The Jury Room, Deliberate and Vote Here! |
 Jul 7 2007, 07:56 PM
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Buying a Half-Kneazle  Posts: 512 Joined: 10:58pm April 20, 2005 Location: Oklahoma  |
I have to say, this is why this is the best Harry Potter fansite around (no offense, mugglenet). You guys have worked so hard and given us so much, and I personally am extremely grateful to all of the leaky staff.
I put undecided, the question does not support the full extent of the situation! What if he used a nonverbal spell! -------------------- Official Predictions made on 7/14/07:
1) Snape has a "redeeming quality". 2)Harry's scar is a horcrux. 3) Luna will not survive : ( |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:57 PM
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WeasleyCast's Hostess With The Mostest Posts: 6,606 Joined: 2:44am February 20, 2006 Location: At The Burrow taking cooking lessons from Molly  |
QUOTE(GadgetDon @ Jul 7 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1295671[/snapback] QUOTE(Mary Wanguard @ Jul 7 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1295644[/snapback] QUOTE(GadgetDon @ Jul 7 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]1295637[/snapback] If Justice exists in the Wizangamot, this trial will be thrown out. Why would you think so?First, by allowing Bellatrix Lestrange testify in safety, that alone is a crime against her many victims. Not all of us have forgotten Frank and Alice Longbottom as this court appears to have done so. Second, much of the case was spent attempting to "prove" what the defense had already conceded to, purely for the purpose of inflaming the emotions of the jury. Third, the jury instructions were horribly one-sided. The point of disagreement was whether Snape's actions were taken at the behest of Dumbledore and meant to save lives. Instead, the jury instructions were totally focused on the facts agreed to by the prosecution and the defense. Fourth, no serious discovery was done to find books left behind by the deceased. Given that the case centers around the deceased's wishes, this was a flagrant violation of justice. ((Note: My criticisms are mostly about the in character concept, the event was great))  -------------------- |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:58 PM
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WhizzHard Books Copy Editor Posts: 2,149 Joined: 10:58pm January 6, 2007 Location: Curled up with a book   |
QUOTE(PAM2002 @ Jul 7 2007, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1295672[/snapback] Severus Snape may have used the Killing Curse but he is not guilty of murder. He followed orders just as Harry Potter did! I agree. He was just following Dumbledore's orders. Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him. Snape didn't actually murder DD. Snape is totally innocent! This post has been edited by Deathly Hallower: Jul 7 2007, 07:59 PM --------------------   |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:58 PM
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Sundae-Nut-Chopper at Florean Fortescue's  Posts: 914 Joined: 2:36pm May 20, 2006 Location: a cozy little corner reading and knitting |
I still had doubts of his guilt
 and because of the doubt I had to vote innocent. I also thought the trial should have been postponed until after the 21st.
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Jul 7 2007, 07:58 PM
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Total Eclipse of the Elf  Posts: 2,115 Joined: 4:47pm July 3, 2005 Location: Kansas City |
QUOTE(Mafalda Weasley @ Jul 7 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]1295668[/snapback] QUOTE(Luna sees them2 @ Jul 8 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]1295654[/snapback] I must say, once again, that whether or not Snape was intended to kill the professor is irrelevant, the fact remains that he delivered the fatal AK. Although I did give him the chance for parole if indeed there is more to the story. And thank you to all of our staffers and supporters for a wonderful trial. Couldn't agree more. Murdering is murdering no matter what. He is guilty. He had a choice to make and he decided to AK Dumbledore. Therefore, he's guilty. I believe that AK is the fastest and least painful way to end life in the magical world. I do not believe that what Snape did was murder. I think Dumbledore could see the bigger picture. He was very ill and facing death at the hands of the likes of Fenrir and other Death Eaters. Snape was the only one on that tower with the power to get rid of those Death Eaters. If Snape hadn't ended Dumbledore's life for him in the way that he did, many more people would have been killed. Snape did what was right. It was courageous and I believe he did what Dumbledore wanted him to do, just like Harry did what Dumbledore wanted him to do in the cave... |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:58 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 16 Joined: 12:36pm July 8, 2005 |
QUOTE(mattzimmer @ Jul 8 2007, 12:55 AM) [snapback]1295674[/snapback] I voted not guilty but the majority of the jury seems to disagree. I predict Snape WILL be convicted and spend 14 days in Azkaban before having the conviction overturned in two weeks. And for those people who think Snape should go to Azkaban for using an Unforgivable Curse remember that Dumbledore allowed the fake Moody to perform the Imperius in class. Harry himself has attempted Crucio more than once. i slightly agree. in 14 days we will really know if he's guilty or innocent. as for moody, that wasn't the real moody. dumbledore didn't give him permission to show them the unforgivable curses. but i do think the students had a right to see what they were and what they did. --------------------  |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:59 PM
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Professional Diagon Alley Window Shopper Posts: 61 Joined: 12:27pm September 23, 2006 |
is the voting over?
