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Education, Teachers, Tests and Testy Teachers
Flora Lovegood
post Jul 22 2009, 07:28 PM
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Hogwarts is, of course, a school and the theme of Education figures in all of the books. From the beginning, there was disagreement on what and whom to teach, especially between Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin. It seems that since then, though, not much had changed in the school except the names of the Headmasters, and all four houses have contributed to a well-run school, except for a slight difficulty in keeping the Defense Against the Dark Arts position filled.

In Order of the Phoenix, we meet Dolores Umbridge, arguably the most evil teacher created in literature, as the newest DADA teacher, assigned by the Minister of Magic himself. Umbridge begins the year with a speech about the need for changes at Hogwart's with a "balance between old and new…between tradition and innovation" (OotP, Scholastic hdbk, 213). After she is named the Hogwarts High Inquisitor, Educational Decrees are passed at an amazing rate and the school becomes a government-run institution, with teachers being dismissed, including Dumbledore himself. The students and even teachers rebel against Umbridge's authority, which includes the use of corporal punishment.

Meanwhile, the fifth year students are also dealing with the pressure of O.W.L.S., exams which establish what classes they will take in their upper years and what career track they will follow. There's a lot stress and anxiety, especially when Umbridge refuses to teach practical defense tactics to the students. We see the clash between teaching methods of teachers. We also see just how important education is for many of the students, especially the members of Dumbledore's Army, who secretly meet in order to teach and learn with each other.

Let's look closer at Education in the Harry Potter books, especially OotP.


  • Is there any sense to Umbridge's declaration that "progress for progress's sake must be discouraged, for our tried and true traditions often require no tinkering." (Scholastic, 213) Do traditional methods like recitation and memorization work?
  • Does the takeover of the school by the Ministry remind you of any current events? Do you think JK Rowling is trying to make a point about education systems and/or the government? What do you think the Ministry's role should be at Hogwarts?
  • Do any of the teachers remind you of your own educators? There are several different teaching methods shown. Which do you think is the most effective?
  • What do the O.W.L.S. tests remind you of in our own education systems? What about the testing anxiety which is shown? Is this healthy stress? Should students be "taught to the test"?
  • The students are admittedly not always on their best behavior. Why do you think Rowling shows them slacking off almost as often as she shows them working hard? Is she encouraging "skiving off" with all of Fred and George's snackboxes?


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Eva Hedwig
post Aug 1 2009, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Flora Lovegood @ Jul 23 2009, 12:28 AM) *
[*]The students are admittedly not always on their best behavior. Why do you think Rowling shows them slacking off almost as often as she shows them working hard? Is she encouraging "skiving off" with all of Fred and George's snackboxes?

Nice and interesting thread, 'Flora Lovegood' smile.gif

For the defense of the Skiving Snackboxes I would argue that they are designed to avoid boring classes.
But as theory is always easier than the real life, snackboxes wouldn't and couldn't be used in every class.
I am sure that few people would like to miss classes with Flickwick and less would dare to sneak out with Minerva or Snape.


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In OoP we meet Dolores Umbridge, arguably the most evil teacher created in literature, as the newest DADA teacher, assigned by the Minister of Magic himself.


Mhh, depends what you call evil. Umbridge is openly evil but we have two other teachers who are more evil and in a hidden way. One is Quirrell, and the other is Barty jr. both placed there by V. to enable to kill Harry. Snape is there on V. orders also, but he decided to serve DD instead wink.gif He is not evil, but mean.

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Ravenclaw_Runner92: I think JK shows us that the three best teachers are Minerva Sprout and Flitwick because those are the heads of house.


Snape is exellent also and head of Slytherin, the same goes for Slughorn.

About education in general: I grew up in Austria, 95 % of the schools are from the government and they have a very good quality. Living in Latinamerica I decided to send my kids to privat schools as the public schools are lacking quality.

The advantage of privat schools is that you can choose what kind of education you want for your kids.
I choose alternative education with arts and creative classes and I am happy about the outcome.


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- Flora Lovegood   Education   Jul 22 2009, 07:28 PM
- - Scarlet Rose16   My 6th grade English teacher taught everything to ...   Jul 22 2009, 10:05 PM
- - merrythought   What a great topic, Flora Lovegood! I do en...   Jul 23 2009, 10:31 AM
- - HealerOne   It truly is amazing the many different teaching st...   Jul 26 2009, 10:44 PM
- - WinterWitch   Anyone who is involved with school, either as a pa...   Jul 27 2009, 10:41 PM
- - Fricka   Hello! Fricka, the friendly butterfly, is flit...   Jul 29 2009, 08:15 AM
- - Ravenclaw_Runner92   Just poppin and would like to throw my two cents i...   Aug 1 2009, 08:51 AM
- - easeup   QUOTE(Ravenclaw_Runner92 @ Aug 1 2009, 09...   Aug 2 2009, 04:44 PM
- - Flora Lovegood   I am so glad people are enjoying this thread! ...   Aug 3 2009, 11:52 AM
- - merrythought   I just love the scenes of Umbridge evaluating McGo...   Aug 4 2009, 07:57 AM
- - WinterWitch   ~When Umbridge inspects the teachers, we get to se...   Aug 5 2009, 04:43 PM
- - easeup   I agree with you WinterWitch that teachers do need...   Aug 7 2009, 11:54 AM
- - Flora Lovegood   I know it has been awhile, but I think the chapter...   Sep 1 2009, 08:16 AM
- - HealerOne   QUOTE(Flora Lovegood @ Sep 1 2009, 09:16 ...   Sep 2 2009, 08:11 PM
- - Flora Lovegood   I agree that the connection through the scar did p...   Sep 19 2009, 10:19 AM
- - easeup   You have brought up something important here Flora...   Oct 4 2009, 04:57 PM
- - Quibbler Reader   While some control should be held over schools, I ...   Mar 10 2010, 09:59 PM


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