DH - What should they include?, plots, characters, scenes, and extra tidbits... |
 Nov 16 2007, 11:24 PM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes  Posts: 50 Joined: 7:33pm August 4, 2007  |
Okay, I'm not sure if one of these threads already exists, but I didn't see one. (If I missed it, apologies and feel free to close or merge this!)
But I model this thread after the, "HBP - What should they include?" thread. - EVERY Severus/Lily scene!! - The Severus-Dumbledore-Doe Patronus scene! - Every Luna scene! - The missing Lily scene from Snape's Worst Memory. - The Harry/Hermione Horcrux!Kiss scene. - The epilogue (with frizzy, freckled, redhead!Rose). - A moving picture credit montage to show what happens during the 19 Years leading up to the epilogue, including things that happen to characters such as Neville and Luna, in addition to the trio. They seriously screwed the Snevans shippers in SWM, so we deserve EVERY Snevans moment in DH, including the cut scene of Lily from OotP! Unless they're complete areses, the only reason I can possibly think to have them not include that in the deleted scenes is because they plan to weave it into DH somehow. Luna is one of my most favorite characters in the entire series, so I want as much of her as humanly possible! I'm not a Harmony shipper, mind you, but I just want to see Ron's reaction...that, and Dan/Emma have much more chemistry than Rupert/Emma and, especially, Dan/Bonnie. And if Luna/Harry can't smooch on screen, then I guess Harry/Hermione is the next best thing to keep the Ginny/Harry kiss from my poor mind. Although, since Emma is not happy about kissing Rupert anyway, I have my unfortunate doubs about the Horcrux!Kiss because it might be cut if Emma and/or Dan refuse to kiss each other. I hate the ships, but I love Scorpius/Rose, so I really want the epilogue just so I can see what movie!Rose and movie!Scorpius look like. And I doubt it'll happen either, but moving pictures during the credits has been suggested over and over by fans who want to know what happen to the other characters and just nice tidbits during the 19 Years, so I think it would be perfect! (Plus, Rowling would have her chance to "show" her extra information and it wouldn't leave the movie goers who don't read the books and follow the interviews confused.) This post has been edited by SnevansDramione: Nov 16 2007, 11:26 PM |
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Nov 17 2007, 03:51 AM
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Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 687 Joined: 4:15am May 7, 2007 Location: (LiamFuller) Conducting tests on wether I'm Pure-Blood, Half-Blood or Muggle-Born *OUCH*  |
 Oooh this should be fun!
Why'd Harry kiss Luna? ... QUOTE I have my unfortunate doubs about the Horcrux!Kiss because it might be cut if Emma and/or Dan refuse to kiss each other. I think the kiss could be Computer Graphics maybe, since it's supposed to be a ghostly, whispy image of them kissing it could be done on graphics. But I think that Emma and Dan would kiss eachother, they're supposed to be proffessional aren't they? they don't mind hugging eachother all the time in the movies, even though Hermione is supposed to be in love with Ron, I myself think that any -written- kisses will be done, Luna/Harry ...not a chance, but Ron and Hermione it has to. -------------------- |
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Nov 17 2007, 07:01 AM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 48 Joined: 4:20pm February 6, 2007  |
I personaly think they had to make tv series but i think in the movie these scenes would be great:
- the dying snape - complete final battle as the book AND EVERYTHING! 
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Nov 17 2007, 11:20 AM
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Perusing the Magical Menagerie Posts: 90 Joined: 12:01am August 8, 2007 |
If your gonna ask what they should include, you have to be sensible about it. It MUST be thought from the filmmaker's point of view.
First, divide the book by plot...every subplot and every main plot in that book should be seperated and organized. Then cut the subplots/main plots that either have no major bearing or cannot be filmed without taking too much time. Then with what you have left, you have to weave it so that it flows nicely, even if it deviates with how it runs in the book. If a plot runs later rather than soone or sooner rather than later, so long as it helps with flow and development of the plot, let it be. So whomever has DH with them, start seperating. -------------------- Proud tactical envisoneer of both the BotW, and 1st and 2nd BoH, details and all. :D
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Nov 18 2007, 02:02 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 114 Joined: 9:33pm January 6, 2007 Location: Lost in the Field |
QUOTE(FFShinra @ Nov 17 2007, 12:20 PM)  If your gonna ask what they should include, you have to be sensible about it. It MUST be thought from the filmmaker's point of view. I read this link last night (you can find it here, http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1574308/story.jhtml), and it got me thinking. QUOTE What you won't find in the DVD's deleted scenes, however, is a shot that fans thought would have made the film because it explained Snape's behavior throughout the whole series, a scene referred to as Snape's worst memory, in which he calls a teenage Lily, Harry's mom-to-be, a Mudblood. Some of that was in the film, but it stopped short of showing Lily, who turned out to be the love of Snape's life. "We had a lovely actress play Lily," Yates said. "And we may bring her back. But by introducing Lily and the Lily/Snape plot, that back story, we complicated it too much. We had to cut it." (Bold added) I wonder if they'll cut the whole Lily/Snape relationship because it's "just too complicated" (and doesn't involve any amazing special effects). I suppose they could have Snape do it all just because DD tells him to, with maybe one or 2 quick lines about Lily during a pensive scene. That would be a lot easier, from the screenwriter's point of view - just keep it simple. It sure would kill my enthusiasm for the movie, though. |
