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Grindelwald and Voldemort! Coicidence?, How does Dumbledore fit in?
PhoenixFire
post Jan 23 2006, 03:44 PM
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According to the timeline by HP Lexicon Harry Potter was born in 1980 and the events of book four happen in 1994. In "The Riddle House" the events of the deaths occur 50 years before making that year 1944 which would be the year that Tom Riddle made his first big move toward the dark arts.

1945 (one year later) is the year claimed to be the year Dumbeldore brought down the dark wizard Grindelwald who was supposed to be the voldemort of his time.

Is this a big coincidence or is Voldemort following the path of Grindelwald? Is it possible that they knew each other and maybe Voldemort knows something we don't? And does the year have any big coicidence with WWII and Hitler?

How did Dumbledore kill him? will it help with defeating voldemort?


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- PhoenixFire   Grindelwald and Voldemort! Coicidence?   Jan 23 2006, 03:44 PM
- - ~Mokey   I think it has to do with balance.  There has...   Jan 23 2006, 10:41 PM
- - You_won't_know_who   I think Grindelwald was important to Tom, even if ...   Jan 24 2006, 07:39 AM
- - Eleonore   Well, that's an interesting idea! It never...   Jan 25 2006, 08:00 AM
- - CopernicusKid   In that interview on this website JK said there mi...   Jan 25 2006, 02:09 PM
- - Princessing_Cat   There has been speculation that it was from Grinde...   Jan 31 2006, 12:25 AM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEHow did Dumbledore kill him? will it help wit...   Jan 31 2006, 01:34 PM
- - andy the house elf   I just think it's a coincidence. Tom grew up i...   Jan 31 2006, 01:57 PM
- - doobie   or the "idol" Tom wanted to follow and o...   Jan 31 2006, 02:02 PM
- - stinkywinky   This whole idea of Grindelwald and Tom has caused ...   Jan 31 2006, 02:05 PM
|- - missmurasaki826   QUOTE(stinkywinky @ Jan 31 2006, 07:05 PM...   Mar 25 2006, 12:32 AM
|- - Constance   QUOTE(missmurasaki826 @ Mar 25 2006, 12:3...   Apr 25 2006, 02:04 PM
- - Arianhrod   Well, evil will never be wiped out. It might be pu...   Jan 31 2006, 02:08 PM
- - memyslfnI   I too like A's version.. There is only room fo...   Jan 31 2006, 02:12 PM
- - Dobby2dmax   First of all: THANX FOR THE INSPIRATION... By read...   Feb 1 2006, 05:48 AM
- - You_won't_know_who   QUOTE(Dobby2dmax @ Feb. 01 2006,05:48 ) First...   Feb 1 2006, 05:52 AM
- - Dobby2dmax   QUOTE(You_won't_know_who @ Feb. 01 2006,1...   Feb 1 2006, 06:03 AM
- - Whoisthisharrypotteranyway   It is possible that maybe Grindelwald and Hitler w...   Feb 7 2006, 01:08 PM
- - ~JulieNeola~   Actually it might be possible that LV somehow met ...   Feb 7 2006, 08:15 PM
- - Dobby2dmax   Well the how about this... Hitler never existed.....   Feb 8 2006, 06:26 PM
|- - Hedwig's mouse   QUOTE(Dobby2dmax @ Feb 8 2006, 06:26 PM) ...   May 14 2006, 07:50 PM
- - Muus   I mean to remember that JKR said in an interview t...   Feb 8 2006, 08:07 PM
- - NewToThis   QUOTE"I think it has to do with balance.  The...   Feb 8 2006, 10:26 PM
- - Mistressofthedarkarts   Ari's idea on Tom killing Grindelwald is very ...   Feb 9 2006, 12:13 AM
- - pscspagfophbp   the similarties between Voldemort and Grindelvald ...   Feb 9 2006, 10:02 AM
- - DearYou   If you'll allow an opinion from a very new guy...   Feb 9 2006, 07:19 PM
- - CrAzY_Bunette   I dont really think that Grindalwald and Voldermor...   Feb 9 2006, 08:23 PM
