SoonerGryffindor> good question [14:26] <Spown> not "out" of the school [14:26] <MrMcGonagall> I wonder if we'll find out anything about the collapsed 4th floor passage. [14:26] <Aislinn> it does seem that we have heard about those instruments a lot, not to learn more about what they do [14:26] <JaneMarple9> I should say lots and lots [14:26] *** Jrg1990 has quit [Bye] [14:26] <halfakneazle> definately [14:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder what the mauraders map may have to say about that [14:26] <Pleshette> Perhaps from the Chamber [14:26] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [14:26] <Fatalmoon> I'm sure they're always possible, but I do believe the Marauder's found them all. Fred and George was never able to add onto it [14:26] <harryfreak359> that is one big castle, there has to be other stuff in ti [14:26] <Theoriser> thanks james smile [14:26] <Aislinn> I think that what will be vital is not discovering ways out, but rather, ways IN, using those passageways [14:26] <fawkes28> maybe more passageways in the school i dont know about out of it though [14:26] <Theoriser> I think we'll see the honeydukes passage again [14:26] <JaneMarple9> I think from the Chamber of Secrets too...to link the series together [14:26] <halfakneazle> yeah there must be stuff in the castle that's not on the map [14:26] <Pleshette> How did the basilisk get there in the first place? [14:26] <Jrg1990> i dont think there are any new ones, but i thnk we'll find out whats in the caved in one. [14:26] <futureweasley> well, the Vanishing Cabinet was sort of a "secret passageway" of its own... [14:26] <Spown> I think the CoS would play a main role in book 7.... just because it's the one thing originally made by Slytherin [14:27] <futureweasley> I wonder if that will come into play again? [14:27] <harryfreak359> It might have been hatched there pleshette [14:27] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point about the vanishing cabinet FW [14:27] <MrMcGonagall> Big question: Do Voldemort and the DE's know about the passageways? [14:27] <Spown> expecially because it's called Chamber of SECRETS [14:27] <harryfreak359> probably not [14:27] <JSBulldog89> I'm not sure if the rooms in Hogwarts will play an important role or not, is Harry even going back to school? (for studying purposes) [14:27] <Spown> not Chamber of SNAKE-LIKE MONSTER [14:27] <futureweasley> ooh, MrMcG, I don't think they do [14:27] <halfakneazle> I bet they do know about some of them [14:27] <harryfreak359> voldemort isn't that smart [14:27] <Fatalmoon> There may be passages that are accessible only if you meet certain criteria, a lot like the CoS and the RoR. [14:27] <halfakneazle> they did go there, after all [14:27] <JaneMarple9> oh the vanishing cabinet is going to be useful I think [14:27] <Expelliarmas> Yes, the map did not show the Chamber of Secrets, so it doesn't seem the Marauders or F/G discovered everything [14:27] <futureweasley> well, Filch only knows about, what, 3 or 4? [14:27] <SoonerGryffindor> well, Peter knows about them being a maurader [14:27] <MrMcGonagall> Malfoy certainly didn't or he could have used them. [14:28] <harryfreak359> to know every passage in that caslte [14:28] <SoonerGryffindor> so wouldnt he tell LV? [14:28] <futureweasley> and there are how many that the Marauders knew about? 7? [14:28] <Ravendor> true, Sooner [14:28] <halfakneazle> Wasn't Voldy something of a troublemaker too? [14:28] <Ravendor> yeah, something like that, future [14:28] <harryfreak359> do you think Peter really remembers? [14:28] <Aislinn> I think that there are places like the RoR and CoS that are unplottable, even with the map [14:28] <fawkes28> peter probably had time as a rat to explore many different passageways in the castle [14:28] <Jrg1990> the idea of a Chamber of SecretS always makes me think theres some other mystery down there. its not a secret, its secrets plural [14:28] <JaneMarple9> Ah d but did the Marauders know ALL of them? [14:28] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder if LV knows of some the mauraders didnt discover [14:28] <harryfreak359> I doubt his telling Lv something like that [14:28] <Spown> yes, good point aislinn [14:28] <futureweasley> right, James...I think that too [14:28] <Ravendor> yeah [14:28] <halfakneazle> me too [14:28] <Expelliarmas> LV at least knows about the COS and what's in it. [14:29] <fawkes28> LV did live there for 7 years...that's a lot of time [14:29] <MrMcGonagall> I have always wondered about the Vanishing Cabinet. Odd that it had a link to B&B's in the first place, isn't it? [14:29] <futureweasley> just because that's where the other one way [14:29] <harryfreak359> welll it could be linked to anywhere the other cabinet is right? [14:29] <futureweasley> move the cabinet out of B&B's the passage moves too [14:29] <halfakneazle> but is it a coincedence? [14:29] <MrMcGonagall> True - how long was the cabinet in B&B's? [14:29] <MrMcGonagall> I guess no way of knowing. [14:29] <Ravendor> I dont' know, seems suspicious [14:29] <Expelliarmas> What about the mysterious caved-in secret passageway that Fred and George mention in PoA? Will this be a factor in book 7? [14:29] <JaneMarple9> Surely Lord Voldemort doesn't know every little thing about Hogwarts? Would that be why he wanted to be a teacher there? [14:29] <Fatalmoon> How did one arrive in Hogwarts and the other in B&B's? [14:30] <harryfreak359> well why does a dark art store have a cabinet [14:30] <Val_Halla> Maybe LV used those ccabinets when he worked at B and B [14:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it might be [14:30] *** Islwyn13 has joined #lounge [14:30] <fawkes28> i guess it depends where it leads to [14:30] <Ravendor> maybe, Val [14:30] <MrMcGonagall> Val_Halla, that's my thought, too. [14:30] <Spown> no, I'm thinking it's still caved-in as ever [14:30] <Islwyn13> Heya, folks... [14:30] <futureweasley> since at LEAST book 2, MrMcG [14:30] <harryfreak359> hi Islwyn!! [14:30] <Islwyn13> be back in a sec smile [14:30] <Fatalmoon> I doubt it. Seeing as it's caved in and there are other ways to get into Hogwarts.. [14:30] <Ravendor> hey, Islwyn [14:30] <fawkes28> hey islwyn [14:30] <futureweasley> hi Islwyn [14:30] <velvet_fireball> it could do. if harry can find a way to un-block it [14:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I think there was a reason that was mentioned [14:30] <Aislinn> I think that the secret passageways are going to be really important for Harry [14:30] <halfakneazle> yeah, me too [14:30] <futureweasley> how did it get "blocked"? [14:30] <SoonerGryffindor> Mr McG? What do you think of it? [14:30] <harryfreak359> yeah me too sooner [14:31] <futureweasley> what's "blocking" it? [14:31] <fawkes28> maybe there is a horcurx in there smile [14:31] <Val_Halla> Fred and george used it to go to Hogsmeade [14:31] <Spown> but I think Harry might use the Honey-Dukes one to get IN the castle though [14:31] <JaneMarple9> I'm thinking the mysterious caved in tunnel is connected with the Chamber of Secrets [14:31] <MrMcGonagall> I think the passage must be blocked as a result of the cave-in near the CoS. [14:31] <harryfreak359> perhaps [14:31] <JaneMarple9> It might have caved in in book 2 [14:31] <halfakneazle> could be [14:31] <Spown> imagine-Hogwarts is overrun and HArry needs to get inside. That's why he uses the only available passage [14:31] <Ravendor> maybe [14:31] <MrMcGonagall> bingo, Jane! [14:31] <futureweasley> maybe LV "blocked" it when he came to visit DD that one time [14:31] <SoonerGryffindor> so it might be connected to the CoS? [14:31] <Expelliarmas> We don't know when it caved in or why, do we? [14:31] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think it was, originally, but maybe there's a connection now if you do a little digging. [14:32] <Fatalmoon> Or just run over where the CoS is. [14:32] <velvet_fireball> true, so he could find his own way in [14:32] <SoonerGryffindor> we dont know why [14:32] <JaneMarple9> Thats what seems "Muggle logical to me" [14:32] <SoonerGryffindor> yet [14:32] <Val_Halla> Fred and George used it until a year before they gave Harry the map [14:32] <MrMcGonagall> We do know when it caved in - Harry's second year. The twins say so when they give him the map. [14:32] <harryfreak359> but weren't the twins using it, so that squashes the idea that LV caved it in [14:32] <Aislinn> It happened before the cave-in, I think, Mr McG, but I agree that it was related to the Basilisk [14:32] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [14:32] <Jrg1990> it caved in between sirius' time and fred and georges, so i doubt its a way into the chamber, coz slytherin wouldnt have left it open like that. [14:32] <SoonerGryffindor> but I have a feeling a snake had something to do with t [14:32] <Aislinn> F&G said it got blocked in the winter, so that was before the cave-in [14:32] <futureweasley> that's possible, Sooner [14:32] <JaneMarple9> exactly it caved in in Harry's second year smile [14:32] <Fatalmoon> If the cave-in happened in the CoS, it could have caused one in the tunnel if it were directly above the CoS. [14:32] <Expelliarmas> Slytherin might have left it as a passage to sneak back into the castel [14:32] <MrMcGonagall> It seems the passage must have originally led to Hogsmeade, if the twins were using it. [14:32] <Expelliarmas> *castle [14:32] <Aislinn> it was open when the twins first started using the map [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, ut I think that the basilisk caused it to cave in [14:33] <harryfreak359> hmm...interesting [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> and that there is another entracne to the CoS [14:33] <halfakneazle> it would make sense... [14:33] <futureweasley> I totally missed that...through 7 rereads!! [14:33] <harryfreak359> I like sooner's idea [14:33] <nympheart> with all those pipes there probably is another entrance [14:33] <Expelliarmas> looks like you'll have an 8th reread soon [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [14:33] <JaneMarple9> and if it was blocked that winter, that was the time Harry and Ron took the polyjuice potion [14:33] <Ravendor> lol [14:33] <Aislinn> agreed nympheart [14:33] <halfakneazle> Slytherin would have wanted a way back in after he left the school [14:33] <futureweasley> tehehe [14:33] * futureweasley gives Expie noogies [14:33] <Expelliarmus> Does Lord Voldemort have any kind of future plan concerning Hogwarts? [14:33] <Aislinn> absolutely! [14:33] <Spown> definately [14:34] <halfakneazle> yes! [14:34] <SoonerGryffindor> "legroom" [14:34] <MrMcGonagall> He wants it, definitely. [14:34] <nympheart> yes [14:34] <Ravendor> yeah [14:34] <fawkes28> oh i think so [14:34] <Theoriser> I think Hogwarts is a big part of his overall plan [14:34] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe? [14:34] <Pleshette> A takeover I think [14:34] <Jrg1990> he wants to take over. [14:34] <Expelliarmas> Like what? [14:34] <MrMcGonagall> grisly plans [14:34] <JaneMarple9> Too take over it? I think [14:34] <futureweasley> he wants Hogwarts as much as he wants Harry [14:34] <Aislinn> I think he is going to take over the school, now that DD is gone [14:34] <fawkes28> especially now that DD is dead [14:34] <Spown> taking ove hogwarts is his first priority right now [14:34] <Spown> *over [14:34] <Ravendor> I agree, a take over [14:34] <Fatalmoon> Oh, I'm sure he does. Most of the Horcruxes are based on Hogwarts founders...it's the closest thing he has to 'home'. [14:34] <Jrg1990> more so i think sooner. [14:34] <Aislinn> and that is why the secret passageways are going to be so important for Harry [14:34] <nympheart> he loves Hogwarts, if he can take it he will [14:34] <fawkes28> he wants to train witches and wizards and start his own school [14:34] <Aislinn> It will be a way for Harry to get in and fight him [14:34] <futureweasley> you think so, fawkes? [14:34] <Expelliarmas> LV has always thought of Hogwarts as his "home" it would certainly be a centerpiece to his conquest [14:34] <harryfreak359> I think he wants to use it to teach students the dark ways...make it a school for only purebloods...like salazaar slytherin [14:34] <JaneMarple9> To try and recruit more deatheaters....younger ones [14:34] <Spown> it would be the perfect GLobal HQ there could possibly be [14:34] <velvet_fireball> a base of operations i guess. it's the place he'd feel most comfortable [14:34] <Pleshette> And I think Snape's coniving to be the one to be in charge [14:34] <Aislinn> with the members of the Order [14:34] <Spown> thoussands of spells protecting the castle [14:35] <fawkes28> yes that is why he wanted to teach at least we think so [14:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that theory Aislinn [14:35] <fawkes28> he liked the power of influencing minds [14:35] <Expelliarmas> Well, the RoR made the castle vulnerable [14:35] <Aislinn> thank you sooner smile [14:35] <futureweasley> I don't know that he ever really wanted to "teach" though [14:35] <Islwyn13> sorry, what's current question? [14:35] <harryfreak359> exaclty fawkes [14:35] <JaneMarple9> Yes, he's got Snapes help...or we think he has smile [14:35] <Islwyn13> Had to feed daughter lunch smile [14:35] <Spown> but it wasn't the room itself [14:35] <fawkes28> he didnt [14:35] <velvet_fireball> and if hogwarts is as well protected as it is always made out to be then vm has more defense being there [14:35] <MrMcGonagall> I bet it's the one slight advantage Harry has magically over Voldemort - better knowledge of the castle and its passages. [14:35] <Spown> it was what was inside of it [14:35] <fawkes28> he wanted people to build up the death eaters [14:35] <MrMcGonagall> Thank goodness for that map. [14:35] <Expelliarmas> Islwynn, the question is Does Lord Voldemort have any kind of future plan concerning Hogwarts? [14:35] <Pleshette> That's why I believe he has never totally been loyal to either DD or LV [14:35] <Islwyn13> ah [14:35] <Islwyn13> thank you [14:36] <Islwyn13> and yes, I think he does [14:36] <Aislinn> I agree Mr McG [14:36] <Ravendor> yes [14:36] <JaneMarple9> Hi Islwyn smile [14:36] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:36] <Islwyn13> Heya, Jane smile [14:36] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder if Peter has told him about the map [14:36] <Aislinn> with the Maurauders map, and his years of prowling around after hours, Harry knows that school like the back of his hand [14:36] <harryfreak359> I don't think so [14:36] <nympheart> i bet peter did [14:36] <halfakneazle> I'm sure he has [14:36] <MrMcGonagall> Somehow I don't think so. [14:36] <futureweasley> plus, I think Harry has a more pure "feeling" for Hogwarts [14:36] <JaneMarple9> Good point...perhaps Peter still wanted a way to keep a eye on Harry etc [14:36] <Aislinn> it will be really useful in fightng LV once he has taken over [14:36] <fawkes28> i agree mr.mcg [14:36] <MrMcGonagall> Voldemort has no clue of its