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Discussion on WB/JKR vs. RDR/SVA, Continue the discussion here
Harrys Horntail
post Feb 14 2008, 01:28 AM
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Hi everyone,

Since Part IV of this discussion has reached 50 pages we've closed it and opened this thread to continue the discussion. You can find Part I, Part II and Part III at the links just provided. You'll also find a thread titled "The Impact of this suit on Fandom" thread here.

We do ask that we all remember to remain calm, and fair in our discussion of this topic. We understand that this is a sensitive topic and just ask that before you post you look at your words with the eyes of an outsider.

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I second Hinoema's post....I'd never heard of the Bloom's Taxonomy, and I found it very interesting.

And I don't know if anyone's done this yet, but have any of the lawyers out there took a look at the actual cases that RDR cited in their response to see how relevant they are to this? I remember one particular lawyer (and, I'm sorry I don't remember who that was) saying that they thought RDR had a chance after reading the response and I wondered if that was based off the cases they cited or their argument re: Fair Use. The only cases that I actually looked up were the ones about the Seinfeld book (disallowed) and then the parody book of Gone with the Wind (which was allowed, but the authors had to pay damages to the Mitchell estate).

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- Sethtaylorsummer   Discussion on WB/JKR vs. RDR/SVA   Feb 14 2008, 01:28 AM
- - magicpants   This is a fairly long post, but I am trying to mak...   Feb 14 2008, 02:24 AM
- - Hinoema   I'd like to add one more thing, if I may, afte...   Feb 14 2008, 02:56 AM
|- - magicpants   QUOTE(Hinoema @ Feb 14 2008, 08:56 AM) As...   Feb 14 2008, 03:19 AM
|- - Lidane   QUOTE(magicpants @ Feb 14 2008, 02:19 AM)...   Feb 14 2008, 03:47 AM
- - linden swallow   Hinoema - you write: "The first question I th...   Feb 14 2008, 05:41 AM
- - Hinoema   QUOTE(linden swallow @ Feb 14 2008, 11:41...   Feb 14 2008, 06:39 AM
- - Moriah   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 14 2008, 12:58 A...   Feb 14 2008, 07:11 AM
|- - davidenglish   QUOTE(Moriah @ Feb 14 2008, 12:11 PM) I ...   Feb 14 2008, 08:22 AM
|- - theredwitch   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 14 2008, 01:22 P...   Feb 14 2008, 09:19 AM
|- - davidenglish   QUOTE(theredwitch @ Feb 14 2008, 03:19 PM...   Feb 14 2008, 11:33 AM
- - tgfoy   Having no knowledge of the way the system works in...   Feb 14 2008, 07:15 AM
- - wondering   It is puzzling me but if in a case such as this on...   Feb 14 2008, 08:38 AM
|- - Moriah   QUOTE(wondering @ Feb 14 2008, 08:38 AM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 08:52 AM
|- - tgfoy   [quote name='wondering' date='Feb 14 2...   Feb 14 2008, 09:33 AM
- - Hinoema   Personally I see no problem with Melissa expressin...   Feb 14 2008, 09:28 AM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(Hinoema @ Feb 14 2008, 02:28 PM) Pe...   Feb 14 2008, 10:16 AM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTE(magicpants @ Feb 14 2008, 02:24 AM)...   Feb 14 2008, 10:42 AM
|- - jeleyan   QUOTEQUOTE(magicpants @ Feb 14 2008, 02:2...   Feb 14 2008, 11:31 AM
|- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 09:42 AM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 12:03 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 03:42 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 12:10 PM
||- - Henrietta   QUOTE(roonwit @ Feb 14 2008, 09:10 AM) QU...   Feb 14 2008, 01:01 PM
|- - Lidane   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 10:42 AM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM
