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[15:02] <danae24> Hi!
[15:02] <SoonerGryffindor> hey danae
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[15:02] <Poet> Nice avatar danae
[15:02] <danae24> Hi sooner!
[15:02] <danae24> thanks!
[15:02] <Sofie> hello!
[15:02] <danae24> Hi Sofie!
[15:02] <SoonerGryffindor> hey sofie
[15:02] <fawkes28> hello danae and sofie
[15:02] <Sofie> congrats danae smile
[15:02] <danae24> Hi fawkes!
[15:02] <danae24> Thanks Sofie!
[15:02] <Poet> I was using danae's avatar yesterday, but am wearing my PotterCast elf one today
[15:03] * danae24 is blushing terribly
[15:03] <SoonerGryffindor> oh yes! Nice work danae
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[15:03] <Sofie> hey kimmy!
[15:03] <danae24> Hi Kimmy!!!
[15:03] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Kimmy
[15:03] * Poet fangirls Kimmy
[15:03] <KimmyBlair> this chat hates me...
[15:03] <KimmyBlair> i swear
[15:03] <fawkes28> hello kimmy
[15:03] <KimmyBlair> HI!
[15:03] <KimmyBlair> AWWWW
[15:03] * KimmyBlair fangirls poet
[15:03] <Poet> It hates us all
[15:03] <SoonerGryffindor> I feel your pain Kimmy
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[15:03] <KimmyBlair> it's like...
[15:04] <KimmyBlair> lets see how many times I can kick you out
[15:04] <Poet> aww
[15:04] <KimmyBlair> luckily I have a big kit kat to ease my pain
[15:04] <SoonerGryffindor> it just doesnt want to let me in most of the time laugh
[15:04] <danae24> yes....... it does play "lets get all the lounger out the chat"
[15:04] <Sofie> yes, sometimes its quite evil
[15:04] <harryfreak359> Hello everyone!
[15:04] <SoonerGryffindor> like, let's not let the mods in
[15:04] <danae24> Hi harryfreak!
[15:04] <Sofie> hey!
[15:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hey hf
[15:04] <fawkes28> hi hf!
[15:04] * Poet passes out Dairy Milk
[15:04] <harryfreak359> smile
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[15:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Mr M
[15:04] * danae24 grabs a dairy milk
[15:04] <harryfreak359> Complaining about the server?
[15:04] <Sofie> hey MrM!
[15:04] <KimmyBlair> yes
[15:05] <Poet> Hi MrMcG!
[15:05] <KimmyBlair> snuffles does not lov eme
[15:05] <harryfreak359> hi MrMCG!
[15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> we'll see if that makes snuffles happy
[15:05] <Sofie> hehe
[15:05] <harryfreak359> I don't snuffles likes me either
[15:05] <fawkes28> hehe
[15:05] <Poet> hmm
[15:05] <Sofie> lets spoil snuffles!
[15:05] <Poet> So the saga continues
[15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Poet
[15:05] <KimmyBlair> and i just got choclolate on my keyboard...
[15:05] <KimmyBlair> sigh
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[15:06] <Sofie> hey skip!
[15:06] <fawkes28> hello skip
[15:06] <Skiplives> Hi all
[15:06] <harryfreak359> hi skip!
[15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome skip
[15:06] <Poet> Howdy Skiplives
[15:06] <fawkes28> hello mr. m - just saw you smile
[15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Kimmy, just lick the keyboard, it will be all right
[15:06] <harryfreak359> LOL
[15:06] <Sofie> lol
[15:06] <KimmyBlair> hahaha
[15:06] <harryfreak359> I have pizza on my keyboard
[15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:06] * Poet says a little "woot" in honor of fawkes28
[15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> hahahaha
[15:06] <Sofie> i dont wanna know whats on my keyboard
[15:06] <KimmyBlair> i want pizza!
[15:06] <danae24> woot!
[15:06] <harryfreak359> lol
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[15:06] <fawkes28> woo hoo!
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[15:07] <Poet> See what I started....
[15:07] <fawkes28> hello theoriser!
[15:07] <KimmyBlair> hahaha
[15:07] <danae24> I have smarties on my keyboard
[15:07] <harryfreak359> hi theoriser
[15:07] <KimmyBlair> hi!
[15:07] <Sofie> hey hannah!
[15:07] <fawkes28> shame on you
[15:07] <Poet> Yay - Theoriser got in!
[15:07] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> mmmm, chocolate, pizza and smarties
[15:07] <danae24> Hi theoriser!
[15:07] * KimmyBlair looks around her work to see if anyone is looking
[15:07] <Skiplives> lol
[15:07] <KimmyBlair> wow... WAY TO BE DELAYED SNUFFLES
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[15:07] <harryfreak359> what a good combination of food
[15:07] <Sofie> do it fast kimmy!
[15:07] <KimmyBlair> i typed that a good hour ago
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[15:07] <harryfreak359> LOL
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:08] <Skiplives> yeah there is a little lag here too
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> looks like Mr M is having troubles as well
[15:08] <harryfreak359> aww Snuffles....
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> we are all lagging
[15:08] <danae24> Yes, chocolate is good, pizza is good, smarties are good............. everything's good!!!!
[15:08] * Poet wonders if its time for Thanksgiving yet
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[15:08] <Sofie> im not....
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:08] * danae24 hates lag..........
[15:08] <harryfreak359> I am not having any problems at all....the world must be ending
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> so is salsa and waffles laugh
[15:08] <Poet> sheesh
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol hf
[15:08] <danae24> Salsa!!! and chips!!!!
[15:08] <fawkes28> maybe it has something to do with that pizza, hf
[15:08] <harryfreak359> Yum Sooner!
[15:08] <Poet> so is Snape, Snape is good
[15:08] <fawkes28> you should eat it all the time!
[15:08] <danae24> Pizza with salsa!!!
[15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, and Harry is good..... but.......
[15:08] <Poet> eww
[15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> they are not all good together
[15:09] <harryfreak359> I never really tried salsa with waffles....but I'd give it a try
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[15:09] <Poet> Never together. I'm out of waffles at the moment actually
[15:09] <danae24> it's not bad!!! you cant say you dont like it until you tried it............
[15:09] <KimmyBlair> you guys are making me hungry! cut it out!
[15:09] <Poet> Don't harryfreak359 (coughs violently)
[15:09] <danae24> i'm talking about pizza and salsa, not waffles and salsa
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[15:09] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:09] <Sofie> pizza is delicious with everything...
