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Dickens and JKR?, Interesting parallels between Dickens' Oliver Twist and HP
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post Apr 15 2007, 05:14 PM
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So this could be totally wrong, but i thought i should post it anyway.

Most of us know that on JKR's website a while ago, she had posted a quote from Dickens about writing- i don't know it off the top of my head, but i know it was there.

Recently, reading Charles Dickens' Oliver Twist for school, i noticed some weird similarities to hypotheses for DH. The following is an exerpt from Chapter 11, when Mr. Brownlow, referred to here as the old gentleman, sees Oliver's face and thinks he's seen him or someone like him before. Look for things like an amphitheatre (room w/ the archway), a shroud or curtain (the veil), faces of the deceased (well, that's speculation), and a bit about their eyes (possibly connect to Lily's?) :

“Bless my soul! Where have I seen something like that look before?”

After musing for some minutes, the old gentleman walked, with the same meditative face, into a dark ante-room opening from the yard; and there retiring into a corner, called up before his mind’s eye a vast amphitheatre of faces over which a dusky curtain had hung for may years. “No,” said the old gentleman, shaking his head; “it must be imagination.”

He wandered over them again. He had called them into view, and it was not easy to replace the shroud that had so long concealed them. There were the faces of friends, and foes, and of many that had been almost strangers peering intrusively from the crowd; there were the faces of young and blooming girls that were now old women; there were faces that the grave had changed and closed upon, but which the mind, superior to its power, still dressed in their old freshness and beauty, calling back the luster of the eyes, the brightness of the smile, the beaming of the soul through its mask of clay, and whispering of beauty beyond the tomb, changed but to be heightened, and taken from the earth only to be set up as a light, to shed a soft and gentle glow upon the path to heaven.

But the old gentleman could recall no one countenance of which Oliver’s features bore a trace. So, he heaved a sigh over the recollections he had awakened; and being happily for himself, an absent old gentleman, buried them again in the pages of the musty book."


eventually, we find out that Oliver is the son of a woman in a portrait in Mr. Brownlow's house, but i digress. As i said, it could be totally off the mark, but what the hey, right?
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post Apr 15 2007, 05:34 PM
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You know, it's funny -- there's something very haunting about this image of an amphitheater filled with the dead. I know it's just speculation, but those dark forms in the Scholastic cover art sure suggest the "peering" dead to me.

It's possible that Jo had the seed for this image planted in her mind by Oliver Twist, but it seems just as possible that she came up it entirely on her own. In any case, I wouldn't go looking for clues to Harry's future in Dickens's novel.

Still, thanks for showing us that passage. The connections to Potter are interesting, and, if nothing else, it was nice to be reminded of just how well that Dickens guy could turn a phrase.
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