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Lucius Malfoy, DE, Father, Governor, Git.

rowena r View Member Profile	Nov 22 2007, 10:57 AM Post #1
Dumbledore's Personal Secretary Posts: 4,714 Joined: 10:28am December 31, 2006 Location: At a violin concert with my boss.	Lucius Malfoy makes his appearance in CoS for the first time. We see him in Borgin and Burkes dealing with the proprietor and reprimanding his son for his loose talk and sulky attitude. He tells Draco to improve his grades as well as to hide his animosity towards Harry. Do you think he is a good father to Draco, whatever his social (or anti-social) persona may be ? Then we move on to Flourish and Blotts where we see his sneering side before his bout with Arthur Weasley. Why do you think he hated Arthur Weasley so much ? Because of the raids conducted on his house ? Because of his purebloods-must-act-in-a-particular-manner attitude ? Because of the natural antipathy of DEs towards DD's people ? Or a bit of all that plus something else ? He then slips the infamous diary into Ginny's book. We do know that he planned to kill two birds with one stone by embarassing Mr.Weasley and getting rid of an incriminating item at the same time. Here again, we see evidence of a great dislike of Mr.Weasley. A DE planting Lord Voldemort's things on someone without his express permission seems to argue undue anger and loathing. Why did he pick Ginny Weasley ? Was it just opportunism, or did Lucius particularly target Ginny for some reason ? He also comes to Hagrid's house with a few choice insults and the suspension order removing DD from Hogwarts. Wasn't he going against the very piece of advice he gave his son by doing that ? Surely, being instrumental in removing DD was not any wiser than Draco crossing Harry ? Is it possible that Lucius under-estimated DD - even though he was the only one Voldemort was ever wary of ? Much later, we see him fuming at DD's return to the school. Lucius clearly didn't expect the happy ending at Hogwarts, but he recovered quickly and sought to take out some of his frustration by kicking Dobby. But he didn't have the use of that punching bag too long either. Harry tricks him into freeing Dobby upon which he leaves muttering threats of hideous consequences. Nothing went right for poor Lucius. All one can say is that he escaped for lack of proof of his skuldudgery. Do you think he could have planned the whole thing for a better outcome ? Or did he do his best, but was beaten by sheer grit and goodness ? --------------------

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Granjo Granger View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 06:11 PM Post #2
Official Grandmother at the Lily and Stag Inn Posts: 2,728 Joined: 4:33pm February 27, 2007 Location: Having tea with Minerva McGonagall at Hogwarts	Lucius Malfoy knew that the diary had been given to him by LV for safe keeping until such time as LV himself would want to use it at Hogwarts. Lucius did not know what the diary was all about and should have obeyed his master. If he underestimated anyone it was LV and Dobby. He unnecessarily endangered a Horcrux, and he set his own house elf on a mission to protect Harry, not that he was aware of this fact. He appears to have wanted to cause malicious mischief through Ginny. Arthur Weasley represented everything that Lucius was not. A pure blood wizard with high moral standards would have been a great threat to someone as power hungry as Lucius was. There had been no sign of LV for 11 years now. He probably thought that LV was gone for good, and that he might as well do something with the diary to cause trouble at Hogwarts and target the Weasley's only daughter and youngest child. -------------------- Sorting begins soon for HBP! Follow the Lily and Stag on twitter, too!

momwitch View Member Profile	Nov 26 2007, 06:21 AM Post #3
Doctor Filibuster's Junior Assistant Posts: 1,963 Joined: 8:57am March 12, 2005 Location: at Home or somewhere in between	Perhaps the diary itself told Lucius to slip it into one of the Weasley's book piles. Lucius would undoubtedly have been "subject" to its wishes, and Riddle would have needed an unsuspecting pureblood to open the Chamber of Secrets - as the CoS was a Salazar Slytherin creation which would need a certain type of "key" to trigger the "lock". The key most probably wasn't a Malfoy directly, because Voldemort wouldn't have wanted to share any "credit" with one of his followers for opening the Chamber, it might have caused problems in his "ranks" that there was a certain favoritism going on. By giving the diary to Ginny and influencing her to open the Chamber, is also a slap in the face to a pair of his biggest "pureblood traitor" opponents (in Molly and Arthur), in that Ginny very nearly became the "mother" to Voldemort's rebirth, and would have died in the process (just like his real mother) without Harry's intervention. -------------------- Avatar made with Poser 6 and Photoshop Elements

