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 Aug 7 2006, 05:43 PM
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*** Topic is: LeakyMug in Las Vegas
*** Sofie has joined #lounge <Sofie> hey guys! <magicmeg8> Hey sofie! <Sofie> hey meg! so whats today's topic? lumos? <magicmeg8> Yep smile *** yellowpepper2311 has joined #lounge *** cbm has joined #lounge <magicmeg8> Hey guys! <yellowpepper2311> hody! <Sofie> hey erna! smile <yellowpepper2311> howdy <yellowpepper2311> wow first word and already a typo laugh <magicmeg8> lol <Sofie> lol <magicmeg8> How are you guys doing?> <Sofie> im still depressed about not being able to be in Vegas sad <magicmeg8> aww <yellowpepper2311> yeah, me too <yellowpepper2311> apparently it was a blast *** Starlysh has joined #lounge <Sofie> yeah. and we missed it. and NY too sad <yellowpepper2311> yeah, life is cruel <Starlysh> hello! *** LJ has joined #lounge <yellowpepper2311> hi <magicmeg8> I missed the N"Y one, but that's 'cause it was so stupidly hot in NY and our cab driver was crazy <Sofie> hey guys! smile <magicmeg8> Hey laurie <cbm> NY was great! smile <LJ> hey <magicmeg8> Hey lysh! <Starlysh> hi! *** EvenStar198 has joined #lounge *** stewiegryf has joined #lounge <Starlysh> I'm listening to the Vegas one now...fun <Sofie> hey stewie! smile my fellow RG room-mate smile <LJ> ou was there <LJ> *you <stewiegryf> hey hey! <LJ> don't forget to sign up for the RG's Sat guys <LJ> 9am EDT sorting <stewiegryf> 6am pacific time! <stewiegryf> i'll be there <Sofie> i wont forget smile <Sofie> 3pm CET. nice smile <LJ> Stewie, it'll be ok to sign up when you wake! <LJ> there'll be room [16:08] *** SageSparks has joined #lounge [16:09] <stewiegryf> yeah, i know, but where's the fun in that? [16:09] <LJ> haha [16:09] <Sofie> are there gonna be 2 diff types of RGs again? [16:09] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [16:09] <LJ> it's 2pm for me tongue [16:09] <LJ> yeah, there'll be option A and B again [16:09] *** EvenStar198 has quit [Bye] [16:10] <yellowpepper2311> I'm always such a bad reading group member *is still undecided whether she should be sorted or not* [16:10] <Sofie> great. cant wait to discuss POA. my 2nd fav book smile [16:10] <LJ> you should! [16:10] *** tbunny has joined #lounge [16:10] <LJ> and I'll bug you to post tongue [16:10] <Starlysh> What's your first? [16:10] *** atschpe has joined #lounge [16:10] <Sofie> Erna, thats because you are lazy! lol smile [16:10] <LJ> GoF is mine [16:10] <tbunny> hellos [16:10] <Sofie> Gof [16:10] <yellowpepper2311> yeah I know [16:10] <LJ> but I love PoA and HBP too [16:10] <LJ> and OotP [16:10] <SageSparks> PoA is the one book I actually cannot find. Someone seems to have stolen it from my shelf. With all its highlighting and Post-It note flags and everything! [16:10] <LJ> and... all of them [16:10] <yellowpepper2311> OotP [16:10] <harryfreak359> are we talking about the reading groups? [16:11] <Starlysh> hahaha [16:11] <Sofie> for some weird reason i like ootp too. dunny why ppl dont like it [16:11] <LJ> yeah [16:11] <SageSparks> I'm going to have to buy a new copy for the reading group. :-/ [16:11] <Sofie> *dunno [16:11] <magicmeg8> We're going to discuss the Las Vegas LeakyMug [16:11] <yellowpepper2311> I like it [16:11] <stewiegryf> i love ootp [16:11] <yellowpepper2311> it's my fav [16:11] <stewiegryf> me too [16:11] <Sofie> ppl think Harry is annoying... [16:11] *** SageSparks has quit [Bye] [16:11] <yellowpepper2311> pfff [16:12] <yellowpepper2311> but the Umbridge plot is hilarious [16:12] <Starlysh> Harry was a little annoying in OotP...I still love 'im thouogh [16:12] <Sofie> i know, i liked harry there. not in the CAPS LOCK scenes though [16:12] *** SageSparks has joined #lounge [16:12] *** atschpe has quit [Bye] [16:12] *** severouslyobsessed has joined #lounge [16:12] <SageSparks> Whoops. [16:13] <Starlysh> wb [16:13] <LJ> I think that scene showed us a diff side to him - and really, he was so frustrated, a teenager - it just came out in anger [16:13] <SageSparks> Thanks smile [16:13] <LJ> I can totally relate [16:13] <Sofie> yeah. he was 15 so thats understandable [16:13] <yellowpepper2311> I was not such a prat when I was 15 [16:13] <Sofie> lol [16:13] <Starlysh> ditto [16:13] *** severouslyobsessed has quit [Bye] [16:13] <Starlysh> haha [16:13] <stewiegryf> yeah, i understand where Harry is coming from, even if I don't agree with his anger [16:13] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [16:13] <LJ> you hadn't been through everything Harry was [16:14] <Sofie> yes but he has been through so many things. i hated DD in that book [16:14] <magicmeg8> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [16:14] *** Selina has joined #lounge [16:14] *** kyrane has joined #lounge [16:15] <Sofie> hey guys! [16:15] <Selina> hi everyone... [16:15] <kyrane> Hi [16:15] <yellowpepper2311> hey folks [16:15] <stewiegryf> 'ello [16:15] <magicmeg8> Hey guys, we're about to make some announcements, at which time you won't be able to type, but just bear with us smile [16:15] <x0ginnyW0x> Hello [16:15] <Selina> ok [16:15] <Selina> smile [16:15] <magicmeg8> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [16:15] <magicmeg8> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. [16:15] *** tbunny has quit [Bye] [16:15] *** tbunny has joined #lounge [16:16] <magicmeg8> Welcome, everyone, to the LeakyMug Vegas Chat. Today we're going to discuss the 'Cast in a bit more detailed than when it was aired live. [16:16] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [16:16] <magicmeg8> So, to start off -- did you enjoy the LeakyMug from Las Vegas? [16:16] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [16:16] <magicmeg8> You're free to talk smile [16:16] <Sofie> yes! [16:16] *** yellowpepper2311 has quit [Bye] [16:16] *** yellowpepper2311 has joined #lounge [16:17] <yellowpepper2311> wooops [16:17] <Selina> (omg i was just in time... that was so funny :P i had no idea) [16:17] <Starlysh> yeah, it was fun [16:17] <Selina> yes I loved it [16:17] <Sofie> too bad i didnt quite understand what was going on at the beginning [16:17] <Selina> i listened to it streaming and it was amazing [16:17] <yellowpepper2311> yeah, yeah, yeah! [16:17] <Expelliarmas> I really enjoyed the trivia contest [16:17] <SageSparks> I thought it was a bit difficult to follow until I cross-referenced it with picture uploads in the gallery. [16:17] <magicmeg8> Haha, Sofie. [16:17] <Starlysh> Did the streaming have Alex singing? [16:17] <Selina> yeah, the melissa is gone really didn't make sense in the podcast, but i saw a vid on youtube and it wa really funny! [16:17] <Sofie> oh yes. Steve asked really hard questions [16:17] <Selina> yes it did [16:17] <x0ginnyW0x> I loved Steve hosting it [16:17] <LJ> Melissa had been "kidnapped" by DE's [16:18] <x0ginnyW0x> he was hilarious [16:18] <LJ> the Lumos peeps had to come save her [16:18] <Expelliarmas> the non-Potter questions came as a shock! [16:18] <Starlysh> Steve is awesome [16:18] <Selina> yeah, but we couldn't actually hear anything the de's said [16:18] <magicmeg8> Yeah, Laurie -- that was a bit difficult for me to understand in listening to it after the live stream [16:18] <SageSparks> Steve sounded like he was having a good time. That's totally his calling. [16:18] <Selina> i guess many people had trouble with that too [16:18] <Sofie> yeah, ive read it, but just from the listeneg i wouldnt have gotten it [16:18] <Selina> in the actual podcast [16:18] <Starlysh> you could tell all the Wicked fans by their reaction after that question [16:18] <stewiegryf> Steve should take over for alex trebek [16:18] <Expelliarmas> yea, I didn't clue into Melissa being taken by DEs until well into it [16:18] <Sofie> i liked the Moria question .) [16:18] <x0ginnyW0x> I had to turn my iPod volume way up to here anything at the beginning [16:18] <stewiegryf> he's got the voice for it [16:18] <Selina> i also thing the trivia contest got a bit nasty, but it was fun [16:18] <magicmeg8> I definitely liked that there were enough microphones and we could hear everyone on the panel [16:19] <Selina> yeah magicmeg that was a very nice tough [16:19] <Selina> ch [16:19] <x0ginnyW0x> I wish the singing was clearer though [16:19] <x0ginnyW0x> I got alot of static [16:19] <Selina> yeah me too [16:19] <Expelliarmas> ditto [16:19] <Starlysh> Yeah, though Emerson had Sue's mic for a while [16:19] <Selina> in the recording it was very poor, and the new york one was not included [16:19] <Sofie> yeah sad [16:19] <Selina> there will be a video up of the whole thing or? [16:20] <Sofie> i bet there wil [16:20] <yellowpepper2311> hope so [16:20] <Sofie> l [16:20] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [16:20] <Sofie> like in 13,5 weeks [16:20] <x0ginnyW0x> Did they ever say there was going to be a video? [16:20] <Starlysh> haha [16:20] <Selina> good thing that the songs were put on youtube smile [16:20] <tbunny> I was waiting and waiting for Johns new york, new york... but no [16:20] <x0ginnyW0x> Or are we just guessing? [16:20] <Selina> lol yeah [16:20] <kyrane> ther better be video! [16:20] <Selina> yeah i guess we are guessing... [16:20] <Starlysh> I saw people with video cameras [16:20] <LJ> people recorded [16:20] <Sofie> yeah bet the quality on youtube is sucky [16:20] <Selina> i think they said something about it though [16:20] <LJ> Kimmy did! [16:20] <Starlysh> yup [16:20] <Selina> no some of it is quite ok [16:21] <Selina> search "john noe" or "leaky mug" or something [16:21] <Sofie> then its just my PC being silly [16:21] <Selina> and get the most recent [16:21] <yellowpepper2311> or lumos [16:21] <SageSparks> I'd like to see a video, definitely. Especially if it includes Alex's act. [16:21] <Selina> you'll find the good ones [16:21] <Selina> yeah [16:21] <Starlysh> there are so many funny Lumos vids on youtube [16:21] <SageSparks> I was disappointed that it didn't make the 'cast. [16:21] <x0ginnyW0x> If you search John Noe you'll get lots of DDR biggrin [16:21] <Sofie> lol [16:21] <yellowpepper2311> laugh [16:21] <magicmeg8> Were you at Lumos, and did you ask any questions? If so, which ones? [16:21] <Starlysh> Yes, and no [16:22] <magicmeg8> LoL [16:22] <yellowpepper2311> no and no [16:22] <Sofie> no and no [16:22] <magicmeg8> I wasn't either! [16:22] <Starlysh> The audience was really good [16:22] <stewiegryf> no and no [16:22] <yellowpepper2311> *sighs* [16:22] <LJ> o and yes tongue [16:22] <LJ> *no [16:22] <magicmeg8> It certainly seems like it, Lysh [16:22] <x0ginnyW0x> lol [16:22] <Selina> just a sidenote, I am sure no one else was bothered, but i was kind of annoyed at alex' music inputs during the trivia contest. i don't know if it will ever be an issue again... just my opinion. he was really great in the beginning, but the music got a bit distracting [16:22] <Sofie> lol [16:22] <LJ> but as I wasn't there my questions weren't answered [16:22] <Expelliarmas> me, at Lumos?!? they wouldn't let me in! [16:22] <x0ginnyW0x> I liked that Selina [16:22] <Sofie> i agree sekina [16:22] <Selina> smile [16:22] <magicmeg8> Could you tell us a little more about the audience, Lysh? [16:22] <SageSparks> Oh, I kind of liked that he was talking through the keyboard like that. [16:22] <SageSparks> It was cute! [16:22] <Sofie> l, sorry typu [16:23] <Selina> np [16:23] <magicmeg8> I think i liked the piano, lol [16:23] <Selina> i know but people already had trouble hearing things... it was hilarious that the muggle boys kept wanting new questions ^_^ [16:23] <Starlysh> It was a fun atmosphere...some of the fangirls got loud sometimes. And people yelling out what they thought [16:23] <Selina> they did seem a little on edge for the trivia contest, but maybe that was just interpretation [16:24] <Starlysh> it was cool to be around that many people who know what you're talking about [16:24] <x0ginnyW0x> The muggle boys weren't very good losers were they? [16:24] <yellowpepper2311> lol [16:24] <Selina> it was very interactive though, that's the good thing about a live contest [16:24] <magicmeg8> Haha -- yeah, they audience definitely seemed fun. [16:24] <kyrane> whiny losers [16:24] <Selina> no ginny they weren't! :P [16:24] <magicmeg8> Yeah, i agree selina [16:24] <Sofie> the fangirls were less annoyin than last year in ny. [16:24] <magicmeg8> ahaha, kyrane [16:24] <Selina> *podcast [16:24] <x0ginnyW0x> Emerson threw quite a little temper tantrum [16:24] <SageSparks> I would be a bad loser, too, though, put to shame in front of all my fangirls :P [16:24] <kyrane> not that im bias or anything [16:24] <Selina> i know he did! [16:24] <Starlysh> Yeah, they were frustrated with the buttons [16:24] <Selina> it was funny [16:25] <magicmeg8> Did you enjoy the Trivia challenge? [16:25] <stewiegryf> did anyone see the article comparing the muggleboys to a boy band? [16:25] <Sofie> they just suck at trivia [16:25] <x0ginnyW0x> It was great [16:25] <Sofie> :-) [16:25] <SageSparks> I think Alex's piano came in handy, actually, because of him playing "chimes" when the lights came on. [16:25] <Starlysh> No, stewie, where is that? [16:25] <Sofie> i did stewie [16:25] <Selina> i did like it, but it was as i said slightly edgy... [16:25] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [16:25] *** tbunny has quit [Bye] [16:25] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [16:25] <magicmeg8> i agree, sage. i really liked the trivia [16:25] <Sofie> pure fun is that article [16:25] <stewiegryf> let me find the link [16:25] <Selina> yeah the article... i was so angry :P [16:25] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [16:25] <Starlysh> okay, cool [16:25] *** Mokey has joined #lounge [16:25] <Selina> she made fans seem like freaks [16:25] <SageSparks> I thought the trivia contest was really fun to listen to. I listened at work and it made my shift completely enjoyable, which is my best endorsement. [16:26] <Mokey> hi everyone! [16:26] <Selina> hi biggrin [16:26] <magicmeg8> Yeah, I definitely tried to answer the questions [16:26] <magicmeg8> hey mokey! [16:26] <yellowpepper2311> hey [16:26] <Sofie> yeah she only wrote abot the slash fanfic writers... [16:26] <Starlysh> They should do it again sometime...it was a great contest [16:26] <magicmeg8> we're talking about the trivia challenge [16:26] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [16:26] <Selina> yeah... i answered the moria one... and i think one more :P [16:26] <magicmeg8> at the leakymug [16:26] <cbm> I listened while driving to ny, made the NJ turnpike bearable. [16:26] <Mokey> hi mwegs! [16:26] <x0ginnyW0x> Sorry I was kicked [16:26] <magicmeg8> haha, cb [16:26] <stewiegryf> the article is quite inflammatory towards HP fans [16:26] <magicmeg8> that's ok The (ginny) [16:26] <stewiegryf> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/stor...1837941,00.html [16:26] <Starlysh> oh, ick [16:26] <Starlysh> thanks [16:26] <magicmeg8> I didn't even know about that, stewie. [16:27] <magicmeg8> but thanks for the link [16:27] <Sofie> rita alert, so beware [16:27] <yellowpepper2311> *off to read article* [16:27] <x0ginnyW0x> ohh yuck [16:27] <Selina> it was... lol, because we are really just all a bunch of porn perverts! [16:27] <stewiegryf> someone posted it on the lounge in the lumos thread [16:27] <Selina> ^_^ [16:27] <magicmeg8> Did you think Leaky would win? What if we hadn't? [16:27] <Selina> lol, it was actually kind of close competition [16:27] <SageSparks> I was positive Leaky would win. Positive. [16:27] <x0ginnyW0x> Wasn't even an issue Meg biggrin [16:27] <Selina> well... mc did get that point for pants... o.o [16:27] <Sofie> i knew we would win. wasnt it obvious from the very beginning? [16:27] <Mokey> of course leaky would win! [16:28] <Starlysh> My MN friend even told me Leaky would win [16:28] <Expelliarmas> listen to pottercast and mugglecast, did you really have any doubts who'd win? [16:28] <magicmeg8> Haha -- gosh, if we didn't win, oh, noes [16:28] <magicmeg8> lol [16:28] *** Skiplives has joined #lounge [16:28] <magicmeg8> haha expel [16:28] <Selina> if mc had won they would have been unbearable :P [16:28] <Expelliarmas> hiya [16:28] <Sofie> lol yes [16:28] <Selina> hi [16:28] <Skiplives> hi :bye: [16:28] <Selina> lol [16:28] <magicmeg8> Very true, selina [16:28] <magicmeg8> hi skiplives smile [16:29] * Sofie is typing in a dark room so beware of typos [16:29] *** tbunny has joined #lounge [16:29] <Starlysh> hi Tams [16:29] <Skiplives> hi meg [16:29] <Selina> one of my favorite parts of the podcast was the hoggy warty hogwarts song [16:29] <Selina> at the end of the contest [16:29] <x0ginnyW0x> That was great [16:29] <tbunny> hey again [16:29] <Sofie> that was lol [16:29] <LJ> mine too Selina [16:29] <Selina> I sung along smile [16:29] <tbunny> I loved the school song! [16:30] *** Trozam has quit [Bye] [16:30] <magicmeg8> Let's move back to the beginning of the 'Cast, everyone - The canon discussion was on Snape and his motivations. Most of the panel thought that Snape is a good guy? Did you agree with that? [16:30] <Selina> yeah, that really made it seem like a hp event you know? it just added that sense of being there together [16:30] <Starlysh> I totally didn't know beyong hoggy hoggy Hogwarts [16:30] <Sofie> i liked the snape discusion [16:30] <LJ> I wish someone had sung it to the Funeral March - though I was glad that Emerson finished last, there had to be one straggler biggrin [16:30] <Selina> except i wasn't, but in theory [16:30] <x0ginnyW0x> Snape is evile [16:30] <Selina> yeah someone did [16:30] <Selina> lol [16:30] <miss_danielle> Snape is a goodie [16:30] <Sofie> he is definately good [16:30] <magicmeg8> ahaha laurie [16:30] <cbm> I think snape is bad, but innocent [16:30] <Selina> snape? i think he's good [16:30] <x0ginnyW0x> no no no no no [16:30] <x0ginnyW0x> evilleeeeee [16:30] <miss_danielle> he's goooooog [16:30] <LJ> he's good! but evile [16:30] <miss_danielle> goooooood* lol [16:31] <Selina> but i really really liked the point someone made about the felix felices [16:31] <x0ginnyW0x> Which makes perfect sense LJ :P [16:31] <Selina> though i didn't understand it at first [16:31] <Starlysh> Yeah, I was one of the few that thought he's on the dark side [16:31] <x0ginnyW0x> * :0 [16:31] <Sofie> he is DDs man through and through [16:31] <x0ginnyW0x> * tongue [16:31] <LJ> he's on the good side, but he's not a good person [16:31] <LJ> I trust DD [16:31] <Selina> lol laurie [16:31] <Starlysh> psh, I say [16:31] <Sofie> i trust Snape [16:31] <Sofie> he has proven himself several times [16:31] <SageSparks> I don't know about sides. [16:31] <x0ginnyW0x> I trust DD, I just think that he was wrong [16:31] <Selina> i agree, except i don't like him. but he'll act as dd wanted him to i'm sure [16:31] <SageSparks> I think that "side" is too binary. [16:32] <Starlysh> Killing is bad [16:32] <SageSparks> It is! [16:32] <Sofie> yeah but it is the bravest thing if DD asked him to do so [16:32] <Starlysh> You have to have real hate and evil in you to AK someone [16:32] <Mokey> yeah Killing is bad [16:32] <cbm> I can not think of one good thing he has done, so how could he be good? [16:32] <LJ> and the way Jo answerd Rushdie's question in NY suggests he might be good - though that was def not a direct answer [16:32] <stewiegryf> i don't know if snape even knows what side he's on [16:32] <miss_danielle> I just can't see that Snape is evil. He's not a nice guy but he's with the Order [16:32] <Selina> yeah, i really think he hates harry, but he's a "good" person in the sense he'll do what's right, and he was DD's man... just like harry really [16:32] <magicmeg8> Nick Rhein felt that Snape is a bad guy ("Because he's a jerk") and he brought up the point that one has to mean the Killing Curse in order for it to work. Do you think Nick has the right idea? Why or why not? [16:32] <Selina> except harry is a sweetie [16:33] <x0ginnyW0x> I don't buy that you could kill someone without truly hating them [16:33] <Mokey> that's a really important point [16:33] <x0ginnyW0x> So I think Nick is right [16:33] <Starlysh> I agree with Nick [16:33] <SageSparks> Mercy killing? [16:33] <Sofie> i think if you have ehough magical power you can kill with Ak without meaning it [16:33] <Mokey> you do have to mean the killing curse [16:33] <Expelliarmas> whomever on the panel opined that Snape and DD had an unbreakable vow was probably onto something [16:33] <x0ginnyW0x> No mercy killing [16:33] <SageSparks> I think you can really mean it without hating someone. [16:33] <LJ> I think the hate was for himself [16:33] <miss_danielle> the hatred could be directed at himself though - maybe he hated himself for doing it [16:33] <Selina> i think that the hatred he felt for dd was because dd was making him kill him [16:33] <Mokey> but then what if you mean it but your motive isn't hate [16:33] <cbm> We know hate is needed for crucio, do we know it is needed for AK? [16:33] <Selina> i don't think the unbreakable vow... [16:33] <SageSparks> I agree, Selina. [16:33] <Mokey> but you still want the person to die [16:33] <Starlysh> yes [16:33] <LJ> wow, I've never chosen one side over the other before - only recently [16:33] <stewiegryf> don't you think snape could have resented DD for putting him in that situation? [16:33] <Selina> i think there was some impromptu occlumency going on... [16:33] <Sofie> no UV between snape and DD [16:34] <Sofie> no way DD would have used it [16:34] <Starlysh> ultraviolet? [16:34] <miss_danielle> i don't think there's an UV either [16:34] <SageSparks> No, an unbreakable vow would be something you'd make with someone because you *don't* trust them, not because you do trust them. [16:34] <Starlysh> oh wait [16:34] <Starlysh> lightbulb [16:34] <Selina> death eaters can kill without hating the persons they are killing, and aurors i guess can too [16:34] <Expelliarmas> an unbreakable vow to get Snape to do the ultimate deed? [16:34] <Sofie> good point [16:34] <Selina> you just have to be able to challenge that emotion [16:34] <Selina> channelØ [16:34] <Selina> * [16:34] <x0ginnyW0x> right after finishing HBP, I thought he was evil, then the good theories started