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post Jul 4 2005, 09:36 AM
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Welcome to the Obscurus Thread for Idea generation, Questions, and Concerns.  This is an 'upgrade,' or a more official version of the previous Nick's Idea Generating Thread.  

To start off, here is a short description of Obscurus:
Obscurus is the place for academic analysis of the HP books, discussions of meaning, symbolism, and deeper themes in the HP series.  As opposed to the other forums in Flourish and Blotts, Obscurus discussions tend to look at HP from the outside, as the literary works they are.

If you are wondering about something, this is a place you can post and ask the moderators of this forum what they think.  Some of the ideas and questions you can bring up here are:
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[*]Is this topic permissible under the rules?
[*]Where would I put a thread about this?
[*]Does this topic already exist?
[*]I saw this thread and now I cannot find it, do you know where it is?
[*]I would really like to see a poll in Obscurus about...
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post Aug 29 2005, 09:18 PM
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I have split of a few posts regarding an idea by Magos for a new thread about Quidditch, and made a new thread with them here.  
This is very interesting - I've always thought of Quidditch as just sports, but now I'm beginning to think it might have symbolic value as well.  Definitely worth checking out!  

And repurr - there are no dumb questions.  Hmmm...  I'm not quite sure where you want to go with this topic, but I think this would be Princely Nook material.  :reporter:  There are many many threads about the prophecy, though I haven't found any thread dedicated to why Trelawney said Dark Lord specifically.  Here is a list of threads I found by using the search function to search on "prophecy" in the Princely Nook, Unfogging the Future, Great Wizarding Events, and History of Magic.  Please be aware that the last two are still non-spoiler.  The search function can be really usefull in these situations.  

However, if you find that none of these threads are what you are looking for, I suggest that you start a new thread about it.  The Princely Nook is probably the best place, at least if you are interested in speculating, or Unfogging the Future, if you have some ideas about what this might mean for the future of the series.  

I hope that helps.  :)  Feel free to ask more questions if you have them.


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post Aug 31 2005, 01:57 PM
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Right, how about The Treatment Of Death In The Series? For discussion of:
- the way JKR writes about death
- her opinion of death
- the fact that they are, essentially, children's books, and how suitable the deaths in the books are for children.- James & Lily, Cedric, Sirius, Dumbledore: similarities, differences?
- Sacrifice - "THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE DIED, AS WE WOULD HAVE DONE FOR YOU!" Does she believe that you should be prepared to die for your friends? SHOULD you be prepared to die for your friends?
- Comparisons with other perceptions of death - Shakespearean, Biblical.

And anything else generally about Death In The Books. The JKR's Treatment of Relationships thread is the Shipping Thread's more objective and less frenzied cousin. This would have a similar difference from the Who's Gonna Die In Books Seven and Oh My God I So Can't Believe Dumbledore's Dead approach. I searched "death", it came up with A LOT of results, I searched "treatment of death" and "discussion of death" and it came up with nothing relevant, but maybe I missed something.
Is there enough good material in here for a thread? I'd like some opinions.


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post Aug 31 2005, 03:44 PM
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I thought I remembered a discussion thread about death in this forum, and here it is:

Link to thread about JKR's treatment of death

Nosey, if you want to fire it up again, last I looked it was languishing on Page 3 of the thread topics.


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post Sep 2 2005, 01:12 PM
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Tut, seems great minds think alike. I don't think I'll revive it, it seems to have rounded off nicely.


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I just wanna ask two questions:

1. Would it be appropriate to put here, in Obscurus Books, a topic like "Why do you think people really hate HP?"

2. Would such topic be appropriate at all?


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I would really like to see a poll on "Is Dumbledore really dead"
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post Sep 8 2005, 12:36 PM
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Sorry for being so slow in responding to your questions.  

Feel free to revive any of the 'death threads' we have had here in Obscurus.  The theme is very interesting, and I think HBP adds a lot of material for us to discuss.  

Yes, a topic about why people hate HBP is appropriate at the Leaky Lounge, and the best place for it would be Obscurus (unless you want to talk about it from an angle I'm unfamiliar with).  We have had one thread like this in the past: Do you think Rowling encourages Witchcraft?  However, if you are interested in reviving this thread, or in starting a new one (if this isn't the approach you are interested in), I would like to give some advice along the way.  I think it is interesting to explore why people object (some very strongly) to the HP books.  As part of this we may also want to figure out why and how we disagree (being at LL, most people posting will probably be in this category), and explain the faults of their arguments.  

However I would really appreciate it (as I am sure would everyone else) if the conversation about why people don't like HP did not turn into a thread bashing the people who don't like Harry Potter and their beliefs, and refrained from making generalizations about them or the groups to which they belong.  All members are of course encouraged to express their opinion freely and politely (which means that it is absolutely fine to disagree with other people), but belitteling people and/or their beliefs is not ok.  Rule number 1: BE NICE extends to everyone, not only Leaky Lounge members or people with whom we agree.  

Please don't let this (rather long... I got carried away) reminder discourage you from approaching this topic - it is a very interesting one.  :)  

And lastly - gidgx.  That is a very interesting poll suggestion.  However, it would be more appropriate in e.g. the Princely Nook or Unfogging the future (especially since we cannot yet pin a thread like that all over the board).  I suggest you make this suggestion in the Poll thread in the Room of Requirement.  If you have ideas for the possible answers you would like to see, feel free to come with suggestions for those as well.


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post Sep 10 2005, 05:48 AM
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I was wondering why Professor Sinistra is called Professor Sinistra... it's Italian for left, and I was wondering what the Astronomy teacher has to do with left? Or sinister? I don't know if it's important enough to warrant its own topic.


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post Sep 11 2005, 12:00 AM
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Hi Matt
We have a name thread here somewhere in Obscurus, what's in a name where you could bring it up.  Using the search function I couldn't find any threads on Sinistra Vector, and that surprised me.  So you could go into the Princely Nook, Great Wizarding Events, or Unfogging the future and start a thread about Sinistra Vector there, if you want, depending on what kind of angle you are interested in taking (HBP, future).  Unless you know more than me, I don't think we know enough about her to warrant a literary / theme discussion of her here in Obscurus.  

I hope this helps!


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Hi!  I am one of those who joined the forums b/c I needed to share my anguish after HBP with people who UNDERSTAND!  My question may already have been answered, but it has bothered me for a couple of books now.  We know that Harry having Lily's eyes is somehow significant ( many theories)!  One thing I haven't seen/heard mentioned is the fact that Harry wears glasses. The only other student mentioned in either books or movies that wears glasses is Moaning Myrtle.  It could be that JKR puthim in glasses just to make him a little more endearing to us.  But the fact that he has them shows that at some point, somehow, the Dursleys actually cared enough to get the glasses for him.  I wonder does this tie in with the idea that JKR says there is 'more to Petunia'?

If this is not the right place for this question, could you tell me where to go? Thanks!!!


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