[15:09] <harryfreak359> Poet, you wouldn't do well in my family!
[15:09] <harryfreak359> laugh
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[15:10] <harryfreak359> they like the weirdest things
[15:10] <fawkes28> so did everyone have a nice day??
[15:10] <Poet> hey again Skip
[15:10] <Skiplives> Poor Snuffles has the sniffles
[15:10] <danae24> I did!
[15:10] <Poet> He caught John's strep
[15:10] <harryfreak359> um so far!
[15:10] <Skiplives> has anyone tried Carmel Sutra Ice Cream?
[15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> this might be an interesting chat if we cant all stay on it or type
[15:10] <danae24> I'm just hanging out in my home!!!
[15:10] <Poet> And Meliss' computer trouble
[15:10] <MrMcGonagall> I had strange difficulties logging in.
[15:10] <Sofie> i did fawkes....even thought it was really cold outside...i was freezing
[15:10] <Poet> I have Skip
[15:10] <KimmyBlair> that sounds like ben and jerrys
[15:10] <Poet> It's my favorite
[15:10] <Skiplives> heaven
[15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I had the most horrible time as well Mr M
[15:10] <fawkes28> awe sofie sorry to hear it is actually warm here in the 60s
[15:11] * harryfreak359 must have given everyone else her computer problems
[15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> its 75 here smile
[15:11] <harryfreak359> 75 here too
[15:11] <MrMcGonagall> Seems fine now, though. No signs of lag.
[15:11] <Skiplives> Because we had a baby, our friends are taking turns bringing over dinner
[15:11] <fawkes28> it is going to be 75 here tomorrow
[15:11] <Poet> nice
[15:11] <MrMcGonagall> It's going to be cold in Oklahoma tomorrow, though, Sooner!
[15:11] <KimmyBlair> it's actually not bad here... in the low 60s
[15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> woot for not having to cook
[15:11] <MrMcGonagall> Brrr!!
[15:11] <Skiplives> and one brought that stuff over
[15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> oh no!
[15:11] <Sofie> it was 6 C here sad
[15:11] <danae24> awwwwwwwwwwwww....... Skiplives, how old is the baby???
[15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> but I dont want cold
[15:11] * harryfreak359 wants it to get colder
[15:11] <Skiplives> 25 days
[15:11] <Poet> We need a Corner Booth live from Oklahoma
[15:11] <danae24> awwwwwwwwww!!
[15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:11] * fawkes28 does not want it to get colder
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[15:12] * Sofie loves babies
[15:12] <Skiplives> yep, he's great
[15:12] <Poet> I'd come down. We could discuss how much we love Snape.
[15:12] * KimmyBlair loves choclate
[15:12] <MrMcGonagall> Well, cold for Oklahoma - Tulsa has a high of 54 degrees for tomorrow. But when today was close to 80 . . .
[15:12] * danae24 wants to get halloween candies
[15:12] <harryfreak359> wow
[15:12] * SoonerGryffindor loves babies but is really glad not to have a newborn keeping her up all the time
[15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Poet
[15:12] <Poet> wow - 80
[15:12] <KimmyBlair> i have a 4 year old (nephew) keeping me up
[15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> we could definitely talk some Snape
[15:12] <fawkes28> poet, i'd join in a convo about loving snape smile
[15:12] <Sofie> yes! talk about snape!
[15:12] <KimmyBlair> he woke me up with the 8 o clock song this morning
[15:12] <Skiplives> amen - I do the 11 and 6 AM feedings
[15:13] <harryfreak359> yes Snape!
[15:13] <fawkes28> woo hoo for snape!
[15:13] <Poet> What is the 8:00 song?
[15:13] <Skiplives> eh Snape
[15:13] <KimmyBlair> hahah
[15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:13] <KimmyBlair> "it's 8:00... its 8:00... auntie kimmy get up... it's 8:00"
[15:13] <Skiplives> lol
[15:13] <KimmyBlair> i think he made it up as he went along
[15:13] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:13] <Poet> Sounds like a hit
[15:13] <KimmyBlair> but that's just a guess
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[15:14] <danae24> I get that with my 7 year's old sister..............
[15:14] <Skiplives> My five year old will just pop me on the head if I'm not paying attention (sleeping)
[15:14] <Sofie> lol
[15:14] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:14] <harryfreak359> nice
[15:14] <KimmyBlair> hahaha
[15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> oh, I remember those days
[15:14] <Poet> I had a cat when I was little that would come to my bedroom window and meow at me - just like a rooster - a certain time every day
[15:14] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:14] <Skiplives> I miss sleeping in
[15:14] <Sofie> hehe
[15:14] <danae24> she's like........ " Danae, wake up........ it's 8 am........... I want to see a DVD.........."
[15:14] <MrMcGonagall> My mom used to come into our room and sing.
[15:15] <Poet> My mom accidentally ran him over on Halloween day, and he died. I cried every Halloween for the next couple years after that.
[15:15] <Sofie> :(
[15:15] <Skiplives> awwww
[15:15] <danae24> awwwwwwwwww sad
[15:15] <Sofie> my cat run away
[15:15] <Skiplives> cats will do that
[15:15] <SoonerGryffindor> that's a horrible story Poet
[15:15] <Sofie> it was ages agou though
[15:15] <danae24> I cant have cats in my house, dad's allergic to them
[15:15] <harryfreak359> that's sad Poet
[15:15] <KimmyBlair> my cat is just fine...
[15:15] * SoonerGryffindor is sad now
[15:16] <Skiplives> I have three boys, no cats for the sake of the cats
[15:16] <harryfreak359> my dad hates cats for some reason
[15:16] <KimmyBlair> be happy!
[15:16] <KimmyBlair> this pottercast discussed snape!
[15:16] <Sofie> lets talk about snape then, it will cheer you up SG!
[15:16] <KimmyBlair> that's happy!
[15:16] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Skip
[15:16] * danae24 gives out chocolate just like Lupin
[15:16] <SoonerGryffindor> yay for Snape
[15:16] <harryfreak359> lol
[15:16] <harryfreak359> whoo Snape!
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[15:16] <Skiplives> Woohoo Chocolate
[15:16] <harryfreak359> and chocolate!
[15:16] <MrMcGonagall> I almost thought of being Snape for Halloween, but I would have had to run out to get a greasy black wig.
[15:17] <Sofie> hehe
[15:17] <danae24> this are the 3 best things in the world......... Corner Booth chat, Snape talk and chocolate
[15:17] <SoonerGryffindor> okay guys we are getting started now
[15:17] <Sofie> i agree
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[15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat!