|- - magicpants   Hi, back for another long-winded post, in response...   Feb 16 2008, 02:39 AM
|- - magicpants   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 04:42 PM) ...   Feb 16 2008, 02:43 AM
- - wondering   Oh, I thought the expert witness was Professor Jan...   Feb 14 2008, 11:09 AM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTE(Hinoema @ Feb 14 2008, 02:56 AM) Th...   Feb 14 2008, 11:12 AM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEwhy do you care that JKR is rich? Just becaus...   Feb 14 2008, 11:38 AM
|- - futureweasley   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 11:38 AM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 11:45 AM
|- - davidenglish   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Feb 14 2008, 05:38 PM) ...   Feb 14 2008, 11:55 AM
- - wondering   But this is about the legal, not personal, aspects...   Feb 14 2008, 12:07 PM
- - DorisTLC   Hi Everyone, First, I've changed the name of...   Feb 14 2008, 12:08 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEAsking why you care about JKR's personal ...   Feb 14 2008, 01:01 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEYes, quitting your job without an alternative...   Feb 14 2008, 01:02 PM
- - Essence_of_Insanity   Can we please just stop all the personal attacks d...   Feb 14 2008, 01:12 PM
- - Hinoema   This would be a good time for me to thank whoever ...   Feb 14 2008, 01:19 PM
- - dresdenfiles.fan   I've read quite a few of rulings cited, but di...   Feb 14 2008, 01:54 PM
|- - gypsyweasley   QUOTE(dresdenfiles.fan @ Feb 14 2008, 06...   Feb 14 2008, 05:59 PM
|- - Vicky-the-house-elf   QUOTE(gypsyweasley @ Feb 14 2008, 04:59 P...   Feb 14 2008, 06:34 PM
- - davidenglish   Well, although Jo has joked that her encyclopedia ...   Feb 14 2008, 02:23 PM
- - Vicky-the-house-elf   The following is OFF TOPIC, but I had to address t...   Feb 14 2008, 04:31 PM
|- - Ilzairspar   QUOTE(Vicky-the-house-elf @ Fe...   Feb 14 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - Vicky-the-house-elf   QUOTE(Ilzairspar @ Feb 14 2008, 04:11 PM)...   Feb 14 2008, 05:27 PM
- - CommonLoon   QUOTE(Arianhrod)I didn't raise the issue of mo...   Feb 14 2008, 05:39 PM
- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(gypsyweasley)Basically, what could happen (a...   Feb 14 2008, 08:13 PM
- - rotfang07   By the sound of things this case will run and run....   Feb 14 2008, 08:33 PM
- - Maime the Hunter   QUOTEAnd the charity argument is lame, too. If she...   Feb 14 2008, 08:38 PM
- - davidenglish   Jo is following in the great tradition of children...   Feb 14 2008, 09:03 PM
- - Eir de Scania   QUOTEI'll bet a hundred galleons that any ency...   Feb 14 2008, 09:49 PM
- - theredwitch   You know, if there is a market for this type of a ...   Feb 14 2008, 09:55 PM
- - davidenglish   Did I miss something or was there no mention of th...   Feb 14 2008, 09:55 PM
|- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 14 2008, 08:55 P...   Feb 14 2008, 10:24 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(dresdenfiles.fan @ Feb 15 2008, 03...   Feb 15 2008, 03:42 AM
- - davidenglish   Thanks, dresdenfiles.fan. I reread Melanie Bradley...   Feb 15 2008, 08:26 AM
|- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 15 2008, 07:26 A...   Feb 15 2008, 09:17 AM
- - davidenglish   Well, I've been trying to make sense of Google...   Feb 15 2008, 11:52 AM
- - CapriciousC   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 14 2008, 08:33 A...   Feb 15 2008, 01:01 PM
|- - davidenglish   QUOTE(CapriciousC @ Feb 15 2008, 07:01 PM...   Feb 15 2008, 02:48 PM
|- - Vicky-the-house-elf   QUOTE(CapriciousC @ Feb 15 2008, 12:01 PM...   Feb 15 2008, 02:51 PM
