Ginny instead of Hermione?, What would have happened if Ginny and Ron were twins? |
 Jan 21 2009, 10:19 PM
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Firstly...I wasn't sure which forum was the appropriate one for this, so my apologies if I chose the wrong one!
So, after reading through the "Who is Harry's real best friend?" thread, I got to thinking about the things that make Ron more fun to be around than Hermione (but no less of a friend!!), for Harry. There's the fact that Ron shares Harry's love of Quidditch, he loves jokes and pranks as much as Harry, and he has the same aversion to homework, to name but a few! So I got to thinking, what would have happened if Ginny and Ron were twins? If Ginny were in the same year as Ron and Harry and hung around with them more from the start, do you think Harry and Ron would even have become friends with Hermione? Ginny loves Quidditch just like the boys do, and she certainly knows how to have fun (she's more inclined top pull pranks and practical jokes than Hermione is) and she wouldn't be off in the library all the time. On top of that, she has a lot of Hermione's qualities too. She's smart (though probably not as smart as Hermione), she's resourceful (remember her plan to divert Umbridge so Harry can use the fire in her office?) and she's definitely brave (as we also see in OotP with her insistence to accompany them to the Ministry, not to mention joining the fights in HBP and DH). So, if Ginny had hung around with Harry and Ron right from the start, would she have taken Hermione's place? What do you guys think? -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Jan 21 2009, 10:33 PM
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Kibble Boy/Girl at the Magical Menagerie  Posts: 272 Joined: 11:47am January 2, 2009 Location: At Hogwarts by day, on Broadway by night... |
Well, we have to remember the troll scene, which Jo fought for b/c it brought the trio together, so I would have to say, yes, b/c of that.
-------------------- Harry looked around; there was Ginny running toward him; she had a hard, blazing look in her face as she threw her arms around him. And without thinking, without planning it, without worrying about the fact that fifty people were watching, Harry kissed her.
-HBP pg. 533 |
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Jan 21 2009, 10:50 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer Posts: 896 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy |
QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 10:33 PM)  Well, we have to remember the troll scene, which Jo fought for b/c it brought the trio together, so I would have to say, yes, b/c of that. Well, that's a good point. But, perhaps even after Harry and Ron (and possibly Ginny if she was part of their group!) had saved Hermione from the troll, they might have gone their separate ways if there was alreadya girl in the group. On the other hand, Perhaps having two girls might have evened things out? Though, unfortunately, I doubt it because Ginny seems to take Harry's side more than Hermione's. Poor Hermione, I feel sorry for her now! 
-------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Jan 21 2009, 11:13 PM
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Kibble Boy/Girl at the Magical Menagerie Posts: 272 Joined: 11:47am January 2, 2009 Location: At Hogwarts by day, on Broadway by night... |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Jan 21 2009, 10:50 PM) QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 10:33 PM) Well, we have to remember the troll scene, which Jo fought for b/c it brought the trio together, so I would have to say, yes, b/c of that. Well, that's a good point. But, perhaps even after Harry and Ron (and possibly Ginny if she was part of their group!) had saved Hermione from the troll, they might have gone their separate ways if there was alreadya girl in the group. On the other hand, Perhaps having two girls might have evened things out? Though, unfortunately, I doubt it because Ginny seems to take Harry's side more than Hermione's. Poor Hermione, I feel sorry for her now! but you have to remember the last sentence of that chapter... "There are some things you can't go through without becoming friends, and fighting a 10 foot troll is one of them." (or something like that, Im going off of memory!) -------------------- Harry looked around; there was Ginny running toward him; she had a hard, blazing look in her face as she threw her arms around him. And without thinking, without planning it, without worrying about the fact that fifty people were watching, Harry kissed her.
