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Lack of Religion in Harry Potter, Why do you think J.K. Rowling left out any sort of religion in HP?
ravenclawz
post Jun 19 2009, 06:24 PM
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This has been bothering me for quite some time. I'm a fan of the Harry Potter Series, and I've admired the open-minded views exhibited throughout the series, but why is there no mention of any religion at all in the books?

I mean, the only thing religious-related we see is Christmas and Easter (which have become more cultural holidays rather than religious what with commercialism) , which is seemingly celebrated by all.

Why not have students at school practice other religions? Like Judaism or Hinduism (by the Patels). Maybe even an atheistic character. She has characters of all races, different genders, sexual preferences (with her announcement concerning Dumbledore) and backgrounds, but not a single world in her novels is specifically concerned with religion (correct me if I'm wrong).

Since the message of acceptance and tolerance is a prevalent one in the book, you would think that she would include characters of different religious beliefs, wouldn't you?

What are your thoughts on this? Should J.K. Rowling have included religion in her books? Why?


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Laura W
post Jun 20 2009, 03:02 AM
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The Harry Potter books can - as we have seen over and over again on LL - be interpreted in many ways. Theologically, ethically, morally (with no religous over or undertones), philosophically or just as a great yarn populated with wonderful, memorable characters facing trials and tribulations and triumphs that can easily be identified with by people of all ages and backgrounds in the Real World.

Religious Christians see all kinds of Christian symbolism/references in the HP series, pagans see all kinds of pagan symbolism/references, etc. How wonderful that these novels can be so universal and speak to so many diverse groups! (One of the best examples of this is the King's Cross chapter of DH. The author purposely wrote it such that each reader could see it taking place wherever they choose.) That is exactly what Jo has said she wanted.

And it's all there, of course. She has incorporated so many different traditions, legends, philosophies and ethical messages in this series - very deliberately, I believe. Jo herself is a self-professed Christian but she obviously realizes the value of all stories and belief systems which do not have hate as their basis (ie - LV's religion has hate of "the other" as its basis). Within the seven books, there are loving, respectful tributes to the stories and the thought-processes of Christianity, the numerous types of paganism, secular-humanist-rational ethical thought, etc. Book Seven might be a bit more Christian-focused, but that is only one of seven books.

Harry's journey and it's final outcome is mirrored in the tales of MANY belief systems - not just Christianity by a long shot. Even in the religious stories of the North American Indians. A hero or heroine "dying" and coming back to life to save the world (often to provide a good harvest upon his or her return) is as old as the ancient Egyptians and Osiris. (In that case it represented the cyclical near-drying-up of and the overflowing of the Nile River.) As is the mythology of a hero "returning to life" in order to fight a vital battle.

Jo says that Hogwarts is a multi-faith school and, at no time, is the religion of any of the students, teachers or other HP characters mentioned. We can assume that Anthony Goldstein is probably Jewish, that the Patil sisters might well be Hindu, that the Irish Seamus Finnigan could be Catholic. (I like to think that Minerva McGonagall is a Scottish Unitarian, but that's just personal prejudice. (heh, heh)) But Jo has left that up to each reader's imagination. The important thing to her is that none of these children are discriminated against because of their religion or lack thereof. In the wizarding world, apparently, it is blood-status that is the main fodder for bigots.

One of my favourite non-academic essays on the HP series is one which was written by Nathan Thornburgh in the Apr.28, 2008 issue of Time Magazine. It is entitled "You Didn't Know Harry Potter Was Jewish?" and is quite delightful (at least I find it so). (Just go to www.time.com and type in the title of the article as your search term to read it.)

Another Jewish reference Jo uses is Nick's Deathday Party. I once saw a play about this. As I recall from the play, Jewish culture celebrates the day a loved one dies. The ones who knew him or her have a special meal and speak of the person. How wonderful of Jo to incorporate this! I think i like the idea of the kind, popular Sir Nicholas de Mismsy-Porpington being Jewish. And none of the Gryffindor students have any problem with that. (Were it only so in the real world!)

Jo is a Christian. There is Christian symbolism in her books. But there is also much Greek and Roman and Norse mythology. There is also the philosophy and ethical arguments spoken by the great rationalist non-theological thinkers and philosophers throughout time. And many other influences which I am not educated enough to recognise.






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"At least as much as they've been attacked from a theological point of view," she (JKR) says, the books "have been lauded and taken into pulpit, and most interesting and satisfying for me, it's been by several different faiths." The values in the books, she observes, are by no means exclusively Christian, and she is wary of appearing to promote one faith over another rather than inviting people to explore and struggle with the hard questions.

Rowling's religious agenda is very clear: she does not have one. "I did not set out to convert anyone to Christianity. I wasn't trying to do what C.S. Lewis did. It is perfectly possible to live a very moral life without a belief in God, and I think it's perfectly possible to live a life peppered with ill-doing and believe in God."

Time Magazine (Dec. 31, 2007)






edited by laura w to rearrange a few sentences


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- ravenclawz   Lack of Religion in Harry Potter   Jun 19 2009, 06:24 PM
- - red_wych   I truely love that there was NO Religion in the bo...   Jun 19 2009, 07:34 PM
- - HulaHula22   Perhaps having absolutely no religion in the serie...   Jun 19 2009, 07:50 PM
- - ShanksForte   For several reaosn's probably: 1) So the boo...   Jun 19 2009, 08:36 PM
- - Zoom   It's a can of worms. People being who they ar...   Jun 19 2009, 09:59 PM
- - cooncatbob   Once you introduce religion where's the dividi...   Jun 20 2009, 12:32 AM
- - Kirsikka   That's an interesting idea, actually. I perso...   Jun 20 2009, 02:58 AM
- - Anna-leden   The lack of religious mention in the books hadn...   Jun 20 2009, 02:38 PM
- - The Crimson Artist   QUOTE(Kirsikka)Anyway, it's up to you how you ...   Jun 20 2009, 07:07 PM
|- - Hermy-one Pince   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Jun 21 2009, 03...   Jun 21 2009, 01:23 PM
- - Pleione   everyone. The role of religion has been a hot top...   Jun 20 2009, 10:19 PM
- - Aliyah95   If the HP series had one more subplot, it would ex...   Jun 21 2009, 03:32 PM
- - Min   Im glad there wasnt religion in Harry Potter - plo...   Jun 23 2009, 01:15 AM
- - lupinwandcaster   Religion would have ruined the story and made it e...   Jun 28 2009, 09:17 PM
|- - xxjennydxx   QUOTE(lupinwandcaster @ Jun 29 2009, 03:1...   Jul 5 2009, 07:31 AM
- - BeAchL0veEr05   I wouldn't have minded religion in the books, ...   Jul 29 2009, 11:05 AM
- - JohannMdlAmerica   No religion? I will simply point out the epitaph ...   Jul 29 2009, 11:19 AM
- - wordsaremagic   Well, I am going to have to disagree with the assu...   Aug 5 2009, 09:38 AM


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