to come out, and I bought them for a while, but now it just makes sense that he's a mean guy, and he killed Dumbledore, and he's evil [16:35] <Sofie> or have no emotion at all [16:35] <Starlysh> I'm in the middle of reading it again [16:35] <miss_danielle> he would have taken much more pleasure in killing DD if he was evil [16:35] <Selina> yeah sofie. but that also includes being in full control of them [16:35] <magicmeg8> I don' tknow. i mean, i guess if snape turns out to be bad, then we would have to go with what was obvious, but i can't really see him as anything but evil [16:35] <magicmeg8> i've thought that since the first book [16:35] <miss_danielle> if you had fooled the greatest wizard alive - you'd be smug about it [16:35] <SageSparks> I feel like too often, we (young people, women, fans of literature, high-minded idealists -- whoever "we" are) associate "mean" with "bad." That's not usually true. [16:35] <Sofie> yeah, like snape can handle his amotions better than anybody else [16:36] <Sofie> emotions, typo [16:36] <Selina> letting all hatred out at the right time = very powerful killing curse. as it was, he flew off the tower! unlike wormtail's killing curse, which was not so emotional for him + he is not a very powerful wizard [16:36] <magicmeg8> I agree, Sage. There's definitely a difference between mean, and well, evil [16:36] <x0ginnyW0x> I think it was said in the Lumos podcast (but I might be wrong) that Snape didn't really have to make the vow with Narcissa, he could have gotten out of it, which I am behind [16:36] <yellowpepper2311> He's a jerk but he's good. End of story. [16:36] <magicmeg8> Most of the panel agreed that Snape was not a nice guy, but most of them thought he was good [16:36] <Selina> lol yellow [16:36] <miss_danielle> yes yellow lol [16:36] <Sofie> he must have mad it or Narcissa would have thought that he is on DDs side [16:36] <Starlysh> yeah [16:36] <Selina> yeah... because otherwise it would be so simple. plus the "don't call me a coward" was important i think, it says a lot [16:37] <yellowpepper2311> didn't nick write in his blog that he did the snape s evil side because no one wanted to do it? [16:37] <SageSparks> I don't think he's good. I think he's petty most of the time. And he's manipulative and a consummate liar. But he's not a cold-blooded killer, either. [16:37] <cbm> I would change good to innocent. Or on the side of the light, I would NEVER call snape good. [16:37] <Selina> he can hold a grudge... [16:37] <SageSparks> Good word! Innocent. [16:37] <Sofie> he is mean but not evil [16:37] <Selina> no he has many emotions and dilemmas - but he can control them [16:37] <Sofie> i wouldnt call him cruel either [16:37] <yellowpepper2311> otherwise there wouldn't have been a real discussion [16:37] <Selina> direct them at something [16:37] *** NickTLC has joined #lounge [16:37] <Expelliarmas> gotta go torture my students, with random crucios, see you guys later [16:37] <Sofie> he never said mudblood to anybody [16:38] <Selina> hi nick smile [16:38] *** mode/#lounge [+o NickTLC] by Snuffles [16:38] <Starlysh> Hi Nick [16:38] <SageSparks> I think people call him cruel because they're too emotionally attached to the characters who dislike him. [16:38] <NickTLC> Hi guys! [16:38] <Sofie> hi nick [16:38] <yellowpepper2311> Hey! [16:38] <magicmeg8> i agree, expel [16:38] <stewiegryf> hye nick [16:38] <NickTLC> I hear that some of you agreed with me on Snape, eh? [16:38] <magicmeg8> hey nick [16:38] <magicmeg8> haha, yes, seems that way [16:38] <Starlysh> yes! [16:38] <NickTLC> biggrin [16:38] <Sofie> not me lol [16:38] <x0ginnyW0x> Yes! [16:38] <Selina> lol [16:38] <Starlysh> totally dark side [16:38] <stewiegryf> and some disagree... smile [16:38] <Selina> me neither [16:38] <Expelliarmas> magicmeg8, you want to torture my students too?!? [16:38] <Selina> yeah! he is good! in a bad sort of way [16:38] <magicmeg8> umm...noo....? lol [16:38] <NickTLC> There were about four Slytherins in the audience! [16:38] <magicmeg8> of course not! [16:38] <magicmeg8> :d [16:39] <Selina> hehe [16:39] <yellowpepper2311> most people disagree te-he-he [16:39] <kyrane> i disagree sorry [16:39] <Sofie> but im a hopeless snape-lover so i do not really count [16:39] <x0ginnyW0x> I just think the whole "he looks like a bad guy but he's good" thing has been pulled too many times [16:39] <NickTLC> I wish more people in the audience had shown support, but it was just not my night! [16:39] <yellowpepper2311> yes you do sofie [16:39] <x0ginnyW0x> People are expecting him to be good [16:39] <Expelliarmas> the snapeshifters are going to have their heads explode from now until Book 7 [16:39] <x0ginnyW0x> which is why Jo is going to make him evil [16:39] <magicmeg8> Haha, good point, The (ginny [16:39] <Sofie> lol [16:39] <x0ginnyW0x> or thats my opinion anyway [16:39] <Selina> yeah i disagree... i don't know, it could be either, but it would be a better story if he turned out to work for dd - i know i'm in dangerous terriroty, i love the books... but that extra layer would be awesome [16:39] <SageSparks> I'm definitely holding out a bit on making a solid prediction because of that, Ginny. It is a bit too... predictable. [16:39] <kyrane> aww where are all the snape haters when you need them [16:40] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [16:40] <cbm> What did JK say in NY about the people who cheered for snape? [16:40] <Selina> lol kyrane [16:40] <Sofie> he has been working for DD from the very beginning [16:40] <Selina> they are out there... [16:40] <cbm> It was the second night [16:40] <x0ginnyW0x> If Jo was going to pull a 180 on his good/evil status it would be a surprise to us [16:40] <x0ginnyW0x> she's not one to go for the predictable [16:40] <NickTLC> Bingo [16:40] *** Skiplives has quit [Bye] [16:40] <Selina> yeah but jo knows her audience. she is going to say he is evil, because he is a bad person - he is just working for harry [16:40] <NickTLC> She's never going to just do things exactly the way you expect [16:41] <kyrane> i dont think hes totally evil though [16:41] <Selina> this confuses me... [16:41] <Sofie> i liked melissas theory about that snape joined DD because V killed lily [16:41] <Selina> yeah [16:41] <SageSparks> My boyfriend just read the books for the first time this week. And he came up with theories that were so uncontrollably stupid... [16:41] <yellowpepper2311> yeah [16:41] <Starlysh> I felt bad for Snape after Book 5, but then I was mad at him after HBP...I'm still a little mad [16:41] <Selina> but wasn't he spying before then? do we know? [16:41] <SageSparks> But they were cute stupid. [16:41] <magicmeg8> LoL sage. [16:41] <cbm> I agree with Melissa [16:41] <miss_danielle> I agree with that - it's not going to be simple, but ultimately he will do the right thing and be DD's man [16:41] <SageSparks> He believes Snape is Harry's illegitimate father, for one. [16:41] <Sofie> i dont think he was in love with her though. [16:41] <Selina> i feel bad for him. james was a mean little brat [16:41] <kyrane> i dont think hes totally DD's man either. [16:41] <NickTLC> I think that of the two, Doris' theory is more likely--that Snape is the consummate teacher, and even while Hagrid's house is burning down, he's still trying to teach Harry [16:41] <Starlysh> lol [16:41] <miss_danielle> "I am your father" moment [16:41] <kyrane> im in the middle ground [16:41] <yellowpepper2311> no way! [16:42] <Sofie> yeah. taching [16:42] <Selina> i think he was in love with loly [16:42] <magicmeg8> I'm just not sure, i think [16:42] <NickTLC> And that Snape is *not* working for Dumbledore, or for the Order [16:42] <NickTLC> He's working for Harry [16:42] <Selina> loly [16:42] <Selina> lily damn it [16:42] <Sofie> no SW ending please [16:42] <Selina> sorry [16:42] <SageSparks> Yes, exactly. He also believes that Snape is Harry from the future, come back to fix the past or something. [16:42] <x0ginnyW0x> yes please no Star Wars [16:42] <magicmeg8> The panel talked about how great of a character Snape is because of how well he's written -- do you have anything to add to that? [16:42] <Selina> hahaha and hermione is harry's sister, and dobby is the wookie [16:42] <x0ginnyW0x> Snape is an awesome character [16:42] <Sofie> and harry learned a LOt from snape in HBP [16:42] <yellowpepper2311> laugh [16:42] <x0ginnyW0x> thats why the fandom is so split on him [16:42] <miss_danielle> So snape is harry's father and is also Harry? Room on the springer show? [16:42] <kyrane> snape is often my fave character to read [16:43] <stewiegryf> yes, i agree ginny [16:43] <x0ginnyW0x> LOL Danielle [16:43] <Selina> yeah, i agree, he is excellently written [16:43] <cbm> Harry learned alot from the fake madeye also [16:43] <SageSparks> I think that the fact he can generate this much discussion makes him a phenomenon rather than a character. He's beyond a character. [16:43] <Selina> i hate him, but am convinced he is good - that is good writing right there [16:43] <Sofie> he is the best character in the books. the most complex [16:43] <Selina> i agree sage [16:43] <yellowpepper2311> seconded [16:43] <miss_danielle> definitely the most complex - theres a lot we dont know about Snape [16:43] <Starlysh> He might just be working for himself so he can take over the whole wizarding world [16:43] <Starlysh> He's very well written [16:43] *** Starlysh left #lounge [] [16:44] <magicmeg8> Yeah, he is SO complex. he makes my head hurt, LoL. [16:44] <miss_danielle> lol [16:44] <stewiegryf> it takes a great character to generate 29 threads of lively discussion in a year [16:44] <Sofie> like what he was doing when the potters died [16:44] <miss_danielle> exactly [16:44] <x0ginnyW0x> are we on 29 now? geez [16:44] <SageSparks> I think it speaks to JKR's amazing ability to lift archetypes above the level of cardboard cutouts, which they are in so many other books in the genre. [16:44] <magicmeg8> You know, someone brought that up in a voicemail on PC one week, Lysh. [16:44] <NickTLC> I think it's important to note that Jo spent so much time developing Snape in her writing when, according to her website, she has so much backstory on other characters, like Dean or Nott [16:44] <Selina> yeah, and look at his childhood. it is just sooo major. i think besides from voldemort and harry snape is the character we've seen most of through the ages [16:44] <Selina> i agree again sage [16:44] <kyrane> well it was nt dean or nott killing DD [16:44] <magicmeg8> Definitely, Nick. And I'm sure we'll get more of that backstory in 7, but not all [16:45] <Selina> yeah nick that has to play out [16:45] <Sofie> and he has the biggest fandom too smile [16:45] <cbm> I wonder what would happened if Harry looked more like lily than james? Would Snape treat him the same? [16:45] <kyrane> snape is undoubtedly important [16:45] <Selina> we will be confused about snape until the 3rd last chapter [16:45] <x0ginnyW0x> I'm very interested in Snape's childhood [16:45] <SageSparks> I do think that Snape is the crux of the series right now. [16:45] <Selina> is my