-HBP pg. 533 |
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Jan 21 2009, 11:27 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer Posts: 896 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy |
QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 11:13 PM) QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Jan 21 2009, 10:50 PM) QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 10:33 PM) Well, we have to remember the troll scene, which Jo fought for b/c it brought the trio together, so I would have to say, yes, b/c of that. Well, that's a good point. But, perhaps even after Harry and Ron (and possibly Ginny if she was part of their group!) had saved Hermione from the troll, they might have gone their separate ways if there was alreadya girl in the group. On the other hand, Perhaps having two girls might have evened things out? Though, unfortunately, I doubt it because Ginny seems to take Harry's side more than Hermione's. Poor Hermione, I feel sorry for her now! but you have to remember the last sentence of that chapter... "There are some things you can't go through without becoming friends, and fighting a 10 foot troll is one of them." (or something like that, Im going off of memory!) Another good point! You and I will have settled this debate before anyone else gets chance to join in!  Perhaps then, if Ginny were already there, they would have become a quartet? -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Jan 22 2009, 01:19 AM
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Rat Spleen Restocker at the Apothecary Posts: 494 Joined: 10:29pm August 9, 2008 Location: Sending Ginny a Hogwarts Toilet Seat |
If Ginny had ( for some reason ) replaced Hermione completely in the series, I don't think Ron and Harry would have made it that far without being killed first. Hermione is needed, beacause shes really smart and knows spells to get others out of a tight situation. Though Ginny's smart, shes not Hermione smart and thats what Ron and Harry need.
But if Ron and Ginny were twins they probably wouldn't want to hang out together. I'm a twin and I wouldn't choose to hang out with my brother as a friend. Its diffrent for just brothers and sisters because theres not as much rivalry between them. And I'm of course talking boy/girl twins, because most of the same gender twins are friends. I don't know of any diffrent gender twins who are friends. And ofcourse the reason stated above ( Yup, that debate was over fast with just one answer from Loony1393  )
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Jan 22 2009, 10:26 AM
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Kibble Boy/Girl at the Magical Menagerie Posts: 272 Joined: 11:47am January 2, 2009 Location: At Hogwarts by day, on Broadway by night... |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Jan 21 2009, 11:27 PM) QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 11:13 PM) QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Jan 21 2009, 10:50 PM) QUOTE(Loony1393 @ Jan 21 2009, 10:33 PM) Well, we have to remember the troll scene, which Jo fought for b/c it brought the trio together, so I would have to say, yes, b/c of that. Well, that's a good point. But, perhaps even after Harry and Ron (and possibly Ginny if she was part of their group!) had saved Hermione from the troll, they might have gone their separate ways if there was alreadya girl in the group. On the other hand, Perhaps having two girls might have evened things out? Though, unfortunately, I doubt it because Ginny seems to take Harry's side more than Hermione's. Poor Hermione, I feel sorry for her now! but you have to remember the last sentence of that chapter... "There are some things you can't go through without becoming friends, and fighting a 10 foot troll is one of them." (or something like that, Im going off of memory!) Another good point! You and I will have settled this debate before anyone else gets chance to join in! Perhaps then, if Ginny were already there, they would have become a quartet? I think so, afterall, she did become closer to them around the 5th book, especially in the summer at the burrow, it probably would have been like that all the time if they had been twins -------------------- Harry looked around; there was Ginny running toward him; she had a hard, blazing look in her face as she threw her arms around him. And without thinking, without planning it, without worrying about the fact that fifty people were watching, Harry kissed her.
-HBP pg. 533 |
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Jan 22 2009, 10:53 AM
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Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 615 Joined: 12:38pm January 26, 2007 Location: Sacsahuamán's Magical Academy |
In order to compensate, Hermione shoulde be a year younger (or older, i prefer the former)... that's it, to keep the fixed number of students in Harry's year.
Would this mean Hermione will become tainted by the horcrux? or even she'll become Mrs. Potter? Let me think a lot more about this scenario & i'll be back with more to write. ;) |
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Jan 22 2009, 11:08 AM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic  Posts: 9,193 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Jan 22 2009, 03:50 AM) On the other hand, Perhaps having two girls might have evened things out? Though, unfortunately, I doubt it because Ginny seems to take Harry's side more than Hermione's. Ginny sides with Harry on one particular occasion when Hermione is in her full "I told you so" mode and not helping. On another occasion Ginny is siding with everyone else against Harry when he is sulking after hearing Voldemort might be possessing him. So I don't think she is particularly biased against Harry.The trio could easily have become a quartet, assuming Ron and Ginny were close (and having lessons togther might help that) but of course you would have to rewrite the whole of CoS because it was Ginny's insecurities and unrequited love for Harry that left her open to attack by the diary, and I can't see that being the same if she was closer to Harry, Hermione and Ron, or at the very least she would have tried to tell them about the diary much earlier. --------------------  W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Jan 23 2009, 06:16 PM
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One Half of the DDD  Posts: 8,481 Joined: 5:31pm August 30, 2006 Location: Siriusly Dreaming Somewhere |
As this is a discussion focussing on speculation rather than actual events in the books we're going to move over to the Predicting the Unpredictable forum to continue.
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