existence. Why would he ask? [14:36] <harryfreak359> this is one of the important detail that peter hasn't told him [14:37] <Ravendor> I think so [14:37] <Spown> yep [14:37] <halfakneazle> good point mr mcg [14:37] <SoonerGryffindor> not the focus of this discussion, but I feel like that may be a key to Peter helping Harry in the next book [14:37] <harryfreak359> because I don't think he is the best servant in the world [14:37] <JaneMarple9> Harry thinks he knows the school [14:37] <Islwyn13> I dont' think Peter would volunteer any info unless he could see what was in it for him [14:37] <Spown> i don't think Peter has told LV about something he and his friends made during school [14:37] <harryfreak359> it would be just like him to skip something like that [14:37] <Expelliarmas> Harry and the twins definitely know the school [14:37] <Spown> LV might think it's childish [14:37] *** Fatalmoon has quit [Bye] [14:37] <velvet_fireball> he would probably be able to find out. peter might not be a very good occlumens. so vm would be able to pick the information out of peter's head [14:37] <Islwyn13> At the time, he was feeding him info on the potters...that was enough [14:37] <nympheart> he told LV that they were all animagi [14:37] <JaneMarple9> I don't think he'd know every nook and cranny...surely even Dumbledore didn't [14:37] <Islwyn13> if LV feels like it... [14:37] <fawkes28> plus voldemort hasnt been in hogwarts in years [14:37] <Ravendor> I agree, Jane [14:37] <Spown> smile [14:37] <MrMcGonagall> Hear, hear, Islwyn. [14:37] <Islwyn13> Not sure LV thinks Peter really has anything more to offer him [14:37] *** JSBulldog89 left #lounge [] [14:38] <harryfreak359> no I don't think DD knew that much [14:38] <Aislinn> he would have to know to look for it though velvet [14:38] <futureweasley> I love when DD admitted to not even knowing about the RoR [14:38] <Jrg1990> I donno spown. LV will be gathering info, and i think peter will have told him harry has a wa of navigating hogwarts. [14:38] <nympheart> LV was in hogwarts harry's first year [14:38] <Islwyn13> one reason LV stuffed Wormtail with Sirius [14:38] <Islwyn13> sorry, Snape [14:38] <harryfreak359> I think the twins and the marauders knew more [14:38] <Islwyn13> to get him out of the way [14:38] <JaneMarple9> Even the map doesn't show everything [14:38] <futureweasley> it proves that Harry knows the school better [14:38] <Expelliarmas> Could Voldemort possibly take over the school, and turn it into a school for the Dark Arts? [14:38] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree Islwyn [14:38] <Aislinn> me too, harryfreak [14:38] <harryfreak359> yes! [14:38] <nympheart> yup [14:38] <Ravendor> yeah [14:38] <Spown> it's possible butI hope not [14:38] <Aislinn> he's going to try [14:38] <Pleshette> yes [14:38] <futureweasley> I would hope not, but I think it could happen [14:38] <MrMcGonagall> I think that's his plan. [14:38] <Islwyn13> I'm not sure LV would care to turn it into a school... [14:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I sure hope not [14:38] <fawkes28> that would be "heaven" for him [14:38] <JaneMarple9> Voldmeort might do...but he will be stopped! [14:38] <harryfreak359> ooh, I misread the questioni [14:38] <Aislinn> and probably succeed for a little while [14:39] <halfakneazle> he'd want to but prolly woun't be able to. [14:39] <Islwyn13> I think he wants to take it to prove that he can [14:39] <Aislinn> but not for long [14:39] <MrMcGonagall> Amen, Jane! [14:39] <Islwyn13> to show his power [14:39] <harryfreak359> I think he would want too [14:39] <SoonerGryffindor> lol hf [14:39] <velvet_fireball> probably. but it depends if that is what his overall goal is. [14:39] <Ravendor> I don't know if he'd keep it a school though [14:39] <harryfreak359> not that he actually will [14:39] <fawkes28> i think it's his plan but not right away i think he wants to get harry out of the way first [14:39] <futureweasley> he'll have a lot of opposition, but he might have a bigger and more skilled army to make it happen [14:39] <harryfreak359> whoops [14:39] <velvet_fireball> he'd want to pursuade others to his way of thinking so teaching the youngsters is a good way of maintaining that power [14:39] <Spown> One think's for sure, if LV takes over Hogwarts, it won't be school for hairdressers [14:39] <halfakneazle> he doesn't care about students, he only cares about himself [14:39] <Islwyn13> why would LV want to train other wizards in the Dark Arts...wouldn't that be creating competitors? [14:39] <halfakneazle> lol spown [14:39] <harryfreak359> lol spown [14:39] <Aislinn> he's going to have a frightening army, yes, FW [14:39] <Ravendor> true, Islwyn [14:40] <JaneMarple9> Turn it into "Voldemort Acadmedy for Apprentice Death eaters!" biggrin [14:40] <Pleshette> Good point Isl [14:40] <Spown> lol [14:40] <harryfreak359> scary army of DE and inferi [14:40] <futureweasley> Giants, Inferi, dementors [14:40] <Islwyn13> I think he just wants to take it away from the Good Guys [14:40] <Ravendor> yeah [14:40] <harryfreak359> yeah me too islwyn [14:40] <MrMcGonagall> Well, V has an awfully high opinion of himself. I believe he thinks nobody could even come close to him magically, even with Dark Arts training. [14:40] <JaneMarple9> Not a pleasent idea smile [14:40] <Ravendor> he wants it for himself [14:40] <Aislinn> I think he needs followers that support his cause though Isl [14:40] <futureweasley> Giant, Dementors, Inferi, oh my! [14:40] <Islwyn13> They forbit him to teach there, and he'll show them! (He thinks...poor fool...) [14:40] <Expelliarmas> He'd use the school to create his own army, the next step is taking out the Muggles [14:40] <Aislinn> and he has apparently taught his DEs the Unforgivables [14:40] <Pleshette> Yeah, makes you wonder what his overall plan is? World domination? Then what? [14:40] *** halfakneazle has quit [Bye] [14:40] <Val_Halla> I agree Mr McG [14:40] <Spown> I think the 7th book would revolve around the school again but the schoold would have shift in command [14:41] <harryfreak359> I think he wants to be of power over more than he has now, and now that DD is gone, it will be easy for him to take ove, so I thinks [14:41] <nympheart> islwyn may have a point [14:41] *** nympheart has quit [Bye] [14:41] <Spown> it would be used for evil.... [14:41] <SoonerGryffindor> sad to think about, really [14:41] <futureweasley> nothing will ever be enough for LV, you're right Pleshette [14:41] <Aislinn> yes, spown, exactly [14:41] <futureweasley> his appetite for power in insatiable [14:41] <Spown> biggrin [14:41] <JaneMarple9> Yes Hogwarts will appear somehow in Book 7 [14:41] <Ravendor> I agre [14:41] <MrMcGonagall> First Hogwarts, then the world. BWAHAHAHA. [14:41] <Islwyn13> oh, yeah, it has to [14:41] <fawkes28> he doesnt show any mercy [14:41] <Pleshette> Will it ever be enough? [14:41] <Expelliarmas> Is Hogwarts now the safest place in the Wizarding World, or the most Dangerous? [14:41] <Islwyn13> It's been such a huge character throughout [14:41] <Aislinn> the most dangerous [14:41] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [14:41] <Val_Halla> safest, still [14:41] <JaneMarple9> How about Neville as headboy in book 7 smile [14:41] <fawkes28> i think it very dangerous [14:41] <Spown> I say the most dangerous [14:41] <Aislinn> as soon as LV takes over [14:41] <futureweasley> is it possible to be both? [14:41] <Islwyn13> Neither, I don't think [14:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant decide [14:41] <Ravendor> more dangerous than safe, I'd think [14:41] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge This post has been edited by SoonerGryffindor: Sep 17 2006, 04:58 PM -------------------- |
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[14:42] <Expelliarmas> Why is it Safest or Most Dangerous?
[14:42] <futureweasley> it's definitely a target [14:42] <Aislinn> he's going to take over fairly early in the book, I'd bet [14:42] <Ravendor> exactly, future [14:42] <Islwyn13> it has effective wizard teachers, but it also puts them all in one place [14:42] <fawkes28> he'll want it and he wont stop at anything to get it [14:42] <harryfreak359> testing [14:42] <MrMcGonagall> I wonder what sort of plans we'll see to defend it against the likely assault that's coming. [14:42] <Aislinn> strike while the iron is hot [14:42] <velvet_fireball> it still has the magic to protect it, but because of what happened in book 6, people's confidence will be shaken. [14:42] <Pleshette> With DD gone Hogwarts is vulnerable [14:42] <Islwyn13> if a weakness is found, LV can take out a lot of wizards in one fell swoop [14:42] <harryfreak359> I think it is dangerous now [14:42] <Val_Halla> I don't think LV is focused on Hogwarts - yet [14:42] <Expelliarmas> It was safest, now it's dangerous [14:42] <Spown> 1. DD is gone. 2. Harry Potter is there 3. Gryffindor artifact is there 4. The CoS is there [14:42] <Aislinn> yes, Pleshette - that is exactly what LV has been waiting for [14:42] <harryfreak359> now that DD is gone, I think that LV will strike out at it, so that he can gain more ground [14:42] <Aislinn> all good points spown [14:42] <Pleshette> Exactly Ais [14:42] <Expelliarmas> Because of all the magic there which can be used against the magical and Muggle worlds [14:42] <JaneMarple9> It's still reasonably safe. Professor McGonnalgal is a very good tutor and will help keep it going [14:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we see where it has more weaknesses than we first realized, but I still think it is pretty sage [14:43] <fawkes28> look what happened when DD went to the cave...it was not safe at hogwarts [14:43] <SoonerGryffindor> *safe [14:43] <Ravendor> good point, fawkes [14:43] <Val_Halla> LV doesn't fear kids and a few teachers [14:43] <Islwyn13> I wonder what exactly DD did to protect it, and how many of htose protections still stand? [14:43] <Pleshette> I think LV underestimates McGon. which will be a big mistake [14:43] <Aislinn> right fawkes [14:43] <MrMcGonagall> I'm not sure it's more dangerous than outside Hogwarts (legroom), but it certainly isn't safe. [14:43] <Ravendor> if they did it once they can probably do it again [14:43] <harryfreak359> i agree fawkes [14:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Mr. M [14:43] <Aislinn> a lot of the protections were put there by DD, but he is gone now [14:43] <Pleshette> She's one tough cookie! [14:43] <JaneMarple9> I think he fears Harry though [14:43] <fawkes28> he wasnt even gone that long and it caused a lot of destruction [14:43] <Islwyn13> took five stunners to teh chest! yep, she's tough all right! [14:43] <Ravendor> yep [14:43] <fawkes28> who knows what will happen now? [14:43] <velvet_fireball> hogwarts was safe because it was meant to be unassailable. it's been invaded so that safety is gone [14:44] <Aislinn> the castle may put up a fight against LV though, when he tries to take it over [14:44] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:44] <futureweasley> McGonagall is a tough old bird [14:44] <JaneMarple9> He can't work out why Harry has survived all the attacks [14:44] <harryfreak359> yeah, but her mind doesn't work at the same level...DD knew LV well... [14:44] <Expelliarmas> I think some of the protections for Hogwarts were set by the MoM and some by various headmasters [14:44] <SoonerGryffindor> that place definitely has its own personality [14:44] <Pleshette> That's his weakness. He underestimates the strength of others [14:44] <futureweasley> she's certainly not going to let Hogwart's go down without a fight [14:44] <Aislinn> all the portraits, and ghosts, house-elves, etc - all very loyal to DD [14:44] <Islwyn13> quite true [14:44] <harryfreak359> hopefully not [14:44] <Val_Halla> I agree Pleshette [14:44] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder if evn the portarits would put up a fight [14:44] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh [14:44] <Expelliarmas> The castle itself seems capable of fighting back, remember Flitwick teaching the doors to recognize Sirius' picture? [14:44] <harryfreak359> how sooner?! [14:44] <Aislinn> lol [14:44] <velvet_fireball> that was a long drawn out plan. dd has left school before and it hasn't been attacked. [14:44] <Spown> lol [14:44] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [14:44] <futureweasley> and I think that loyalty will transfer to McG, because that's what DD would have wanted [14:44] <Pleshette> It reminds me of when Gaston raids the Beast's castle! [14:45] <JaneMarple9> Dumbledore might have left instructions how to proctect the castle? smile [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> just by beng very uncooperative [14:45] <MrMcGonagall> McG will give V a run for his money if he attacks the school, but I still fear he can do it. [14:45] <Pleshette> All the objects attack! [14:45] <fawkes28> i think there is also some kind of magic around it that voldemort doesnt know about so he wont be able to completely destroy it [14:45] <Islwyn13> ah, could he have been doing that during the five min Harry uses to get his cloak? [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> and starirs switching, that kind of thing [14:45] * harryfreak359 is picturing Sir Cadogen dueling voldemort [14:45] <Expelliarmas> Yes, but a certain amount of magic seems to dissipate once the caster dies. [14:45] <Ravendor> lol, I was just thinking hte same thing, Pleshette [14:45] <Spown> Voldemort's worst nightmare-an unmovable picture of DD in his office!!!!! [14:45] <Islwyn13> that's a good point, Jame [14:45] <fawkes28> lol hf [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [14:45] <Aislinn> that's probably true fawkes [14:45] <Pleshette> smile [14:45] <Islwyn13> argh! can't type...Jane [14:45] <Val_Halla> That's a very apt comparison Pleshette [14:45] <velvet_fireball> lol pleshette, like beauty and the beast [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> portarait holes refusing to open........... [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be very funny [14:45] <harryfreak359> hahahah [14:45] <harryfreak359> laugh [14:45] <Islwyn13> yeah, until LV blasted them sad [14:45] <nympheart> like umbridge all over again [14:45] <JaneMarple9> biggrin great...first time for me to be called Jame biggrin [14:45] *** halfakneazle has joined #lounge [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly [14:46] <Islwyn13> lol [14:46] <Pleshette> Can you imagine the fun Peeves would have? [14:46] <Islwyn13> new nickname [14:46] <harryfreak359> lol [14:46] <Islwyn13> oh, Peeves! [14:46] <fawkes28> lol [14:46] <Ravendor> haha [14:46] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah and the house ghosts [14:46] <Expelliarmas> and the ghosts [14:46] <JaneMarple9> biggrin biggrin [14:46] <SoonerGryffindor> lololol [14:46] <nympheart> ol [14:46] <Islwyn13> Peeves vs. LV...who would win? [14:46] <harryfreak359> Peeves!!! [14:46] <MrMcGonagall> Poor Sir Cadogan will be nothing