[15:18] <fawkes28> It's the John and Sue show, everybody! Melissa can't make it for this show, but don't worry, John and Sue can handle things on their own.
[15:18] <fawkes28> David Yates has said that they've shot probably over 3 hours of material, but will have to lose 45 minutes in the editing. Does this sound like good news or bad news for the fifth film?

[15:18] <KimmyBlair> well....
[15:18] <KimmyBlair> badnews?
[15:18] <Sofie> i dont think we should already start to panic...
[15:19] <MrMcGonagall> I would take all I can get, but I can understand the need to get it down to a more reasonable length.
[15:19] <Poet> I'm hoping he can't bring himself to cut that much.
[15:19] <Skiplives> neither, directors always shoot more than they need
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[15:19] <KimmyBlair> see because all along we've been hearing about all the stuff they have filmed... which we are really excited about
[15:19] <danae24> It's good......, because it means that 2 hours and 15 minutes are good!!! and since they havent finished filming, it's going to be a long picture!!!!
[15:19] <KimmyBlair> but being that the film is so long i'm afraid what will be cut
[15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> sounds like he might use this as an argument to have a longer film
[15:19] <fawkes28> i don't want them to cut out anything that i like
[15:19] <yellowpepper2311> howdy!
[15:19] <Sofie> and Kloves isnt around this time....
[15:19] <Sofie> hey erna!
[15:19] <Poet> Too true. I hate to see pictures for stuff and then it doen't show up in the film sad
[15:19] <danae24> Yes!!! no Kloves!
[15:19] <MrMcGonagall> Let's negotiate . . . we'll suggest a fifteen minute cut and then compromise at thirty minutes.
[15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I mean, stuff like this has not been public before, so maybe they are hoping us fans will raise a fuss
[15:19] <fawkes28> so many things already have been cut...we don't need anymore sad
[15:19] <yellowpepper2311> *waves at sofie*
[15:20] <MrMcGonagall> I have a good feeling about Movie 5.
[15:20] <Sofie> i dont think the length of the film depends on Yates though
[15:20] <fawkes28> hello yellowpepper
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[15:20] <Skiplives> you'd be surprised how removing the pauses at the beginning and end of each scene saves
[15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I guess even if they do end up cutting 45 minutes, at least we know it has been filmed and may get it in some form'
[15:20] <yellowpepper2311> hey fawkes
[15:20] <danae24> Usually, while you make a movie, you film more than you need, so, you end up with a lot of things that you wont be able to use.........
[15:20] <MrMcGonagall> Hooray for deleted scenes on DVD!
[15:20] <fawkes28> woo hoo!
[15:20] <danae24> Yes!!!
[15:20] <Sofie> id love to have a 3hours long movie
[15:21] <fawkes28> i could go for even longer, sofie
[15:21] <harryfreak359> I have a better feeling about the movie...but I am not sure about it yet
[15:21] <Skiplives> agreed, though many times you just see why the scene was deleted
[15:21] <MrMcGonagall> I've sat through considerably worse movies for three hours.
[15:21] <harryfreak359> I wish it was longer thougrh
[15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I still think that maybe with this news leaking out so early, there's a good chance we could lobby for a longer movie
[15:21] <Sofie> titanic felt it was like 5 hours long
[15:21] <Skiplives> WB is making a mass market movie, so three hours is a no go for them
[15:21] <Poet> I agree when the director indicated that though the book is long, it distills down well.
[15:21] <Theoriser> I think it will be good whether they cut the extra 45 minutes or not, but you have to remember that usually things are cut for a reason, and the film may not be better with them in
[15:22] <yellowpepper2311> good point
[15:22] <KimmyBlair> good poitn theoriser
[15:22] <Sofie> but ppl will see it regardless of its length. it harry potter!
[15:22] <Poet> Many of the scenes are long due to Harry or others arguing or stuttering, etc
[15:22] <Skiplives> This is the kind of thing Terry Gilliam was talking about when he called the films "factory jobs"
[15:22] <fawkes28> Do you think that an extended DVD, with all the cut scenes included, is a possibility?
[15:22] <KimmyBlair> yes!
[15:22] <Sofie> i hope so
[15:22] <yellowpepper2311> yep
[15:22] <MrMcGonagall> Not all the cut scenes, but certainly some.
[15:22] <KimmyBlair> nything which makes money is a possibility
[15:22] <Skiplives> of course
[15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> This is so what I am hoping for in the long run
[15:22] <harryfreak359> I hope so!
[15:23] <Poet> I wish there was an option to see the scence within the movie. I doubt they'll release it any time soon though
[15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I also hope they end up doing this with the first 4 movies
[15:23] <Poet> Perhaps when the movie are computer
[15:23] <fawkes28> me after all the movies are made
[15:23] <Theoriser> they might do this after the seventh film
[15:23] <fawkes28> *maybe
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[15:23] <Poet> *complete
[15:23] <Sofie> they should release them online.....[/daydream]
[15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome ph
[15:23] <Skiplives> After the seventh I'm sure we'll see a collectors addition with more scenes and maybe even a commentary
[15:23] <ph63915> hi
[15:23] <KimmyBlair> that's what I think THeoriser...
[15:23] <fawkes28> that would be nice skip
[15:23] <Poet> I agree Skip
[15:23] <Sofie> Jo should do the commentary
[15:23] <KimmyBlair> sorta like what they did with the Lord Of the RIngs
[15:23] <Skiplives> one can hope
[15:23] <Skiplives> yes
[15:23] <Theoriser> yeah
[15:24] <fawkes28> i would love that, sofie
[15:24] <Poet> Sofie - I'd pay a lot of money for a Jo commentary
[15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that would be a great idea
[15:24] <yellowpepper2311> hahaha that'd be awesome, sofie
[15:24] <MrMcGonagall> I completely understand why things need to be left out of a film for length, but I always expect fidelity to the meaning and mood of the text.
[15:24] <Skiplives> or maybe Criterion will get ahold of the rights (one can hope)
[15:24] <fawkes28> Have you seen the pictures of Harry and Arthur in the muggle clothing in London?
[15:24] <KimmyBlair> yes!
[15:24] <Sofie> they are awesome!
[15:24] <Skiplives> yes
[15:25] <KimmyBlair> Harry's hair looks WAY to neat...
