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Education, K-12, vo-tech, undergrad, postgrad: What does right look like?
JohannMdlAmerica
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I've taken the liberty of spinning this off from the Obama appointment thread. Doris' question got me thinking a different way from discussing the new Administration players.

QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Dec 28 2008, 09:41 PM) *
Education Secretary:

I can't help but feel this person has quite a whole to dig us out of. I'm hoping for someone who is anti-standardized tests and has a more realistic view of education. How do you guys feel about his appointment of Chicago's Arne Duncan?

A none reformer, he's apparently given teacher's the leeway to try new things and pull them away from merely teaching a testing format. Here is what the Wall-Street Journal has to say about him

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The CEO of the Chicago public schools and the ultimate diplomat, Mr. Duncan rises to the rim at a moment when teachers unions are, for the first time, facing opposition within the Democratic Party from young idealists who favor education reform. They want to recapture what should always have been a natural issue for Democrats: helping underprivileged kids get out of failing public schools.


Apparently the guy is quite the basketball player too. biggrin.gif

What do you guys think of this appointment?


DorisTLC,

I know you're a teacher. How do we set our children up for success in this world. What should "right look like" at K-12? How do we avoid social promotion and undereducated young people leaving high school?

I'm not asking those from my usual Red perspective; our Nation needs well-educated young people entering the workforce, whether it happens after HS, vo-tech, undergrad, or grad school.

I agree standardized testing isn't the answer, but as someone who pays taxes (lots of taxes) for education, and as someone with a child in the system, I want to know the product coming out is competent and confident. Your thoughts on how we assure the graduate has a solid skillset?

What about the arts and physical education. I graduated HS in 1974, at that point PE was still a requirment throughout HS. Certainly I see the benefits (now all the more so) of a quality fine arts education, the discipline involved in learning theater, band or orchestra is simply amazing ot me.