but a burnt-out spot, like the Black Family Tree. [14:46] <Ravendor> lol [14:46] <Pleshette> Moaning Myrtle! LOL! [14:46] <harryfreak359> *snorts with laughter* [14:46] <Ravendor> haha! [14:46] <fawkes28> peeves would throw a spit ball at LV [14:46] <nympheart> i wonder if myrtle knows who he is [14:46] <Spown> lol [14:46] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder if LV knows waddiwassi [14:46] <Islwyn13> more like drop a cabinet on him [14:46] * harryfreak359 is dying of laughter now [14:46] <JaneMarple9> Oh Peeves would be very handy...waterbombing Voldemort! [14:46] <Pleshette> She could throw the diary back at V [14:46] <Aislinn> she should, nympheart [14:46] <Spown> Myrtle will learn who killed her [14:46] <SoonerGryffindor> ooh [14:46] <Aislinn> she was in school with him [14:46] <Spown> and she'll get VERY mad [14:46] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Spown [14:47] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree [14:47] <nympheart> but would she recognize him? [14:47] <harryfreak359> *gigglesnort* [14:47] <Pleshette> brb need to check pie [14:47] <JaneMarple9> Good point...she might remember more about Tom Riddle [14:47] <Aislinn> I think so [14:47] <Spown> Think water....LOT AND LOTS of WATER [14:47] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [14:47] <nympheart> lol [14:47] *** halfakneazle has quit [Bye] [14:47] <Ravendor> lol [14:47] <Expelliarmas> Could Hogwarts become the new headquarters for the Order of the Phoenix? Why or Why not? [14:47] <Spown> Toilet water [14:47] <fawkes28> the twins would have to be there for that scene [14:47] <MrMcGonagall> I don't know . . . maybe the same fear that grips the wizarding world at the sound of Voldemort's name would paralyze some of the personalities of the school. [14:47] <Islwyn13> I'd say no... [14:47] <Val_Halla> I don't think so [14:47] <Islwyn13> too obvious [14:47] <Ravendor> I doubt it [14:47] <Spown> it would be a perfect HQ for the order [14:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think yes [14:47] <nympheart> i don't think the order would want to endanger the students [14:47] <harryfreak359> I doubt it [14:47] <Spown> but nah [14:47] <Aislinn> I kind of doubt it - unless they get there before LV does [14:47] <fawkes28> i dont think it will [14:47] <Islwyn13> too out in the open [14:47] <harryfreak359> too dangerous and out in the opeon [14:48] <JaneMarple9> Oh Myrtle would give Voldemort a very watery welcome biggrin [14:48] <fawkes28> unless it is held in the RoR [14:48] <harryfreak359> heheh [14:48] <SoonerGryffindor> kill 2 birsds with one stone [14:48] <velvet_fireball> i dont think so [14:48] <SoonerGryffindor> protect students and have a HQ [14:48] <nympheart> i'm not entirely sure the RoR is part of the castle [14:48] <Islwyn13> the DE's know about the RoR [14:48] <futureweasley> I don't think that Hogwarts will be the new OotP headquarters [14:48] <harryfreak359> I don't think it will be open [14:48] <Aislinn> they have to deal with the Ministry in a way that LV would not, and the Ministry wouldn't allow it [14:48] <Islwyn13> might be able to find a way to break into it [14:48] <Val_Halla> They still have 12GP [14:48] <futureweasley> I think it's going back to Grimmauld place [14:48] <Islwyn13> yeah, I think they'll stay there [14:48] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree [14:48] <Aislinn> me too [14:48] <Ravendor> maybe [14:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I still like the idea [14:48] <Islwyn13> no reason not to [14:48] <nympheart> i think Harry will need Grimmauld Place [14:49] <JaneMarple9> Dumbledore might have another secret hiding place for the Order? [14:49] <nympheart> the Horcrux was/is there [14:49] <Pleshette> Yes nymphheart [14:49] <Val_Halla> depends on how the Fidelius Charm works now that DD is dead [14:49] <Expelliarmas> I think there will be an Order guard there, but they will mostly be in London. [14:49] <nympheart> good point Val [14:49] <Aislinn> Grimmauld Place is still protected by the Fidelius charm - its safest [14:49] <MrMcGonagall> Ture. [14:49] <MrMcGonagall> Ture [14:49] <JaneMarple9> Has Harry been back to Grimmauld Place since Sirius died? [14:49] <Islwyn13> yes, everyone DD already told about it still knows about it [14:49] <MrMcGonagall> True!!! [14:49] <Aislinn> Jo answered that on her website [14:49] <futureweasley> Harry doesn't "want" Grimmauld Place...he will turn it back over to Arthur and Co. [14:49] <Islwyn13> no, he hasn't [14:49] <Spown> JKR said that the Fidelius charm still works even if the secret keeper dies [14:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree, but I still like the idea of a large order presence at Hogwarts too [14:49] <Expelliarmas> The Fidelius Charm does not dissipate with the death of the secret keeper. [14:49] <fawkes28> maybe they wont be able to have a set place they'll keep changing it [14:50] <Ravendor> maybe, fawkes [14:50] <nympheart> but Harry didn't know where the Order moved to, can he go wherever it is now? [14:50] <Spown> "The secret dies with the keeper." [14:50] <Val_Halla> But is there a new secret-keeper? [14:50] <futureweasley> yeah, maybe fawkes [14:50] <Aislinn> there is no reason for them not to be able to use Grimmauld place [14:50] <harryfreak359> then how can anyone else ever find it? [14:50] <MrMcGonagall> Now nobody who didn't know about the GP HQ can find out. [14:50] <Spown> they can't [14:50] <Islwyn13> they may have moved back to GP after they confirmed that Harry did, indeed, own it [14:50] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps they'll have Godric's Hollow as the new meeting place? [14:50] <Expelliarmas> There could be a new secret keeper, but is it necessary? [14:50] <futureweasley> if they create a new "secret keeper", problem solved [14:50] <MrMcGonagall> It could be a problem [14:50] <harryfreak359> have you ever had a discussion on the fidelius charm? [14:50] <nympheart> i don't think they can have a new one [14:50] <Spown> unless DD has written 100 notes with the address and given them to order members to keep [14:50] <Expelliarmas> There's no building at Godric's Hollow, it got blown up. [14:50] <MrMcGonagall> but the secret's already being kept . . forever. [14:51] <nympheart> that's a security issue spown [14:51] <nympheart> remember Neville and the passwords? [14:51] <futureweasley> that's an interesting idea, Jane, but I don't think they will do that out of respect for Harry, James and Lily [14:51] <Spown> lol yeah [14:51] *** halfakneazle has joined #lounge [14:51] <Islwyn13> of course, that may be why they'd have to move it from GP [14:51] <JaneMarple9> Could it not be rebuilt in secret? smile [14:51] <Islwyn13> so they can recruit new members [14:51] <futureweasley> yeah, nympheart...they wouldn't even need a secret keeper in that place [14:51] <Islwyn13> otherwise, no new member could get into GP [14:51] <MrMcGonagall> How about the Dursley's house? smile [14:51] <halfakneazle> hey guys sorry. my popup blocker thinks that the corner booth is a virus. [14:51] <Ravendor> lol [14:51] <Aislinn> do they even need a secret hide-out anymore, now that the ministry recognizes that a war is once again being waged with LV? [14:51] <Spown> lol [14:51] <Islwyn13> eek! [14:51] <MrMcGonagall> HEHEHEHE [14:51] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [14:52] <Spown> I'm sure Uncle Vernon would be delighted to have Order Members there [14:52] <halfakneazle> what're we talking about? [14:52] <Expelliarmas> Do you think that students would feel safe, returning to Hogwarts when there is a war on? [14:52] <Islwyn13> they still need to stay away from teh DEs [14:52] <Ravendor> yeah [14:52] <Val_Halla> Probably not [14:52] <Spown> no [14:52] <Islwyn13> students won't feel safe anywhere [14:52] <halfakneazle> depends on the student [14:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think most of the DA will [14:52] <futureweasley> students might, parents won't [14:52] <nympheart> their parents certainly won't [14:52] <Ravendor> no, not without DD [14:52] <Aislinn> no, they are no longer safe at Hogwarts [14:52] <JaneMarple9> Oooo yes MrMcGonnagal. I am interested in the house at Privet Drive at the moment [14:52] *** wronskifeint has joined #lounge [14:52] <fawkes28> i dont think they will return [14:52] <velvet_fireball> i don't think the students will feel safe [14:52] <Spown> parents definately won't [14:52] <MrMcGonagall> I think the concern is going to be more on the parent's side. [14:52] <Expelliarmas> Do you think their parents would even allow them to? [14:52] <wronskifeint> Hi [14:52] <Jrg1990> i think, like ron said, its as safe as anywhere else, and at least there they have protection. [14:52] <harryfreak359> no [14:52] <nympheart> most won't [14:52] <Islwyn13> again, some will [14:52] <SoonerGryffindor> like Ron said, its probably just as safe as anythwere else [14:52] <JaneMarple9> Hi Wronski smile [14:52] <Ravendor> hey, wronski [14:52] <Spown> my parents wouldnt [14:52] <Islwyn13> Neville's grandmother probably would [14:53] <velvet_fireball> no, i doubt it [14:53] <SoonerGryffindor> hey wronski [14:53] <Aislinn> I think many parents would keep their children away [14:53] <fawkes28> no i dont think it will be open to students [14:53] <Jrg1990> lol sooner great minds LOL [14:53] <Val_Halla> I think the school will stay open but lots of parents will keep their kids home [14:53] <harryfreak359> hi wronksi [14:53] <nympheart> Seamus would go no matter what [14:53] <futureweasley> I think Hogwarts will reopen...but the attendance will go down significantly [14:53] <wronskifeint> I think that most people loyal to Dumbledore and Hogwarts would probably want their kids to go. [14:53] <Islwyn13> I think it'll open, but there won't be many students [14:53] <JaneMarple9> Neville's grandfather would yes [14:53] <wronskifeint> I agree FW [14:53] <Aislinn> he said that when DD was still alive thought sooner [14:53] <SoonerGryffindor> lol James [14:53] <Islwyn13> not as many as there were, anyway [14:53] <MrMcGonagall> I agree FW [14:53] <Expelliarmas> Given that Hogwarts is coveted by LV, I wonder if parents would want their kids there [14:53] <halfakneazle> I'm with fw [14:53] <Ravendor> I agree, future [14:53] <Islwyn13> their parents remember the first wizarding war though [14:53] <Islwyn13> when nowhere was safe [14:53] <velvet_fireball> i'd probably want my family with me in such dangerous times [14:53] <Islwyn13> and the school was open then [14:53] <halfakneazle> does the public know LV covets Hogwarts? [14:53] * SoonerGryffindor also agrees with futureweasley [14:54] <Islwyn13> so I think it'll be open agan [14:54] <Spown> i agree [14:54] <futureweasley> I don't see them closing...students will need all the magically education they can arm themselves with [14:54] <Jrg1990> the thing is Expel, that everywhere is covered by LV right now. at least at hogwarts there are ALOT of wizards, incase a battle breaks out again. [14:54] <wronskifeint> well that was when Dumbledore was there... [14:54] <JaneMarple9> The parents will want the students to complete their education and become stronger? [14:54] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think most people realize the depth of V's attachment to the school, but they do know that he probably wanted to take it over in Vold War ! [14:54] <SoonerGryffindor> which is a big reason why I dont think we will see quidditch next year [14:54] <MrMcGonagall> One [14:54] <harryfreak359> Vold war? [14:54] <Aislinn> it really depends on how soon LV tries to take over the school, if he does [14:54] <harryfreak359> lol [14:54] <Spown> Vold War II [14:54] <SoonerGryffindor> not enough studenst [14:54] <halfakneazle> Lol vold war [14:54] <JaneMarple9> Vold War...Cold War biggrin [14:54] * Jrg1990 misread covet as cover, so retracts is statment biggrin [14:54] <fawkes28> i thinki think they will go to school outside of britain if their parents really wanted to educate them or homeschool them [14:54] <Islwyn13> oh, we don't see Quidditch, JKR already said so [14:54] <futureweasley> Jo just doesn't want to write Quidditch [14:54] <Aislinn> if it is early int he book, the students won't be going back [14:54] <Jrg1990> his( [14:54] <Spown> that's right [14:54] <Spown> no more quiddich [14:54] <Spown> YAY!!!!! [14:55] <fawkes28> no time for quidditch there is war [14:55] <harryfreak359> sad [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> but I think that is becasue of much lower amount of students [14:55] <harryfreak359> *sniff* [14:55] <JaneMarple9> Shame...but I want to know alll about Harry [14:55] <futureweasley> well, outside the castle is a precarious place to be when your at Hogwarts [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> but that about 1/3 will show up [14:55] <halfakneazle> I think JKR said there's no more quiddich cause harry isn't going to be at Hogwarts [14:55] <harryfreak359> I think it is because the school won't be open [14:55] <JaneMarple9> I can cope with no Quidditch! [14:55] <wronskifeint> I think less than that FW [14:55] <Spown> no [14:55] <MrMcGonagall> If Hogwarts isn't open, Harry's going to have to do an awful lot of travel to see people. [14:55] <Spown> she didn't expalin it [14:55] <futureweasley> the woods, the pitch, even Hagrids will be dangerous [14:55] <Aislinn> I don't remember seeing that halfakneazle [14:55] <Expelliarmas> What kind of significance, if any, is there to the fact that DD is now buried at Hogwarts? [14:55] <Islwyn13> don['t think it's about Harry, just wouldn't want that many students up in the air...too risky [14:55] <nympheart> i think it's because Harry wo't be there [14:55] <halfakneazle> That was just my opinion [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> protection [14:55] <Spown> none [14:56] <harryfreak359> I think that is because that is what he wanted...and that is it [14:56] <Islwyn13> remember how concerend they were for Harry when Sirius was on the loose? [14:56] <Islwyn13> didn't want him playing? [14:56] <JaneMarple9> Yes...and why doesn't Harry travel on....