prediction smile [16:45] <x0ginnyW0x> His abusive father and all [16:45] <Sofie> he is the one who could help harry find the horcrees [16:45] <Selina> yeah me too ginny. because we hear so much about orphans having it rough and families being the best, yet you have snape and sirius [16:45] <cbm> I think that snape was in love with lily? [16:46] <kyrane> lol id almost forgotten bout pottercast till you said horcrees [16:46] <Selina> opposite sides (maybe), living like that with their families [16:46] <Sofie> i think they were buddies [16:46] <x0ginnyW0x> hah, we're into an indepth Snape discussion [16:46] <Sofie> snape and lily [16:46] <Selina> cbm, i think so. with the whole pensieve scene being like right out of a fanfic i think it's possible [16:46] <SageSparks> I kind of dread reading about Harry being a total nightmarish boor, hating Snape obsessively until he realizes right at the end that he has to find him and ask him for help. [16:46] <Selina> i know, not the point... [16:46] <Sofie> do you think snape wanted to show harry that memory? [16:46] <SageSparks> He'll be worse about Snape than he was about Malfoy. And he was dreadful about Malfoy. [16:47] <Selina> at the podcast (lol, desperately trying), i really think it was cool how everybody who spoke had interesting, insightful things to say [16:47] <Sofie> i dont think it was an accident [16:47] <Selina> there are so many great theories out there, and everyone's got them [16:47] <magicmeg8> Susan from Scribbulus brought up the point that Dumbledore used Harry and Snape as tools (but not in an evil way) because of the fact that the Order is in a war. Do you agree with this? Why or why not? [16:47] <miss_danielle> I want to know about Snape's childhood for sure [16:47] <miss_danielle> i think they were friends [16:47] <miss_danielle> No he didn't want Harry to see that memory [16:47] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [16:47] <x0ginnyW0x> DD is the ultimate Chess master [16:47] <SageSparks> Like chess pieces. [16:47] <cbm> I don't think it was an accident either, Snapes liked to point out James bad points [16:47] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [16:48] <Selina> yeah, I love dumbledore but he did have a war to fight [16:48] <Sofie> dd used harry in ootp. and i hated him for doing that [16:48] <x0ginnyW0x> Like John said during the COS commentary, you know DD was sitting right above Slytherin's head with a bowl of popcorn [16:48] <Selina> i don't think he was 100% cold though [16:48] <Selina> he really did care for snape i think [16:48] <Sofie> and he used harry in ps too [16:48] <Selina> we don't know why ofc [16:48] <Selina> he did, but if he knew harry couldn't die [16:48] <Selina> then he needed to prepare him [16:49] <Sofie> i bet he has a huse plasma screen tv in his office... [16:49] <Sofie> *huge [16:49] <Selina> even though I suppose... yeah, dd is complex too. he did love harry though... it just showed how incapable of controlling the situation he really was [16:49] <Selina> LOL sofie biggrin [16:49] <SageSparks> I think that Dumbledore had a scary tendency to sit back and detachedly watch events that he should have stepped in on. It's not like he was the chess master, exactly. [16:49] <x0ginnyW0x> Like one of those security guards [16:49] <tbunny> I always thought there was something menacing about it [16:49] <SageSparks> He wasn't really controlling anyone. [16:50] <SageSparks> Just watching them savage one another. [16:50] <Selina> i don't agree with him being detached, but otherwise you have a good point [16:50] <magicmeg8> I think DD is complex, but maybe we think he's lexx complex than Snape because we don't see as many negative aspects to him in comparison to snape [16:50] <Selina> i think he cared very much [16:50] <miss_danielle> I do think he handles the situation with Harry questionably sometimes. [16:50] <Selina> but he didn't jump in [16:50] <miss_danielle> Hes like the Duke in Measure for Measure *gasps* sorry lol [16:50] <Selina> which helped harry in the end though didn't it? [16:50] <miss_danielle> english lit reference lol [16:50] <Sofie> lol [16:50] <SageSparks> I think he cares, but he cares like we do. Like people who absolutely care but absolutely cannot change things in the story.. [16:50] <x0ginnyW0x> I was just typing that Sage biggrin [16:50] <Selina> i was so appalled at the whole "i'm safe when i'm with you" from book 6, because that must just give harry sooo much guilt... [16:50] <x0ginnyW0x> Took the words off my keyboard [16:51] <tbunny> He was somewhat redeemed when he confessed at the end, but before that I kept thinking Harry would realise how manipulated he'd been and turn on Dumbleddore... [16:51] <SageSparks> Hehe, sorry Ginny smile [16:51] <SageSparks> Yeah. It's a good thing Harry's kinda dim like that! :P [16:51] <Selina> lol tbunny [16:51] <Selina> never [16:51] <Selina> biggrin he is [16:51] <magicmeg8> Well, I think Harry's loyalty really comes into play in that respect, Tams (tbunny) [16:51] <stewiegryf> well everyone, i've gotten get going [16:51] <x0ginnyW0x> Sometimes I just want to kick Harry when he doesn't realize something [16:52] <magicmeg8> haha [16:52] <Selina> i liked at the podcast how they brought up the big questions, to give everyone a chance [16:52] <stewiegryf> bye! [16:52] <Selina> bye! [16:52] *** stewiegryf left #lounge [] [16:52] <LJ> bye Stewie [16:52] <Selina> even though it has been discussed to death [16:52] <magicmeg8> me, too, selina [16:52] <Sofie> im worried because i think harry wont realize that snape is on his isde [16:52] <Selina> they were good topics to bring up [16:52] <magicmeg8> Do you think Dumbldore's death was a sacrifice? Why or why not? Was it a conscious sacrifice? [16:52] <tbunny> Yes, that blind loyalty, Nice trait [16:52] <miss_danielle> harry wont realise i dont think - until its too late [16:52] <Selina> yeah i do [16:53] <x0ginnyW0x> Well, since Snape is evil and all..... [16:53] <miss_danielle> Lol [16:53] <SageSparks> I think it was an unplanned sacrifice. [16:53] <x0ginnyW0x> You all know what my answer is going to be [16:53] <magicmeg8> lol. yes, i supose your stance on snape really decides that [16:53] <Sofie> it was planned since he destroyed the horcrux [16:53] <x0ginnyW0x> Ooh I like that Sage [16:53] <SageSparks> I think he decided in the moment. [16:53] <Selina> i am convinced there was occlumency. dd chose to protect harry, and he knew that he was going to die. he chose to protect draco, and make snape seem completely loyal to voldemort [16:53] <Selina> i agree sage, it wasn't planned [16:53] <SageSparks> There were too many factors that could not have been planned. [16:53] <SageSparks> Like him being disarmed. [16:54] <Selina> there wasn't an unbreakable i think, at least not for that particular situation [16:54] <Sofie> i believe he knew he was dying because of his burned hand [16:54] <x0ginnyW0x> I guess he sacrificed himself in the sense that he used his last moment to freeze Harry instead of defending himself [16:54] <Selina> maybe something like you must do what has to be done [16:54] <Selina> do you really? what was up with that burned hand anyway? [16:54] <x0ginnyW0x> but in the sense that it was planned with snape [16:54] <Selina> but there's another thing- [16:54] <x0ginnyW0x> :p [16:54] <x0ginnyW0x> *:p [16:54] <x0ginnyW0x> god I can never get that smilie to work [16:55] <Sofie> i think the potion that was suppoed to protect that ring was fatal [16:55] <miss_danielle> Does anyway think that Snape knows about all the horcruxes? [16:55] <Selina> dd said that snape was the only one who could help him - did he know that he had to be killed, or did he at that moment think he could survive? because he was so shocked about the attack on the school [16:55] <SageSparks> I think he froze Harry as a momentary precaution, actually. Not intending to make it like how Harry had been left by Draco on the train. [16:55] <Selina> lol ginny [16:55] <magicmeg8> A few of the audience members brought up that DD had been dying since the beginning of the book [16:55] <Sofie> i think DD told snape about the horcruxes [16:55] <SageSparks> He surely had been. [16:55] <miss_danielle> Snape is a potions master after all - who says he didnt do the green stuff [16:55] <x0ginnyW0x> I'm not even going to talk about Snape anymore because everybody knows what I'm going to say biggrin [16:55] <Sofie> lol [16:55] <x0ginnyW0x> I'll just sit back and read for a while [16:55] <SageSparks> Awww.. [16:56] <Selina> because also - i don't understand! whyyy did dumbledore take the drink in the first place? What was the hurry?? he didn't even try to conjure up like a bucket or a goat, he weakened himself and left harry in that awful situation [16:56] <magicmeg8> Good point, selina. [16:56] <x0ginnyW0x> DD knew what was going on [16:56] <Sofie> conjure a goat lol [16:56] <NickTLC> quit [16:56] <yellowpepper2311> that's exactly what I'm doing THE. lol [16:56] <SageSparks> He knew an awful lot more than we did. [16:56] *** NickTLC has quit [Bye] [16:56] <x0ginnyW0x> he knew he had to drink it, LV planned it that way [16:56] <Selina> they couldn't have gone back to get snape? or brought the phoenix? it annoyed me [16:56] <x0ginnyW0x> and he also counted on Snape curing him [16:56] <x0ginnyW0x> Which didn't happen *cough* [16:56] <magicmeg8> Susan from Scribbulus brought up that Dumbledore could have called Fawkes to eat the Killing Curse, as he did in the Ministry. 