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Why Didn't the Brilliant Dumbledore Solve the Riddle of the COS?
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post Nov 29 2007, 07:36 PM
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Dumbledore should have been able to solve the riddle of the COS back when Tom Riddle was a student and opened it the first time. He had all the information that Harry had.

He didn't have the Pensieve-like diary, but he knew it was not Aragog that did the killing by the way the victims were petrified. If Hermione could figure out it was a Basilisk, so should DD.

(By the way, how did Hermy figure out that a Basilisk petrified victims if they didn't see it directly? Her book only said the looks kill.)

All Harry learned from Aragog was that Hagrid was innocent and Moaning Myrtle was the victim — DD knew both of those things. DD wouldn't have kept Hagrid on if he thought he was guilty and he certainly knew who the dead student was.

If Harry could spot the spiders fleeing, DD could too. Same with Hagrid mentioning the dead roosters.

What if Moaning Myrtle was reluctant to talk to DD after she died? From the end of OOTP, we know DD had ways to make students talk. And even if she didn't talk at all, DD still would know to look in the girl's bathroom — both because of the water in the hall and that is where Myrtle died.

We know DD spoke Parseltongue from HBP: when the Gaunts were talking in Parseltongue during the Penseive scene, DD did not ask Harry to translate. So he should have heard the Basilisk in the pipes. And he could open the COS doorway in Myrtle's bathroom.

(By the way, what made Hermy think it was a Basilisk from what Harry said or that it was in the pipes? And why didn't Ron and Hermy hear anything at all why Harry heard the Parseltongue coming from the walls? Shouldn't they have heard some hissing sound, something other than ordinary castle noises?)

DD didn't need to be the Heir of Slytherin to open the COS — Harry did it. Also in DH, even Ron could do it.

All in all, why didn't the brilliant Dumbledore find the COS?
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We have to understand that Dumbledore was not brilliant and wise (as he is now) when all this things happened before (50 years ago), I know that he could solve the problem now that happened again, but I think that he was looking to the exterior of Hogwarts and not to the interior. Other thing that we have to think about is the strategy of Voldemort. He used Ginny, the little and cute Weasley girl, to reopen the chamber and control the basilisk. Dumbledore would never suspect about her, that's why he never solved who reopened the chamber.
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- I_Brake_for_House_Elves   Why Didn't the Brilliant Dumbledore Solve the Riddle of the COS?   Nov 29 2007, 07:36 PM
- - Oryx   I think Dumbledore knew it was a basilisk (or at l...   Nov 29 2007, 07:56 PM
- - Granjo Granger   Moaning Myrtle did not know who or what killed her...   Nov 29 2007, 09:16 PM
|- - fidelia   QUOTE(Granjo Granger @ Nov 29 2007, 09:16...   Nov 30 2007, 01:19 PM
|- - YoungerGranger   QUOTE(Granjo Granger @ Nov 29 2007, 07:16...   Dec 4 2007, 09:11 PM
- - phoenix42   I think we have to remember Dd was a teacher and n...   Nov 29 2007, 09:39 PM
- - rowena r   QUOTEThe book is not titled Albus Dumbledore and t...   Nov 30 2007, 10:25 AM
- - Oryx   QUOTEAbout the chamber opening only to the heir of...   Nov 30 2007, 10:44 AM
- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTEOnce Dumbledore knew Harry could speak Parsel...   Nov 30 2007, 02:40 PM
|- - fidelia   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Nov 30 2007, 02...   Nov 30 2007, 04:36 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEYou'd think so, except that Harry wasn...   Dec 1 2007, 03:45 AM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(Oryx @ Dec 1 2007, 07:45 PM) QUOTEY...   Dec 1 2007, 04:16 AM
- - I_Brake_for_House_Elves   Hummm ... reading through the responses I'm st...   Dec 1 2007, 01:00 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTE1. If he used legilimency on Harry Dumbledore...   Dec 1 2007, 04:06 PM
- - The Voldie Wears Prada   DD did infact know the secret to the COS because f...   Dec 1 2007, 04:25 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(The Voldie Wears Prada @ Dec 2 2007, 08...   Dec 2 2007, 02:24 PM
|- - fidelia   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Dec 2 2007, 02...   Dec 2 2007, 03:02 PM
- - footnmonth   When the chamber was first open Dumbledore was not...   Dec 6 2007, 06:27 PM


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