- - pscspagfophbp   QUOTE(DearYou @ Feb. 09 2006,19:19 ) If you...   Feb 10 2006, 01:25 AM
- - NewToThis   QUOTEAri's idea on Tom killing Grindelwald is ...   Feb 10 2006, 02:02 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEI think it is an intriguing idea, but I just ...   Feb 10 2006, 02:39 PM
- - NewToThis   Yes, you are right.  I have been equating defeat w...   Feb 10 2006, 04:46 PM
- - Dobby2dmax   That could very well be... After getting the inf...   Feb 10 2006, 06:17 PM
- - pscspagfophbp   Actually yes because Dumbledore 'defeated ...   Feb 11 2006, 03:43 AM
- - ~JulieNeola~   I agree with those posters that have said LV was s...   Feb 12 2006, 11:46 PM
- - spirit007   Well, Yeah, LV is the most powerful. In those past...   Mar 30 2006, 10:38 AM
- - bubs   This is my first post on this board (work having b...   Apr 7 2006, 03:03 PM
- - hpbooksrule   My theory: Harry needs to find a way to detory LV....   Apr 8 2006, 09:32 PM
- - PrincessJoJo   I think DD would not have killed Grindewald, but c...   Apr 9 2006, 04:07 PM
- - aSiNx3   Just a random thought... what if Harry is the next...   Apr 25 2006, 02:21 PM
- - AnnaK   I won't speculate on the relationship between ...   May 4 2006, 10:58 AM
- - SoonerGryffindor   Excellent post AnnaK, and you really got me thinki...   May 4 2006, 12:47 PM
- - pixey   I just posted in the other thread here that I beli...   May 4 2006, 07:23 PM
- - mako   I forgot who said it but someone had posted that V...   May 14 2006, 05:11 PM
- - pixey   Grindelwald died in 1945, Tom opened the chamber i...   May 15 2006, 10:29 AM
- - mako   I just figured it out when i went to the lexicon o...   May 15 2006, 06:51 PM
- - pixey   I had thought about the same thing in regards to M...   May 15 2006, 10:12 PM
- - QuoththeRaven   Wouldn't it be a facinating twist if young Tom...   May 16 2006, 01:08 PM
- - pixey   It would be in Tom's character to get as much ...   May 16 2006, 01:59 PM
- - MysteriaSleuthbeder   Since the title of the thread is Grindelwald and V...   May 18 2006, 03:09 AM
- - mako   I think Grindelald has only a small part to play a...   May 18 2006, 04:33 PM
- - Arianhrod   Pixey, I've been saying the same thing about T...   May 19 2006, 12:46 PM
|- - sweetcheeky   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ May 19 2006, 06:46 PM) ...   May 19 2006, 01:00 PM
|- - mako   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ May 19 2006, 12:46 PM) ...   May 21 2006, 01:26 AM
- - Arianhrod   Not necessarily. The memory would be 50 years old,...   May 22 2006, 01:39 PM
- - Ken H   Hi All - First Post About LV & Grindelwald - ...   May 23 2006, 03:54 PM
- - phineas nigellus black   @Ken H: that would only be possible if all our ded...   May 24 2006, 04:54 PM
- - phineas nigellus black   Ah one remark I forgot: I assume that the diary wa...   May 24 2006, 05:07 PM
- - Zimrahil Malfoy   You're right that Riddle couldn't have gai...   May 24 2006, 07:54 PM
- - pixey   I do believe that Grindelwald would share the info...   Jun 19 2006, 04:38 PM
- - Ruggles   I'm late coming into this thread but it's ...   Jun 20 2006, 11:54 AM
- - marielle   Please stay on topic the subject of the topic is G...   Jun 21 2006, 08:22 AM
- - Richard_V   There have been discussions of Grindelwald before ...   Jun 21 2006, 08:54 AM
- - Smartaps   I'm sure that we'll hear something about ...   Jun 22 2006, 03:25 AM
- - big lad taz   I thibk that after DD defeated GW that ... now thi...   Jul 19 2006, 10:41 AM