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[16:56] <Selina> maybe he did ginny
[16:56] <miss_danielle> Lol [16:56] <Selina> but then he changed his ming [16:57] <SageSparks> I agree, Ginny biggrin [16:57] <Sofie> i dont think so. he knew he was going to die anyway [16:57] <SageSparks> The Fawkes Block doesn't seem like something Dumbledore can just summon. [16:57] <tbunny> nice chatting with you all, catch you later! [16:57] *** tbunny left #lounge [] [16:57] <Selina> yeah that was my point magicmeg. i think he could have, but i chose to take the potion - maybe he was preparing harry for something [16:57] <SageSparks> I think Fawkes is more independent than that. [16:57] <Selina> I? i mean he [16:57] <x0ginnyW0x> I think DDs mind was reeling so fast with the betrayal of Snape that he really didn't have time to think about it [16:57] <x0ginnyW0x> he was too concerned with everything else [16:57] <magicmeg8> LoL sage. "fawkes block" [16:58] <SageSparks> It's my favorite battle move smile [16:58] <Sofie> calling fawkes wasnt part of their plan (DD and snape) [16:58] <x0ginnyW0x> I mean at the ministry he had to know LV was going to try and pull the AK [16:58] <Selina> maybe fawkes knew like dd that this was what was supposed to happen [16:58] <magicmeg8> Well, it was debated whether calling fawkes would have been just too great of a spell to do -- like sage mentioned. [16:58] <x0ginnyW0x> It sounds like something from Pokemon Sage [16:58] <Selina> maybe everybody has taken felix felicis [16:58] <Selina> and he knew what to do... [16:58] <Selina> i dunno [16:58] <SageSparks> Maybe Fawkes was busy. [16:58] <Selina> smile [16:58] <Selina> lol sage [16:58] <Sofie> lol [16:58] <Selina> sure [16:58] <miss_danielle> So many questions....so few answers [16:58] <miss_danielle> lol [16:58] <Selina> lol [16:59] <x0ginnyW0x> Fawkes was too concerned preening her feathers to go save DD, psh [16:59] <SageSparks> He might have been little featherless babyFawkes at that point. [16:59] <Selina> well did we kind of kill this discussion or? :P [16:59] <magicmeg8> LoL. [16:59] <magicmeg8> Let's move on, everyone --Did you like have Leaky staff on the panel other than the Pottercasters? [16:59] <SageSparks> Er, oops. Yeah. Back to the Podcast. Susan ruled. [16:59] <cbm> But that would not of saved DD, as Snape could just do the curse again [16:59] <cbm> yes [16:59] <Sofie> someone should call jo and ask her all these questions [16:59] <x0ginnyW0x> Leaky staff rocks, they have so much to contribute [16:59] <Selina> yeah but i didn't know who they were [17:00] <Sofie> they all rocked [17:00] <Selina> i think people like sue and laura need to speak up more smile [17:00] <miss_danielle> yeah i did - all great [17:00] <yellowpepper2311> definitely selina [17:00] <magicmeg8> Susan is new to the Scribbulus staff -- she was on PC 49. Naomi is in charge of Transcription Elves, and then there was Doris [17:00] <Selina> it was also good to give others a chancee, and they did such a good job [17:00] <Sofie> yeah, i wanted to hear laura. she is my fav from the mcasters [17:00] <magicmeg8> I would have liked to hear more from Laura as well [17:00] <Selina> and thank goodness for the leaky staffers in the trivia contest smile [17:00] <magicmeg8> Definitely, Selinia [17:00] <yellowpepper2311> I dedn't even notice laura was there [17:01] <Selina> but laura is not on leaky ;) she is awesome though [17:01] <x0ginnyW0x> Well I don't know about Laura, but Sue is usually quiet (unless we're talking about Hufflepuff or Jason Isaacs) [17:01] <Selina> lol ginny [17:01] <Sofie> lol [17:01] <Selina> they should have biggrin [17:01] <yellowpepper2311> te-he-he [17:01] <magicmeg8> True. [17:01] *** Starlysh has joined #lounge [17:02] <Sofie> why is everybody so quiet? [17:02] <Selina> in a way i felt the podcast needed that personal touch - it had the songs and all, but one of the things i adore most about pottercast is the funny moments, and there weren't many in the actual discussions - that's the difference between a podcast and a discussion panel, and they really need to decide what it was... though never mind i guess that's the point of calling it a discussion [17:02] <Selina> sorry for a very long meaningless post [17:02] <Selina> smile [17:02] <Selina> lol someone has to talk biggrin [17:03] *** SageSparks has quit [Bye] [17:03] <x0ginnyW0x> I'm busy getting angry at the article about Lumos Sofie biggrin [17:03] *** SageSparks has joined #lounge [17:03] <Starlysh> yeah, it was much more intellectual than I was expecting [17:03] <Selina> tlol [17:03] <miss_danielle> That article is terrible [17:03] <Sofie> i liked how they talked about the BIG questions [17:03] <Selina> yeah [17:03] <Starlysh> yeah [17:03] <SageSparks> I liked that about it! [17:03] <SageSparks> I like the academic conversation best. [17:03] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [17:03] <Starlysh> Yeah, I did enjoy it [17:03] <SageSparks> It makes me feel like being an HP freak is a smart thing to do smile [17:03] <Selina> yeah that's what i said, it was good because they can not be discussed enough, and everybody has an opinion on that [17:03] <magicmeg8> Me too, Sage [17:03] <Selina> lol sage [17:03] *** jgarden14 has joined #lounge [17:03] <cbm> The article is awful [17:03] <Selina> sure [17:03] *** Mokey has quit [Bye] [17:03] <Starlysh> I think Ben was reading off something..he kept looking down [17:04] <x0ginnyW0x> Hello Shua and Mokey [17:04] *** Selina has quit [Bye] [17:04] <jgarden14> Hey [17:04] *** jgarden14 has quit [Bye] [17:04] <Starlysh> hi! [17:04] *** jgarden14 has joined #lounge [17:04] <Starlysh> wb [17:04] <Sofie> does anybody know when PC is gonna be released? [17:04] *** Selina has joined #lounge [17:04] <magicmeg8> There's no PC this week [17:04] <Selina> oops [17:05] <Selina> will the ny one be about any time soon? [17:05] <Sofie> :( "just" the NY Leakymeg? [17:05] <LJ> yeah [17:05] <magicmeg8> That's the priority at the moment. [17:05] <LJ> they said on TLC it'll be out in a few days [17:05] <Selina> that wasn't streamed so i am so excited [17:05] <Starlysh> hehe...leakymeg [17:05] <magicmeg8> lol [17:05] <miss_danielle> lol [17:05] <SageSparks> I'm looking forward to the LeakyMug NY 'cast. [17:05] <Starlysh> me too! [17:05] <Sofie> lol yes stupid typo [17:05] <x0ginnyW0x> lol [17:05] <magicmeg8> What did you think of John and Melissa singing? [17:06] <SageSparks> That was just bizarre. [17:06] <x0ginnyW0x> Staticy, but lots of fun [17:06] <Starlysh> Adorable! [17:06] <Selina> Loooooved it! [17:06] <Sofie> awesome [17:06] <miss_danielle> loved it as well [17:06] <Selina> i wish the quality of the sound was better [17:06] <Starlysh> I loved the little changes too [17:06] <Selina> and that melissa had more confidence biggrin [17:06] <Selina> Lose The Tone [17:06] <cloudpic> I wasn't at Lumos...but, yeah, the singing was really a riot!! [17:06] <magicmeg8> haha, Selina, well, singing is very much a vulnerable act. [17:06] <SageSparks> If I'd been there, I think I would have liked it better. [17:06] <magicmeg8> That's ok cloudpic smile [17:07] <Selina> i loved the part right before, that was my favorite. just melissa going on about how awful it was be and john just going, 'no it will be lovely' ^_^ [17:07] <Selina> and it was! [17:07] <SageSparks> Lovely, indeed. Albeit difficult to hear. [17:07] *** TheWandmaker has joined #lounge [17:07] <magicmeg8> I think it took a lot of nerve for them to sing in front of everyone. [17:07] <Selina> i liked the new york new york one, but i was disappointed because i thought he was going to sing it to jo :P [17:07] <magicmeg8> Well, maybe not so much for John smile [17:07] <Selina> and i would have loooved it [17:07] <miss_danielle> Lol [17:07] <SageSparks> I would have been crying. CRYING. [17:07] <Selina> lol! [17:07] <SageSparks> If I'd had to sing, I mean. [17:07] <magicmeg8> haha. [17:07] <Selina> lol [17:07] <cloudpic> John has enough nerve for several people!! [17:08] <Selina> but is was so good [17:08] <magicmeg8> So, as we've learned by now, it turns out that PotterCast and MuggleCast are both up for Podcast Awards. Did you vote? Were you surprised? [17:08] <Sofie> im sure jo would have appreciated it [17:08] <cloudpic> Yes! Voted! [17:08] <miss_danielle> i have voted - i hope they win [17:08] *** TheWandmaker has quit [Bye] [17:08] <Selina> we had the live chat in here and when he started up everyone just went ballistic biggrin [17:08] <SageSparks> I voted. And I was not surprised. [17:08] <Selina> yes i vote almost every day... [17:08] <SageSparks> They deserve it. [17:08] <Starlysh> I voted! And HP fans are a powerful bunch, so not so much surprised [17:08] <Sofie> im voting every day with ti e-mail addresses [17:08] <miss_danielle> definitely deserved [17:08] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [17:08] <x0ginnyW0x> the least I can do is vote with all the hard work that goes into PC [17:08] <magicmeg8> You can vote everyday with the same one, actually, Sofie. [17:08] <Selina> and i am in such a dilemma, because the ocd and jay&jack are in the excact same categories... but duh, pottercast! [17:09] <Sofie> *two [17:09] <Selina> it's so funny that they are trying to bribe us with a leaky mug ^_^ [17:09] <Selina> i hope they will have one though [17:09] <Sofie> yeah meg but i vote every day twice [17:09] <jgarden14> Of course voting, but I'm upset that MC gets people's choice while PC gest entertament. [17:09] <cloudpic> Yeah, like we need bribing...hehehe [17:09] <Selina> potter for president biggrin [17:09] <Starlysh> I'm excited for them all to come to Cali [17:09] <magicmeg8> I agree Shua (jg) [17:09] <Starlysh> I hope they do a LM [17:09] <Selina> it doesn't matter, if both win... seriously guys imagine [17:09] <Selina> but guys, [17:09] <jgarden14> PC didn't want entertament and MC did. [17:09] <Sofie> i have an avatar which says that salina [17:09] <cloudpic> Or...Hermione for President *wink* [17:10] <Selina> what happens if only one wins? after all this working together that will be just so saf [17:10] <Selina> d [17:10] <Selina> lol sofie biggrin [17:10] <magicmeg8> Well, I don' tknow, as long as one of them wins....well, really PC then i'm ok [17:10] <Selina> hehe girl power smile [17:10] <SageSparks> I don't think that's possible. I think they will both win. [17:10] <Starlysh> test [17:10] <cloudpic> yeah, I wondered about "splitting the vote. [17:10] *** Starlysh has quit [Bye] [17:10] <SageSparks> The sheer number of fans... [17:10] *** Lizzieangel90 has joined #lounge [17:10] <Selina> really? mc does tend to win in podcast alley [17:10] <Selina> they are leading now [17:10] *** kyrane has quit [Bye] [17:10] <magicmeg8> Hey lizzie! [17:10] <Selina> don't forget to vote guys :P [17:10] <Lizzieangel90> YAY i haven't missed it! smile [17:10] <Selina> lol yay [17:10] <SageSparks> Yeah, but the vote splitting has been arbitrated. [17:10] <x0ginnyW0x> Hey Lizzie! [17:11] <magicmeg8> Nope, we were just atlking about the Podcast Awards [17:11] <Sofie> i think both of them will be hapy no matter which one wins [17:11] <cloudpic> Oh, good, thanks Sage [17:11] *** Starlysh has joined #lounge [17:11] <Selina> but still, there will be no leaky mug [17:11] <SageSparks> Well, I mean it's been arbitrated by the sites, themselves. [17:11] <cloudpic> Yeah, they [17:11] <Lizzieangel90> oh they want to do a leakymug out in LA..that's why they both want to win [17:11] <SageSparks> As in, we know which to vote for. [17:11] <Selina> and it will not be good, because they love each other really [17:11] <Starlysh> I would so go [17:11] <cloudpic> are a friendly bunch....sort of [17:11] <Selina> that's not why, that's bait lizzie biggrin [17:12] <Lizzieangel90> lol too true selina [17:12] <yellowpepper2311> *yawns* Gotta go now. I'm soooo tired and my head just keeps banging against my keyboard. So ... goodnight guys! [17:12] <Sofie> John said they want to win because they want to have a Lm in Cali [17:12] <Selina> bye yellow smile [17:12] <x0ginnyW0x> Goodnight! [17:12] <Lizzieangel90> byebye yellowpepper!! *hugs* [17:12] <Sofie> bye erna [17:12] <cloudpic> night, bye [17:12] <yellowpepper2311> byeeeeee [17:12] <Selina> lol yes sofie, a good cause indeed... now i want to vote so much :P [17:12] *** wronskifeint has joined #lounge [17:12] *** yellowpepper2311 left #lounge [] [17:12] <Selina> nah i already did [17:12] <Selina> :P [17:12] <SageSparks> It would be a fun LeakyMug. But they also should win just because they should. [17:12] <Selina> yeah sage [17:12] <Sofie> lol yes [17:13] <Starlysh> yeah [17:13] <magicmeg8> Those of you that listened to the 'Cast live, what did you think of