[15:25] <KimmyBlair> to much gel
[15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I love the look they both have
[15:25] <yellowpepper2311> indeed
[15:25] <Poet> I loved their jackets
[15:25] <Sofie> i think they looks both ok
[15:25] <Sofie> cant type, sorry
[15:25] <MrMcGonagall> The hair is very different.
[15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> but in a way, I like the neatness of his hair because it shows that he is trying to look nice for his trial
[15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I know its not canon
[15:25] * yellowpepper2311 congrats danae for winning the blog challenge
[15:25] <KimmyBlair> but the point of Harry is his hari CAN'T be neat...
[15:25] <Poet> They looked very conservative, but neat in appearance. That is something we've never seen with Harry before.
[15:26] <Skiplives> only because he doesn't let it get neat
[15:26] <KimmyBlair> granted i'm still upset that Hermione wore Pink to the Yule ball instead of blue...
[15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I know Kimmy, but for some reason it looks cool
[15:26] <MrMcGonagall> True - it alwayss struck me in the book that he's at his trial in a t-shirt and jeans.
[15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:26] <Skiplives> he would for Mrs. Weasley
[15:26] <Sofie> it seems like the hair is longer
[15:26] <fawkes28> it'll never be perfect but we always hope it will smile
[15:26] <Poet> Too true, despite Mrs. Weasley's attempts in the book, she was not able to get his hair to lie flat
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[15:26] <Theoriser> yes, I saw them!
[15:26] <Theoriser> lol
[15:26] <Theoriser> I remember in the book Mrs weasley trying to make his hair stay neat
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[15:26] <fawkes28> hello TAD
[15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, aside from his hair, what did you think about his outfit?
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[15:26] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hello everyone
[15:26] <danae24> brb guys..........
[15:26] <Sofie> hey!
[15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> hey TAD
[15:26] <KimmyBlair> that's what i remeber Poet/theoriser
[15:27] <yellowpepper2311> hello!
[15:27] <Poet> Very unHarry like, which is kind of cool.
[15:27] <Sofie> yes
[15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was interesting that they dressed him up so much
[15:27] <MrMcGonagall> Me, too, Sooner.
[15:27] <Poet> Right - where did they get such Muggle clothes?
[15:27] <Sofie> thank god he didnt wear a tie
[15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I mean, where was he supposed to get the clothes from?
[15:27] <Poet> I agree Sofie, that would have been a bit much
[15:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I don't see the whole "Clark Kent" thing personally
[15:27] <Skiplives> Oh, a wide 1970s tie would have been perfect
[15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I actually did TAD
[15:27] <KimmyBlair> i also wonder where Harry got the glothes...
[15:28] <Sofie> lol
[15:28] <yellowpepper2311> eew
[15:28] <Poet> It's the way the hair is combed so smooth and sleek
[15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> yes
[15:28] * Sofie doesnt like the superman movies
[15:28] <MrMcGonagall> Harry doesn't have a very extensive wardrobe in the books.
[15:28] <Poet> ...sweeping
[15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> that and the blazer gave him the look. And the glasses
[15:28] <KimmyBlair> it seems to me that Harry doesn't wear big enough clothes in the movies...
[15:28] <Poet> I see....the blazer does say 1970's a bit.
[15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:28] <fawkes28> Rupert Grint has been in America promoting his new film, "Driving Lessons", and giving lots of video interviews. He's said that he is planning to come back for films six and seven. What do you think of this?
[15:29] <Sofie> maybe he got it from somebody
[15:29] <KimmyBlair> after re-reading the begining of GOF Harry talks abotu how big all of his clothers are... you never see that in the movies
[15:29] <MrMcGonagall> I hope they're all back.
[15:29] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I love Rupert! Good for him.
[15:29] <KimmyBlair> me too
[15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I love it
[15:29] <Sofie> im sure they will be all back
[15:29] <yellowpepper2311> me too
[15:29] <Poet> He better be coming back.
[15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that once you get to movie six out of severn, you might as well just finish it
[15:29] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Poet would track him down...
[15:29] <fawkes28> i am glad and it's nice that he has gotten a chance to do a different movie too
[15:29] <yellowpepper2311> they all have to come back ... otherwise I get grumpy ...
[15:29] <Poet> Maybe it's too hard to explain why if he had money, why he'd not buy new clothes.
[15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think the whole fandom would track him down
[15:29] <MrMcGonagall> With all the different directors we've had, I'd at least like some consistency in the films . . .
[15:29] <Sofie> money is not an option and they all like doing it, so i dont see why they shouldnt continue
[15:30] <Theoriser> hi TAD
[15:30] <Theoriser> lol
[15:30] <Theoriser> I'm glad he's willing to come back
[15:30] <Skiplives> Ron gets lovin' in book 6 and hopefully gets to do something useful in book 7 - of course he's coming back
[15:30] <KimmyBlair> i think it is important to have all the same actors for all 7 movies
[15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Skip
[15:30] <MrMcGonagall> He's finally coming into own, Skip!
[15:30] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hi Theoriser... Questions, has Rupert decided that acting is going to be his major career from here on out... I haven't read or heard anything about this
[15:30] <fawkes28> i completely agree, kimmy
[15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> well, even little things like the trolley lady and the fat lady being different bug me, so they better come back!
[15:31] <fawkes28> it wouldnt be the same without any of the original trio
[15:31] <Sofie> they fandom will be after them if they didnt come back
[15:31] <MrMcGonagall> lol, Sooner!
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[15:31] <Poet> Alfie, who plays Dean Thomas has grown a lot. Hopefully one of the trio won't grow so tall that it's hard to shoot their scenes together.
[15:31] <fawkes28> hello islwyn
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[15:31] <MrMcGonagall> I was shocked to read that Dan Radcliffe is so short.
[15:31] <MrMcGonagall> 5'3"
[15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Poet, but Harry is supposed to grow a lot before his 6th year, so if he does then I guess its okay
[15:31] <Theoriser> hehe he's still taller than me
[15:31] <Skiplives> all actors are short - except for very few
[15:32] <Poet> Dan is also the youngest of the three in real life as well.
[15:32] <Sofie> i care more about the fact that his eyes arent green...
[15:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Dan is stockier than how imagined Harry...hm...
[15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> no, Emma is the youngest
[15:32] <Poet> Oh?
[15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> yes
[15:32] <Theoriser> it doesn't matter so much to me their height
[15:32] <Sofie> emma is 16
[15:32] <KimmyBlair> Me either...
