Dumbledore's Trust, How'd he get like that? |
Oct 26 2006, 09:44 PM
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We all know about Dumbledore's trusting nature. But we also know that he defeated Grindelwald and was actively working against Voldemort. How can these two things mesh? If we look to Moody, another huge name in the anti-Dark Wizard group, he's completely paranoid. So how come Dumbledore is the exact opposite, being trusting to a fault?
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Oct 26 2006, 10:28 PM
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Perusing the Magical Menagerie![]() ![]() Posts: 82 Joined: 10:12pm October 22, 2006 |
Maybe its because Dumbledore is such a powerful wizard. Perhaps he has the ability to tell if someone is trustworthy or not.
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Oct 26 2006, 11:07 PM
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I think it's partly their personalities-Dumbledore is a really loving person who doesn't want to waste time being paranoid and never relax, he knows who to trust. Moody doesn't want to be wrong or make a mistake, I guess, so he's always paranoid. Dumbledore is more wise than Moody too. I just think that Dumbledore wouldn't want to waste his life worrying when often there's nothing actually worth worrying about.
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Oct 27 2006, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE We all know about Dumbledore's trusting nature. But we also know that he defeated Grindelwald and was actively working against Voldemort. How can these two things mesh? If we look to Moody, another huge name in the anti-Dark Wizard group, he's completely paranoid. So how come Dumbledore is the exact opposite, being trusting to a fault? Moody is on the front lines all the time - at the sharp end so to speak, and thus he would be more trigger happy. DD, on the other hand, has the leisure of relating to people, testing them out, and seeing if they are evil. Moody already knows who his enemy is, and that he is evil. Note also, that Moody must trust DD's judgement - he doesn't question anyone in the Order, or suspect them. -------------------- ~~Proud member of the Ingalwings Society~~ |
Oct 27 2006, 10:43 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall![]() Posts: 2 Joined: 1:06pm August 31, 2006 |
I think that he has a kind heart and want to see the good side of people and giving them a chance
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Oct 27 2006, 10:56 AM
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Well for starters, DD is a very powerful wizard and is considered to be the greatest wizard of modern times.
He has managed a lot of great feats, including: - He defeated the Dark Wizard Grindelwald in 1945 - He discovered the 12 uses of dragon's blood - He was the headmaster of Hogwarts School until his death - He has been awarded the Order of Merlin, First Class - He was the Supreme Mugwump of the International Confederation of Wizards - He was the Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot - He was invited to become the Minister of Magic on no less than four occasions (a post he declined each time). -He formed the OoTP -He can perform wandless spells and make himself invisible without a cloak -He is a legilimens - He successfully destroyed one of Voldemort's precious Horcruxes, removing at least one stumbling block in denying the Dark Lord his immortality. Also in PoA there is a passage that reads "DD, though very old, always gave an impression of great energy...he was often described as being one of the greatest wizards of his age, but that wasn't why Harry respected him, you just couldn't help trusting Albus DD" Maybe he was just one of those people you can be comfortable with and can talk to and you know that he will not divulge your secrets to anyone else... everyone has had an experience with someone like DD that you just instinctively know you can trust. Not only that , but DD was a role model for the pupils at his school. He was able to gain the respect of staff and students alike and could communicate with anyone and anything in the appropriate way - without offending anyone. Respect breeds trust...but respect cannot be demanded, it must be earned This post has been edited by melj1213: Oct 27 2006, 10:58 AM -------------------- *My name is Jean Valjean! * And I'm Javert. Do not forget me 24601! Long live Les Mis! ![]() ![]() Just because you've got the emotional range of a teaspoon, doesn't mean we all have!--Hermione |
Oct 27 2006, 11:22 AM
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Kibble Boy/Girl at the Magical Menagerie![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 288 Joined: 9:23am June 13, 2006 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I also often wonder how DD could be so trusting, not only towards Snape.
I guess it's just because he met many different kinds of witches and wizards, he knew how they acted in certain situations and probably also imagined what they thought. Maybe he was also something similar to an empath? Harry often had the feeling that DD was x-raying him ... I dunno, strange really. I doubt I could be that trusting. *edited to remove trick or treat This post has been edited by Moose_Starr: Nov 1 2006, 09:25 AM -------------------- Wisdom doesn't automatically come with old age. Nothing does - except wrinkles. It's true, some wines improve with age. But only if the grapes were good in the first place. Abigail Van Buren |
Nov 2 2006, 09:06 PM
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I think a big reason why DD trusted so easily had a lot to do with his age. While both he and Moody had a lot of expierence dealing with Dark Wizards, DD is older than Moody, so it stands to reason he has had more life expierence with all sorts of wizards/witches .. probably much more so. With age comes knowledge. Moody is more inclined to distrust everyone/everything because of all the horrible things/people he's dealt with... instead of searching out the good, like DD does, Moody dwells on the bad.
The age thing may sound like a stupid theory to some, but I've known people ((perfect example is my papa)) .. who, because of their age and life expierence, has pretty good intuation about people. I also think because DD is such a powerful wizard he is able to read into people much easier than most. So while some may think his choices as far as trust is concerned is off, ((such as Snape)), he's able to look past appearances and see what many people can't or chose not to. -------------------- supporter of the: Rotfang Conspiracy taking over the Ministry with one Dark Curse & Diseased Gum at a time Lupin is my dream man. Because if we ever fought, afterwards - he'd give me choccie. and I love a man that understands the importance of choccie. <33 |
Nov 6 2006, 04:46 AM
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I think Dumbledore will often trust anyone if the prove to him that they are loyal and not wimpish. He was friends with Moody, and gave him a chance, which paid off. Simple as.
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Nov 6 2006, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(calalily @ Oct 27 2006, 10:37 AM) [snapback]990184[/snapback] QUOTE We all know about Dumbledore's trusting nature. But we also know that he defeated Grindelwald and was actively working against Voldemort. How can these two things mesh? If we look to Moody, another huge name in the anti-Dark Wizard group, he's completely paranoid. So how come Dumbledore is the exact opposite, being trusting to a fault? Moody is on the front lines all the time - at the sharp end so to speak, and thus he would be more trigger happy. DD, on the other hand, has the leisure of relating to people, testing them out, and seeing if they are evil. Moody already knows who his enemy is, and that he is evil. Note also, that Moody must trust DD's judgement - he doesn't question anyone in the Order, or suspect them. I agree with your post about Albus, however the part about Moody: QUOTE he doesn't question anyone in the Order, or suspect them. From the Lexicon: QUOTE From Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 'Mad Eye' Moody: "'Course Dumbledore trusts you," growled Moody. "He's a trusting man, isn't he? Believes in second chances. But me -- I say there are spots that don't come off, Snape. Spots that never come off, d' you know what I mean?" (GF25) Moody's attitude is that of an Auror who has had to fight many Death Eaters and he has the scars to prove it. Since Snape was a DE, I can understand Moody's prejudice and paranoia. Albus is a trusting man, because he has reasons to trust, whereas Moody has reasons to mistrust. |




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