Hufflepuff Death Eaters, Can a student in the Hufflepuff House become a DE? |
 Jun 26 2006, 11:46 AM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 112 Joined: 9:01am November 17, 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY   |
Brought on by the most recent Pottercast discussions on Hufflepuffs and Death Eaters, I wonder if the two walks of life can ever join. I think it's quite possible for ANY student/person in ANY house to go wrong and work for the darker side. Let's remember Wormtail who was in the bravest house of them all but ultimately turned to LV and the Death Eater life-style showing many signs of weakness.
On Answers.com, this snippet can be found on Helga Hufflepuff: **She does not appear to have applied particularly strict standards of selection to her House: although in GoF she is stated as having considered “hard workers most worthy of admission”, she is elsewhere described as taking ‘all the rest’ of the students after selection by her colleagues, and is quoted by the Sorting Hat as having said “I’ll teach the lot, and treat them just the same.”** Is it possible for a Hufflepuff to become a Death Eater? If just one person from this house could be tempted by the dark side, what do you think would do it? These students are essentially "all the rest" meaning they could show signs of the three remaining houses, but don't necessarily fit into one alone; They mingle in between showing strong signs of every house. These loyal Hufflepuffs might just be loyal to another leader... I, myself, can admit that I would probably be in Hufflepuff. I have traits that fit into the other houses, but my strong suit is not one particular trait but many and on different levels. Aside from where you feel you stand within the school of Hogwarts and its four houses, think about how a Hufflepuff (or even a Ravenclaw) could become one of the Dark Lord's evil minions. I think it's easier to imagine than you think. Remember that it is not our abilities that define us but our choices. Please discuss! I'm looking forward to everyone's thoughts... This post has been edited by Morgan_Noxwell: Jun 26 2006, 11:49 AM -------------------- Proud to be a Harry Potter fan.
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Jun 26 2006, 12:57 PM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes Posts: 336 Joined: 10:06am December 31, 2005 |
i most certainly think so, peter is proof that you can be in a different house and go bad. now, as you said, it is our choices that define us, and if amelia bones had very different opinions and outlooks on things, she would have made an excellent death eater. that pureblood mania i seriously doubt was all in one house. it could have been in many. zacharias smith seemed sort of malfoyish, and could have very easily turned around on harry and decided to join malfoy, say the inquisitorial squad, who would influence him in death eater ways.
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Jun 26 2006, 01:32 PM
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Director of Nicholas Flamel Laboratories Posts: 11,086 Joined: 11:06am January 28, 2005 Location: Lighting the mountain path for Llewellyn ap Gryffudd  |
JKR said in an interview that the children of DE's are spread through all houses:
QUOTE ES: But there aren't a lot of Death Eater children in the other houses, are there? JKR: You will have people connected with Death Eaters in the other houses, yeah, absolutely. ES: Just in lesser numbers. JKR: Probably. I hear you. It is the tradition to have four houses, but in this case, I wanted them to correspond roughly to the four elements. So Gryffindor is fire, Ravenclaw is air, Hufflepuff is earth, and Slytherin is water, hence the fact that their common room is under the lake. So again, it was this idea of harmony and balance, that you had four necessary components and by integrating them you would make a very strong place. But they remain fragmented, as we know. From the Memerson interview, 16 July 2005 -------------------- The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity.--Harlan Ellison
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Jun 26 2006, 07:50 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer  Posts: 866 Joined: 7:26pm June 10, 2005 Location: Curled up on the sofa with coffee, my dog, and Harry Potter |
Absolutely, a Hufflepuff could be a Death Eater. Rowling makes the point repeatedly that there are good and bad people from every house. Look at Peter Petrigrew for example: a Gryffindor Death Eater. Not all the Hufflepuffs we meet are all that nice; Zacharias Smith is really a jerk! Not to say that he's a future DE or something, only that Huffle's aren't necessarily good and sweet just because they are hardworking and loyal. I'm sure many of the Death Eaters are hardworking and loyal-- to LV!
