Harry's Heroic Journey, The end of his journey |
 Jun 20 2007, 09:31 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 4 Joined: 5:51pm June 11, 2007  |
If this is about whether Harry will live or die, then here goes my thoughts...or thought (singular)..
Joanne Rowlings favorite author is Jane Austen. Austen always had a happy ending in her books. Therefore Harry lives, period.[size=3] |
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Jun 24 2007, 07:24 PM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 175 Joined: 9:53am August 6, 2005 Location: Third piece o' rock from Sol, North American continent, US of A, midwest |
After reading the spoiler policy editorial (which I agree with 1000%!!!), a poem started coming to me. I know it’s labeled as a prayer, and is modeled after a real prayer, but after all, these books are works of fiction, however wonderful they are. It’s not intended to be a real prayer, it’s intended to express emotions many of us are feeling, and it’s intended to let us laugh at ourselves. I know some people won’t accept the fact that the poem merely uses a prayer as it’s foundation. They won’t accept the truth that it’s simply an entertaining way of expressing what many if not most of us are feeling about Book 7, but I can’t do anything about that. All I can do is offer the poem, and hope that it will make you laugh as much as it’s made me laugh…!
The Pottermania Prayer Our Harry, who triumphs in Book 7, Hallowed be thy story. [pun intended] Thy freedom will come, Thy wish will be done in Book 7, as it is our Heaven. Give us July 21 our long-awaited bread, And forgive us our theories, As we forgive those who theory against us. SPOIL US NOT, despite temptation, Or we will deliver you unto the evil lawyers! [No promises on your physical condition upon delivery to said evil lawyers.] Happy Reading! -------------------- Some people have a king-sized bed, some people have a queen-sized bed. I have a court jester-sized bed. It's red and green, and has little bells on it. And the edges curl up. - Stephen Wright
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 Jun 26 2007, 09:40 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 4 Joined: 9:20pm June 26, 2007 |
 I don't think Harry will die for a couple of reasons. #1- First of all, if J.K Rowling did kill off Harry, everyone would be really mad and some may even go after her, and her reputation would go down A LOT! #2- What a lot of people are forgetting is that Harry Potter is a kid's book, so she can't make the bad guy win and the good guy get killed! -------------------- Sometimes my friends wish I never heard of Harry Potter! *sigh*
But that doesn't stop me! |
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Jun 29 2007, 02:20 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 107 Joined: 10:51am June 13, 2007 Location: At Hogwarts in the forest, teaching a couple of trolls the Hogwarts song  |
wow good essay. i love reading about the heros journey but i dont think (and hope) harry will be killed
-------------------- Mrs. Weasley let out a shriek just like Hermione's.
"I don't believe it! Oh, Ron, how wonderful! A prefect! That's everyone in the family!" "What are Fred and I, next-door neighbours?" said George indignantly, as his mother pushed him aside and flung her arms around her youngest son. |
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Jul 7 2007, 12:18 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 15 Joined: 1:27pm December 25, 2006 |
Ms. Lawson's arguments are strong, but there are other Heroic archetypes
1) The Hero comes from two different worlds This is a basis of Heroic tales from the first - Moses, born a slave but raised a prince. The recent incarnations include John Wayne's Ethan Edwards in "The Searchers" - A soldier and cowboy who nonetheless speaks Navajo and knows the Indian ways. Raymond Chandler wrote it best - "Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean.” Sonny Corlione, the math major who takes over the family. Harry certainly comes from two different worlds - he's a mudblood, who spent more than half his life living as a muggle. The interesting thing is that under this archetype, once the hero does his great task, he can't live among his community anymore. God shows Moses the promised land but he is not allowed to enter there. John Wayne returns Natalie Wood to her family and home, but in the last shot can't walk through the door with them - he turns around and leaves. Frodo joins Gandalf on the last boat to the West, leaving the Shire forever. This is the greatest sacrifice of the Hero. More than just his life, he give up everything in the end. He must walk away from the thing he desires most - the community he has come to love. If this archetype holds true, it would give support to those that believe Harry will lose - or willingly give up - his Wizard powers in the end. Whether it's the scar as horcrux (which can be destroyed only by destroying all the magical powers of the vessel) or some other variant, Harry will end up as the BOY that lived - not the Wizard that lived. 