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Nov 18 2007, 04:23 PM
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Buying a Half-Kneazle Posts: 522 Joined: 1:26pm May 8, 2006 Location: Teaching the Hogwart's house elves to tap dance. |
QUOTE(Larch4426 @ Nov 18 2007, 11:02 AM) QUOTE What you won't find in the DVD's deleted scenes, however, is a shot that fans thought would have made the film because it explained Snape's behavior throughout the whole series, a scene referred to as Snape's worst memory, in which he calls a teenage Lily, Harry's mom-to-be, a Mudblood. Some of that was in the film, but it stopped short of showing Lily, who turned out to be the love of Snape's life. "We had a lovely actress play Lily," Yates said. "And we may bring her back. But by introducing Lily and the Lily/Snape plot, that back story, we complicated it too much. We had to cut it." (Bold added) I wonder if they'll cut the whole Lily/Snape relationship because it's "just too complicated" (and doesn't involve any amazing special effects). I suppose they could have Snape do it all just because DD tells him to, with maybe one or 2 quick lines about Lily during a pensive scene. That would be a lot easier, from the screenwriter's point of view - just keep it simple. It sure would kill my enthusiasm for the movie, though. It may have overcomplicated OOTP, but it is essential to DH, so I feel pretty confident it will make it into this movie. The whole point of the silver doe, was that it was Lily's patronus, because Snape loved Lily. THey can't have Snape killing DD in HBP, without explaining that Snape was not bad after all. Harry explains to Riddle at the end of DH's that the reason Harry himself is the master of the Elder Wand, is because Snape was the wrong man. It's the whole bait and switch thing. Voldemort thinks Snape was the one, and only Harry knows it was Draco. So although it won't take much to include his love for Lily, I'm prety sure it will make it in. And since they've already filmed the entire sequence, there is not continuity conflict in including it in The Princes Tale. -------------------- ~ Canon Love Was Meant To Be ~ |
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Nov 18 2007, 06:25 PM
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Perusing the Magical Menagerie Posts: 90 Joined: 12:01am August 8, 2007 |
Yates said it was overcomplicated because the whole Lily/Snape plot does not play off until a whole two movies later. In other words, it breaks Chekhov's rule. He'll introduce that whole plot line exactly where it needs to be: in DH. That way we can get the intro and pay off in the same movie.
-------------------- Proud tactical envisoneer of both the BotW, and 1st and 2nd BoH, details and all. :D
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Nov 18 2007, 07:33 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 114 Joined: 9:33pm January 6, 2007 Location: Lost in the Field |
QUOTE(FFShinra @ Nov 18 2007, 07:25 PM) Yates said it was overcomplicated because the whole Lily/Snape plot does not play off until a whole two movies later. In other words, it breaks Chekhov's rule. He'll introduce that whole plot line exactly where it needs to be: in DH. That way we can get the intro and pay off in the same movie. I see your point, and I certainly hope you're right. Limiting that subplot to the last movie would make sense. I hope my worries are groundless. |
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Nov 18 2007, 11:18 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 103 Joined: 8:14pm May 31, 2007 Location: Slipping puking pastels into Umbridge's tea! |
I would love to see the snitch birthday cake for Harry, and the minister being all "and why is that?" "why would he give this to you?" it should be a hilarious but serious scene.
Of course I'm looking forward to how they introduce the Lily/Snape relationship in Deathly Hallows as well, I would die if they cut the Harry/Hermione kiss I just wanna see the look on Ron's face during that. I would love it if they actually SHOWED Hermione being tortured by Bellatrix and the look on Draco's face during it (I know it shouldn't be pleasant and because I'm a huge Dramione shipper). Then Ron yelling HERMIONE HERMIONE! Um the whole "Draco was gripping Harry so hard it hurt" on the broom scene just for the Drarry shippers!  The Luna/Dean gosh their was a ton of Other Pairing moments, also Harry yelling at Lupin for abandoning Tonks. I truly felt J.K. showed a lot of different ships for the fans, so if they could have those little scenes it would really make almost every OP-shipper happy  <other pairing shippers
This post has been edited by kasbrina69: Nov 18 2007, 11:21 PM --------------------   Mr.Weasley is King! Cause he digg's Muggles, like me! Apart of the Anti-Cho-Lavender Group "Cause they didn't end up with them in the end." |
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Nov 20 2007, 12:26 AM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 183 Joined: 7:38pm November 18, 2006 Location: Hiding in the Land of the Lost |
I agree.
And I certainly hope they keep the whole scene with the escape from the dursley house true to the book, that was actually one of my favorite parts of the book for some reason, and I hope they try and keep most of the content true, they don't need to put it all in there but at least some and have it true. Also the scene in the cafe, it should be kept in seeing as it is a -somewhat, but not all - important scene, and the ending scene, its short so they should keep that in its true form. It is a scene that should not be tampered with, seeing as it ends the series. All we can do for now is just keep our fingers crossed and hope that it will be everything that it should be.  -------------------- I know what I can know, and am not troubled about what I cannot know. - Johann Fichte
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