[15:32] <Skiplives> Actually I never pictured Harry as very tall - Ron is supposed to be bigger than teh twins
[15:32] <fawkes28> true, theoriser it is how they play the character
[15:32] <Theoriser> and I think dan and rupert will get taller anyway
[15:32] <fawkes28> New video for an old interview with JKR is now in Leaky's galleries. Has anybody watched it yet? What did you think of it?
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> me niether, but I guess what I am saying is that if one of them suddenly shoots up, its okay because that happened in canon
[15:33] <MrMcGonagall> I saw the original on TV, so I haven't looked it up.
[15:33] <Sofie> i havent watched it yet
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I hve not watched it yet
[15:33] <Theoriser> I haven't watched it yet either
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> but I plan to
[15:33] <Skiplives> me too MrMcG
[15:33] <Poet> I haven't, though John's suggestion that at certain times of day you can see the notebooks better - sure did peak my interest smile
[15:33] <Sofie> lol
[15:33] <yellowpepper2311> haven't yet
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:33] <KimmyBlair> YOU SHOULD! the galleries are spectacular
[15:33] <Skiplives> blatant plug
[15:33] <TheAzkabanDietitian> haven't seen it yet, i've been busy... and forgetful
[15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, the galleries rock!!!!
[15:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the galleries are so HUGE... i feel so small compared to them
[15:34] <yellowpepper2311> yep, the galleries rock *own experience*
[15:34] <Skiplives> I'm surprised he didn't claim that clicking on the ads opens a notebook
[15:34] <Theoriser> I love the video galleries biggrin
[15:34] <fawkes28> they do an awesome job - i could not do it
[15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Skip
[15:34] <Poet> I love the galleries, though I haven't spent much time in the video section. I've seen a lot of the other sections.
[15:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I was just thinking today about all the encoding that goes into Leaky.... Whew!
[15:34] <Sofie> lol skip
[15:34] <Skiplives> not fun to think about TAD
[15:35] <Sofie> must be tiresome TAD
[15:35] <fawkes28> The fan interview was with forum member SillyPutty/Varza, and discussed arithmancy, a Greek form of divination by numbers. Hermione thinks divination is rubbish, but arithmancy is one of her favourite subjects.
[15:35] <MrMcGonagall> It's all a mystery to me.
[15:35] <fawkes28> Do you think that Hermione's preference of arithmancy over divination shows the reader more about her character?
[15:35] <yellowpepper2311> definitely
[15:35] <Skiplives> yes
[15:35] <Sofie> yep
[15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I never knew all of that about before I listened to the fan interview
[15:35] <MrMcGonagall> I think there's something more definite and logical about arithmancy that appeals to Hermione.
[15:35] <KimmyBlair> she likes solid hard facts that you can see in 3-D
[15:35] <KimmyBlair> me either Sooner!
[15:35] <yellowpepper2311> she's the more logic type of character
[15:36] <KimmyBlair> I tried to get Varza in here because she has TONS of knowledge about that stuff...
[15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I like it that it fits her chaacter
[15:36] <KimmyBlair> but she had to work..
[15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> too bad Kimmy
[15:36] <Poet> She loves numbers for one. Each "problem" comes to a nice exact number. I can see why she'd like that.
[15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> that would have been cool
[15:36] <Sofie> i /me hates numbers
[15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> but don't you still have to interpret the data?
[15:36] <fawkes28> yes there is no mystery like divination
[15:36] <MrMcGonagall> Me, too, Sofie.
[15:36] <Theoriser> I like the line where she says divination is rubbish - arithmancy is much better, even though it is a branch of divination
[15:36] <yellowpepper2311> yeah, me too sofie
[15:37] <Skiplives> at some point looking for answers in just one source becomes a little "Foucault's Pendulum" to me
[15:37] <KimmyBlair> hah yeah i foudn that odd theoriser
[15:37] <Sofie> i never knew that arithmancy and nummerology were basically the same
[15:37] <TheAzkabanDietitian> My calculus teacher told me the other day that the math system used before our currect one was proven to be wrong.. and now we are just using a system that has yet to be disproven, so perhaps Arithmancy is different than regular mathemmatics? Perhaps the perfet system...
[15:37] <Poet> But I wonder why she'd put more stock in the meaning of certain numbers - since it's still a bit like divining info
[15:37] <MrMcGonagall> I think there is some mystery to it, but it's not as "wooly" as divination. Anyone can do Arithmancy if you work at it.
[15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea, but it has given me something to think about
[15:37] <Poet> true MrMcGonagall
[15:37] <fawkes28> Harry and Neville both have the same destiny numer and character numbers. Do you think that Jo did this consciously?
[15:37] <Theoriser> yes, it's facts and figures, not theories, that's why she likes it
[15:37] <Sofie> i couldnt Mr M :P
[15:38] <Skiplives> If she didn't it does work out well for her
[15:38] <yellowpepper2311> dunno
[15:38] <Sofie> no idea
[15:38] <Theoriser> if she didn't, that's a nice coincidence
[15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> it makes me wonder now
[15:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> what are those?
[15:38] <fawkes28> i don't know but i think it is very interesting
[15:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> so sorry
[15:38] <KimmyBlair> I don't think she did... as we all know maths are not her strong suit
[15:38] <yellowpepper2311> but she's really good at stuff like that, so who knows ...
[15:38] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think that she was necessarily thinking in terms of arithmancy when she did it.
[15:38] <Theoriser> lol Kimmy
[15:38] <fawkes28> she very well may have figured that part out because of the prophecy and all
[15:38] * Sofie agrees with Jo....maths are evil
[15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> if it was an accident, then its a weird coincidence
[15:39] <Skiplives> especially the destiny number
[15:39] <KimmyBlair> i agree sooner
[15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Jo gets her ideas fromm lots of different sources
[15:39] <fawkes28> Varza talks about how 3 and 4 are important numbers in numerology and mythology. How do you think this ties into the series (eg the trio, the Hogwarts houses)?
[15:39] <Theoriser> yeah, that's strange
[15:40] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo drew on that knowledge in a general way.
[15:40] <Sofie> 3 tasks in book1 and 4
[15:40] <Theoriser> three and four seem to be the most important numbers in Jo's universe
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[15:40] <Skiplives> Three is a number that has all kinds symbolic touch points
[15:40] <Islwyn13> Hey, all smile
[15:40] <Poet> Like Varza pointed out, these are important numbers in world history and mythology
[15:40] <MrMcGonagall> I really wonder about that book on Jo's shelf on her website with the magical critters and numerology.
[15:40] <KimmyBlair> Hey Islwyn!
