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The Marauder's Map and an unsigned permission note, Escaping trouble or justice?
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post Jul 16 2008, 04:19 PM
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THE MARAUDERS MAP AND THE PERMISSION NOTE

If the first book in the Harry Potter series featuring the seven tasks to reach the Philosopher's Stone, is about people's deepest desires, and COS, featuring Gilderoy Lockhart's autobiographical seven textbooks about his adventures, is about friendship and its misuse, then how would the number seven feature in POA? The third book in the series starts with a television news item discusses briefly the escape of a dangerous criminal, Sirius Black. Sirius Black, of course, is the Prisoner of Azkaban of the third book's title. But after Aunt Marge's disastrous visit to the Dursleys, Sirius Black will scarcely be the only one who will have an urge to escape prison-like conditions .

How many people or characters escape punishment throughout POA altogether, how often, who were they, and what did they do to deserve it? Try the poll and choose for yourself. You may pick more than one instance in each section

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Harry received a permission note to visit Hogsmeade, an authorised escape from the routine of Hogwarts enjoyed by older students, providing the note is signed by a parent or legal guardian. But after Aunt Marge rudely insults Harry's parents, he leaves 4 Privet Drive without succeeding in getting Uncle Vernon' signature and subsequently finds it impossible that anyone else would rectify the omission.

How important was the unsigned permission note to how Harry would spend the rest of the year in POA?
Would you consider that Harry's unsigned permission note, stopping him going to Hogsmeade with the rest of his classmates, was punishment enough for blowing up Aunt Marge?
Why did Fudge think that Harry wouldn't be punished for 'a little thing like blowing up one's aunt'?

Fred and George give Harry the Marauder's Map as an early Christmas present, perhaps as a consolation for being imprisoned at Hogwarts whilst others freely tasted the delights of Hogsmeade. This Map, which will continue to play an enormous part in the series, facilitated many of Fred and George's misdeeds, but it was compiled by an earlier bunch of mischief makers, who went by the nicknames of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. Moony, the boyhood nickname of Remus Lupin, the current DADA teacher, vouched that the map never lied, unlike Tom Riddle's diary or Gilderoy Lockhart's books. Not only did the Marauder's Map show the layout of Hogwarts but also what people were moving around in it. It also showed seven passages from Hogwarts to Hogsmeade only a couple of which could be used to leave Hogwarts secretly and securely.

Why did Fred and George not give the Marauder's Map to Ron, their younger brother?
Why do you think that one of the passages Fred and George said they used frequently the previous year was now blocked?
How complete was the Marauder's Map's description of Hogwarts? Were there any rooms ever left off it?
Why did Fred and George, who claimed they knew everything about the Marauder's Map never notice previously that Scabbers always appeared on the map as Peter Pettigrew? This was a pet rat who belonged first to Percy then to Ron.
What do you think of the way the Marauder's Map insulted Snape?

These questions are only to start discussion, and you may have other questions to ask. Such as this intriguing question: How many times did Scabbers escape Crookshanks and other would-be captors in POA?


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post Aug 22 2008, 07:11 PM
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Why did Fred and George not give the Marauder's Map to Ron, their younger brother?


They gave Harry the map because they saw that he had a need/use for it. They didn't give it to him because they felt he was their successor, only because they saw an opening to hand it over, so he could go to Hogsmeade. Ron never really had a need for it in the same way.

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The Chamber of Secrets was definitely not on it. I couldn't imagine that James and Sirius and co. would find the room, but then never tell anyone about it and just write it on the map. Furthermore, in CoS, Fred and George should've seen Ginny in there once she was gone and alerted the teachers.

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Why did Fred and George, who claimed they knew everything about the Marauder's Map never notice previously that Scabbers always appeared on the map as Peter Pettigrew? This was a pet rat who belonged first to Percy then to Ron.


We don't know if they are familiar with the name Peter Pettigrew, they mayhave simple ignored it. I'm sure many of us know well-known murder stories but don't remember the exact details, so it didn't stand out particularly when browsing over the huge sprawling map with lots of people walking around the grounds. I also doubt they ever closely watched Ron or paid much attention to their family, as they used the map primarily for mischief.

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post Aug 25 2008, 05:22 PM
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How complete was the Marauder's Map's description of Hogwarts? Were there any rooms ever left off it?


The Chamber of Secrets was definitely not on it. I couldn't imagine that James and Sirius and co. would find the room, but then never tell anyone about it and just write it on the map. Furthermore, in CoS, Fred and George should've seen Ginny in there once she was gone and alerted the teachers.


Do you know you are right? I thought of the Room of Requirement first, but the Chamber of Secrets couldn't have been on it either. Otherwise Fred and George would have been able to pick up where Ginny was the previous year.


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Why did Fred and George, who claimed they knew everything about the Marauder's Map never notice previously that Scabbers always appeared on the map as Peter Pettigrew? This was a pet rat who belonged first to Percy then to Ron.


We don't know if they are familiar with the name Peter Pettigrew, they mayhave simple ignored it. I'm sure many of us know well-known murder stories but don't remember the exact details, so it didn't stand out particularly when browsing over the huge sprawling map with lots of people walking around the grounds. I also doubt they ever closely watched Ron or paid much attention to their family, as they used the map primarily for mischief.


But they would have avoided law-abiding Percy, especially when he became prefect, not wanting to get caught out in their acts of mischief. And they would have used the map for this. And so they did notice the collapse of one of their passages the previous year. This was when Ron, Harry and Ginny went to the Chamber of Secrets so that passage could have passed near the Chamber of secrets passage.


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But they would have avoided law-abiding Percy, especially when he became prefect, not wanting to get caught out in their acts of mischief. And they would have used the map for this. And so they did notice the collapse of one of their passages the previous year. This was when Ron, Harry and Ginny went to the Chamber of Secrets so that passage could have passed near the Chamber of secrets passage.


No they needn't have avoided Percy at all. He didn't become a prefect until both Harry and Ron started at Hogwarts. Percy got Hermes as a present for becoming prefect and Scabbers was passed down to Ron along with Charlie's second-hand wand and Bill's second-hand robes. Two years later on Fred and George gave Harry the Marauder's map. They needn't have avoided Ron either since they hardly moved in the same social circles.
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