(drumroll) Sirius's moterbike? [14:56] <wronskifeint> I don't think that there is any significance. [14:56] <nympheart> symbol that he's still there [14:56] <MrMcGonagall> I think she just said "no quidditch," not why. [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> he is never realy gone [14:56] <fawkes28> i agree hf [14:56] <Jrg1990> none. It was just his wish to be there. I dont think theres a reason. [14:56] <Expelliarmas> DD is the only headmaster buried there, and Jo said there is a gravesite at Hogwarts [14:56] <Ravendor> agreed, hf [14:56] <futureweasley> as a reminder of what was sacrificed for the greater good [14:56] <Aislinn> what was that line about him not being gone as long as people loyal to him remained? [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> there has to be a signficant reason [14:56] <JaneMarple9> I think Sirius's bike is going to reappear [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Aislinn, you read my mind [14:56] <Pleshette> I think so too Sooner [14:56] <Islwyn13> maybe DD being buried there will bring Fawkes back to Hogwarts [14:56] <Jrg1990> OT: The motorbike is in the RoR, ive decided. [14:56] <Islwyn13> and to Hary [14:56] <Spown> it's a sentimental thing. Hogwarts was DD's last job and it's only appropriete to die there [14:56] <Expelliarmas> she also said that the Hogwarts gravesite would be important [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> and now he literally is physically there [14:56] <Jrg1990> it was hidden there. [14:56] <wronskifeint> LOL james [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> and he died to save students there [14:57] <Pleshette> More old magic maybe, protection [14:57] <futureweasley> yes he did Sooner [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> yes' [14:57] <velvet_fireball> dd mihgt have left a mark on the school like lily did on harry [14:57] <MrMcGonagall> Hogwarts is really meant to be a bastion of goodness in the magical world. [14:57] <Val_Halla> perhaps [14:57] <fawkes28> maybe there are other powers we know not about DD's connection to hogwarts [14:57] <JaneMarple9> Yes...but really it belongs to Harry. It could become useful [14:57] <futureweasley> and Snape killed him for the greater good? I mean . For the greater good, period. [14:57] <Aislinn> right, sooner, so did he put a protection on the school by that sacrificial act? [14:57] <halfakneazle> ooh interesting vf [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe something similar to what Lily did for Harry, except broader [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I think maybe so Ais [14:57] <Islwyn13> What belongs to Harry? [14:57] <Islwyn13> I missed something [14:57] <JaneMarple9> Sirius's moterbike [14:57] <Islwyn13> ah [14:58] <Aislinn> guys - topic [14:58] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:58] <JaneMarple9> we haven't heard about it since book 1 [14:58] <MrMcGonagall> Is it at Hogwarts? [14:58] <nympheart> it's the car's best friend [14:58] <wronskifeint> bye [14:58] *** wronskifeint left #lounge [] [14:58] <MrMcGonagall> Hagrid couldn't have returned it. [14:58] <nympheart> but that's not the point [14:58] <halfakneazle> lol nymph [14:58] <Aislinn> the motorbike is a little off the beaten path of the topic today [14:58] <JaneMarple9> sorry...nothing to do with Hogwarts sad [14:58] <halfakneazle> right, sorry [14:58] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, we're talking about Hogwarts [14:58] <fawkes28> there could have been magic in that sacrifice [14:58] <Ravendor> maybe [14:58] <Pleshette> Bye everyone, gotta go [14:59] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [14:59] <Ravendor> bye [14:59] <harryfreak359> bye pleshette [14:59] <futureweasley> yes, there most likely was, Sooner [14:59] <halfakneazle> byes! [14:59] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Pleshette [14:59] <futureweasley> I mean, Fawkes [14:59] <fawkes28> bye [14:59] <Islwyn13> could DD being buried at Hogwarts be a way to remind Harry that tthere's something there he needs? [14:59] <SoonerGryffindor> I think so [14:59] <harryfreak359> yeah fawkes [14:59] <Expelliarmas> I don't know about magic in the sacrifice. Lily made a blood sacrifice, unless Aberforth comes into play. [14:59] <velvet_fireball> bye pleshette [14:59] <Islwyn13> Harry goes back to visit DD's grave, and then goes to the castle to find infor [14:59] <Expelliarmas> which I doubt [14:59] <fawkes28> no harry knows how important hogwarts is [14:59] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think so. DD didn't specify where he wanted to be buried. It was the staff's idea. [14:59] <Spown> what's the question again? Sorry, I was afk for a minute [14:59] <fawkes28> and was to lord voldemort [14:59] <Islwyn13> no, it was DD's [14:59] <Islwyn13> he said he wanted to be buried at Hogwats [14:59] <JaneMarple9> hmmm Aberforth. Did Aberforth attend Hogwarts? [14:59] <MrMcGonagall> Di he? [15:00] <MrMcGonagall> Did he? [15:00] <Ravendor> yeah, that's what I thought, Islwyn [15:00] <Val_Halla> yes he did [15:00] <SoonerGryffindor> we were asking about the significance of DD being buried at Hogwarts Spown [15:00] <futureweasley> the way in which DD took the AK says to me that there was something more to the death that just "death" [15:00] <Islwyn13> and McG was thinking that they would need Ministry permission to do so [15:00] <nympheart> if he can't read... [15:00] <halfakneazle> yeah [15:00] <Expelliarmas> The questions is whether there is any significance to DD being buried at Hogwarts. [15:00] <harryfreak359> yeah Islwyn [15:00] <Islwyn13> but Hagrid (I think) insisted taht, if that's what DD wanted, that's what Dd would get [15:00] <Spown> ok, thanks! [15:00] <fawkes28> yes, future something we still need to learn about [15:00] <Aislinn> I agree FW [15:00] <JaneMarple9> Yes, I think Dumbledore wants to watch over Hogwarts in a way [15:00] <Spown> The misterious brother Aberforth...hmmm [15:01] <futureweasley> I think his being buried there is significant, and it might help hold up the magical protections he placed on Hogwarts [15:01] <Islwyn13> there must be some significance...DD never did anything for no good reason... [15:01] <Aislinn> I think you may be right [15:01] <Islwyn13> I jsut can't totally fathom what it might be [15:01] <Spown> Hogwart was DD's most prized possesion after all [15:01] <futureweasley> maybe his "sacrifice" was for his love of Hogwarts...protecting it [15:01] <Val_Halla> I agree [15:01] <nympheart> i think its significance is symbolic [15:01] <halfakneazle> I don't think it's going to affect the outcome of the book. just that he wanted to be ther [15:01] <Ravendor> yeah [15:01] <Expelliarmas> What magical artifact do you think would be the most useful for Harry if he does return (e.g., pensieve, ghosts, portraits)? [15:01] <JaneMarple9> Yes, it will help the magical protecion [15:01] <nympheart> pensieve [15:01] <Val_Halla> pensieve [15:01] <halfakneazle> hmmm...pensieve! [15:01] <Islwyn13> and portrait [15:01] <Aislinn> the school and the people within it, yes FW [15:01] <nympheart> i think he'll get it [15:01] <MrMcGonagall> Pensieve. [15:01] <JaneMarple9> I think the Time turner [15:01] <Spown> invisibility cloak [15:01] <SoonerGryffindor> ghosts [15:01] <Expelliarmas> Why? [15:01] <fawkes28> the pensieve [15:01] <Islwyn13> he has his cloak [15:01] <Spown> there are no time turners left [15:01] <Islwyn13> it's not at Hogwarts [15:02] <JaneMarple9> and invisability cloak [15:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I have a whole theory about the ghosts, the founders, and that whole time era [15:02] <Aislinn> the pensieve, but only if there are more stored memories to be viewed [15:02] <nympheart> the schedules at Hogwarts don't fit, I think there are time turners there [15:02] <velvet_fireball> pensieve [15:02] <fawkes28> i think because there are so many memories in there that dumbledore has there has to be something more to help harry [15:02] <Ravendor> probably pensieve [15:02] <halfakneazle> it's got all of dd's memories in it. that's a lot of knowledge to be put to good use. [15:02] <Ravendor> yeah [15:02] <Aislinn> I think that Harry will learn something from the portraits [15:02] <Val_Halla> I would be very surprised if DD didn't leave at least one memory for Harry [15:02] <Islwyn13> Time Turners were strictly guarded... [15:02] <MrMcGonagall> If Harry can learn how to ppull thoughts out of his head, he could look specifically at that night in Godric's Hollow., for example. [15:02] <Islwyn13> I dont think there are any at Hogwartts [15:02] <Spown> no, the MoM has to issue time turner to deserving students [15:02] <fawkes28> the lesson hasnt stopped just because dumbledore died that why he has the pensieve [15:02] <nympheart> Harry's best source of information is the past and DD had more information on that than anyone [15:02] <Islwyn13> Remember the trouble McG went to to get Hermione one? [15:02] <Aislinn> why do you think it has all of DD's memories, halfa? [15:02] <JaneMarple9> Yes the Pensieve could be useful with Dumbledores memories [15:02] <Val_Halla> Yes Mr McG! [15:03] <Aislinn> I disagree that he placed them all in the pensieve [15:03] <velvet_fireball> because if there are significant memories belonging to dd harry would need to see it [15:03] <futureweasley> DD's memories will be crucial [15:03] <JaneMarple9> and the Portraits too [15:03] <Islwyn13> What if Snape left some of his memories in the Pensieve? [15:03] <Spown> he didn't place htem all int he pensieve [15:03] <Spown> definately not [15:03] <halfakneazle> I don't think it was literally all of them [15:03] <Expelliarmas> I think DD did store his memories somewhere, they were remarkably important and he saw a lot [15:03] <fawkes28> i think before they left for the cave, he put the ones in there that will be useful to harry [15:03] <nympheart> he'd have taken them back [15:03] <futureweasley> I think the pensive will be quite important [15:03] <Islwyn13> I agree, fawkes [15:03] <halfakneazle> I just ment that it was a lot [15:03] <Spown> I wouldn't feel comfortable with memories just lying around in a well [15:03] <Islwyn13> that makes sense [15:03] <Ravendor> yes, fawkes [15:03] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think anyone ever leaves their memroies lying around in a Penseive. DD and Snape each did it once because they were interrupted. [15:03] <Islwyn13> but he did... [15:04] <Aislinn> I doubt he placed more in there at any one time than the ones he was using to explore a theory [15:04] <Islwyn13> that's how Harry found out about Crouch JR the first time [15:04] <Aislinn> and that there are probably not many there [15:04] <Islwyn13> they were just in the pensieve [15:04] <nympheart> I think DD did, maybe intentionally for Harry [15:04] *** Theoriser has quit [Bye] [15:04] <Spown> yes [15:04] <fawkes28> true islwyn [15:04] <Expelliarmas> memories can be stored in those little bottles [15:04] <Spown> it's much better to find it by yourself than ask [15:04] <MrMcGonagall> I think DD would want to have all his knowledge of V in his head before embarking on a horcrux hunt. [15:04] <Islwyn13> and he was exploring the Horcruxes,....some of his memories about what he discovered may be in there [15:04] <Expelliarmas> not just the pensieve [15:04] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Expie [15:04] <fawkes28> or maybe he put them in a vault for harry [15:04] <Val_Halla> DD collected other people's memories of LV [15:04] <Aislinn> because he was thinking about what was happening at the school at that time, Isl [15:04] <futureweasley> they can be stored outside of the pensieve [15:04] <Val_Halla> perhaps he has some from Snape stored away [15:05] <nympheart> Snape would have taken his I think [15:05] <Aislinn> the ones that would be in the pensieve now would only be ones related to whatever he was trying to work out recently [15:05] <Ravendor> yeah [15:05] <Islwyn13> when he was looking into Horcruxes? [15:05] <Expelliarmas> just because you put a memory in the pensieve, does it mean you lose it forever? [15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe the memory of why he trusts Snape? [15:05] <Aislinn> and Harry saw those [15:05] <Islwyn13> yeah, and that was Horcruxes... [15:05] <futureweasley> yes Sooner [15:05] <Islwyn13> but there may have been more. [15:05] <Ravendor> I hope so, Sooner [15:05] <Spown> i wonder, if you take away a momory and put it in the pensieve, would you still remember the original memory??? [15:05] <futureweasley> and you know why I think he does [15:05] <Islwyn13> He may ahve shown Harry waht he thought was most important [15:05] <Val_Halla> That's what I'm thinking SG [15:05] <Spown> *memory [15:05] <MrMcGonagall> I think so. [15:05] <Islwyn13> but Harry may find importance in something else [15:05] <nympheart> some evidence suggest the memories are only copies, others the real things. Maybe it could be either depending [15:05] <Aislinn> he seemed to, when he took out the memory of the prophecy [15:05] <Ravendor> I'm curious about that too, spown [15:05] <Islwyn13> I think Harry will discover something DD missed [15:06] <nympheart> i think so too islwyn [15:06] <Expelliarmas> Given that the DADA job is jinxed, any predictions on the new Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, if there is one? [15:06] <halfakneazle> me to islwyn [15:06] <Islwyn13> I think you'd remember the original memory... [15:06] *** Jrg1990 has quit [Bye] [15:06] <Spown> for all we know, the pensieve is used to evaluate one's memories from all perspectives, not only one [15:06] <Islwyn13> the Pensieve just externalizes it, makes it easier for you to examine it [15:06] <MrMcGonagall> An Order member, for usre. [15:06] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [15:06] <Aislinn> that is exactly what Jo said spown [15:06] <Spown> hmmm [15:06] <MrMcGonagall> sure [15:06] <nympheart> i think the real Mad-Eye [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Krum [15:06] <Islwyn13> without interference from other memories [15:06] <futureweasley> I'm thinking it will be Hagrid [15:06] <Val_Halla> Tonks [15:06] <Spown> Krum>?? [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [15:06] <Spown> I say Tonks [15:06] <harryfreak359> I don't think that the school will open, but if it does, it will be someone from the order [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Krum [15:06] <Aislinn> I've heard the Krum idea, just recently [15:06] <fawkes28> i dont think there is going to be one [15:07] <Aislinn> its an interesting one [15:07] <harryfreak359> hagird? Future [15:07] <futureweasley> Krum?! [15:07] <Islwyn13> there MUST be one... [15:07] <nympheart> Tonks will want to be where the action is [15:07] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid as a DADA instructor? lol [15:07] <Islwyn13> esp given the times! [15:07] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [15:07] <Islwyn13> but not Hagrid smile [15:07] <Jrg1990> i think either the real mad-eye, or perhaps even Krum. [15:07] <nympheart> Krum maybe, actually [15:07] <Islwyn13> Maybe Krum...she did say we'd see him again [15:07] <futureweasley> I can see Hagrid trying to teach DADA [15:07] <fawkes28> the order members really dont have time to teach [15:07] <Spown> I am thinking it might be Aberforth... that would be a twist [15:07] <Jrg1990> Jo said wed see Krum again, and it would be a good place. [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> he was taught the dark arts, he's good enough to be a tri-wiz champ...... [15:07] <Islwyn13> he either has to come to Hogwarts, or the trio ahve to go to Bulgaria [15:07] <nympheart> Hagrid does enough already [15:07] <fawkes28> at least not this year [15:07] <Expelliarmas> Why would you take a job you know is jinxed? [15:07] <futureweasley> and