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Jun 27 2006, 09:17 AM
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Knockturn Alley Fingernail Vendor Posts: 767 Joined: 5:49pm January 28, 2005 Location: A photograph at 221B Baker Street |
Oh, I would say anybody could be a DE. If JKR had decided that Hufflepuffs could not be DE's, that's like saying a Slytherin could not be an Auror. Slughorn was a Slytherin and he wasn't a nasty (at least not yet). It all goes to JKR's philosophy that it's the individual's choice as to what he or she will become.
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Jun 28 2006, 07:16 AM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 112 Joined: 9:01am November 17, 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY |
I posted this discussion to hear what others thought on the subject. I know that JKR already discussed this, as well as the trio on Pottercast. I just wanted to read more interesting feedback from other forum members.
Do you think we'll start seeing OTHER house death eaters? Who was the big blonde one? : ) This post has been edited by Morgan_Noxwell: Jun 28 2006, 07:16 AM -------------------- Proud to be a Harry Potter fan.
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Jun 30 2006, 11:27 AM
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Monster Book Stacker Posts: 373 Joined: 11:21am August 21, 2005 |
QUOTE(Morgan_Noxwell @ Jun 28 2006, 12:16 PM) [snapback]868563[/snapback] Do you think we'll start seeing OTHER house death eaters? Who was the big blonde one? : ) I rather hope that we shall and that we'd finally hear about House backgrounds of some of the characters in the previous books. For instance, I can't imagine that Crouch Jr was in Slytherin, given his father's hatred of the Dark Arts and given the fact that Crouch Sr didn't realise that his son was lost to him until he saw him in the dock. Given Crouch Jr's brilliance as wizard and the fact that he had 12 OWLs, I'd imagine that he was a Ravenclaw. The same with Quirell - he allegedly used to be "brilliant" before his sabbatical and nobody claimed him for a Slyth, so I'd guess another Ravenclaw. I am fairly certain that Cormac McLaggen is going to become a DE, so we'd see one from Gryff. There also may be another traitor in the Order - DD's actions in HBP certainly seemed consistent with this notion - another Gryff? Evil Hufflepuffs... I sorta think that Fudge and Umbridge are Hufflepuffs ;). And maybe some of the DEs that attacked Hogwarts in HBP were such? |
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Jul 1 2006, 04:42 AM
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Madame Pince's House Elf Posts: 4,607 Joined: 5:46pm January 28, 2005 Location: In HP Book Club 4, awaiting the HBP film's release |
A lot depends on why anyone would become a DE, doesn't it? Ollivander has always seemed to admire LV, but did he become a DE? Some Hufflepuffs certainly have been DE's and/or DE children, much as there are other children in other houses who were the children of DE's. We know of Nott, Crabbe, Goyle and Malfoy in Slytherin, but are there others unmentioned in other houses?
After all, the Blacks produced DE Regulus, not to mention DE Bellatrix, but they still produced Sirius Black who bucked the trend. --------------------  Check out the Beedle the Bard Book Club |
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Jul 1 2006, 08:06 AM
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Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,519 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . . |
But, you know, when Hitler was first coming to power, her appealed to people's ideas of nationalism which was very much tied to their self esteem after having been beaten in WWI and having such a hard time economically afterwards. Once he showed his true colors, I believe there were many, many Germans who didn't want to have anything to do with him. That could be the case with LV and some of those that followed him. So what do you do if you've found out you're new boss isn't what you thought he was?
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Jul 1 2006, 02:21 PM
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Shopping for a New Firebolt Posts: 801 Joined: 11:16pm June 27, 2006 Location: Middle-size town, TX |
If they are true Hufflepuffs (which I'd think they'd have to be, since the sorting hat is never wrong), then I think they might be the one house that really can't become Death Eaters. Hufflepuffs are "exceptionally fair-minded", and the Death Eaters are all extremely prejudiced against Muggles, Muggle-borns and even Half-Bloods (or at least they claim to). That's their main mission, to get rid of all non-purebloods, and one of the main Hufflepuff characteristics contradicts with that mission. You can be exceptionally smart or brave and still be prejudiced, but not "fair-minded".
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