[15:40] <Sofie> hey Isl!
[15:40] <yellowpepper2311> 3 + 4 = 7
[15:40] <Theoriser> they can add to make 7 and times to make 12
[15:41] <Skiplives> Hi Islwyn
[15:41] <Sofie> well done erna!
[15:41] <Poet> Jo loves to draw upon little pieces of the world histories and myths and make them her own
[15:41] <yellowpepper2311> te-he-he
[15:41] <fawkes28> i like the number 4 and how it relates to balance
[15:41] <Islwyn13> *huggles to all*
[15:41] <fawkes28> hello islwyn
[15:41] <Islwyn13> I've always thought that was interesting, 4 relating to balance...
[15:41] <TheAzkabanDietitian> yellowpepper obviously has a knack for arithmancy...lol
[15:41] <Sofie> :P
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[15:41] <Islwyn13> I kind of thought 3 should be a balance number
[15:41] <Skiplives> remember that until 200 years ago or so engineering was magic
[15:41] <Theoriser> yeah, makes me think of the balance of the hogwarts houses
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[15:42] <yellowpepper2311> nononono, TAD
[15:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> :P
[15:42] <yellowpepper2311> laugh
[15:42] <KimmyBlair> hahah engineering is still magic to me!
[15:42] <Islwyn13> that's interesting, though, too...
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[15:42] <KimmyBlair> (says kimmy the engineer)
[15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Jo uses a lot of different sources of inspiration to write. Mythology, numerology, alchemy
[15:42] <Skiplives> 3 is balanced, but 4 is solidity
[15:42] <Islwyn13> the houses don't seem to be really in balance...Slytherin throws it off
[15:42] <fawkes28> i wonder if jo does all of these numbers on purpose
[15:42] <Islwyn13> Oh, I agree, Sooner
[15:42] <Islwyn13> that would be so amazing if she did, fawkes
[15:43] <Poet> We all know how much Jo likes to use certain numbers. I'm glad Hermione is studying arthimency. I'm hoping that she'll be able to use what ever number skills she has to help in the horcrux hunt.
[15:43] <Islwyn13> but just as amazing, I think, if she didn't
[15:43] <MrMcGonagall> She really has a thing for prime numbers in the series.
[15:43] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Has Jo admitted that she uses Alchemy's history, etc. for the books, other than the SS?
[15:43] <fawkes28> true, jo is a smart cookie
[15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> so while I think it is good to look into, its probably not good to base what we think the outcome might be or something based off of just one thing
[15:43] <Islwyn13> not that I know of, TAD
[15:43] <Islwyn13> something else to ask her after book 7 comes out! smile
[15:43] <fawkes28> yes!
[15:43] <Theoriser> I agree sooner
[15:44] <Theoriser> it's interesting to look at but the root of the whole series probably isn't in there
[15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> but I have to admit that the intervew was very fascnating
[15:44] <Islwyn13> it's interesting, though, that many of those possible sources lead us to the same conclusoins
[15:44] <MrMcGonagall> I just don't think that she bases major plot points on obscure knowledge.
[15:44] <fawkes28> Ginny is connected to the number four, representing stability, balance and equality. Do you think this applies to her?
[15:44] <Islwyn13> I'm trying to think of an example, but I'm drawing ablank smile
[15:44] <Islwyn13> absolutely!
[15:44] <yellowpepper2311> yeah
[15:44] <Skiplives> she is Harry's rock?
[15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its interesting that she could be the fourth of the trio
[15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> if that makes any sense
[15:44] <fawkes28> i think does and i wonder if it foreshadows her role in balancing the trio from 3 to 4
[15:44] <TheAzkabanDietitian> no, but the whole King Severus and King Albus (?) makes you wonder MrM...
[15:45] <Islwyn13> that's true, the trio is balanced, but Harry still needs Ginny to ground him
[15:45] <KimmyBlair> yes!
[15:45] <Islwyn13> so she adds to it
[15:45] <ph63915> shes not the fourth Weasley though
[15:45] <Poet> Makes it more stable - I like that
[15:45] <Skiplives> no 7th
[15:45] <Islwyn13> true, she's the seventh smile
[15:45] <Skiplives> magic number 7
[15:45] <Islwyn13> oh, Skip got to it first! smile
[15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> so a table with 4 legs is sturdier than a table with 3 legs
[15:45] <fawkes28> nice, sooner
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[15:45] <Islwyn13> but wouldn't a triangular table be just as stable with 3?
[15:46] <Islwyn13> I just mean that 3 is a fairly balanced number, too
[15:46] <Skiplives> and a cube is stable and unchanging no matter which plane you rest it on
[15:46] <fawkes28> it depends on the table then
[15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I still think Ginny is a better addition
[15:46] <Islwyn13> agreed
[15:46] <ph63915> a four legged table will only touch on three of the legs
[15:46] <Islwyn13> ?
[15:46] <fawkes28> i think ginny would only make it better
[15:46] <Islwyn13> Hermione is Harrys
[15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> and I do think it interesting that her number does reflect on her character
[15:46] <Islwyn13> sorry, Harry's logic...
[15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> again..... if this is coincidence it is weird
[15:46] <Islwyn13> Ron is his emotional support?
[15:46] <Poet> As for equality, we often see her standing up for the idea that girls can do things just as well as boys. She's not afraid to be tough, which is good for Harry.
[15:46] <Islwyn13> and Ginny is his ancor
[15:47] <Islwyn13> does that work?
[15:47] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I like that ph63915....
[15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that Islwyn
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[15:47] <fawkes28> Snape's character number is 2, representing balance, two-way communication and conflict. Do you think that this describes him well?
[15:47] <ph63915> its true...sorry more engineering comment
[15:47] <Islwyn13> thanks smile
[15:47] <Islwyn13> I'm confused about the balance part
[15:47] <Islwyn13> he seems rather imbalanced a lot of the time
[15:48] <yellowpepper2311> yeah, right isl
[15:48] <MrMcGonagall> It absolutely does not represent him.
[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I almost fell out of my chair when I heard this
[15:48] <Islwyn13> communication, surely...he's either passing info of DD to LV, or theother way around
[15:48] <Poet> He does a very sneaky job of keeping both the Order and DE semi-happy at the same time
[15:48] <Skiplives> two points define a line - that typw of balance
[15:48] <Islwyn13> (I think it's the other way around)
[15:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> It certainly sounds like him
[15:48] <Islwyn13> but 2 is definitely more of a conflict number, to me
[15:48] <ph63915> certainly plenty of conflict around
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[15:48] <Poet> He certainly has a duality to him.