Grubbly-Planks teaching CoMC [15:07] <Islwyn13> he might be too young, though [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> he knows Harry, and it would be great to see Ron struggle with that laugh [15:07] <Expelliarmas> You'd need 100 gallons of felix felicis [15:07] <halfakneazle> yes, expelliarmas! [15:07] <JaneMarple9> ok what are we talking about now? smile [15:08] <Val_Halla> Quirrell was young [15:08] <nympheart> Krum's, what 22 now? [15:08] <Spown> Krum is too young to teach + he's from Durmstrang [15:08] <Islwyn13> he's what, 20 now? [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> Snape was only 21 [15:08] <Islwyn13> he was 18 in book 4...so 21 in book 7 [15:08] <Ravendor> around 20, yeah [15:08] <fawkes28> but krum could be the only one they could get [15:08] <MrMcGonagall> Vot is a Pixie? [15:08] <nympheart> that's true sooner [15:08] <Islwyn13> true, but Snape was an unusual case [15:08] <Ravendor> good point, Sooner [15:08] <Islwyn13> I think that was partly a way to protect Snape [15:08] <Islwyn13> keep him under DD [15:08] <nympheart> I think Krum is a possibility [15:08] <Islwyn13> DD's eye [15:08] <Spown> yep [15:08] <fawkes28> they wont get a brillant, esteemed colleague [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> it would fill a lot of holes [15:08] <Val_Halla> I'm converted - I think it will be Krum [15:08] <Islwyn13> Lockhart! lol, ok, maybe not [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> cause he's a character we already know [15:09] <futureweasley> Krum would be a decent choice... [15:09] <Spown> Krum teaching Ron DADA..... I wouldn't want to sit in the same table with him... [15:09] <Islwyn13> yeah, it has to be someone we know [15:09] <JaneMarple9> ooo the new DADA teacher? [15:09] <nympheart> lol [15:09] <MrMcGonagall> I would probably vote for Tonks. [15:09] <Islwyn13> hehe, Ron won't be there, I don't think [15:09] <Islwyn13> he'll be with Harry [15:09] <nympheart> but Ron's going with Harry [15:09] <futureweasley> expect, he's a hunk...and Lavender and Pavarti would NEVER shut up [15:09] <fawkes28> the trio wont go [15:09] <futureweasley> the trio has to go to school [15:09] <nympheart> except Krum's descibed as ugly [15:09] <JaneMarple9> How about....Lupin again? seems a popular choice? [15:09] <futureweasley> Hermione must finish her education [15:09] <Islwyn13> they'll go TO the school, but they won't ATTEND school [15:09] <Islwyn13> I don't think [15:09] <fawkes28> not as students [15:09] <nympheart> I think JKR said no Lupin [15:10] <futureweasley> I don't think Remus could do it [15:10] <Expelliarmas> Do you guys think that McGonagall will remain headmistress, or will someone else be appointed by the govenors to the job? If someone else, who and why? [15:10] <fawkes28> yes isl [15:10] <Ravendor> no, I dont think the trio will go [15:10] <Aislinn> Lupin would be the kid's choice, if they could vote [15:10] <futureweasley> he's busy with the werewolves [15:10] <Aislinn> but the parents still wouldn't like it [15:10] <Val_Halla> Someone else [15:10] <Spown> I am thinking that Harry would havet to leave frequently... like DD did [15:10] <Islwyn13> yep [15:10] <nympheart> I think McG will keep it [15:10] <futureweasley> it's McG [15:10] <halfakneazle> no, she'll be the headmistress. [15:10] <Spown> but he'll attend hogwarts [15:10] <Jrg1990> not minerva, but i dont know who. [15:10] <JaneMarple9> Yes McGonagall will stay as headmistress [15:10] <Expelliarmas> Not Umbridge! [15:10] <fawkes28> i think mcgonagall will [15:10] <MrMcGonagall> no, I think they'll stick with McG, is she survives the summer holiday. [15:10] <Aislinn> I think it will still be McG [15:10] <Ravendor> McGonagall probabbly [15:10] <futureweasley> why not, James? [15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I think McG [15:10] <halfakneazle> she'd be a wonderfull headmistress, imo [15:10] <Spown> ???!!!! [15:10] <nympheart> she's the logical choice [15:10] <fawkes28> she would probably be only one of the brave ones [15:10] <JaneMarple9> eeek :-o Umbridge as head? sad [15:10] <Aislinn> ooh, Mr McG, don't even say it!! [15:10] <Spown> NO! Not Umbridge [15:11] <fawkes28> she is dedicated [15:11] <MrMcGonagall> I know, I know . . . [15:11] <Jrg1990> i dont know why, i just dont see it.. [15:11] <Spown> I was "this" close to burning the book when she was headmistress [15:11] * SoonerGryffindor wants MR. M to take back what he said about MM [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:11] <Islwyn13> McG will CERTAINLY stay, if they tell her Umbridge is the next choice [15:11] <halfakneazle> why spown? [15:11] <Aislinn> I don't think they would be foolish enough to put Umbridge back in there [15:11] <Ravendor> no [15:11] <Jrg1990> she isnt decisive enough to be a headmistress, especially in a time of crisis. [15:11] <Spown> I so hated Umbridge!!! [15:11] *** Curious has joined #lounge [15:11] <nympheart> McG will stay just to spite Umbridge [15:11] <JaneMarple9> Or how about Hagrid as the head of school? biggrin [15:11] <MrMcGonagall> Sorry, sooner, but she's a talented witch, like Amelia bones. [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome curious [15:11] <Aislinn> hi curious [15:11] <halfakneazle> oh, I thought u were talking about Mcgonagall spown, lol [15:11] <Jrg1990> if it were any other time maybe, but right now they need someone with some power. [15:11] <Spown> Oh, come on! Cut MM some slack! [15:12] <Islwyn13> hehe, Hagrid is too flighty [15:12] <Islwyn13> and too easily loses confidence [15:12] <Aislinn> we're talking about whether McGonagall will remain as Headmistress [15:12] <Spown> she was in Gryffindor for a reason [15:12] <Expelliarmas> There's no reason not to appoint MM; she knows the job well enough [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder how the govenors decide that seriously [15:12] <velvet_fireball> if umbridge comes back the students won't want to come back [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> at least Lucius isnt there anymore [15:12] <Spown> lol yeah [15:12] <Expelliarmas> and she's a powerful witch [15:12] <halfakneazle> no way it's umbridge [15:12] <Aislinn> and she has covered for DD on multiple occasions [15:12] <Islwyn13> yeah, so they won' thave a clue what to do [15:12] *** MidnightPhoenix has joined #lounge [15:12] <nympheart> LV won't kill McG yet, the order will be in pieces now without DD [15:12] <Spown> they would prefer LV [15:12] <MrMcGonagall> I do think they'd stick with McGonagall. It seems a natural step. [15:12] <Islwyn13> without him whispering their decisions to them smile [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome mdnight [15:12] <JaneMarple9> biggrin nice thought though! Ok how about Madame Maxime? And merge Beaubatons and Hogwarts? [15:12] <Aislinn> when they kicked him out in CoS and again in OotP [15:12] <Jrg1990> nah, no way its umbridge. that much upon which we can agree LOL [15:12] <MidnightPhoenix> hi [15:13] <MrMcGonagall> I do think we'll see Maxime again. [15:13] <halfakneazle> hi midnight [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> we're discussin who will be the next headmaster at the moment [15:13] <Expelliarmas> Maxime, however, will not be headmistress of Hogwarts [15:13] <Jrg1990> how about peevesie for Head  that would be funny LOL (jk)[15:13] <MidnightPhoenix> mcgonagall [15:13] <JaneMarple9> or Headmistress biggrin [15:13] <Islwyn13> Madame Maxime might come to Hogwarts, I like that idea... [15:13] <nympheart> lol [15:13] <Spown> lol [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL James [15:13] <Islwyn13> but not become headmistress [15:13] <Expelliarmas> Slughorn could be a possibility [15:13] <MidnightPhoenix> she was deputy headmistress [15:13] <Spown> no [15:13] <nympheart> slughorn likes the backseat [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> ooh, I never thought of sluggy [15:13] <Aislinn> I can't imagine what reason they would have to appoint someone other than McGonagall [15:14] <Islwyn13> yeah, he likes to pull strings and reap benefits... [15:14] <Spown> definately not slughorn... i don't think the board would like that cause he retired [15:14] <nympheart> he won't take it if it were offered to him [15:14] <Expelliarmas> Flitwick? [15:14] <JaneMarple9> No Slughorn is still the close to Slytherin tendacies [15:14] <Islwyn13> without actually shouldering hte responsibilty [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [15:14] <Aislinn> he likes being in the background [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> Snape? [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> hahahaha [15:14] <Spown> I say that MM is the best candidate for the job [15:14] <MidnightPhoenix> i really dont think that there will be alot of hogwarts in the next book [15:14] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think Sluggy wants the responsibility, either. [15:14] <Aislinn> Snape is on the most wanted list, sooner [15:14] <Expelliarmas> Not Snape, Sooner, let it go! [15:14] <futureweasley> Sooner?! [15:14] <nympheart> yeah, snape that's it [15:14] <Ravendor> lol [15:14] <JaneMarple9> Snape? Not sure [15:14] <halfakneazle> Snape???!!!! [15:14] <Islwyn13> Oh, I think there will be a lot of Hogwarts, at teh end if not throughout [15:14] <halfakneazle> lol [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry, couldnt resist [15:14] <Expelliarmas> there's a grooming requirement to be headmaster [15:14] <Islwyn13> it's too huge a character [15:14] <Ravendor> definitely not Snape [15:14] <Spown> lol [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:14] <fawkes28> lol [15:15] <JaneMarple9> He could return to the good side smile [15:15] <Islwyn13> it's where everytyhing started, it has to be where everything concludes [15:15] <futureweasley> try, Sooner...try!!! [15:15] <MrMcGonagall> Unless V gets the school! [15:15] <Spown> i agree [15:15] <MidnightPhoenix> harry has to find about 5 horcruxs, [15:15] <Expelliarmas> Provided that Hogwarts stays open, who do you think will be the next Transfiguration teacher and why? [15:15] <Spown> AMEN! [15:15] <SoonerGryffindor> tonks [15:15] <Aislinn> ooh, that's a hard one [15:15] <nympheart> um [15:15] <Spown> hmmm.... [15:15] <Islwyn13> McG may have to be Headmistress and Transf teacher [15:15] <futureweasley> Yes, Tonks for Transfig [15:15] <Ravendor> McG could still teach [15:15] <nympheart> that's my best guess Sooner [15:15] <fawkes28> tonks would be a good choice [15:15] <halfakneazle> hmmmm.... [15:15] <Islwyn13> not sure they'l have a lot of applicants [15:15] <Aislinn> tonks is a natural, but would she be able to teach it? [15:15] <Spown> i think it would be somenone we don't know [15:15] <MrMcGonagall> I think McG may continue teaching the subject. She's so good at it! [15:15] <Expelliarmas> Tonks would be a riot [15:15] <Ravendor> lol [15:15] <Theoriser> I think McGonagall will continue to teach [15:15] <Islwyn13> Tonks wasn't good at Transfiguration, I didn't think.... [15:15] <Val_Halla> If McG is headmistress, she will hire someone new, like Tonks [15:15] <SoonerGryffindor> I would love to see tonks teaching [15:16] <Islwyn13> she relied on her metamorphmagus abilities [15:16] <nympheart> McG's got the order and the school, teaching would be too much [15:16] <SoonerGryffindor> sure she was [15:16] <Curious> love the Tonks idea [15:16] <MrMcGonagall> Will McG head the order, though? [15:16] <nympheart> i think so, who else? [15:16] <Ravendor> hmmm....I don't think so [15:16] <JaneMarple9> Tonks would be ... Interesting...as a teacher [15:16] <fawkes28> she's got a lot on her plate [15:16] <MidnightPhoenix> why would there have to be anew trangsfifuration teracher? [15:16] *** MidnightPhoenix has quit [Bye] [15:16] <Islwyn13> I don't think so, if she is headmistress... [15:16] <futureweasley> I think it will be Arthur to head the order, MrMcG [15:16] <Aislinn> she might have trouble explaining how to do it, to people who are not able to just use metamorphing [15:16] <fawkes28> she cant do it all [15:16] <Val_Halla> No, I think it will be Remus [15:16] <JaneMarple9> and hopefully her new husband could give her tips? smile [15:16] <Aislinn> because someone needs to teach it, midnight [15:16] *** MidnightPhoenix has joined #lounge [15:16] <futureweasley> lol jane [15:17] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Jane [15:17] <nympheart> Remus had trouble with transfiguration i think [15:17] <Expelliarmas> At least that job isn't jinxed [15:17] <JaneMarple9> Or how about Remus to head the order? [15:17] <Aislinn> and I don't think a Headmaster or mistress has time to teach [15:17] <MrMcGonagall> I'm beginning to despair that the school will reopen for students. [15:17] <Islwyn13> no info on Remus and Transfiguration, I don't htink [15:17] <nympheart> isn't that what he wanted Sirius to quiz him on in Snape's memory? [15:17] <futureweasley> Umbridge did [15:17] <velvet_fireball> tonks is clever enough [15:17] *** MidnightPhoenix has quit [Bye] [15:17] <Val_Halla> I think Remus will head the Order [15:17] <Aislinn> she wasn't a real one though FW [15:17] <SoonerGryffindor> and she would be a riot. I bet the kids would learn loads [15:17] <nympheart> I don't see Remus with the authority to lead the Order either [15:17] <Expelliarmas> Mercifully, Lockhart isn't available [15:17] <halfakneazle> hogwarts seems to be in a rut [15:17] <Spown> no [15:17] <Aislinn> and she didn't teach - she just made them read chapters [15:17] <Spown> MM would be the new head of the order [15:17] <futureweasley> the only reason Tonks wouldn't do it, is if she was busy with Auror stuff [15:17] <fawkes28> lol expel [15:18] <MrMcGonagall> Who would want to teach there after DD's death? It would have to be an all-Order faculty. [15:18] <Val_Halla> He was ini it the first time [15:18] <futureweasley> true aislinn [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with that mr M [15:18] <Spown> Or it might be flitwick [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> which is why I am leaning towards those peeps being teachers [15:18] <Spown> I would love him do a Yoda on LV [15:18] <Ravendor> but the Order wouldn't really have time to teach, would they? [15:18] <futureweasley> me too MrMcG [15:18] <Expelliarmas> We know that Salaazar Slytherin created the Chamber of Secrets, and many have speculated that the RoR is a creation of Rowena Ravenclaw's. Do you think there is anything else specially created by the other 2 founders at Hogwarts? [15:18] <fawkes28> mrs. weasley could teach she needs to get out of the house a little bit smile [15:18] <Val_Halla> I agree SG [15:18] <MrMcGonagall> YES! [15:18] <MrMcGonagall> Ravenclaw all the way. [15:18] <Spown> maybe [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I ove that thoery [15:19] <nympheart> possibly [15:19] <Ravendor> possibly [15:19] <Spown> DD's office-Gryffindor [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh [15:19] <Aislinn> I think the forbidden forest was planted or enchanted by Helga [15:19] <fawkes28> i think gryffindor definitely did something [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I never thought of the headmasters office [15:19] <Ravendor> hmm....good thought, spown [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Aislinn [15:19] <Expelliarmas> I think HH came up with the greenhouses [15:19] *** halfakneazle has quit [Bye] [15:19] <Spown> Gardens-by Hufflepuff [15:19] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [15:19] <MrMcGonagall> Perhaps Helga did the kitchens? [15:19] <fawkes28> something we dont know about [15:19] <futureweasley> I'm not sure...that might go back to that Secret Passageways question [15:19] <Aislinn> ooh, yeah, I agree about Gryffindor and Dd's old office [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> there might even be some kind of undergraound area [15:19] <MrMcGonagall> With the special tickle-me-pear entrance. [15:19] <Spown> biggrin [15:20] <Aislinn> yes, FW, one of the Founders was probably responsible for the passages [15:20] <Curious> school has to open to protect whatever LV was after [15:20] <fawkes28> like an underground world sooner? [15:20] <futureweasley> that seems a very "gryffindor" thing to do [15:20] <Spown> well, each founder build something in the school, it doesn't have to be only one [15:20] <Islwyn13> true [15:20] <futureweasley> right [15:20] <Spown> the common rooms were probably created by their respective founders [15:20] <MrMcGonagall> The RoR always seemed to me to be a typically clever Ravenclaw sort of thing. [15:20] <Ravendor> I think so [15:21] <nympheart> designed i think is a better word [15:21] <futureweasley> yes, MrMcG, I agree [15:21] <nympheart> I don't think the RoR is really part of the castle [15:21] <Islwyn13> the RoR is also very resourceful...could be a Hufflepuff thing [15:21] <futureweasley> and the enchanted ceiling seemed very "hufflepuff" to me [15:21] <Aislinn> the stairs were supposed to be Ravenclaw's too, I think [15:21] <Val_Halla> I think the RoR was a collaboration [15:21] <Expelliarmas> I thnk the stairs were done by RR. [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I've always wondered abut that enchanted ceiling [15:21] <Islwyn13> could be [15:21] <fawkes28> that would make sense aislinn [15:21] <futureweasley> the RoR as a collaboration makes sense [15:21] <Aislinn> yes, the ceiling does seem to be a Hufflepuff sort of thing [15:22] <Spown> oh, about that RoR not being part of a the castle, anyone read Keys to the Kingdom series??? [15:22] <nympheart> nope [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> no [15:22] <Ravendor> no, I haven't [15:22] <Aislinn> nope [15:22] <nympheart> explain spown [15:22] <Expelliarmas> nope [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> not hre [15:22] <Val_Halla> no [15:22] <Spown> they also introduce the same idea [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> off topic [15:22] <Aislinn> that it is not really a part of the castle? [15:22] <nympheart> i said that [15:22] <Spown> yes [15:22] <Expelliarmas> I think it is a central part of the castle [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder why it is unplottable [15:23] <nympheart> it's not on the map, but all the teachers knew about it, there's no way the marauders didn't find out [15:23] <futureweasley> but not really "part" of the castle... [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> no [15:23] <MrMcGonagall> I think because it's so changeable. [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> not even DD knew about it [15:23] <nympheart> the whole castle's unplottable, but they made a map of it [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> only Trelawney did as far as we know [15:23] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:23] <nympheart> the stairs change This post has been edited by SoonerGryffindor: Sep 17 2006, 05:10 PM -------------------- |
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[15:23] <Aislinn> yeah, I think it is because it is unplottable that it is not on the Maurauders map
[15:23] <Spown> lol [15:23] <MrMcGonagall> How do you define a room that's indefinite [15:23] <JaneMarple9> Am I back? [15:23] <JaneMarple9> Yep! [15:23] <Val_Halla> I'm not sure DD didn't know about it [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> good question mr m [15:23] <Expelliarmas> I think DD did know about it, he just didn't fully know how it worked [15:23] <futureweasley> that just proves that the Mauraders didn't know about it [15:23] <Spown> don't forget that ST is gifted with an inner eye [15:23] <fawkes28> yes [15:23] <nympheart> you don't doing it by omitting it [15:23] <Islwyn13> WB, Jane smile [15:24] <JaneMarple9> whats the question? [15:24] <Expelliarmas> If Hogwarts reopens, what will happen to the Room of Requirement? Will more security measures be necessary, why or why not? [15:24] <futureweasley> new one coming up [15:24] <Islwyn13> future, they may have known about teh RoR, just couldn't work around it's magic [15:24] <Islwyn13> to get it on teh map [15:24] <Spown> probably yeah [15:24] <Val_Halla> They'' get rid of that cabinet for sure [15:24] <Islwyn13> Harry has to get the potions book out of th eRoR [15:24] <JaneMarple9> It will still be there [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> lol vall halla [15:24] <MrMcGonagall> Something needs to be done about that cabinet, defintiely. [15:24] <nympheart> definitely more security, led by house-elves [15:24] <Val_Halla> they'll [15:24] <Islwyn13> yeah, the cabinet's history [15:24] <Spown> a troll or two would be nice [15:24] <Aislinn> I'm not sure how they could apply security measures to the RoR [15:24] <futureweasley> more wards... [15:25] <MrMcGonagall> The RoR isn't the problem. [15:25] <fawkes28> well if there is a horcrux in there, they will need security [15:25] <Expelliarmas> The cabinet ended up there because the RoR also works as a storage room [15:25] <futureweasley> no Hogsmeade visits [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> a OotP guard [15:25] <futureweasley> more auror protection [15:25] <futureweasley> right, Sooner [15:25] <JaneMarple9> I think there are more things in there what will help Harry's quest [15:25] <nympheart> if you need a way out/in the casle, it could be an issue [15:25] <Ravendor> maybe, Jane [15:25] <Expelliarmas> Perhaps they need to clean out the storage room [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> and Harry needs to go back to get the book [15:25] <Islwyn13> I think so, too, Jane [15:25] <futureweasley> yes he does [15:25] <Ravendor> yeah [15:25] *** Curious has quit [Bye] [15:25] <Islwyn13> too much made out of the storage aspect... [15:25] <JaneMarple9> How about the Tiara? smile [15:25] <Islwyn13> there's something ther [15:25] <Spown> i think the book served its purpose though [15:25] <Islwyn13> yes, quite possibly [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> there might be something to that [15:25] <nympheart> the book will be back [15:25] <MrMcGonagall> Let's remember the requirement Harry couldn't figure out in HBP - I need a place to hide something. [15:26] <Islwyn13> the one Harry uses to mark the locatio nof the book? [15:26] <futureweasley> the tiara is pish-posh [15:26] <futureweasley> lol [15:26] <JaneMarple9> biggrin so says future biggrin [15:26] <nympheart> or a horcrux [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> so Mr M, how many potential rooms do you think there are? [15:26] <Aislinn> they made such a point of Harry leaving reminders of how to get back to the book, I think it indicates that he will in fact go back for it [15:26] <Spown> lol [15:26] <MrMcGonagall> Limitless. [15:26] <JaneMarple9> A horcrux I think [15:26] <futureweasley> infinite [15:26] <Aislinn> and something he saw, besides the cabinet, will be important [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> interesting [15:26] <Islwyn13> oh, Harry got the "I need to hide something." He couldn't get the "what's Malfoy doing" part smile [15:26] *** riefvly has joined #lounge [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> /me really hopes that LV never learned about the RoR [15:27] <MrMcGonagall> But Harry didn't get it. [15:27] <Spown> Harry can be a bit stupid at times [15:27] <Islwyn13> AGreed, Aislinn [15:27] <JaneMarple9> And there is so much inside the room. To most people it is junk... [15:27] <fawkes28> in all of the books we learn about new items or spells,etc so it is hard to predict what he will find in there [15:27] <Islwyn13> what didn't Harry get? [15:27] <futureweasley> he'd have to know about it now, Sooner [15:27] <JaneMarple9> ...but to the more intelligent people it is useful! [15:27] <futureweasley> stupid is a strong word...I'd go with "think" [15:27] <Ravendor> agreed, future [15:27] <futureweasley> lol [15:27] <futureweasley> "thick" [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe [15:27] <Ravendor> lol [15:27] <Spown> ok [15:27] <MrMcGonagall> He knew Malfoy was doing something, but Harry never asked the question, "I need a place to hide something," which would have opened the room with Malfoy in it. [15:27] <Expelliarmas> Jo made a point of describing quite a lot of items in the RoR [15:27] <fawkes28> lol [15:27] <Aislinn> yeah, he's definitely not stupid [15:28] <Spown> how aobut "he doesn't use his head at times" ? [15:28] <nympheart> how should harry have known that would work though? [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> but he wouldnt kow about the uses for the room [15:28] <Islwyn13> oh, but he did when he needed to hide the book...but didn' trealize that that's where Malfoy was doing his thing, is that what you mean? [15:28] <JaneMarple9> No Harrys a little....strongwilled smile [15:28] <Val_Halla> can you say "red herring" [15:28] <MrMcGonagall> Exactly. [15:28] <futureweasley> yes [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [15:28] <futureweasley> I was going to earlier, Val... [15:28] <MrMcGonagall> That's why Trelawney found it, too. [15:28] <JaneMarple9> impulsive but not stupid! [15:28] <Aislinn> since he didn't know what Malfoy was doing, he couldn't know how to phrase the question [15:28] <MrMcGonagall> hiding her bottles. [15:28] <Islwyn13> true [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly [15:28] <Spown> ok, ok! Gosh! [15:28] <nympheart> exactly aislinn [15:28] <futureweasley> tiara = red herring of all red herrings [15:28] <Islwyn13> but he actually got into the room Malfoy was using, he just didn't KNOW malfoy was using it [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I still thank that even if LV knows about the room, he would not know anything about how it works [15:29] <JaneMarple9> we're see Future biggrin [15:29] <Val_Halla> i agree fw [15:29] <Expelliarmas> Will the school stay open, even if Harry doesn't go back? [15:29] <Aislinn> but there was a bloody axe, and the dead 5 legged thing - there are other things in there that might be hints of something [15:29] <MrMcGonagall> Islwyn, that's right. [15:29] <nympheart> i think LV will want to find out how it works [15:29] <Islwyn13> I think he'd figure it out, Sooner [15:29] <Val_Halla> Yes [15:29] <Spown> it will stay open [15:29] <Theoriser> I think it will [15:29] <MrMcGonagall> He didn't get in at a time when Malfoy was int here. [15:29] <fawkes28> no no no [15:29] <futureweasley> lol Jane...I'll eat the sorting hat if I'm wrong [15:29] <nympheart> it will stay open [15:29] <Ravendor> I think it will [15:29] <JaneMarple9> Yes it will stay open [15:29] <Theoriser> it almost has to, Hogwarts is such a big part of the series [15:29] <Spown> open [15:29] <Ravendor> yeah [15:29] <Aislinn> the school will start out open, and Harry will go back [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, but Harry will go back wink [15:29] <Islwyn13> yes, open [15:30] <JaneMarple9> biggrin ok future......it might taste quite nice biggrin [15:30] <Aislinn> something will cause him to realize he needs to [15:30] <Islwyn13> I don't think Harry will attend classes though [15:30] <Islwyn13> there won' tbe time [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> True [15:30] <Expelliarmas> lt will be open, but with a lot less students [15:30] <Spown> yes [15:30] *** velvet_fireball has quit [Bye] [15:30] <Ravendor> yep [15:30] <Aislinn> he doesn't know there is not time [15:30] <JaneMarple9> I think Harry won't return.... [15:30] <Val_Halla> I tend to think Harry will go back, too , Sooner [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> yeah [15:30] <futureweasley> Harry will have to go back...I think that Hermione will talk him into it [15:30] <Islwyn13> but he is on a mission, Aislinn... [15:30] <Ravendor> I doubt that Harry will go back [15:30] <nympheart> harry will go back for stuff, not school [15:30] <JaneMarple9> He has a mission to find the Horcruxes [15:30] <Theoriser> Harry still has things to learn from Hogwarts [15:30] <Expelliarmas> Harry won't go back as a student, but he will return [15:30] <nympheart> he won't stay there [15:30] <Spown> harry'll be back....definately [15:31] <Aislinn> just because we know he has to wrap up in this last book, he said if it takes me 1 year or 10 [15:31] <Islwyn13> I don't think he'll say, "Well, I need to get the horcruxes, but History of Magic first" [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> He'll go back, but not as a student. [15:31] <Spown> he'll have to miss a class or two though [15:31] <nympheart> but JKR said Harry knows enough [15:31] <Ravendor> agreed ,nympheart [15:31] <JaneMarple9> maybe one of the Professors will go with Hary? [15:31] <Theoriser> and if even Voldemort wants something from the school, then Harry can definately benefit from going back [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> He's no longer taking history of Magic. Remember the D? [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> he wont intend on going back at first, but he will end up there for most of the year I am convinced [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> smile [15:31] <Spown> lol [15:31] <Islwyn13> *bangs head against wall* [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> I think your'e right , Sooner [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks Mr M [15:31] <Aislinn> I agree sooner [15:31] *** riefvly has quit [Bye] [15:32] <fawkes28> i dont know if he willl tell the teachers what he is up to with the horcruxes [15:32] <Ravendor> maybe, Sooner [15:32] <Spown> how many questions are left, sooner? I have to go soon [15:32] <fawkes28> so how will he get out of classes? [15:32] <Islwyn13> no, I don' tthink he will... [15:32] <futureweasley> I don't think he will, fawkes [15:32] <Islwyn13> Lupin, maybe, but not many others [15:32] <Ravendor> no, he won't tell them [15:32] <JaneMarple9> I think Harry;s mission will take up the time