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 Nov 4 2009, 12:01 AM
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Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 25 Joined: 1:32am October 2, 2009  |
QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 4 2009, 10:42 AM)  Jo touches on this subject on her website: QUOTE Section: F.A.Q. Having read all seven books, I'm really not quite sure what she meant by that answer. But she seems to imply that somehow they could have merged into a stronger single person.In 'Chamber of Secrets', what would have happened if Ginny had died and Tom Riddle had escaped the diary? I can't answer that fully until all seven books are finished, but it would have strengthened the present-day Voldemort considerably. This answer is certainly vague, considering how weakened Voldemort-in-Albania is in CoS, many things can "strengthen" him. I am curious as to the possible physical appearance of the combination of two soul pieces, if it is possible, though. I've seen ideas (in fanfictions, mostly) that have Voldemort in his 16-year-old appearance and in his 30s/40s (balancing the 16-year-old soul and 60-something-year-old soul). I haven't seen Voldemort still having his snake face, though, probably because fangirls like handsome bad boys. *cough* (But I'm swaying off here...) Another point of interest is how the combination can be done. How is it different from merging back the soul pieces together? The only way known to merging soul pieces back together is to feel remorse, but it is so excruxiatingly painful that it's better to die. Voldemort surely won't feel any remorse, so he probably has to do it with another way. But does it mean that even if Albania-Riddle and diary-Riddle manage to get into one single body, the soul is still broken in two pieces? Yet how can a soul be broken in one single body? It's starting to be confusing... Any thought? |
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Nov 4 2009, 01:40 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer  Posts: 894 Joined: 1:35pm February 27, 2008 Location: In the library, snuggling with Percy   |
QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 3 2009, 09:42 PM) Jo touches on this subject on her website: QUOTE Section: F.A.Q. Having read all seven books, I'm really not quite sure what she meant by that answer. But she seems to imply that somehow they could have merged into a stronger single person.In 'Chamber of Secrets', what would have happened if Ginny had died and Tom Riddle had escaped the diary? I can’t answer that fully until all seven books are finished, but it would have strengthened the present-day Voldemort considerably. I always thought that if Riddle had succeeded in sapping Ginny's whole life-force then his 16-year-old self would become solid, a person again. If so, then Voldemort would have been restored to his body a full two years earlier than he actually was. Not only that, but his 16-year-old body was in much better shape than the body he gets back in GoF. At that point, it hadn't been ravaged by Dark Magic, so I would say that by book 7, Voldemort would definitely have been much stronger. This post has been edited by Bookworm_Weasley: Nov 4 2009, 01:42 PM -------------------- "Why do you think they're after us, because we're so awesome? I think it's because we're so awesome!" **** "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr Malfoy's long campaign to have me removed from my post as Headmaster of Hogwarts, and of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favourite Death Eater."- Albus Dumbledore |
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Nov 4 2009, 05:23 PM
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Doctor Filibuster's Junior Assistant Posts: 1,977 Joined: 5:11pm May 4, 2007 Location: Texas |
QUOTE(Bookworm_Weasley @ Nov 4 2009, 02:40 PM) I always thought that if Riddle had succeeded in sapping Ginny's whole life-force then his 16-year-old self would become solid, a person again. If so, then Voldemort would have been restored to his body a full two years earlier than he actually was. Not only that, but his 16-year-old body was in much better shape than the body he gets back in GoF. At that point, it hadn't been ravaged by Dark Magic, so I would say that by book 7, Voldemort would definitely have been much stronger. Yes, Voldemort would have been much stronger physically as the 16 year old Riddle. But he would not have had all the knowledge and experiences that Voldemort gained during his life from 16 until his "death" at Godric's Hollow. Somehow he would have to merge with the spectral Voldemort to have both physical and magical strength and be greater than he would be otherwise.
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Nov 6 2009, 05:55 PM
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Personal Secretary to The Minister of Magic  Posts: 9,192 Joined: 4:57am January 28, 2005 Location: near Muggleswick, UK |
QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 4 2009, 02:42 AM) Jo touches on this subject on her website: The way I read it the important revelation is that the diary was a horcrux. If Tom escapes the diary you not only have two Voldemorts to fight, one of which would be a horcrux and therefore hard to destroy. I don't think Diary Riddle and Voldemort could merge back into one person, because it takes remorse to undo the splitting of a soul, but Diary Riddle would much more effective at getting a new body for Voldemort than either Wormtail or Quirrell, and Voldemort's soul could possess Diary Riddle until then.
QUOTE Section: F.A.Q. Having read all seven books, I'm really not quite sure what she meant by that answer. But she seems to imply that somehow they could have merged into a stronger single person.In 'Chamber of Secrets', what would have happened if Ginny had died and Tom Riddle had escaped the diary? I can’t answer that fully until all seven books are finished, but it would have strengthened the present-day Voldemort considerably. --------------------  W.L.Y.J. We love you Jo |
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Nov 6 2009, 06:45 PM
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Doctor Filibuster's Junior Assistant Posts: 1,977 Joined: 5:11pm May 4, 2007 Location: Texas |
QUOTE(roonwit @ Nov 6 2009, 06:55 PM) The way I read it the important revelation is that the diary was a horcrux. If Tom escapes the diary you not only have two Voldemorts to fight, one of which would be a horcrux and therefore hard to destroy. First off, she says that she can't give the full answer until after all seven books were complete. Since the revelation that the dairy was a horcrux was in book six, I don't see how that could be what she meant. Also, I can't figure out why you would say that a horcrux was harder to destroy than a person. It's the body you kill, not the soul. So it wouldn't be more difficult to kill the body that contained the horcrux. And finally, she says that it would strengthen the present day Voldemort. I don't see how having a duplicate would strengthen the present day Voldemort.QUOTE(roonwit @ Nov 6 2009, 06:55 PM) I don't think Diary Riddle and Voldemort could merge back into one person, because it takes remorse to undo the splitting of a soul It never occurred to me that the two souls would merge, so no remorse is necessary. I expected that they would occupy the same body. Don't ask me how, Jo didn't explain it.
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