[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> but the 2-way communication... hinting that he is a spy?
[15:48] <fawkes28> lol and snape is definitely not a strait line
[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome anna
[15:48] <Poet> Hi anna
[15:48] <Theoriser> that's a little scary
[15:48] <fawkes28> hello anna
[15:48] <AnnaNoe> hii
[15:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hullo anna
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[15:48] <Theoriser> it seems to describe him so well
[15:48] <yellowpepper2311> hey anna
[15:48] <Theoriser> hi anna
[15:49] <Poet> Just talking about the fan interview
[15:49] <KimmyBlair> I LOVED that Snape stuff
[15:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> and cbm
[15:49] <cbm> hi everyone!
[15:49] <fawkes28> how so, kimmy?
[15:49] <MrMcGonagall> What exactly does one mean by two-way communication? He certainly doesn't share much.
[15:49] <fawkes28> hi cbm
[15:49] <Poet> Hi cbm
[15:49] <yellowpepper2311> hey!
[15:49] <danae24> Ok, i'm back
[15:49] <KimmyBlair> I how his two numbers were just like him...
[15:49] <danae24> Hi cbm!
[15:49] <Theoriser> that could imply that he's a spy
[15:49] <yellowpepper2311> wb, danae
[15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I think is very balanced as long as the issue is not Harry Potter
[15:49] <fawkes28> we don't know what exactly snape is sharing with people now a days
[15:49] <ph63915> I think hes two faced!
[15:49] <KimmyBlair> one was the good guy snape.. and one the spy snape...
[15:49] <Islwyn13> two ends of a spectrum
[15:49] <Islwyn13> that sort of thing
[15:49] <Islwyn13> Heya, Anna smile
[15:49] <Islwyn13> Hey, anna and cbm smile
[15:49] <Islwyn13> not with us, but what did Snape share with DD
[15:49] <Islwyn13> or with LV, for that matter
[15:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Snape doesn't share much with the reader (Harry's POV), but I'm sure he does with the other characters
[15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Kimmy
[15:49] <Poet> I agree MrMcG - he likes to hide a lot, but he seems to be able to see more than others
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[15:50] <Skiplives> with Snape you could argue the communication is between his own angel and devil
[15:50] <Islwyn13> I wonder if that idea does show that he's working for himself...maybe passing info in both directions
[15:50] <KimmyBlair> i find that the most amazing similarity between the arithmancy and Jo's characters
[15:50] <fawkes28> hello crookshankknows smile
[15:50] <KimmyBlair> that's what I think Islwyn
[15:50] <Islwyn13> whenever it works in his favor?
[15:50] <MrMcGonagall> I just see Snape as one who principally keeps his own counsel.
[15:50] <danae24> Yes, I have to agree on that Kimmy!
[15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> that's wjat I was trying to say Isl, but you said it much better than me
[15:50] <crookshanksknows> hello
[15:50] <Skiplives> hi
[15:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Snape seems to be the one to ensure his own survival imo
[15:50] <danae24> hi crookshanks!
[15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> hey crookshanks
[15:50] <Theoriser> hi crookshanks
[15:50] <fawkes28> i thought that interview was very interesting
[15:50] <Islwyn13> Hmm...I've always seen him as working for DD...now I have to think about it again smile
[15:50] <KimmyBlair> if Jo has used arithmancy in the writing of her story I would take that as indication he is out ofnly for himself
[15:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hello crookshanksknows
[15:50] <Islwyn13> heya, crookshanks smile
[15:51] <Islwyn13> also the fact that his otehr two numbers are 1's
[15:51] <danae24> brb again......... I'm going to eat lunch!
[15:51] <Poet> Yes!
[15:51] <Islwyn13> a very lonely, self-serving number
[15:51] <crookshanksknows> Is this the Snape debate?
[15:51] * TheAzkabanDietitian wonders if the real Crookshanks has a number
[15:51] <Theoriser> yes, that fits his character so well
[15:51] <Islwyn13> yep, sort of smile
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[15:51] <Poet> Talking about the fan interview
[15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> so do you guys think these are all coincidences, she used this mor than we think, or we are just interpreting the data to fit what we want?
[15:51] <KimmyBlair> hahah one of the many snape debates
[15:51] <Poet> A bit of both Sooner
[15:51] <Theoriser> kind of, we're discussing numerology from the fan interview in PotterCast
[15:51] <Islwyn13> oh, good point, sooner...
[15:51] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think it's coincidence
[15:51] <MrMcGonagall> I think a little of both, Sooner.
[15:51] <fawkes28> i think we enjoy digging through all this stuff smile
[15:51] <AnnaNoe> i have to go, bye everyone!
[15:51] <Islwyn13> only way to know is if we can make some predictions about book 7, and we turn out to be right
[15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Anna
[15:51] <KimmyBlair> Hmm...
[15:52] <Islwyn13> later, anna smile
[15:52] <ph63915> I'm not convinved by it, dumb luck i reckon
[15:52] <KimmyBlair> i wish i knew the answer to that Sooner...
[15:52] <Islwyn13> very, very lucky, though
[15:52] <KimmyBlair> there is an AWFUL LOT of coincidence
[15:52] <Islwyn13> lots of coincidences
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[15:52] <ph63915> convinced
[15:52] <Islwyn13> I don't believe in lots of coincidences...
[15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Kimmy
[15:52] <Poet> Arthimency is just one little part of the stories, but it's fun to explore each part of mythology that she incorporates, even if it only just minorly influences the story
[15:52] <Islwyn13> I see a pattern
[15:52] <TheAzkabanDietitian> where>
[15:52] <Islwyn13> esp with alchemy, but we won't get into that here ;)
[15:52] <fawkes28> Do you think that the numbers could help you understand the characters and their place in the story more?
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[15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Isl
[15:52] <MrMcGonagall> I have an aversion to seeing life as too mathematical, I guess.
[15:52] <KimmyBlair> ohhh... that is quite possible fawkes
[15:52] <Islwyn13> some, yeah, I think they tell us about the characgters...
[15:52] <KimmyBlair> i never thought of it like that before
[15:53] <Theoriser> I'm not sure on this one
[15:53] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think we're doing fine without the numerology
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[15:53] <Islwyn13> but Sooner makes a good point...perhaps we take what fits and apply that
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[15:53] <crookshanksknows> i like that idea fawkes
[15:53] <Skiplives> back
[15:53] <MrMcGonagall> I think Poet makes a good point.
