Deathly Hallows: Hopes and Fears, Deathly Hallows Part 1 Trailer |
 Dec 7 2009, 03:28 PM
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Leaky Lounge Over Achiever  Posts: 9,333 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK   |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 03:57 AM)  I hope they don't have Ginny in there instead of Hermione, it would make absolutely no sense. Harry agrees with Molly that Ginny should stay away from the fight, so it would make no sense for him to take her with him to look for one of the Horcruxes. Even though he doesn't know Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle (or Malfoy, Goyle and Blaise Zabini in the case of the film) will follow him in there, he knows there's every possibility that Voldemort might have sent someone to retrieve the Diadem for him, so he wouldn't put Ginny in danger like that. It wouldn't be putting Ginny in danger, because they know no one is in the room - Ginny has been keeping it free of unfriendly people by staying in it up to this point. The room of hidden things isn't any more dangerous than the rest of the castle, and Voldemort wouldn't send anyone else into the room because he wouldn't want anyone else to know about the diadem. Anyway, Ginny would only be needed if she had seen the diadem there. Someone might just come up with the idea that that could be a good place for Riddle to have hidden it, or they could hint at it when they fill in the back story omitted from the HBP film that tells them they should be looking for the diadem in the first place. --------------------  W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Dec 7 2009, 03:51 PM
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Lounge's Mad Science Lab Assistant  Posts: 1,007 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Dec 7 2009, 03:28 PM) QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 03:57 AM) I hope they don't have Ginny in there instead of Hermione, it would make absolutely no sense. Harry agrees with Molly that Ginny should stay away from the fight, so it would make no sense for him to take her with him to look for one of the Horcruxes. Even though he doesn't know Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle (or Malfoy, Goyle and Blaise Zabini in the case of the film) will follow him in there, he knows there's every possibility that Voldemort might have sent someone to retrieve the Diadem for him, so he wouldn't put Ginny in danger like that. It wouldn't be putting Ginny in danger, because they know no one is in the room - Ginny has been keeping it free of unfriendly people by staying in it up to this point. The room of hidden things isn't any more dangerous than the rest of the castle, and Voldemort wouldn't send anyone else into the room because he wouldn't want anyone else to know about the diadem. Anyway, Ginny would only be needed if she had seen the diadem there. Someone might just come up with the idea that that could be a good place for Riddle to have hidden it, or they could hint at it when they fill in the back story omitted from the HBP film that tells them they should be looking for the diadem in the first place. But Harry (and probably Ron) wouldn't want her anywhere near any of the Horcruxes after what happened with the Diary (although that's just my thoughts). Also, as I said at the end of my post, they could have Ginny mention that she saw the Diadem while she was hiding the Potions book the previous year if Harry describes it. -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Dec 7 2009, 05:41 PM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 27 Joined: 3:57pm August 31, 2009 Location: My Own Private Burrow |
The high-def versions of the teaser are so much easier to decipher. I'm glad Leaky put up the gallery of each scene, too. I wonder when the first full trailer will be released; maybe it will go in front of a big early-2010 release like Percy Jackson and the Olympians. Otherwise it will be a long wait until summer (if New Moon trailers went up before Half-Blood Prince, I imagine the same will be true of DH1 before Eclipse).
I'm not sure if it's appropriate for this post, but since someone mentioned the Bill/Fleur wedding... I'm putting spoiler tags since some people don't want to know how the movies plan to depart from canon: I just read a short David Yates interview in the Telegraph that Harry and Hermione will have a special dance at the Weasley wedding that wasn't in the book. I wonder if that is the dance that the online set report from a while back said made Ron jealously leave the reception tent. Hmm, that would make a lot of sense in preparation for the eventual horcrux scene. |
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Dec 7 2009, 07:36 PM
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Leaky Lounge Over Achiever Posts: 9,333 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 08:51 PM) But Harry (and probably Ron) wouldn't want her anywhere near any of the Horcruxes after what happened with the Diary (although that's just my thoughts). I doubt that would bother them because they know that horcruxes are only dangerous in the way that the diary was if you get emotionally close to it, so Ginny is no more in danger than anyone else.QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 08:51 PM) Also, as I said at the end of my post, they could have Ginny mention that she saw the Diadem while she was hiding the Potions book the previous year if Harry describes it. If Ginny saw it then she would be needed to guide them to it, as otherwise the trio could spend ages hunting for it if Ginny doesn't remember everything correctly or something in the instructions had been moved since she was there. If Ginny went with the trio they would be much more likely to find it, because things in the room could jog her memory, and she would be much more likely to notice if something had been changed.