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- JohannMdlAmerica   Education   Dec 29 2008, 09:49 AM
- - momwitch   I'll quote something from the other thread to ...   Dec 29 2008, 01:37 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   To a point I agree with you, momwitch. When I loo...   Dec 29 2008, 03:26 PM
- - DorisTLC   QUOTEHow do we set our children up for success in ...   Dec 29 2008, 03:38 PM
|- - JohannMdlAmerica   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Dec 29 2008, 02:38 PM) T...   Dec 29 2008, 04:34 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Dec 29 2008, 03...   Dec 29 2008, 06:26 PM
|- - fidelia   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Dec 29 2008, 06:26 PM) W...   Dec 30 2008, 03:44 PM
- - momwitch   I think that there is still a stigma attached to t...   Dec 30 2008, 02:11 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   fidelia, I think all of us agree standardized tes...   Dec 30 2008, 09:53 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Dec 30 2008, 08...   Dec 30 2008, 10:39 PM
|- - Lilly   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Dec 31 2008, 01:39 PM) T...   Jan 1 2009, 12:53 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   How come your name wasn't in the ring to be th...   Dec 30 2008, 11:05 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Dec 30 2008, 10...   Dec 30 2008, 11:28 PM
- - davidenglish   I really enjoyed Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers. ...   Dec 31 2008, 12:16 AM
- - lirene   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Dec 29 2008, 03:38 PM) V...   Dec 31 2008, 01:24 AM
|- - JohannMdlAmerica   QUOTE(lirene @ Dec 31 2008, 12:24 AM) How...   Dec 31 2008, 10:09 AM
|- - momwitch   QUOTE(lirene @ Dec 31 2008, 01:24 AM) It ...   Dec 31 2008, 10:35 AM
- - wordsaremagic   I work at the "end" of this metaphorical...   Jan 2 2009, 11:40 AM
- - davidenglish   Well, I'd like to relate a story from a visit ...   Jan 2 2009, 01:01 PM
|- - momwitch   QUOTE(davidenglish @ Jan 2 2009, 01:01 PM...   Jan 2 2009, 01:43 PM
- - chloe squibbulus   Education is tough subject... If I could pick one...   Jan 2 2009, 07:11 PM
|- - momwitch   QUOTE(chloe squibbulus @ Jan 2 2009, 07:1...   Jan 3 2009, 01:15 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   WaM, I agree with much of what you say. My pro...   Jan 2 2009, 07:57 PM
- - Canis sapiens   I don't know exactly how the system works in t...   Jan 3 2009, 01:23 AM
- - chloe squibbulus   I know that some universities take some of those t...   Jan 3 2009, 01:59 PM
- - DorisTLC   There are so many awesome things in here I can...   Jan 6 2009, 01:27 PM
- - Love4Fawkes   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Dec 29 2008, 04...   Jan 6 2009, 08:38 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   LFF, From my perspective, I've seen some of t...   Jan 6 2009, 09:09 PM
- - tiddlywinks   This is a tough subject for me because I am the wi...   Jan 6 2009, 09:41 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   tiddlywinks, You've hit two of the problems f...   Jan 6 2009, 09:52 PM
- - tiddlywinks   If only we could somehow get the powers that be to...   Jan 6 2009, 10:02 PM
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|- - momwitch   QUOTE(tiddlywinks @ Jan 6 2009, 10:02 PM)...   Jan 7 2009, 06:58 AM
||- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(momwitch @ Jan 7 2009, 05:58 AM) Or...   Jan 11 2009, 10:14 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(tiddlywinks @ Jan 6 2009, 09:02 PM)...   Jan 12 2009, 06:36 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   For whatever it is worth... It's a new legisl...   Jan 11 2009, 10:25 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Jan 11 2009, 09...   Jan 12 2009, 07:10 AM
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- - JohannMdlAmerica   Oh, the Obamater is going to be a good tool in the...   Jan 19 2009, 11:42 AM
- - DorisTLC   I'm looking forward to seeing some of these th...   Jan 19 2009, 11:35 PM
|- - wordsaremagic   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Jan 19 2009, 08:35 PM) I...   Jan 20 2009, 04:51 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(wordsaremagic @ Jan 20 2009, 03:51 ...   Jan 20 2009, 07:15 PM
|- - wordsaremagic   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Jan 20 2009, 04:15 PM) [...   Jan 21 2009, 12:24 AM
- - momwitch   QUOTENo. 246: Double funding for Federal Charter S...   Jan 20 2009, 03:41 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   momwitch and Doris, Here is what the BO website s...   Jan 20 2009, 04:41 PM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   Doris, What you mention is what I seek in a teach...   Jan 20 2009, 10:30 PM
- - DorisTLC   Here is an interesting article in the Washingtonpo...   Jan 30 2009, 07:10 AM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   Doris, Granted this is only one metric, but this ...   Jan 30 2009, 08:19 AM
- - momwitch   You didn't ask me this question directly, JMA,...   Jan 30 2009, 10:05 AM
|- - wordsaremagic   QUOTE(momwitch @ Jan 30 2009, 07:05 AM) Y...   Jan 30 2009, 02:35 PM
- - momwitch   I do think that within each subject or discipline ...   Jan 30 2009, 05:19 PM
|- - wordsaremagic   QUOTE(momwitch @ Jan 30 2009, 02:19 PM) I...   Jan 30 2009, 05:33 PM
|- - momwitch   QUOTE(wordsaremagic @ Jan 30 2009, 05:33 ...   Jan 31 2009, 12:37 PM
- - 'eresawitch   I'm horrible with these quote things, so bare ...   Jan 31 2009, 11:48 PM
- - DorisTLC   Sorry, MyLeaky has been keeping me a bit busy. JM...   Feb 1 2009, 09:53 PM
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- - George Weasley's Girlfriend   I have long wondered why people try to put childre...   Feb 2 2009, 04:32 PM
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- - JohannMdlAmerica   OK, I'm prejuidiced, and perhaps jaded. I was...   Feb 2 2009, 11:02 PM
|- - DorisTLC   QUOTE(JohannMdlAmerica @ Feb 2 2009, 10:0...   Feb 4 2009, 12:31 AM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   The California budget deal caused me to find this ...   Jul 22 2009, 09:40 AM
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- - JohannMdlAmerica   wordsaremagic If I did not know better, I would s...   Jul 26 2009, 03:31 PM
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- - DorisTLC   I'm snipping quotes from some of the above pos...   Jul 27 2009, 09:51 PM
|- - momwitch   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Jul 27 2009, 10:51 PM) I...   Jul 28 2009, 12:10 PM
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|- - JohannMdlAmerica   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Aug 3 2009, 10:18 PM) Th...   Aug 4 2009, 08:40 AM
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|- - JohannMdlAmerica   QUOTE(DorisTLC @ Aug 4 2009, 11:06 PM) On...   Aug 5 2009, 09:47 AM
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