The Locket, the Put-Outer and all the rubies, a connection? |
 Apr 9 2007, 08:03 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup  Posts: 41 Joined: 8:20am March 9, 2005 Location: Finland  |
I'm reading the Philosopher's Stone once again and something caught my eye on the back cover (UK, children's edition). It has a really nice picture of Dumbledore in a really silly outfit
 He is holding the Put-Outer in his hand.Now two things caught my eye. 1. The Put-Outer has a large S on it, just like the locket on the Deathly Hallows cover (adult). 2. It has rubies on it, just like all the items in the Deathly Hallows cover (children). Any ideas? Could we see the Put-Outer again in the last book? After all it was the very first magical object in the books and seeing Dumbledore using it made him look very mysterious and powerful. Wouldn't it be fitting if in the last book Harry would be the one using it? Philosopher's stone cover This post has been edited by You_wont_know_who: Apr 9 2007, 09:01 AM -------------------- "Lady Ramkin's bosom rose and fell like an empire."
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Apr 9 2007, 09:25 AM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 171 Joined: 3:28pm July 16, 2005 Location: Hogwarts, Hogwarts, hoggy warty Hogwarts... |
That's interesting, but I think its just a coincidence. They do look a lot a like, though. The artist wouldn't have known anything about the 7th book back then to know to draw the Put-Outer like that. Though it could still reappear.
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Apr 9 2007, 09:40 AM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 48 Joined: 6:19pm January 2, 2006 |
QUOTE(CindyVortex @ Apr 9 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]1173346[/snapback] That's interesting, but I think its just a coincidence. They do look a lot a like, though. The artist wouldn't have known anything about the 7th book back then to know to draw the Put-Outer like that. Though it could still reappear. -agrees- It was many years ago, and this was when people didn't realize that there was actually going to be a seventh book. And I also don't think that Slytherin would want red rubies on something of his; no matter how much wealth they symbolised, red is just too Gryffindor. Like CindyVortex said, it's just a coincidence. This post has been edited by amand1: Apr 9 2007, 09:57 AM |
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Apr 9 2007, 09:56 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 1 Joined: 9:49am April 9, 2007 |
Also, the original (first edition) childrens cover for the UK version of The Philosophers Stone had a slightly differant picture on the back shown here:
http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/album...inal%20Back.jpg The Put-Outer is absent from this (presumably a younger version of Dumbledore) so I think is less likely to have been a specific request of Jo to the artist. Interesting spot though! |
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Apr 9 2007, 10:14 AM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 51 Joined: 2:25pm March 25, 2007 Location: Wouldn't you like to know? |
I agree that it was probably a coinkydink, too. However, I think the put-outer will probably reapear. Moody was using it in the Ootp when the were going to Number 12. Sooo...
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Apr 9 2007, 10:23 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 41 Joined: 8:20am March 9, 2005 Location: Finland |
Yes I do undestand that it is most likely nothing, because the image is so old. But I think there COULD be something to it
I mean how would the artist know the significance of rubies in the books at that time if Jo didn't tell him? Also the idea that we have an object in the first book with an S and rubies and in the last book an object with an S and emeralds. I'm thinking the Put-Outer could be GG's item? Although I can't explain the S Unless it doesn't stand for Slytherin in the locket either. -------------------- "Lady Ramkin's bosom rose and fell like an empire."
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Apr 9 2007, 10:39 AM
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Rat Tonic Bottler Posts: 1,103 Joined: 8:21am March 1, 2007 Location: Wales, UK |
QUOTE(vitamin @ Apr 9 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]1173408[/snapback] I'm thinking the Put-Outer could be GG's item? Although I can't explain the S Unless it doesn't stand for Slytherin in the locket either.Good idea.. but I'm doubting it, since Dumbledore has said that the sword was the only relic of Gryffindor.. and I'd hazard that, as he owns the Put-Outer, he'd know if that too had belonged to Godric. Also, Michligsam, I think I've read that the younger wizard on the other PS cover you're talking about is actually supposed to be Quirrell.
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Apr 9 2007, 11:00 AM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 13 Joined: 2:12pm February 11, 2007 |
Didnt Moody use that wen they arrived at grimauld place after flyin harry over there? didnt he say he had borrowed it from DD?
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Apr 9 2007, 11:22 AM
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Being Chosen by a Wand at Ollivander's Posts: 2,952 Joined: 8:53am April 20, 2006 Location: Prifysgol Bangor Univeristy, Bangor, Cymru |
I thought it was really neat how Jo managed to weave the Put-Outer back in there. It had been such an interesting part of the Philosopher's Stone becuase it was just about the first peice of magic we saw. Harry had no idea what it was but us readers did. I hope it will play a part in Deathly Hallows: maybe it will be passed on to Harry like the Invisibility Cloak. That would be really cool.
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Apr 9 2007, 12:02 PM
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Rat Tonic Bottler Posts: 1,103 Joined: 8:21am March 1, 2007 Location: Wales, UK |
QUOTE(blue_dreamer @ Apr 9 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1173467[/snapback] I thought it was really neat how Jo managed to weave the Put-Outer back in there. It had been such an interesting part of the Philosopher's Stone becuase it was just about the first peice of magic we saw. Harry had no idea what it was but us readers did. I hope it will play a part in Deathly Hallows: maybe it will be passed on to Harry like the Invisibility Cloak. That would be really cool. I've often wondered *quite* how it would work.. is it kind of like a less-gruesome version of the Hand of Glory? I mean, could Dumbledore still see where he was going after he'd put all the lights out? I'd imagine he'd be ricocheting off things if everything was pitch-dark for him as well. So if the user can still see where he/she is going, I guess it could prove pretty handy if it's handed down to Harry. Either way, I think there will, like-as-not, be a "Will" scene in DH, and I think Harry will come into ownership of at least one of Dumbledore's many amazing possessions. -------------------- |
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