[15:53] <Poet> A little, I think Fawkes, but not tons - in my opinion. It's a bit like knowing their b-days and looking at their signs.
[15:53] <Theoriser> Snape's numbers seem to, as well as harry and neville, but that still might be coincidences
[15:53] <Islwyn13> yeah, poet, it's a lot like that
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[15:54] <Poet> For instance Snape being born in January - and Janus being the god of doors - a face pointing each direction
[15:54] <Islwyn13> but with a few more variables than just hte twelve zodiacs
[15:54] <Islwyn13> since there are at least 3 numbers to describe people
[15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that we just have to consider it part of the whole more than likely
[15:54] <Islwyn13> OH, that's good, poet!
[15:54] <Islwyn13> I didn't know that smile
[15:54] <Skiplives> Snape is a very conflicted person
[15:54] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Sooner.
[15:55] <Islwyn13> yeah, Skip, so in that way, the 2 fits...
[15:55] <KimmyBlair> i agree with that Ski!
[15:55] <Islwyn13> it's just hard to see him as a balancing type character...
[15:55] <Islwyn13> unless he'll tip the balance...
[15:55] <Islwyn13> hmm...
[15:55] <Skiplives> well he is ballanced between DD and LV
[15:55] <crookshanksknows> does anyone think that snape is simply in it for himself? not sure how the numbers fit there
[15:55] <Islwyn13> be there just when Harry needs him?
[15:55] <Poet> I think he ... yes Skip
[15:55] <Theoriser> yes, that's what
[15:55] <Islwyn13> I'm not even sure that position was veyr balanced, Skip...
[15:55] <Islwyn13> but perhaps
[15:55] <Theoriser> *that's what I took it to mean
[15:56] <cbm> I do, I think he wants to be on the winning side
[15:56] <Islwyn13> that would make him a bit like Pettigrew, wouldn't it?
[15:56] <cbm> Exactly
[15:56] <Islwyn13> picking the storngest side to support?
[15:56] <cbm> yes
[15:56] <Islwyn13> I don't think he'll waffle that easily
[15:56] <Poet> Snape is more patient though.
[15:56] <Islwyn13> I think he's made a choice...
[15:56] <KimmyBlair> yeah i dont' see him as a waffler
[15:56] <KimmyBlair> he's to strong for that
[15:56] <MrMcGonagall> jo does place a certain importance on the magical qualities and symbolism of numbers, but I don't think it's the key to the series.
[15:56] <Islwyn13> I hope it's for Harry's side
[15:56] <crookshanksknows> I think he intends to end up on top...of even Voldy
[15:56] <Islwyn13> yeah, Kimmy, that's what I think, too
[15:56] <SoonerGryffindor> it would be interestoing to see what his nubmers are
[15:57] <Islwyn13> he has faith in himself, something Pettigrew never seemed to have
[15:57] <KimmyBlair> yeah
[15:57] <fawkes28> Did you know much about numerology before this fan interview?
[15:57] <KimmyBlair> pettigrew just wants to live
[15:57] <KimmyBlair> snape wants to make an impact
[15:57] <Islwyn13> only a little
[15:57] <KimmyBlair> nothing!
[15:57] <MrMcGonagall> A little, yes.
[15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I did not know anything
[15:57] <Theoriser> nope, almost nothing
[15:57] <fawkes28> i didnt really know anything
[15:57] <Theoriser> I knew there were numbers for different letters but that's it
[15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> except for the fact that it existed
[15:57] <crookshanksknows> little
[15:57] <TheAzkabanDietitian> a little
[15:57] <ph63915> With Voldys ego he'd want to be the number 1 else he'll throw a wobbly
[15:57] <Poet> I knew how to get numbers, but didn't know what any of them meant
[15:58] <Islwyn13> numerology plays heavily into the Tarot...something else Jo seems to have at least a cursory knowledge of
[15:58] <KimmyBlair> (pst... if you want to learn more go check out Scribby.... rumor is there are great essays there... ibelieve by witherwhings... but i could be wrong)
[15:58] * cbm oops had to go do work
[15:58] <fawkes28> i bet sillyputty got people to buy some numerology books now smile
[15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I think you are right Kimmy
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[15:58] <KimmyBlair> haha i know she got me to Fawkes!
[15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> it has given me something else to consider and to think about
[15:58] <KimmyBlair> if someone wrote an numerology in harry Potter book i know I would read it!
[15:58] <Islwyn13> absolutely!
[15:59] <Islwyn13> there must be one out there somewhere!
[15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> I so wish we knew for sure what kinds of things that Jo used in her research
[15:59] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think anything could convince me to read a book about numbers! Haha!
[15:59] <Islwyn13> If Harry Potter can run GE, there must be an HP numerology book out there!
[15:59] <KimmyBlair> i really think there is a lot to learn about the series from arithmancy... wheter intentional or not
[15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[15:59] <Islwyn13> agreed, Sooner
[15:59] <Islwyn13> that would b efascinating!
[15:59] <Islwyn13> I agree, Kimmy
[15:59] <Poet> I don't bother much with the Zodiac or with using numbers for exploring personalities in the real world, but I find Jo's use of certain numbers facinating when it comes to the series
[16:00] <MrMcGonagall> true, Poet.
[16:00] <fawkes28> This week's conundrum was about whether Trelawney is or isn't a fraud. First of all, do you think that Professor Trelawney was right about the grim in book three, like Sue does?
[16:00] <Theoriser> I agree poet
[16:00] <Islwyn13> Oh, I love this one!
[16:00] <Skiplives> yes
[16:00] <Islwyn13> yes, I think she saw a dog...and misinterpreted it to be a grim
[16:00] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Yes!
[16:00] <MrMcGonagall> I'm just not sure. On the whole, I'd say no.
[16:00] <fawkes28> i think she is right
[16:00] <crookshanksknows> yes
[16:00] <ph63915> yes
[16:00] <KimmyBlair> I agree Islwyn
[16:00] <Islwyn13> I agree with Guru...she "sees" but doesn't know how to "interpret"
[16:00] <KimmyBlair> exactly
[16:00] <KimmyBlair> Guru hit it right on the head
[16:01] <Islwyn13> yep
[16:01] <Theoriser> although, I have a theory that she kept seeing the grim because it was for her, not harry
[16:01] <KimmyBlair> ohhhhh
[16:01] <TheAzkabanDietitian> uh oh
[16:01] <Islwyn13> oh, in