- - ZephrynDrouhin   Arianhrod - I really like your theory that Dumbled...   Jul 19 2006, 04:09 PM
- - Anti_Silver   I really doubt that Grindenwald told Voldie anythi...   Jul 20 2006, 02:57 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEWe don't see LV taking people under his w...   Jul 20 2006, 03:05 PM
- - Anti_Silver   QUOTEQUOTE We don't see LV taking people under...   Jul 20 2006, 03:58 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEYeah, but I don't put too much stock into...   Jul 21 2006, 02:48 PM
- - marielle   I know the discussion is very interesting, but ple...   Jul 21 2006, 10:33 PM
|- - Pat_Rorrythe   QUOTE(marielle @ Jul 22 2006, 05:33 AM) 8...   Sep 5 2006, 03:10 PM
- - cjopbj   I think Grindlewald and Snape are somehow connecte...   Sep 7 2006, 09:42 PM
- - Pat_Rorrythe   But in the same time, Snape is much younger than V...   Sep 12 2006, 02:13 PM
|- - cjopbj   QUOTE(Pat_Rorrythe @ Sep 12 2006, 07:13 P...   Sep 18 2006, 01:20 PM
- - lillibet   With relation to the question as to whether GW wou...   Sep 14 2006, 11:54 AM
- - Pat_Rorrythe   Yes, I have read this theory, from Arianrhod if I ...   Sep 14 2006, 05:28 PM
- - montims   As we don't know when or where Grindelwald die...   Sep 14 2006, 10:47 PM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEAs we don't know when or where Grindelwal...   Sep 18 2006, 02:58 PM
- - TallerThanYou   QUOTEIf white sorceres help each other, don't ...   Sep 18 2006, 03:24 PM
|- - Arianhrod   QUOTE(TallerThanYou @ Sep 18 2006, 04:24 ...   Sep 18 2006, 07:50 PM
|- - Pat_Rorrythe   In a way, Voldemort could be to Grindenwald what H...   Sep 19 2006, 04:41 PM
- - firephoenix   QUOTE(cjopbj Posted Sep 18 2006 @ 01:20 PM )...   Sep 22 2006, 08:38 PM
- - ~Voldie~   But DD defeated Grindelwald, it said on his card. ...   Sep 24 2006, 10:05 AM
- - Pat_Rorrythe   An argument to say that Voldemort migth have kille...   Sep 24 2006, 04:17 PM
- - pjed   I also think it is the balance. Grindelwald was t...   Sep 25 2006, 12:01 AM
- - ~Voldie~   If there was a prophecy then it wouldn't have ...   Sep 28 2006, 12:52 PM
- - FredFan   Dumbledore has taught Harry quite a bit about the ...   Oct 11 2006, 07:31 AM
|- - Arianhrod   QUOTE(FredFan @ Oct 11 2006, 08:31 AM) 97...   Oct 12 2006, 10:09 AM
- - memyslfnI   I think that Tom Riddle welcomed the transformatio...   Oct 12 2006, 10:41 AM
- - FredFan   QUOTE(Arianhrod @ Oct 12 2006, 11:09 AM) ...   Oct 12 2006, 11:47 AM
- - Arianhrod   QUOTEI agree that he may have wanted to quiz Grind...   Oct 12 2006, 12:35 PM
- - Pat_Rorrythe   If Grindewald made only one horcruxe, so, to defea...   Oct 12 2006, 04:56 PM
- - Norwegian hp   But if we assume that the way to make a horcrux is...   Oct 22 2006, 02:58 AM
- - ~Voldie~   DD does think he "defeated" Grindelwald....   Oct 22 2006, 07:11 AM
- - Norwegian hp   Im also confused, everything is fitting too well t...   Oct 22 2006, 12:50 PM
- - dompeldoris's_favourite   Through the series we start to realize that there ...   Nov 11 2006, 09:42 AM
- - Norwegian hp   I have many theories about Grindelwald and Dumbled...   Nov 11 2006, 12:12 PM
- - Terrilein   I'm confused - is this Cassandra supposed to b...   Nov 11 2006, 12:35 PM
- - dompeldoris's_favourite   QUOTE(Norwegian hp @ Nov 11 2006, 07:12 P...   Nov 12 2006, 02:16 AM
- - Norwegian hp   My theories is a bit too off topic in this tread ...   Nov 12 2006, 05:00 AM
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