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Are you on the list ? Only one can survie while the other lives |
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Jul 7 2007, 07:59 PM
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Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 601 Joined: 1:00pm September 21, 2006 Location: Teaching Winky how to cook |
Voted guilty with no chance for parole. Murder is what it is and I agree with Prongs Patronus, Snape will look fabulous in stripes & shackles.
-------------------- Mrs. Figg raised the arm from which her string bag dangled and whacked Mundungus around the face and neck with it; judging by the clanking noise it made it was full of cat food. Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix.
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Jul 7 2007, 08:22 PM
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Madame Pince's House Elf  Posts: 4,718 Joined: 5:46pm January 28, 2005 Location: In HP Book Club 5, awaiting Deathly Hallow's release. |
I'm sorry, but the facts are as stated. Unfortunately I did read the police record.
 . It has been established that Dumbledore was alive even if mortally ill on top of the Astronomy tower. He had to have been alive to arrive there on a broomstick. He was ill from a potion he had imbibed earlier that evening which had poisoned his system. An antidote might have helped restore him to health. But ill as he was, he was still able to talk to people and to stand up, even if it took him a lot of effort. Draco, who had the intention of killing him was dithering around about it, finding out that killing someone isn't so easy, whether Dumbledore was ill and unarmed or not. Even if Dumbledore was lying in front of Draco with a rose between his teeth saying: Kill Me Draco, he still couldn't do it. The death eaters arrived, followed by Snape whom the Death eaters clearly accepted as one of themselves. And Snape, whichever euphemism you use, euthanasia, or sparing him suffering, protecting Draco or whatever, still cast the AK at Dumbledore. That was the easy thing to do out of the predicament - kill a doomed man. Snape killed Dumbledore. Fact. This was a most interesting trial where the behaviour of Draco and his aunt, even the Defence Counsellor's tapdancing managed to subvert attempts by Judge Caecus LexLegis (Lex Luthor in disguise?) or Prosecutor JustitiaVeritas to get at the truth. Unfortunately I was unable to attend, to witness proceedings, due to the time taken for long-distance travel and technical difficulties of entering the court room. However, thanks to the efforts of court clerks and associated tekkies like DorisTLC, poet, and many others, I have at least been able to peruse the transcript of the trial. Thank you, and even Rita Skeeter as well, for ensuring that this was a public trial conducted as openly as possible under the circumstances, rather than an in camera kangaroo court.  I'd like to support the jury's returning a guilty verdict to the Wizengamot, with possibility for parole due to mitigating factors like previous efforts to heal people, or due to the parlous position Dumbledore was in at the time. Should new evidence prove that his action in AK'ing Dumbledore did turn out to have been the right thing to do as well as the easy thing to do, then I'd support an appeal. Meanwhile I'd like to see Draco and Bellatrix put on trial themselves for perjury and contempt of court.
This post has been edited by WaggaWaggaWerewolf: Jul 7 2007, 08:30 PM --------------------  Check out Book Number 5 POA edition. |
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