2) The sidekick dies. It's a cliche in American movies that the last place you want to be is next to the Hero. The sidekick is the one that gets killed at the end of the second act - the act of that finally convinces the Hero that the gloves are off, it's a fight to the death, and that the Heroic thing to do is to well and truly kill the villain without hesitation. It's the moment when the Hero is finally, completely, alone. It's also the moment when we - the audience - are moved to the point that WE want the villain dead, and will worry about the morality later. The question is - who's the sidekick? In Harry's world all the secondary players have formed small communities of their own. Ron and Hermionie are now a couple, Ginny is still part of the Weasley family. I believe Harry's sidekick is Dobby. Dobby is loyal to a fault, comparatively unskilled and unthinking, yet he IS capable of significant magic. Dobby would instantly sacrifice himself not just to save Harry, but to give Harry another few moments of life. Thus, I suspect Dobby will apparate into the fray and take a fatal blow meant for Harry. This gives Harry the moral imperative to use an unforgivable curse - and mean it. |
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Jul 15 2007, 01:15 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 1 Joined: 1:05am July 15, 2007 |
The Beginning of the Witches Year:
"When the Veil Between the Worlds grows thin and the spirits of the dead may return to Earth" Im not sure if anyone has already posted a topic about this.. but i was just wondering if anyone would like to give me there opinions on the above statement i have given.. perhaps we could turn it into another theory.. in regards to the 'veil' in which Sirius dies and then disappears? This post has been edited by Ray-Dawn: Jul 15 2007, 01:25 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:10 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 2 Joined: 1:25pm July 16, 2007 |
QUOTE(barmyoldcodger @ Jun 24 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]1272591[/snapback] After reading the spoiler policy editorial (which I agree with 1000%!!!), a poem started coming to me. I know it’s labeled as a prayer, and is modeled after a real prayer, but after all, these books are works of fiction, however wonderful they are. It’s not intended to be a real prayer, it’s intended to express emotions many of us are feeling, and it’s intended to let us laugh at ourselves. I know some people won’t accept the fact that the poem merely uses a prayer as it’s foundation. They won’t accept the truth that it’s simply an entertaining way of expressing what many if not most of us are feeling about Book 7, but I can’t do anything about that. All I can do is offer the poem, and hope that it will make you laugh as much as it’s made me laugh…! The Pottermania Prayer Our Harry, who triumphs in Book 7, Hallowed be thy story. [pun intended] Thy freedom will come, Thy wish will be done in Book 7, as it is our Heaven. Give us July 21 our long-awaited bread, And forgive us our theories, As we forgive those who theory against us. SPOIL US NOT, despite temptation, Or we will deliver you unto the evil lawyers! [No promises on your physical condition upon delivery to said evil lawyers.] Happy Reading! jajajjajaja Amen! |
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Jul 18 2007, 05:34 AM
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Kibble Boy/Girl at the Magical Menagerie Posts: 298 Joined: 11:39am July 15, 2007 |
QUOTE(Ray-Dawn @ Jul 15 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]1308317[/snapback] The Beginning of the Witches Year: "When the Veil Between the Worlds grows thin and the spirits of the dead may return to Earth" Im not sure if anyone has already posted a topic about this.. but i was just wondering if anyone would like to give me there opinions on the above statement i have given.. perhaps we could turn it into another theory.. in regards to the 'veil' in which Sirius dies and then disappears? Where did you get that quote? I think that because Voldemort is not of the living or the dead, he has greatly upsetted the balance for the land of the living, and therefore Harry will not be alone in his struggle: many creatures will come to aid, many wizards world wide, and yes perhaps even spirits will be able to assist. After all Voldemort gets an army of Inferni, Harry has already tapped into the spirit world, maybe Hermione/Luna or someone else figures out how to tap into it again. The veil could be an unspeakables testing of how to capture souls and release them, but that in itself seems unnatural, even for wizards. As in Ms. Lawson's essay the hero will get much help from others in his quest, and in fact does have to visit the 'underworld' to gain some type of knowledge in order to defeat someone who is not exactly of the living. I disagree on one point, I don't see Harry going this alone, he isn't nearly as arrogant- no offense- as many of the other epic heroes we read about. However, it will remain a mystery until the 21st. -------------------- Thanks to the theonlysong, Lady M., JeffHPFan, and Mrs. Brisby for the avators!
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