- - Hinoema   David- check this out. This guy has pretty much th...   Feb 15 2008, 01:26 PM
- - CapriciousC   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 15 2008, 11:48 A...   Feb 15 2008, 03:23 PM
- - davidenglish   Okay, so I had lunch today with a friend who is an...   Feb 15 2008, 07:37 PM
|- - gypsyweasley   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 16 2008, 12:37 A...   Feb 15 2008, 10:19 PM
- - NickTLC   Hi guys! Just a friendly reminder to keep thi...   Feb 15 2008, 07:51 PM
- - davidenglish   Don't the British betting shops give odds on s...   Feb 15 2008, 09:35 PM
- - rotfang07   I agree with CapriciousC, Post 56, that the Lexico...   Feb 15 2008, 09:38 PM
- - jmk132   Hello everyone. I've never actually posted on...   Feb 15 2008, 10:17 PM
- - davidenglish   Wow, great post, jmk132. And thanks. On the q...   Feb 15 2008, 11:18 PM
|- - MaraudingDon   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 16 2008, 05:18 A...   Feb 15 2008, 11:38 PM
- - davidenglish   Well, MaraudingDon, you can check out that first H...   Feb 15 2008, 11:56 PM
- - cbm   jmk132, Thanks for the informative post. So is...   Feb 16 2008, 12:51 AM
- - luna'sceiling   QUOTE(MaraudingDon @ Feb 15 2008, 11:38 P...   Feb 16 2008, 01:10 AM
|- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(luna'sceiling @ Feb 16 2008, 12...   Feb 16 2008, 04:17 AM
|- - luna'sceiling   QUOTE(dresdenfiles.fan @ Feb 16 2008, 04...   Feb 16 2008, 09:06 AM
|- - dresdenfiles.fan   QUOTE(luna'sceiling @ Feb 16 2008, 08...   Feb 16 2008, 09:37 AM
- - Eir de Scania   QUOTEA book like Steve's would provide a great...   Feb 16 2008, 01:48 AM
- - PiaSharn   jmk132, I would also like to add my thanks for you...   Feb 16 2008, 02:09 AM
- - luna'sceiling   QUOTE(Eir de Scania @ Feb 16 2008, 01:48 ...   Feb 16 2008, 02:13 AM
- - Hinoema   Welcome, jmk132! Excellent post! QUOTE(cb...   Feb 16 2008, 02:25 AM
- - rotfang07   I just wanted to thank jmk 132 Post 65 for sheddin...   Feb 16 2008, 05:09 AM
- - linden swallow   Rotfang07 - what a depressing picture, to think of...   Feb 16 2008, 05:45 AM
- - Eir de Scania   QUOTEAs for being obsolete with Jo's books pub...   Feb 16 2008, 06:22 AM
- - dresdenfiles.fan   I just received an email from a friend and fellow ...   Feb 16 2008, 08:58 AM
- - Eir de Scania   QUOTEDon't think for a moment that sites such ...   Feb 16 2008, 10:33 AM
- - jmk132   On damages: cbm: QUOTESo is the following sequenc...   Feb 16 2008, 10:44 AM
- - luna'sceiling   Eir de ScaniaI appreciate your point and the thoug...   Feb 16 2008, 11:33 AM
- - dresdenfiles.fan   luna'sceiling that study can be found here: ...   Feb 16 2008, 11:41 AM
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- - davidenglish   Well, I know that SVA is not the face of Harry Pot...   Feb 16 2008, 11:47 AM
- - Hinoema   Does anyone have a link to that publishing contrac...   Feb 16 2008, 01:33 PM
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- - Hinoema   Thank you! *reads* This is interesting. The ...   Feb 16 2008, 02:48 PM
- - jmk132   luna'sceiling: I agree with your assessment of...   Feb 16 2008, 04:12 PM
- - davidenglish   Warner Bros is an assignee; it owns the film right...   Feb 16 2008, 04:31 PM
- - rotfang07   Thank you jmk132 Posts 86 and 94 once again for sh...   Feb 16 2008, 05:04 PM
|- - coweatyou   QUOTE(rotfang07 @ Feb 16 2008, 02:04 PM) ...   Feb 16 2008, 05:29 PM
- - davidenglish   Well, I don't have much respect for the egghea...   Feb 16 2008, 05:54 PM
|- - coweatyou   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Feb 16 2008, 02:54 P...   Feb 16 2008, 07:10 PM
- - Eir de Scania   QUOTEthis whole discussion is very much moot becau...   Feb 16 2008, 06:15 PM
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