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Dec 7 2009, 09:54 PM
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Lounge's Mad Science Lab Assistant Posts: 1,007 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Dec 7 2009, 07:36 PM) QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 08:51 PM) But Harry (and probably Ron) wouldn't want her anywhere near any of the Horcruxes after what happened with the Diary (although that's just my thoughts). I doubt that would bother them because they know that horcruxes are only dangerous in the way that the diary was if you get emotionally close to it, so Ginny is no more in danger than anyone else.But they don't know that each Horcrux behaves the same. For example, you didn't need to get emotionally close to the Locket like you did with the Diary, you just had to have it physically close to you for it to "get to know you". Ron especially might be wary of letting his little sister go with them, especially considering his own, very recent encounter with a Horcrux. QUOTE QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 7 2009, 08:51 PM) Also, as I said at the end of my post, they could have Ginny mention that she saw the Diadem while she was hiding the Potions book the previous year if Harry describes it. If Ginny saw it then she would be needed to guide them to it, as otherwise the trio could spend ages hunting for it if Ginny doesn't remember everything correctly or something in the instructions had been moved since she was there. If Ginny went with the trio they would be much more likely to find it, because things in the room could jog her memory, and she would be much more likely to notice if something had been changed.That's true, I guess. I just really don't think it's something Ginny should be a part of. The Horcrux hunt is something the Trio do together. Also, with the fact that there will be three Slytherins in the room, versus the three members of the Trio, having Ginny there would ruin the dynamic of that scene. If they send Ginny in there insetad of Hermione, I will be very annoyed. For me, it's also important that Ginny isn't there because when the Trio leave the RoR, Harry notices that Ginny isn't where she is uspposed to be- waiting outside to go back in. As far as I remember, he doesn't see her again until everyone is gathered in the Great Hall and she is beside Fred's body with her family. I know this isn't a majorthing, but for me it just adds to the suspense that we know Ginny has run off to join the fight against everyone's wishes, and then we don't see her again for quite a long time. This post has been edited by Bookworm_Weasley: Dec 7 2009, 09:57 PM -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Dec 8 2009, 09:42 AM
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Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 698 Joined: 4:15am May 7, 2007 Location: (LiamFuller) Conducting tests on wether I'm Pure-Blood, Half-Blood or Muggle-Born *OUCH* |
While excited for seeing the Deathly Hallows trailer I am again disappointed to have no news on whether Alfie Enoch has reprised for his role of Dean Thomas, which in Deathly Hallows was quite a large role. I was watching the HBP Extras on the DVD yesterday with him and Matt Lewis introducing the scenes and it got me thinking again to his character in Deathly Hallows. He appears to have been cut out of the Shell Cottage scenes as Griphook, Ollivander and Luna other than the trio have all been featured.
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Dec 8 2009, 04:32 PM
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Leaky Lounge Over Achiever Posts: 9,333 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 8 2009, 02:54 AM) QUOTE(roonwit @ Dec 7 2009, 07:36 PM) I doubt that would bother them because they know that horcruxes are only dangerous in the way that the diary was if you get emotionally close to it, so Ginny is no more in danger than anyone else. But they don't know that each Horcrux behaves the same. For example, you didn't need to get emotionally close to the Locket like you did with the Diary, you just had to have it physically close to you for it to "get to know you". QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Dec 8 2009, 02:54 AM) That's true, I guess. I just really don't think it's something Ginny should be a part of. The Horcrux hunt is something the Trio do together. Also, with the fact that there will be three Slytherins in the room, versus the three members of the Trio, having Ginny there would ruin the dynamic of that scene. If they send Ginny in there insetad of Hermione, I will be very annoyed. I agree that Ginny shouldn't be there but that just means they need to find another way of deciding that the diadem is, or might be, in the room of hidden things. It is also true that once the trio acquire Ginny and involve her in the horcrux hunt, they are going to find it very difficult to get rid of her again so the nature of the story is changed.
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Dec 11 2009, 12:26 PM
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Stocking Snitches at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 698 Joined: 4:15am May 7, 2007 Location: (LiamFuller) Conducting tests on wether I'm Pure-Blood, Half-Blood or Muggle-Born *OUCH* |
I've thought of another scenario that doesn't involve Ginny actually being in the Room of Requirement...
Ron and Hermione could leave Harry to go down to the Chamber of Secrets, Harry then asks the crowd in the Room of Requirement if they know about Ravenclaws Diadem, we then could have Cho/Luna telling Harry about it and then Luna and Ginny could go with Harry (to fill Ron/Hermiones slot) to Ravenclaw's Common Room to see the Diadem on the statue, then Ginny can be all like "I've seen this before, last year ..." and tell Harry she'll show him, reluctantly Harry could agree as he has no other choice but along the way he could meet up with Ron and Hermione, then something dangerous could happen which provokes him to tell Ginny she isn't safe and should go back with Luna, Ginny then has to describe the location to Harry and thus the trio are the three to go looking for it.  I think that works nicely actually...
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Dec 12 2009, 02:54 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 11 Joined: 6:44pm February 4, 2009 |
I personally think they're going to resolve the diadem thing in the quickest way possible.
Ginny didn't tell Harry to close his eyes until after he was in the RoR. So my guess is that Harry is going to remember seeing the diadem when he first entered the room. This will be a little awkward since they didn't make a point of showing Harry see the diadem in HBP. Or they could change the plot a little, like having someone overhear Voldemort mention it is in a secret room at Hogwarts that only he knows about, and having Harry guess he means the RoR, and then search through the room until he finds it. I know all of these are stretches. Don't know why they changed the HBP scene in the first place. They could easily have had Harry hide the potions book near the diadem, and have the Harry/Ginny kiss some other way. -------------------- |
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Dec 12 2009, 05:47 PM
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Leaky Lounge Over Achiever Posts: 9,333 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(susb8383 @ Dec 12 2009, 07:54 PM) I personally think they're going to resolve the diadem thing in the quickest way possible. The simplest way is for Voldemort to give Harry a bit more information when he thinks of his horcrux locations after discovering the cup is gone from the Gringotts vault - enough for him to realize after thought that it was in the room of requirements and what to look for. I don't think Voldemort would let anyone else know his horcrux was in the room of requirements, and silence anyone who did.
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