Alex, from The Remus Lupins, act? [17:13] <Selina> i guess there are no jay&jack fans in here? [17:13] <cloudpic> Do they do the LeakyMug with some kind of script or notes or just wing it? [17:13] <Selina> i'm sure there is a script [17:13] <Selina> or cue cards [17:13] <wronskifeint> I didn't think so [17:13] <SageSparks> I don't think so, either. [17:13] <Lizzieangel90> Alex RULES!! smile [17:13] <Selina> magicmeg, honestly? [17:13] <cloudpic> What could you see? [17:13] <SageSparks> They talk over one another too much. [17:13] <x0ginnyW0x> I missed the Remus Lupin act [17:13] <Starlysh> I felt bad because he was having sound problems...but I love him, he's really good [17:13] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [17:13] <cloudpic> Yeah...maybe just a kind of outline or something [17:14] <wronskifeint> oh maybe [17:14] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [17:14] <Sofie> im off to bed, its past 11pm here [17:14] <Selina> i liked his songs, but i'm not a big fan of over exerting. I think he has a lot of self confidence, which is usually a good thing, but it was a little too much [17:14] <Starlysh> I think they had an outline [17:14] <cloudpic> Night, Sofie [17:14] <x0ginnyW0x> Sorry got kicked again [17:14] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [17:14] <Sofie> see ya later guys! [17:14] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [17:14] <Selina> but don't listen to me, i'm danish. i am ruled by the law of jante [17:14] <Selina> bye!! [17:14] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [17:14] <magicmeg8> unfortunately, I didn't get to hear Alex either -- as i wasn't there for the streaming cast [17:14] <magicmeg8> night sofie! [17:14] <Lizzieangel90> byebye sofie! [17:14] <SageSparks> I like The Remus Lupins, but I guess I agree. He's a bit over the top sometimes. [17:14] *** Sofie has quit [Bye] [17:15] <cloudpic> Takes time to get "polished" so you know how much is too much... [17:15] <Lizzieangel90> yeah...but you gotta think...it was a room full of 700 harry potter fans.. you're going to be over the top [17:15] <wronskifeint> yeah really [17:15] <Selina> that's probably why i had a problem with the music during the trivia contest. but i think the idea of opening with a band was great [17:15] <Selina> except everyone was just waiting for the casters, at least in here [17:15] <SageSparks> I stand by what I said. The music during the trivia contest was adorable! smile [17:15] <cloudpic> I'd have loved to see the trivia contest.... [17:15] <Starlysh> and we were all sitting down...the Harry and the Potters concert was a big open room for dancing and stuff [17:15] *** x0ginnyW0x has joined #lounge [17:15] <x0ginnyW0x> test? [17:16] <Selina> and there was a lot of discussion regarding his choice of words. he swore several times, and while i didn't mind it i know some people were a bit shocked by it [17:16] <Starlysh> I think it's funny [17:16] <Selina> hi again ginny smile [17:16] <x0ginnyW0x> Hi, I got kicked again [17:16] <x0ginnyW0x> *headdesk* [17:16] <magicmeg8> Well, i suppose that's a risk with live streaming audio [17:16] <cloudpic> HP crowds tend to be PG13...no? [17:16] <wronskifeint> Yeah, I assumed that [17:17] <SageSparks> I wouldn't think the cussing would really bother anyone. [17:17] <Selina> yeah i know. maybe there should have been a warning... i don't know, i really didn't even notice it [17:17] <magicmeg8> The (ginny) have you been pressing the backspace? 'cause that will happen [17:17] <SageSparks> We're all so incredibly mature. [17:17] <SageSparks> :P [17:17] <Selina> i just saw that everybody commented on it [17:17] <Starlysh> I don't think he knew he was only supposed to be like a 20 minute act [17:17] <Selina> some people are sensitive to it [17:17] <cloudpic> And worldly [17:17] <x0ginnyW0x> I didn't realize I was, but I might have [17:17] *** Wizardmom has joined #lounge [17:17] <cloudpic> heheheh [17:17] <magicmeg8> Hey wizardmom smile [17:17] <Selina> was he loger than 20 minutes? [17:17] <Starlysh> yeah [17:17] <x0ginnyW0x> My typing is erratic at best biggrin [17:17] <Selina> hm [17:17] <Lizzieangel90> the language didn't bother me...but i didn't hear much of his act...to busy running around... [17:17] <Starlysh> :) [17:18] <magicmeg8> Did anyone have difficulty listening to the 'Cast as it was so long? [17:18] <Lizzieangel90> yeah he was longer than 20 minutes [17:18] <Selina> well... he was enjoying himself, it was easy to tell. even if i did get a little tiny bit fed up, i think it brought everyone in the mood [17:18] <Selina> in the mood ^_^ [17:18] <SageSparks> Nope! That made it better. [17:18] <Selina> yo [17:18] <SageSparks> 'Cause, er... I was at work. [17:18] <x0ginnyW0x> Nope [17:18] <cloudpic> Kept getting interrupted by RW [17:18] <Wizardmom> the length didn't bug me at all... I wish it was longer [17:18] <Selina> no the more the better!! [17:18] <SageSparks> And I hate my job. [17:18] *** wronskifeint left #lounge [] [17:18] <miss_danielle> No I was ok - had plenty of time [17:18] <x0ginnyW0x> I wish the podcasts were longer in general [17:18] <cbm> I was on a long trip, it was no problem. I enjoyed it! [17:18] <magicmeg8> I did, personally. but that's 'cause i have to listen to it devoid of other distractions [17:18] <Selina> aw sage [17:19] <cloudpic> I couldn't listen driving...I'd go off the road laughing!! [17:19] <Selina> me too ginny, but then people can't burn them on cds [17:19] <SageSparks> I sneak headphones under my apron, run them up beneath my collar and hide them under my hair. All for PotterCast. [17:19] <Starlysh> I really had to use the loo by the end...lots of sitting. I didn't mind the length though; I could listen to them for a long time [17:19] <Selina> i wish they could put down the quality a tad and then have the show be 20 mins longer smile [17:19] <cbm> It was the NJ turnpike, perfectly straight [17:19] <Selina> *dreams* [17:19] <Wizardmom> My only grudge was I wish they could have put The Remus Lupins on there [17:19] <SageSparks> I wished that too. Alex makes me laugh. [17:19] <cloudpic> That helpssmile [17:19] <Selina> i wished it would have gone on longer because i stayed up for it, and it finished at 6 in the morning smile [17:20] <Selina> it could have been till 7 [17:20] <cloudpic> whoa! [17:20] <Selina> ah well i went to sleep anyway [17:20] <SageSparks> And really, I need way more than two hours of Potter-listening in a week. [17:20] <Starlysh> totally [17:20] <Selina> yeah me too sage! i am just a podcast junkie though [17:20] <Selina> i listen to the harmony podcast! and i am a r/hr shipper! [17:20] <cloudpic> Oooo, sorry, gotta go fix dinner...nice chat - [17:20] <Selina> what does that make me? :P [17:21] <Selina> bye cloudpic smile [17:21] <Aislinn> bye cloudpic [17:21] <cloudpic> bye!! [17:21] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [17:21] <SageSparks> I've never listened to the Harmony one. I listen to that Catholic one, though. [17:21] <Aislinn> there's a catholic one? [17:21] <SageSparks> Oh man. [17:21] <SageSparks> It is so good. [17:21] <Selina> catholic hp? really..? [17:21] <miss_danielle> what does it involve? [17:21] <SageSparks> It's called "Secrets of Harry Potter" [17:22] <SageSparks> It involves a priest talking about Harry Potter. It's very positive. [17:22] *** Wizardmom has quit [Bye] [17:22] <miss_danielle> Lol and what are these secrets [17:22] <Selina> well it's good to know devout catholics don't all think hp is evil [17:22] <SageSparks> It's like Chicken Soup for the Harry Potter Fan's Soul. [17:22] <Selina> like in mugglecastsmile [17:22] <Aislinn> lol [17:22] <x0ginnyW0x> I go to a Catholic school, and I know nobody who thinks HP is evil [17:22] <SageSparks> It's only 15 minutes long usually. [17:22] *** Starlysh has quit [Bye] [17:22] *** Starlysh has joined #lounge [17:22] <x0ginnyW0x> The teachers even assign it a summer reading [17:23] <SageSparks> But it's a good 15 minutes. [17:23] <Selina> my old roommate was catholic, and she said that her parents said they didn't want her reading the books... [17:23] <miss_danielle> really? thats so strange [17:23] <SageSparks> My boyfriend is Catholic. This podcast is what made him want to read the books. [17:23] <Selina> but that's cool ginny. i know it's just a few extremists [17:23] <Selina> that's why the catholic podcast is such a good thing [17:23] <SageSparks> And now I have to deal with his idiotic theories! :P [17:24] <miss_danielle> lol sage [17:24] <Aislinn> it seems to be more of the evangelical sects of protestants that I hear the objections from [17:24] <Selina> lol sage [17:24] <x0ginnyW0x> Yes, protestants are more against HP [17:24] *** Starlysh has quit [Bye] [17:24] <Selina> well my friend is spanish, and the society can be stricter [17:24] <SageSparks> I'm going to collect all his theories for a post for LL sometime. [17:24] <SageSparks> The priest is Spanish smile [17:24] <Selina> at least her parents [17:24] <Selina> really? well what a coincidence :P [17:25] <SageSparks> Well, he might not be. But he lives in Spain. [17:25] <Selina> i am not generalising anyway, so that's good [17:25] <Selina> anyway [17:25] <x0ginnyW0x> I mean there was that whole thing with the pope, but I don't think anybody took that seriously, or at least anybody I know [17:25] <Selina> are we a little off topic? [17:25] <SageSparks> Er.. maybe? [17:25] <miss_danielle> lol [17:25] <SageSparks> It might be my fault. [17:25] <SageSparks> I apologize. [17:25] <Lizzieangel90> my catholic church doesn't like harry potter but doesn't forbid it.. but i'm not totally sure on that as i fail at going to church.. lol [17:25] <Selina> some people did. but a minority definitely! [17:25] <Selina> lol np [17:25] <Selina> it's interesting [17:25] <Aislinn> somebody say dawlish, and we'll be back on topic [17:25] <SageSparks> Dawlish! [17:25] <Selina> daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawlish [17:25] <Selina> mr. blood [17:25] <miss_danielle> Lol [17:25] <x0ginnyW0x> lol [17:25] <Aislinn> there you go! smile [17:26] <Selina> yay smile [17:26] <x0ginnyW0x> how easy is it to get on topic? [17:26] <Selina> what were we discussing anyway? [17:26] <Selina> the awards? [17:26] <SageSparks> Mr. Blood. [17:26] <Selina> um [17:26] <Selina> mod?? [17:26] <SageSparks> That's what. [17:26] <Selina> yeah sure, let's just discuss that biggrin haha [17:26] <Selina> i have it you have it mr. blood is everywhere, tralala [17:26] <x0ginnyW0x> We need the mods to get their mod-sticks out and beat us back into shape biggrin [17:26] <SageSparks> I have an off-topic HP question. It's a Canon Conundrum. [17:26] <Selina> ooooo [17:26] <Aislinn> lol [17:27] <miss_danielle> ooooh go for it [17:27] <Aislinn> go ahead sage [17:27] <Selina> sure no one is telling us what to talk about [17:27] <Selina> i think we scared the mods away [17:27] <SageSparks> How does Dumbledore understand Morfin Gaunt's memory when it's all in Parseltongue? [17:27] <SageSparks> "You speak it?" [17:27] *** twinmunchkins has joined #lounge [17:27] <Aislinn> lol - I got here late, so I'm not sure what you've discussed already [17:28] <Selina> um, maybe he remembers it in normal language? [17:28] <Selina> harry isn't aware of speaking parseltongue [17:28] <Aislinn> I think Dumbledore understands Parseltongue [17:28] <SageSparks> But the whole thing is in italics. [17:28] <cbm> Maybe there is a spell to decode parseltonngue? [17:28] <Selina> it's an unconscious thing, and harry obviously perceived it as notmal english [17:28] *** Skiplives has joined #lounge [17:28] <Aislinn> hi skiplives [17:28] <Skiplives> back again [17:28] <SageSparks> That's a good point, Selina. [17:28] <Selina> i don't think dd is a parselmouth, but it's possible he understands it [17:28] <Selina> hi skiplives [17:28] <miss_danielle> i agree [17:28] <Selina> smile [17:29] <Skiplives> hi all [17:29] *** twinmunchkins has quit [Bye] [17:29] <SageSparks> But it just seems odd. The Lexicon doesn't list it as a language Dumbledore speaks, just as one he recognizes. [17:29] <miss_danielle> hi skiplives [17:29] <SageSparks> And I remember things in English 'cause I speak English. [17:29] <miss_danielle> Very true [17:29] *** twinmunchkins has joined #lounge [17:29] <Selina> yeah, but it's possible to learn it i'm sure, but if he is not a genetic parselmouth he will be unable to make the sounds he perceive [17:29] <Selina> kind of like me speaking arabic [17:29] <Aislinn> he does seem to understand what is being said in that scene [17:30] <Selina> not that i understand arabic [17:30] <SageSparks> Anyone bilingual want to weigh in on what language you remember things in? [17:30] <Selina> but i wouldn't be able to speak it anyway [17:30] <Selina> yeah me! [17:30] <x0ginnyW0x> Yo no hablo espanol [17:30] <Selina> i speak english and danish fluently, and i think in engligh [17:30] <SageSparks> He definitely does understand the speech in that memory. [17:30] <x0ginnyW0x> or any other language [17:30] <Selina> but it's a bit different because parselmouth is an unconscious language [17:30] <Skiplives> Any Clint Eastwood fans out there? [17:30] <SageSparks> I speak Latin. I do not think in Latin unless I'm remembering something that's, well, in Latin. [17:30] <Skiplives> Firefox [17:31] <x0ginnyW0x> Okaym how did we get onto Clint Eastwood? [17:31] <x0ginnyW0x> How off topic are we? [17:31] <miss_danielle> Clint Eastwood rules [17:31] <Skiplives> he played a character that had to think in Russian to steal a plane [17:31] <cbm> I thought he was talking about web browswers [17:31] <x0ginnyW0x> Lumos guys focus [17:31] <magicmeg8> OK, everyone, let's stay on topic smile. Selina brought up a good point. [17:31] <Selina> in cos harry had difficulty switching. he couldn't think in parseltongue, he could only speak it cause "he can speak to snakes". he could only speak it when pretending that the water thing was a snake [17:31] <magicmeg8> Considering it was a Canon Conundrum, I think we can explore it. [17:31] <miss_danielle> i suppose Parseltongue is not like a normal language [17:31] <Selina> so he remembered it in english [17:32] <Selina> ok, take html. i write it, but when i want to make something bold i don't think <b>... [17:32] <SageSparks> For Morfin, I don't think Parselmouth is subconscious. I think it's a conscious, elitist choice for him to speak it. [17:32] <Selina> mabe a bad comparison :P [17:32] *** twinmunchkins has quit [Bye] [17:32] <SageSparks> And I think he thinks in it. [17:32] <Aislinn> elitist, sage? [17:32] <SageSparks> It's so much a part of his identity. [17:32] <Selina> that would be logical sage [17:33] <cbm> remembering in english makes sense, but jk said a pensive is what actually happens, not affected by your memory [17:33] <SageSparks> I think that the Gaunts speak Parselmouth to establish a degree of esoteric "otherness." [17:33] <Aislinn> good point [17:33] *** jgarden14 has quit [Bye] [17:33] <SageSparks> They do it intentionally to divide themselves from the general population. [17:33] <Selina> but then dd has probably picked it up, like what i said about arabic. no one says you can't learn the language of snakes, just like some people can talk to brids and stuff [17:33] <x0ginnyW0x> Guys, I have to head off, but its been a great chat! [17:33] <Skiplives> bye [17:33] <SageSparks> Bye, Ginny! [17:33] <Aislinn> bye ginnyW! [17:33] <x0ginnyW0x> See ya'll next time around! [17:33] <Selina> no, a pensieve is what you perceive to happen isn't it? [17:33] *** x0ginnyW0x has quit [Bye] [17:33] <Selina> but dd can't make the noices [17:33] <Selina> noises [17:34] <miss_danielle> no its what actually happened [17:34] <miss_danielle> im sure [17:34] <SageSparks> Ahhhh... wait. You're onto something, Selina. He would perceive it in Parselmouth even if it were in English. [17:34] <Aislinn> no, a pensieve is a more objective view of what happened, selina [17:34] <Selina> ok [17:34] <SageSparks> Oh, right. [17:34] <SageSparks> That too smile [17:34] <Selina> i just go by podcasts :P [17:34] <Selina> i'm lost, sage... sorry :P [17:34] <Aislinn> but I wondered that, too, if the pensieve sort of helps "translate" the language or something [17:34] <Selina> yeah [17:34] <SageSparks> I just wonder why JKR would render it in italics. [17:35] <Skiplives> it is a great literary dvice though [17:35] <Skiplives> different language [17:35] <Selina> but if it's compeltely objective then maybe we shoudl assume that dd can understand parselmouth [17:35] <Aislinn> probably to indicate that it was a different language [17:35] <miss_danielle> i dont think it would - i just think maybe hes studied it and can recognise it, but the ability to speak it is more innate or something [17:35] <Selina> question is, how did he lean it? [17:35] <Skiplives> she does the same with french I think [17:35] <SageSparks> Right. A language Dumbledore *does not speak*. [17:35] <SageSparks> He must have learned it. [17:35] <SageSparks> And who taught him? [17:35] <Selina> yeah [17:35] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [17:35] <Selina> the last known parselmouth was voldemort right? or are they just all in slytherin? [17:36] <SageSparks> The only known Parselmouths who were alive during his lifetime were the Gaunts and Riddle. [17:36] <Selina> except harry [17:36] <magicmeg8> Since the latest Canon Conundrum is from PC 48, would you like to discuss it? It's what role house elves will play in the next book. [17:36] <Skiplives> yes [17:36] <Selina> i don't know - i would really like to assume that gaunt remembers it in english, even though i know pensieves don't interpret [17:36] <Aislinn> I think that Dobby knows something about the Malfoy's house that could come in handy [17:36] <Skiplives> I like the idea that they'll play a larger role in the war as well [17:36] <Selina> ok, house elves... i think dobby will help, and kreacher will provide the locket [17:37] <Selina> yeah, that they will be liberated [17:37] <SageSparks> Boyfriend's nutty theory of the hour: Kreacher was the one who helped Regulus get the locket. He drank the potion for Regulus, wasn't detected in the boat 'cause he's an elf... [17:37] <miss_danielle> i think Kreacher is going to cause some mischief [17:37] <Selina> that would be awesome but i don't know if it wouls happen [17:37] <Aislinn> yup, that theory is floating around sage [17:37] <Selina> hmmmmmm maybe sage [17:37] <Selina> but i think he is too dark for that [17:37] <Selina> unless! [17:37] <SageSparks> I don't agree with it, but I think it might explain Kreacher's demeanor. [17:37] <Aislinn> he would have had to obey regulus [17:37] <Skiplives> Sage, it would explain his dementia [17:38] <SageSparks> Unless he was commanded to do it by Master Regulus. [17:38] <Selina> regulus convinced him it was against "mudbloods" and he was acting on regulus' orders [17:38] <Selina> like you all said :P [17:38] <SageSparks> There's just no canon evidence that Kreacher was nice and pleasant before Regulus ran away. [17:38] <Selina> is regulus really dead? [17:38] <Skiplives> I think so [17:38] <Aislinn> me too [17:38] <SageSparks> I think so too. [17:39] <Selina> i think house elves suffer from inbreeding like the purebloods [17:39] <miss_danielle> yeh hes dead [17:39] <Selina> at least kreacher seems to [17:39] <Skiplives> I can see him blowing up at his Aunt [17:39] <Selina> yeah i think he's dead too, just checking smile [17:39] <miss_danielle> smile [17:39] <Selina> whose aunt? [17:39] <Skiplives> Regulus' [17:39] <Selina> oh smile [17:40] <Skiplives> Belatrix [17:40] <Aislinn> what other way can the elves help Harry? [17:40] <Selina> yeah [17:40] <Selina> but we all agree that regulus tried to help the good side? [17:40] <Selina> or was he just defiant? [17:40] <Skiplives> I'd love to see them take out the giants [17:40] <cbm> I agree! [17:40] <Selina> the elves at hogwarts could stand together [17:41] <SageSparks> I think that the elves are pretty neat as a foil for certain real-world class/caste issues, but they aren't really integral to the plot. [17:41] <Selina> omg skiplives that's be awesome! I can see the icon... ^_^ [17:41] <miss_danielle> I think Regulus was helping the good side. I think he was just impressionable, not an evil guy [17:41] <Selina> i don't know sage, they do annoy me a bit with all their anger at the prospect of freedom. i hope they will play a little part, just so they csan see sense [17:41] <Skiplives> I don't know that Regulus wanted to help the good side as much as punish LV for tricking him [17:42] <miss_danielle> yeh that too [17:42] <Skiplives> It's that Black family thing [17:42] <SageSparks> I think that's not unheard of, though. So many people justify their position in society by proudly stating that they are meant to be oppressed. [17:42] <Selina> maybe danielle... i don't know if he was a spy though. seems to me like only snape would have enough erve to pull that off [17:42] *** Estrella has joined #lounge [17:42] <miss_danielle> you can hate LV - but not necessarily be all good two shoes [17:42] <miss_danielle> goody* [17:42] <SageSparks> They just don't say it as clearly as the elves do. [17:42] <miss_danielle> i dont think he was a spy either - more personal revenge [17:42] <magicmeg8> Hey there, estrella smile [17:42] <SageSparks> It seems very personal. [17:43] <Estrella> Hello Meg [17:43] <Selina> yeah sage, but then again, is that the message jo will ultimately want to send out? [17:43] <Selina> hi estrella [17:43] <SageSparks> I asked a pretty dumb question at a Scholatic podcast a few weeks ago regarding the locket. But I still hold to it. [17:43] <Selina> also since she seems to talk so much through hermione - is the whole spew really just comic relief? [17:43] <Estrella> Hello Selina [17:43] <Aislinn> which was? [17:43] <Selina> which? [17:43] <Skiplives> I don't see the elves as liking to be oppressed, they like to work [17:44] <magicmeg8> Have any of you listened to the Scholastic Podcast, besides Selina? [17:44] <Aislinn> right, skip [17:44] <SageSparks> Is it possible that the locket was never in the birdbath to begin with? Like, there's