more. [15:32] <Val_Halla> The whole premise of the series was 1 book = 1 year at Hogwarts [15:32] <Ravendor> he told DD he wouldn [15:32] <futureweasley> and McG will demand he attend class if he is there [15:32] <Ravendor> t [15:32] <fawkes28> but then they wont let him out of class [15:32] <Aislinn> right val halla [15:32] <Islwyn13> McG demanded that Harry tell her what he and DD were up to, but he didn't [15:32] <nympheart> Harry will get out [15:32] <fawkes28> and he cant do both [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> Spown, we ask till its time for the chat to be over [15:32] <Islwyn13> he has a different priority now [15:32] <Spown> oh, cool then [15:33] <MrMcGonagall> I think the necessary info for other horcruxes is closely bound up with Hogwarts, so Harry is going to have to spend some quality time there. [15:33] <Aislinn> another half hour [15:33] <Expelliarmas> Once Harry comes of age, it's up to him whether to return to school as a studet [15:33] <JaneMarple9> Is it possible that somebody "responsible" knows about the Horcruxes and Dumbledore leaves instructions to tell Harry about them??? [15:33] <fawkes28> so is he going to sneak out when he needs to if he starts there? [15:33] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M [15:33] <Spown> no [15:33] *** riefvly has joined #lounge [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> IMO , no way Jane [15:33] <Islwyn13> I dont' think so, Jane [15:33] <Aislinn> there will be plot driven reasons for him to realize that he needs to go back to the school [15:33] <Islwyn13> DD was very clear to Harry that he shouldn't tell anyone but Ron and Hermione about them [15:33] <Expelliarmas> Might Hogwarts be the scene for the final battle? [15:33] <Spown> YES!!! [15:33] <nympheart> the CoS [15:33] <Spown> I HOPE SO!!! [15:33] <Aislinn> probably [15:34] <Islwyn13> yeah, he'll go back to the school, but can you really see him sitting in class? [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe [15:34] <futureweasley> I think it will be [15:34] <fawkes28> yes i think it will [15:34] <Ravendor> maybe [15:34] <Aislinn> possibly, Isl [15:34] <Islwyn13> yes, I think scene for final battle [15:34] <JaneMarple9> But somebody else might know about them, without Harry opening his mouth? smile [15:34] <Val_Halla> No, I'm convinced it will be Godric's Hollow [15:34] <MrMcGonagall> Either there or the Ministry, and I lean toward Hogwarts. [15:34] <Islwyn13> hmm...I can't see it [15:34] <Expelliarmas> Why or why not? [15:34] <fawkes28> but hopefully more outside then inside [15:34] <Islwyn13> he's too impulsive, too impatient [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that it will be the scene for a battle, I jsut cant decide when it will happen [15:34] <Islwyn13> he'll want to finish LV as soon as possible [15:34] <fawkes28> so not too much damage [15:34] <Spown> I want to see a huge, LOTR-style, battle in the premises and a big duel between HP and LV inside [15:34] <Islwyn13> and will see sitting classes as a waste of time [15:34] <nympheart> Harry will want people out of the way and so will LV, they're the only two who can get into the CoS [15:34] <Expelliarmas> I think we've already had a battle there, I lean toward another location [15:35] <JaneMarple9> How about the final battle being at Godric's Hollow where it began? [15:35] <nympheart> probably with DEs and Order members fighting throughout the castle [15:35] <fawkes28> i think it will take place there because hogwarts is important to both harry and voldemort [15:35] <MrMcGonagall> Why would it need to occur there, though? [15:35] <Ravendor> there might be another battle at Hogwarts, but maybe not the final one [15:35] <Aislinn> there will be more battles there, though , expie, - LV wants something there [15:35] <Islwyn13> we've had several battles there, I don't think that precludes there being another one there [15:35] <Aislinn> so its possible that the final one will take place there [15:35] <Val_Halla> I think whoever was at Godric's Hollow the first time will gather ther again [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> there will at least be a minor battle there IMO [15:35] <MrMcGonagall> An attack on Harry, perhaps? [15:35] <JaneMarple9> To end it as it began it. Lord Voldemort killed Harry's parents there.... [15:36] <Spown> Godric's Hollow would be a place for Discoveries....and no I don't mean Harry will turn on the Discovery channel. I think HP would find something important there [15:36] <Val_Halla> yes jane [15:36] <nympheart> But that's not where it started for LV [15:36] <fawkes28> i think where ever harry finds the last horcrux, will be where the battle is [15:36] <Aislinn> I don't think Godric's Hollow will be the final location - Harry is going there early in the book, and will move on in his hunt [15:36] <nympheart> I agree with Spown [15:36] <JaneMarple9> and....Harry defeats Lord Voldemort there....Yeah! biggrin [15:36] <futureweasley> right, Aislinn [15:36] <Val_Halla> The conflict between Harry and LV started at GH [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> I'm not sure the place is going to be all that important. [15:36] <futureweasley> I think there might be a little "fight" at Godric's Hollow...but not the "big one" [15:36] <Aislinn> once he has been there, it seems unlikely he will go back [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I flucuate between thinking it will be Hogwarts and the DoM in the final battle [15:36] *** jade_and_diamond_fire has joined #lounge [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome jade [15:37] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [15:37] <futureweasley> ooh, the DoM [15:37] <MrMcGonagall> Me, too, Sooner [15:37] <fawkes28> hello jade! [15:37] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, the Love room is a definite possibility [15:37] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:37] <Spown> the big DoM [15:37] <harryfreak359> eek! [15:37] <fawkes28> that's true sooner [15:37] <Spown> i say no [15:37] <JaneMarple9> the Love room? biggrin [15:37] <jade_and_diamond_fire> hey, fawkes28, nice to see you [15:37] <Spown> the DoM fulfilled its purpose [15:37] <futureweasley> get 'em Harry...hug him to death!! [15:37] <nympheart> I think we'll see the DoM again, but the final battle will be the CoS [15:37] <Spown> LOL [15:37] <harryfreak359> LOL future [15:37] <Expelliarmas> Is there another Horcrux at Hogwarts? If so, what do you suppose it is? [15:37] <fawkes28> too many things to be done in this book smile [15:37] <Ravendor> lol [15:37] <JaneMarple9> Hi Jade [15:37] * Spown shokes [15:38] <Spown> yes there is [15:38] <harryfreak359> I don't think so [15:38] <nympheart> There's a horcrux there [15:38] <jade_and_diamond_fire> yes, way too many things to be done in this book [15:38] <nympheart> another isn't the right word [15:38] <JaneMarple9> the Tiara.....sorry Future smile [15:38] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [15:38] <Ravendor> hmm...I'm not sure [15:38] <MrMcGonagall> I think there is a horcrux at Hogwarts, and one in the orphanage. [15:38] <fawkes28> i think there is another one there [15:38] *** Theoriser has quit [Bye] [15:38] <nympheart> the diary was Lucius's [15:38] <fawkes28> not sure what it is though [15:38] <MrMcGonagall> No idea what it might be, though. [15:38] <Islwyn13> yeah, I think ther's a horcrux there [15:38] <futureweasley> I'm not entirely convinced that Gryf's sword isn't a horcrux [15:38] <fawkes28> something of the founders [15:38] <harryfreak359> I am sure that DD would know if the sword was [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Like everyone else here, I know there is one, but clueless as to what it is [15:38] <jade_and_diamond_fire> i'm hoping its something of Ravenclaw's bc i'm a RC and i always think there should be more about Ravenclaw in the books [15:39] <Aislinn> I'm not sure - I sort of thought that LV wanted something there to use as a Horcrux, but would he have been able to get it? [15:39] *** Jrg1990 has quit [Bye] [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Jade [15:39] <JaneMarple9> ooo and one at the orphanage where Tom was brought up ? Nice! [15:39] <Expelliarmas> I think there is one hidden somewhere in the COS [15:39] <harryfreak359> lol [15:39] <Aislinn> or had he already created it and left it there when he was a student? [15:39] <Val_Halla> I thinkHufflepuff's cup is at Hogwarts [15:39] <MrMcGonagall> Didn't Jo say that Ravenclaw would have a moment in the sun? [15:39] <nympheart> i don't like the orphanage as a location [15:39] <Aislinn> I guess that's possible expie [15:39] <Islwyn13> yeah, Aislinn, that's possible [15:39] <jade_and_diamond_fire> i hope so [15:39] <nympheart> i agree with Val [15:39] <Islwyn13> may have wanted to return to retrieve his horcrux, rathe rthan to make one [15:39] <Aislinn> yeah, maybe [15:39] <JaneMarple9> Yes I like the idea of a Ravenclaw object there. [15:40] <Islwyn13> he go tthe cup after he left Hogwarts, though [15:40] <nympheart> He couldn't have put one there though [15:40] <fawkes28> it could be very well be in plain sight at hogwarts [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm torn between the CoS and the RoR [15:40] <Islwyn13> if anything, I think it's Ravenclaw's item [15:40] <JaneMarple9> How about if it belonged to Luna's family? [15:40] <nympheart> he would have planted a horcrux while he still was at Hogwarts [15:40] <jade_and_diamond_fire> that's be cool [15:40] <futureweasley> well, the one thing I'm going nuts about is that Dumbledore never showed Harry how to get rid of a horcrux...so I'm thinking that he would have left behind a sort of "instruction manual" via the pensieve to show him how to do it [15:40] <Val_Halla> He could have used the cabinets when he worked at BB [15:40] <fawkes28> like the special services award [15:40] <MrMcGonagall> Just chuck it through the veil. [15:40] <Islwyn13> I think each horcrux has to be destroyed differently [15:40] <nympheart> lol, Horcrux destruction 101 [15:40] <jade_and_diamond_fire> good point, futureweasley [15:40] <MrMcGonagall> smile [15:40] <Islwyn13> so DD couldn't tell Harry how to destroy them withotu examining them first [15:41] <fawkes28> i think harry uses his instinct, future [15:41] <nympheart> i think so too fawkes [15:41] <JaneMarple9> It might sound ridiculas, but how about if a Horcrux is in Privet Drive? [15:41] <Islwyn13> teh diary just needed to be stabbed, but the ring obviously caused DD some difficulty [15:41] <fawkes28> it cant be taught [15:41] <nympheart> i don't think that will be much of a problem for harry [15:41] <Islwyn13> agreed, Fawkes [15:41] <MrMcGonagall> Not likely. V wouldn't have known any significance to Privet Drive. [15:41] <Aislinn> Harry is a natural at getting rid of Horcruxes - he was able to do it with minimal damage to himself when he destroyed the diary [15:41] <Islwyn13> he knows harry is there [15:41] <MrMcGonagall> There has to be at least one in Hogwarts. [15:41] <Islwyn13> but beforehand, you're right [15:41] <Aislinn> compared to the withered hand, or stoppered death, of DD [15:41] <Expelliarmas> somehow, I just don't think there would be any reason to have a horcrux at privet drive [15:41] <harryfreak359> harry has only destroyed one [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> its a start HF [15:42] <Expelliarmas> Will Harry still consider Hogwarts to be his home if he does not return? [15:42] <JaneMarple9> As in Privet drive, the house belonging to Lily and Petunia when they were young? Lily might have hid a Horcrux? [15:42] <nympheart> well, LV still considers Hogwarts his home [15:42] <harryfreak359> it doesn't really make him an expert thought [15:42] <nympheart> i'd say yes [15:42] <Ravendor> I've gotta go [15:42] <Islwyn13> how woul dLily have gotten hold of a horcrux? [15:42] <fawkes28> i think hogwarts will always be his home [15:42] <MrMcGonagall> Poor Harry. He is kind of homeless now, isn't he? [15:42] <Ravendor> bye everyone smile [15:42] <nympheart> bye ravendor [15:42] <fawkes28> bye [15:42] <Aislinn> I think Hogwarts will always have a special place in Harry's heart [15:42] <Aislinn> bye ravendor [15:42] <Islwyn13> agreed, Aislinn [15:42] <JaneMarple9> I think Harry will consider The Burrow his home now [15:42] <Islwyn13> bye, Ravendor : [15:42] <harryfreak359> I think he make the burrow his home smile [15:43] <Val_Halla> I don't think Lily lived at Privet Drive [15:43] *** Ravendor left #lounge [] [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Ais [15:43] <MrMcGonagall> No - that house is all Drsley. [15:43] <harryfreak359> but hogwarts will be special to him [15:43] <Expelliarmas> we're getting off topic with Privet Drive, folks [15:43] <JaneMarple9> we'll have to stop this echo Harryfreak biggrin [15:43] <jade_and_diamond_fire> i think the house at privet drive is only the dursleys [15:43] *** riefvly has quit [Bye] [15:43] <harryfreak359> lol jane [15:43] <MrMcGonagall> Hogwarts is key. [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Harry and LV both feel the same way about Hogwarts [15:43] <MrMcGonagall> yes [15:43] <Islwyn13> well, sort of [15:43] <futureweasley> to a degree, Sooner, I agree [15:43] <harryfreak359> yeah, that is kind of scary [15:43] <Islwyn13> Harr yfound friends and love there, LV found Power [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> and it is gong to come down to who wants it more and has its best interest s at heart [15:44] <MrMcGonagall> LV is perhaps a bit more covetous. [15:44] <fawkes28> i think so too sooner [15:44] <harryfreak359> true Islwyn [15:44] <nympheart> another terrifying similarity between two extremes [15:44] <Expelliarmas> Harry is better adjusted, Hogwarts will be special to him, but he shoulld find a home elsewhere [15:44] <JaneMarple9> I don't think Harry considers Hogwarts his home any more.... [15:44] <fawkes28> but i think that hogwarts is the ONLY thing voldemort ever cared about [15:44] <futureweasley> they both see it as "home", but their definition of "home" is very different [15:44] <JaneMarple9> ....lots of bad memories there now [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> why not Jane? [15:44] *** riefvly has joined #lounge [15:44] <nympheart> but more good memories [15:44] <jade_and_diamond_fire> i agree jane, i think harry's friends are his home [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> wb riefvly [15:45] <futureweasley> home is where the heart is, right? [15:45] <jade_and_diamond_fire> whereas Voldie wants hogwarts just for a treasure item [15:45] <MrMcGonagall> I think Harry has kind of assumed the role of the knight errant. [15:45] <jade_and_diamond_fire> welcome, riefvly [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> very good Mr M [15:45] <nympheart> i don't think Hogwarts is a treasure item to LV [15:45] <JaneMarple9> Dumbledore's departure has made Hogwarts different and not as safe [15:45] <MrMcGonagall> He's not going to be tied to any one place. [15:45] <MrMcGonagall> Good points, Jane. [15:45] <nympheart> he never felt like he belonged at the orphanage where he was just like everyone else [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next P3 chat, here: http://www.leakylounge.com/forums.html#entry949739 [15:46] <MrMcGonagall> But he loved Hogwarts dearly. Remember Riddle in CoS? [15:46] <Expelliarmas> LV has no concept of "love" [15:46] <futureweasley> if Ginny, Ron and Hermione are at Hogwarts, then Harry will have a home there [15:46] * harryfreak359 is scared of the similiarity [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree FW [15:47] <harryfreak359> I agree FW too [15:47] <nympheart> Ron and Hermione won't be there [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> Expelliarmas, you're right, love isn't quite the right word. [15:47] <Expelliarmas> Harry will move on toward a better home, which he makes himself [15:47] <Val_Halla> He only "loved" Hogwarts as it related to himself [15:47] <fawkes28> i think so too mrmcg [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> coveted, is better [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, coveted is a better word [15:47] <Expelliarmas> Will Hogwarts be a factor in book 7? [15:47] <Aislinn> yes, coveted is a very good word for it [15:47] <jade_and_diamond_fire> coveted is a good word [15:47] <nympheart> yup [15:47] <JaneMarple9> Voldemort doesn't know the word "Love" exsists...he's frightened of it [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> YES!!!!! [15:47] <futureweasley> a huge factor... [15:47] <Val_Halla> LV was proud to be a descendant of 1 of the Founders [15:47] <fawkes28> yes, it will [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> Definitely. [15:48] <Expelliarmas> How so? [15:48] <Aislinn> Hogwarts will be as central a player in the 7th book as it has been in the other 6 [15:48] <futureweasley> Hogwarts is vital..,almost as important as the horcruxes themselves [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> it is as much of a character as he actual people [15:48] <MrMcGonagall> Right on, everybody1 [15:48] <MrMcGonagall> ! [15:48] <Val_Halla> I agree Sooner [15:48] <fawkes28> yes, sooner i agree [15:48] <JaneMarple9> Yes I think it will but not as much as the other books. Hermione willreturn there but as to Harry? [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant see it not being crucial in the 7th book [15:48] <Expelliarmas> Totally agree, Sooner [15:48] <Expelliarmas> for once [15:48] <futureweasley> lol Expie [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:48] <Aislinn> as spown said earlier, the whole series was structured around 7 years of school at Hogwarts [15:49] <JaneMarple9> smile [15:49] <futureweasley> she's so fun to disagree with though!! [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> [15:49] <MrMcGonagall> It's not just goito be the setting in which things happen, as it was in the past. [15:49] <MrMcGonagall> going to be* [15:49] <futureweasley> right MrMcG [15:49] <nympheart> i agree [15:49] <futureweasley> Hogwarts is where it's at! and it will continue to be [15:49] *** riefvly has quit [Bye] [15:50] <fawkes28> but when we are at hogwarts in this book, very important things will happen (i dont know yet) [15:50] <Islwyn13> I've gotta go...thanks for discussion, guys! *hugs* [15:50] <Aislinn> definitely, fawkes [15:50] <nympheart> bye [15:50] <harryfreak359> bye islwyn...! [15:50] <fawkes28> bye islwyn [15:50] <Aislinn> critical elements of the story will occur there [15:50] <futureweasley> thansks for coming Islwyn [15:50] <harryfreak359> see you in the study! [15:50] <Aislinn> bye islwyn [15:50] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, the castle itself is so important. Bye, Islwyn! [15:50] <JaneMarple9> By Islwyn smile [15:50] <fawkes28> yes so it will be just as powerful even if we are not there every chapter [15:50] *** Islwyn13 left #lounge [] [15:51] <harryfreak359> *still doesn't think Hogwarts will be open* [15:51] <futureweasley> I love that the castle holds mysteries untold...much like...well, everything [15:51] <nympheart> lol [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> really HF? [15:51] <harryfreak359> yeah [15:51] * futureweasley lightly smacks harryfreak on the back of the head [15:51] <jade_and_diamond_fire> yeah, i'm split on whether hogwarts will stay open as wel [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> have faith.... it will smile [15:51] <MrMcGonagall> I'm still not sure if it will be open for students or not, but we'll definitely be going back there. [15:51] <JaneMarple9> I think there are still secrets in the castle too [15:52] <Expelliarmas> So that brings us to this question: [15:52] <fawkes28> i actually agree, hf [15:52] <Expelliarmas> Hogwarts -- live or die? [15:52] <harryfreak359> it won't be open in the beginning, but at the end, after Harry defeats Voldemort, it will open again! [15:52] <nympheart> lol [15:52] <nympheart> live [15:52] <harryfreak359> half-die [15:52] <fawkes28> live [15:52] <futureweasley> live [15:52] <fawkes28> it has to [15:52] <Val_Halla> LIvelivelivelivelive [15:52] <JaneMarple9> biggrin strange question but Live! [15:52] <MrMcGonagall> Hogwarts - LIVE, LIVE LIVE! [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> LIVE [15:52] <JaneMarple9> "Half-Die" biggrin [15:52] <nympheart> in spirit at least, like DD [15:52] <harryfreak359> Half-Live! [15:52] <MrMcGonagall> Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death! [15:52] <harryfreak359> if you want to positive [15:53] <futureweasley> and if it dies, it will be going down in a blaze of glory! [15:53] <harryfreak359> biggrin [15:53] <jade_and_diamond_fire> what i found really interesting was the recent debate on MuggleCast about whether the school should stay open, both arguments were really good [15:53] <Aislinn> I seem to recall McGonagall saying that Dumbledore foresaw a time when the school would no longer be open. Does anybody else remember that line? [15:53] <Val_Halla> Would that make it mostly-dead? lol [15:53] <MrMcGonagall> Perhaps an opening feast. smile [15:53] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [15:53] <futureweasley> Hogwarts will not go down without a fight! [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M [15:53] <Expelliarmas> Die [15:53] <nympheart> I liked the close arguement on MC better, but i think it will be open [15:53] <harryfreak359> It won't be open in the beginning, but will reopen at the end [15:53] <fawkes28> no i dont aislinn but he very well may have [15:53] * SoonerGryffindor thinks that Expie said that just to disagree [15:53] <JaneMarple9> No Hogwarts will be taking students for eternity biggrin [15:53] <harryfreak359> lol [15:53] <fawkes28> lol [15:53] <harryfreak359> I think it will only die for awhile [15:54] * Expelliarmas thinks Hogwarts has outlived its usefulness [15:54] <nympheart> well, then it's not dead [15:54] <JaneMarple9> It will be accepting Harrys great-great- grandchildren...all with red hair smile biggrin [15:54] <Aislinn> there are still students who need to be taught expie [15:54] <Val_Halla> expelliarmus Expelliarmus! [15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> long live Hogwarts!!!!! [15:54] <futureweasley> yeah expie [15:54] <Expelliarmas> they can be homeschooled [15:54] <harryfreak359> is "coma" a choice? [15:54] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, it won't really die as in being destroyed, but it won't be in its finest hour. [15:54] <Aislinn> and I think Jo hinted that there is a student now who will be a teacher in the future [15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:54] * fawkes28 disagrees with expie [15:54] <Expelliarmas> Neville can find other employment [15:54] <futureweasley> Hogwarts, Hogwarts, Hoggy, Warty Hogwarts, teach us something, please? [15:55] <harryfreak359> woot homeshcooling! [15:55] <fawkes28> ahhhhhhhhhh [15:55] <Aislinn> now you're just being obstinate [15:55] <JaneMarple9> I'm thinking that student is either Hermione (obviously)...or Neville smile [15:55] <Aislinn> biggrin [15:55] <harryfreak359> ohhhhh sorry fawkes [15:55] <harryfreak359> no I am homschooled that's why! [15:55] <MrMcGonagall> No, Hermione will be Minister of Magic one day. [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> hahahaha [15:55] <Expelliarmas> Hermione will be busy freeing Elves [15:55] <futureweasley> homeschooling for wizards is just cruel...no practical practice or "lab" time... [15:55] <nympheart> i like Neville, personally, or Luna if she lives [15:55] <MrMcGonagall> It's Neville. [15:55] <harryfreak359> I like hogwarts [15:55] <jade_and_diamond_fire> fawkes28, public school rocks! [15:55] <futureweasley> no learning from students who might be very well smarter than your parents [15:55] <nympheart> public school does rock [15:56] <JaneMarple9> I think Hermione's a future Hogwarts head smile [15:56] <fawkes28> i teach in public school but i think homeschooling is good as well [15:56] <SoonerGryffindor> nah, irst female MoM [15:56] <futureweasley> I've thought that for quite a while, too, Jane [15:56] <harryfreak359> there has already been a female MoM sooner [15:56] <SoonerGryffindor> really? [15:56] <Aislinn> I think that Neville will teach at Hogwarts - and that he will teach Ginny and Harry's kids, as well as Ron and Hermione's smile [15:56] <MrMcGonagall> no, she wouldn't be the first. There was at least one - Milllicent Bagnold preceded Fudge. [15:56] <JaneMarple9> Neville teaching Herbology or DADA [15:56] <harryfreak359> biggrin [15:56] <harryfreak359> yeah [15:57] <nympheart> how about Hermione as Elf Rights Protection Head of Office? [15:57] <MrMcGonagall> Yep! [15:57] <harryfreak359> who was MoM before Fudge, wasn't it a female? [15:57] <jade_and_diamond_fire> she needs to give up on SPEW [15:57] <harryfreak359> yeah [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> cool [15:57] <JaneMarple9> but not Potions biggrin [15:57] <futureweasley> Aislinn is a hopeful romantic!! [15:57] <futureweasley> awwwww [15:57] <harryfreak359> lol [15:57] <Expelliarmas> Neville will teach them about rememberalls, passwords, brooms ... [15:57] <harryfreak359> I hope so too Aislinn [15:57] <nympheart> lol [15:57] <fawkes28> lol [15:57] <MrMcGonagall> Neville is totally going to be the the Herbology professor. [15:57] <harryfreak359> yeah [15:58] <Aislinn> yes, yes I am smile [15:58] <JaneMarple9> Neville's probably been scarred for life, from potions smile [15:58] <futureweasley> Neville should have no access to impressionavle minds where passwords and brooms are concerned [15:58] <Expelliarmas> can he blow up anything in the greenhouses? [15:58] <harryfreak359> haha, meaning he won't be potion master [15:58] <MrMcGonagall> No, that's why he'll be there! [15:58] <fawkes28> neville would be a great teacher [15:58] <harryfreak359> yeah, probably would [15:58] <jade_and_diamond_fire> yes, he would [15:58] <fawkes28> leave him alone [15:58] <JaneMarple9> He will (not would!) [15:58] <Expelliarmas> Neville for DADA teacher! [15:58] <MrMcGonagall> He can show us what not to do with Mimbulus Mimbletonia. [15:58] <harryfreak359> with something he knows that he is good at [15:59] <fawkes28> yes [15:59] <harryfreak359> has there been a chat about Neville? [15:59] <fawkes28> not potions [15:59] <Val_Halla> I thought Neville would be a Healer except he's so dismal at potions [15:59] * futureweasley loves Neville, but thinks he would teach like Quirrell or Binns [15:59] <JaneMarple9> He'll learn a lot from Harry about DADA [15:59] <jade_and_diamond_fire> i always wanted to see Mimbulus Mimbletonia vs Bellatrix [15:59] <harryfreak359> Quirrel?!!!! [15:59] * fawkes28 thinks that futureweasley is wrong [15:59] <MrMcGonagall> It has impressive defensive mechanisms. [15:59] <harryfreak359> Meaning he'lll have LV in the back of his head [15:59] <jade_and_diamond_fire> Quirrel's teaching wasn't the problem, tho [15:59] <futureweasley> love you anyway, fawkes!! [15:59] <JaneMarple9> Nah Neville would teach like Lupin smile [16:00] <fawkes28> sometimes love you too [16:00] <harryfreak359> yeah [16:00] <harryfreak359> that's better [16:00] <fawkes28> [16:00] <futureweasley> lol [16:00] <harryfreak359> lol [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> okay guys. Time is up so its time for the big group hug [16:00] *** nympheart has quit [Bye] [16:00] * harryfreak359 joins group hug [16:00] <futureweasley> it's been a great chat today everyone! thanks for coming [16:00] <JaneMarple9> Group hug!!!!!!!!! [16:00] <jade_and_diamond_fire> *hugs* [16:00] <MrMcGonagall> Hugs for everybody! [16:00] <Aislinn> hope to see you all here for the next chat [16:00] * fawkes28 joins the group hug [16:00] <futureweasley> *huggles* [16:00] <Val_Halla> *hugs* [16:00] <Aislinn> don't forget to vot inn the polls! [16:00] <JaneMarple9> Great chat and sorry if I went off topic smile [16:00] <harryfreak359> I was a bit preoccupied, so I didn't join in too much [16:00] <Aislinn> or vote in them smile [16:01] <harryfreak359> but I read most of it [16:01] <futureweasley> knocks everyone over and starts a dogpile [16:01] <fawkes28> thanks for the great chat mods smile [16:01] <harryfreak359> lol aislinn [16:01] <jade_and_diamond_fire> time to go do my 8 hrs of hw for AP Bio sad [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> ys, rock thevote! [16:01] <futureweasley> good luck jade [16:01] <JaneMarple9> already voted biggrin [16:01] <jade_and_diamond_fire> thanx [16:01] <harryfreak359> bye guys!!!!! See most of you in the kitchen!! [16:01] <futureweasley> don't let the mods rig the polls...get in there and VOTE! [16:01] <Aislinn> good Jane! [16:01] <harryfreak359> I always vote biggrin [16:01] <MrMcGonagall> I still have to finish my chapters for the week. Bye! [16:01] <jade_and_diamond_fire> see u in the Study! [16:01] <Aislinn> bye everyone smile [16:01] <fawkes28> in the kitchen smile [16:01] <fawkes28> me too [16:01] <Val_Halla> Cheers, everyone! [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> bye all smile [16:01] <futureweasley> see you all!! [16:02] <harryfreak359> bye all! [16:02] <futureweasley> buh-bye [16:02] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [16:02] <jade_and_diamond_fire> adios! [16:02] <fawkes28> bye bye [16:02] <JaneMarple9> Take care everybody till next Sunday!! [16:02] *** jade_and_diamond_fire left #lounge [] [16:02] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [16:02] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [16:02] <MrMcGonagall> Bye! [16:02] <SoonerGryffindor> c ya Mr M [16:02] *** MrMcGonagall has quit [Bye] [16:03] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [16:03] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [16:03] <Expelliarmas> Thanks for the chat, bye everyone -------------------- |
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