Granjo Granger View Member Profile	Nov 26 2007, 07:49 PM Post #4
Official Grandmother at the Lily and Stag Inn Posts: 2,728 Joined: 4:33pm February 27, 2007 Location: Having tea with Minerva McGonagall at Hogwarts	The only problem with momwitch's theory is the fact that Malfoy acted on his own when he put the diary in Ginny;s cauldron. He did not know that it was a Horcrux. He had been told to keep it safe for LV. He did not do that. -------------------- Sorting begins soon for HBP! Follow the Lily and Stag on twitter, too!

momwitch View Member Profile	Nov 26 2007, 08:59 PM Post #5
Doctor Filibuster's Junior Assistant Posts: 1,963 Joined: 8:57am March 12, 2005 Location: at Home or somewhere in between	He didn't know it was a Horcrux, and he might have thought that he was doing it on his own volition, but that would be Voldemort's purpose of putting it in Malfoy's care in the first place. We see later on in the Series how the horcruxes can influence those who are in contact with them, voluntarily or involuntarily. The diary was the memory of the adolescent Tom M. Riddle, and when the conditions presented itself, the memory would desire to relive itself. It would seem that as the first horcrux, it was also the most "pure" of the horcruxes with all the undiluted rage, pent up anger and delusions of grandeur that would become Lord Voldemort. All of these things were preserved in that diary, which was just waiting for the right time to rebirth itself. The power needed to channel those memories into a new reality was recognized by the diary in Ginny (who was later revealed to be a powerful witch in her own right). A virginal character is oftentimes the catalyst to great power (eg. virgins sacrificed to dragons): if her innocence was corrupted and manipulated by the diary, a "worthy" sacrifice is created which can accomplish "great" things. The adolescent confusion and turmoil that helped create the horcrux itself (through Moaning Myrtle's death) would be mirrored to release and reverse what was contained in the diary and give it "new life" throughh Ginny's death...bringing Voldemort back into himself. This post has been edited by momwitch: Nov 26 2007, 09:00 PM -------------------- Avatar made with Poser 6 and Photoshop Elements

Floo Commuter View Member Profile	Nov 28 2007, 06:11 AM Post #6
Rat Tonic Bottler Posts: 1,126 Joined: 11:39pm June 30, 2007 Location: The Burrow, swapping knitting patterns with Molly	Malfoy probably suspected that releasing the book into Hogwarts could possibly cause some mayhem. He would not have had any idea what would happen, but once the word got out that the Chamber had been reopened I am sure that Draco would have informed him and he would have been proud of his achievements. Lucius Malfoy is an absolute git who only cares about himself. He has no respect for authority and thinks that he is above the law. He was not as well respected among the dark wizards as he thought he was. That was proven when he left Borgin and Burke's and Borgin showed his mistrust. Lucius Malfoy showed his true colours as the series continued. He was not the born leader that he thought he was. He was just a follower like the majority of them. The idea that he was just like so many others must have really cut to the bone. -------------------- Maroon to the Bone Four years in a row, what champions. Hugs to Up To No Good for my cute avatar

Oryx View Member Profile	Nov 29 2007, 08:05 PM Post #7
Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007	QUOTE Do you think he could have planned the whole thing for a better outcome ? I think Lucius' ultimate goal was to replace Dumbledore with someone who supported pureblood politics. I wonder if he had anyone specific in mind.

fidelia View Member Profile	Nov 29 2007, 08:44 PM Post #8
Ollivander's Apprentice Posts: 1,994 Joined: 7:39pm March 11, 2007 Location: wandering in the Forbidden Forest, listening for the Phoenix song	QUOTE(Oryx @ Nov 29 2007, 08:05 PM) QUOTE Do you think he could have planned the whole thing for a better outcome ? I think Lucius' ultimate goal was to replace Dumbledore with someone who supported pureblood politics. I wonder if he had anyone specific in mind. I rather thought that Umbridge fit the bill quite well. As Lucius had a strong hand in the MoM, perhaps he was responsible for the machinations which led to her eventual placement at Hogwarts. -------------------- Sorting begins soon for HBP! Follow the Lily and Stag on twitter, too! thanks, twiddlethosedials, for the siggy

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