really no reason to believe that the locket was ever there. It could just be a trick. [17:44] <Estrella> There is a difference between helping people and trying to help them without their consent or undesratnding [17:44] <Skiplives> That was my idea also [17:44] <SageSparks> R.A.B. could be a red herring. [17:44] <Aislinn> what would have been the purpose of that trick, though? [17:44] <cbm> I think it was there and RAB got it [17:44] <Selina> hmmmm i think we can assume it's not... voldemort is really not one for treasure hunting is he? [17:44] <Skiplives> I think that LV asked RAB to put the locket in the lake and he pocked it [17:44] <Selina> like, here's the first clue [17:44] <Selina> now step 20 steps to the left [17:44] <Selina> make sure to avoid the inferi [17:45] <Selina> ^_^ [17:45] <SageSparks> Well, everyone's been saying, "If I had a Horcrux, the last thing I'd do is put it in a deep dark cave with a million enchantments protecting it. I'd put it on a shelf in my kitchen or something." [17:45] <SageSparks> Because hiding it in the cave is so obvious. [17:45] <SageSparks> And the more protected it is, the more obvious it becomes. [17:45] <Estrella> It seemed to me, at least from the interview Leaky did with Jo last year that RAB was Regulus Black, [17:45] <cbm> but that was not a normal cave [17:45] <SageSparks> I believe it was Regulus. [17:45] <Skiplives> Agreed [17:45] <Selina> yeah but voldemort is one for show. and he does have shrewd emotional connections with places, like the cave is where he tortured the children [17:46] <Aislinn> I don't think anyone knows about LV's background, or the cave. The only reason DD did was his extensive research [17:46] <SageSparks> But maybe what Regulus took wasn't the Horcrux. [17:46] <miss_danielle> but LV has too much Pride to think like that - he almost wants his awesome protection to be seen [17:46] <Estrella> That locket did see the inside of Grimmauld place and as to whether the locket ever saw the inside of the cave remains to be seen [17:46] <Selina> i agree with danielle [17:46] <SageSparks> I agree with her too. [17:46] <SageSparks> smile [17:46] <Estrella> You may be right it may never have done- however that locket was a Horcrux [17:46] <miss_danielle> wooo smile [17:46] <miss_danielle> lol [17:46] <Estrella> in my opinion anyway- I am known for being wrong [17:46] <Selina> yeah, that would also explain how regulus got past the poison [17:46] <Selina> though maybe that's how he died [17:47] <Selina> wow guys we are so insightful smile [17:47] <Selina> lol [17:47] <SageSparks> I wonder if Regulus was sent to place the Horcrux there to begin with, and that was the task he chickened out on. [17:47] <SageSparks> And that's what got him killed. [17:47] <Estrella> That's a good point sagesparks [17:47] <Selina> maybe he was secret keeper or something [17:47] <Estrella> A lto of people assume Regulus took the locket [17:47] <SageSparks> Maybe LV *knows* that the Horcrux is gone from there. [17:47] <Estrella> What better person to entrust wth the locket than the person no one su[sects [17:47] <SageSparks> Or maybe he doesn't. [17:48] <Selina> voldemort must have trusted him a whole lot though to make him in charge of a horcrix [17:48] <Selina> i don't think he knows [17:48] <Estrella> A little like how the Potters made Wormtail tehir secret keeper- he was likely to be overlooked [17:48] <Selina> hmm [17:48] <Selina> true [17:48] <SageSparks> But just like in the LeakyMug (on topic!), you don't have to trust people if you threaten to kill them. [17:48] <Selina> but that was different, they couldn't legilimens into his brain and check [17:48] <magicmeg8> The transcript of this chat will be available shortly after we finish. It will be posted in our new Corner Booth Forum: http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html .There is also a poll there where you can vote on next weeks Wize Wizard Chat: http://www.leakylounge.com/Topic-Poll-8-9-Wize-Wiza-t31477.html [17:48] <SageSparks> I mean... Voldemort doesn't trust anyone, but it doesn't matter. He'll kill them for not doing it right. [17:48] <Selina> do they kill? what? [17:49] <Selina> yeah true [17:49] <Selina> how much time do we have? maybe we should talk a bit more about the lumos cast? [17:49] <Selina> if anyone has more to say about it [17:49] <Aislinn> 10 minutes selina [17:50] <Selina> thanks [17:50] <SageSparks> Thanks. [17:50] <magicmeg8> Oops, I mean that the transcript will be in the PotterCast Forum [17:50] <miss_danielle> lol smooth [17:50] <miss_danielle> smile [17:50] <Selina> hmmm... i am happy they streamed it live. i wish they would do this more often, because what i really feel is missing in the normal PotterCasts are fan interaction. [17:51] <SageSparks> I wasn't home for the live stream. [17:51] <Selina> the mailbagd are so short, and this way people got to feedback on the spot, and look what interesting discussions and viewpoints came from it [17:51] <magicmeg8> I can see that, Selina, though if the PCs were live every week it would be difficult. [17:51] <Estrella> The problem is the logistics- it's hard to remember the PC crew are doing this alongside their normal jobs [17:51] <Selina> of course, of course [17:51] <magicmeg8> Right. [17:51] <Estrella> Heaven knows I can barely keep organised , I have no idea how they do it LOL [17:51] <miss_danielle> lol [17:51] <Selina> yeah true [17:52] <Selina> i just wish there was more interaction [17:52] <Selina> anyway [17:52] <SageSparks> And my job makes it difficult for me to listen on a schedule! I'm sure the same is true for most fans. [17:52] <SageSparks> I wish there were more chats. [17:52] <Selina> me too smile [17:52] <Estrella> Same here [17:52] <Estrella> Well actually I am a little slow in downloading it due to student laziness , but still [17:53] <Selina> i think in these live casts though, I don't know if it is really possible to control, but they have to avoid a few people dominating the discussion [17:53] <SageSparks> I sit up on Sunday nights pressing "refresh" on PC.com. [17:53] <miss_danielle> wooo student laziness [17:53] <miss_danielle> i hear that [17:54] <Selina> that's a problem though, because fx melidda talks a lot, but she has so many interesting things to say, and so much insight. but in the other end that means that maybe people who are not so willing to speak up and take the stage like sue and laura, who make excellent points, don't get to say as much [17:54] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [17:54] <magicmeg8> Be sure to join us next week, when we'll have a LOT more to talk about smile [17:54] <Selina> i also feel that ben suffers from that as well a little bit, and jamie came all the way from britain yet didn't actually say very much [17:54] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [17:54] <Skiplives> okay [17:54] <Estrella> Brit lads are usually a bit quiet [17:54] <Selina> i will for sure if i remember [17:55] <Estrella> My teenage brother is reduced to monosyllables most of the time [17:55] <SageSparks> Jamie is not usually quiet. [17:55] <Selina> lol yeah, but i would have liked to hear more equally [17:55] <miss_danielle> Brit lads quiet? I wish [17:55] <Skiplives> that's just the testosterone [17:55] *** Lizzieangel90 has quit [Bye] [17:55] <Skiplives> most teenaged boys are limited to mono syyllables [17:55] <magicmeg8> Well, thanks for your contributions today, everyone! [17:55] <Selina> especially because i think john and ben were the hosts, and yet melissa and... i don't know, andrew maybe, talked for most of it. which i repeat wasn't a problem, i love them! but they are all great [17:56] <Selina> ok, we are done? lol [17:56] <Estrella> Time for this little Brit to be in bed [17:56] <magicmeg8> Yep smile [17:56] <Estrella> Great chatting to you all! [17:56] <SageSparks> Hehe.. sleep well. [17:56] <cbm> bye, I have enjoyed it [17:56] <Estrella> Thanks [17:56] <Aislinn> glad you all were able to join in! [17:56] <Selina> wow it's midnight... i should sleep too [17:56] <Skiplives> take care [17:56] <Estrella> byebye guys [17:56] *** Lizzieangel90 has joined #lounge [17:56] <miss_danielle> great chat guys - been good smile [17:56] *** Estrella has quit [Bye] [17:56] <SageSparks> Nice chatting, everyone. [17:56] * SageSparks runs off to make dinner. [17:57] <Selina> this was so much fun! I have to remember it next time, not just stumble in accidentally. [17:57] <magicmeg8> Thank for coming! [17:57] <miss_danielle> lol i stumbled in too [17:57] <SageSparks> Me too smile [17:57] <Aislinn> there are announcements put up in the Lounge [17:57] <Skiplives> I know, but I'm always hit and miss [17:57] <Selina> yeah :P [17:57] <SageSparks> I'm never online at the right time. [17:57] <Selina> i don't get time converting [17:57] <Aislinn> lol [17:57] <SageSparks> I can't complain. I'm only an hour off. [17:57] <Selina> some times it's 8 hours sometimes it's 6... i don't know what i'm doing :P [17:57] <Selina> anyway [17:58] <Selina> see you guys soon! bye! [17:58] <Selina> goodnight! [17:58] <Aislinn> bye selina! [17:58] <Skiplives> bye [17:58] <SageSparks> Bye! [17:58] <miss_danielle> bye! [17:58] *** Selina has quit [Bye] [17:58] <cbm> for time converting try http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ [17:58] <cbm> by [17:59] *** cbm has quit [Bye] [17:59] *** SageSparks left #lounge [] [17:59] *** SunnyElf has joined #lounge [17:59] <SunnyElf> man, is it over???? [17:59] <Aislinn> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_GB.aspx [17:59] <SunnyElf> i was sound asleep! [17:59] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [17:59] <Aislinn> that's another time converter [17:59] <Skiplives> and you caught the last minute [17:59] <Aislinn> yes, we're just ending [17:59] <SunnyElf> shoot [17:59] <SunnyElf> dang cold! [17:59] <SunnyElf> and kids! [17:59] <SunnyElf> lol [18:00] <SunnyElf> when is the transcript going to be posted? [18:00] <Aislinn> very soon! [18:00] <SunnyElf> ok. good [18:00] <Lizzieangel90> ok i'm being kicked aren't i? [18:00] <Lizzieangel90> i'm leaving i'm leaving.. lol [18:00] <Skiplives> biggrin [18:00] <Lizzieangel90> *huggles* to all [18:01] *** Trozam has joined #lounge [18:01] <SunnyElf> bye [18:01] <Aislinn> bye lizzie! [18:01] <Skiplives> Bye [18:01] <Trozam> Bye! [18:01] <SunnyElf> *pouts* [18:01] <Aislinn> awwww - next time! [18:01] <Skiplives> And good bye to all. [18:01] <Aislinn> bye skip! [18:01] <SunnyElf> i know, but i had actually listened to this one!!!! wink [18:01] <Skiplives> Sunnyelf, it's back in two days [18:01] <Skiplives> a chat in any event [18:02] <Aislinn> we're going to stick with this time for a while, so hopefully everyone will have more chance to listen first [18:02] *** Skiplives left #lounge [] [18:02] <Lizzieangel90> i like the new time... so i can be on when schools starts... next week [18:03] <Aislinn> cool [18:03] <SunnyElf> ok. i'll go and sit for the transcript tongue [18:03] <Aislinn> lol [18:03] <SunnyElf> where are they posted? |
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