P3 Chat Transcript 10/1/06, The Department of Mysteries in book 7 |
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Today's chat moderators were: Aislinn, Expelliarmas, futureweasley, Poet and Theoriser.
[15:01] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [15:01] *** adamgryff has joined #lounge [15:01] <futureweasley> hi guys [15:01] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [15:01] <Gryffinclaw> Hi [15:01] <adamgryff> hi everyone! [15:02] <Aislinn> good afternoon! [15:02] <futureweasley> how are you guys doing? [15:02] <adamgryff> great! [15:02] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [15:02] *** Books_4_eva has joined #lounge [15:02] <Gryffinclaw> i'm ok thanks future how are you? [15:02] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [15:02] <Books_4_eva> hi [15:02] <nympheart> hi guys [15:02] <DumbleDebbie> hiya smile [15:02] <Gryffinclaw> Hi books, Nymp,DD [15:03] <DumbleDebbie> who's ready to give Future a hard time? grin [15:03] <nympheart> yay! [15:03] <Gryffinclaw> waht on? [15:03] <Gryffinclaw> *What* [15:03] <DumbleDebbie> I'm just teasing. On the questions for today [15:03] <Gryffinclaw> ahhhh [15:03] <Aislinn> now, why would we want to torture FW????? [15:04] <Books_4_eva> hehe [15:04] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:04] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:04] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:04] <nympheart> we could torment you... [15:04] <DumbleDebbie> me, never! angel_not [15:04] <JaneMarple9> test smile [15:04] <fawkes28> hello smile [15:04] <Gryffinclaw> Hi fawkes, Jane, hpfreak [15:04] <nympheart> hi [15:04] <DumbleDebbie> hello peeps [15:04] <JaneMarple9> Hi everybody biggrin [15:04] <Books_4_eva> he all [15:04] <adamgryff> hi fawkes,Jane, harryfreak [15:04] <harryfreak359> Finally, I had the hardest time getting in here [15:04] <fawkes28> me too [15:04] <JaneMarple9> And me HF [15:04] <DumbleDebbie> me too [15:04] <futureweasley> I love you guys...you can give me a hard time almost anytime you'd like [15:04] <harryfreak359> omg [15:04] <fawkes28> oh and we do smile [15:04] <futureweasley> yes, I know this [15:04] <futureweasley> lol [15:05] <DumbleDebbie> yay [15:05] <Gryffinclaw> lol [15:05] <DumbleDebbie> bwahahaha [15:05] <harryfreak359> brb,,,I am being attacked by a monster mosquito [15:05] <nympheart> lol [15:05] <fawkes28> lol [15:05] <adamgryff> lol [15:05] <DumbleDebbie> run HF! [15:05] <JaneMarple9> It's so much fun to discuss Harry Potter in here smile [15:05] <Gryffinclaw> lol [15:05] <fawkes28> i'm soooo excited about this topic!! [15:05] <Gryffinclaw> Stun it HPfreak [15:05] <Books_4_eva> a good one [15:05] <futureweasley> me too! [15:05] <DumbleDebbie> yep, it's a good one Fawkes [15:05] <harryfreak359> lol [15:05] <adamgryff> so am I fawkes [15:05] <harryfreak359> it's gone [15:05] <Gryffinclaw> good [15:05] <fawkes28> glad you're ok, hf [15:05] <fawkes28> lol [15:05] <JaneMarple9> And me...it's where Arthur Weasly works isn't it? [15:06] <harryfreak359> yes I am very excited about this chat [15:06] <Gryffinclaw> no [15:06] <DumbleDebbie> nope [15:06] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [15:06] *** Inkreader13 has joined #lounge [15:06] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [20:05] <Evreka> Hi! [20:05] <futureweasley> hi everyone!! [20:05] <DumbleDebbie> he works for the miistry but not in the dept of mysteries [20:06] <Gryffinclaw> It's where the hall of prophcys are and the veil [20:06] <Inkreader13> hello [20:06] <Aislinn> hi folks! [20:06] <DumbleDebbie> the 'Unspeakables' work there [20:06] <adamgryff> hi everyone! [20:06] <fawkes28> hello everka, inreader, and theoriser! [20:06] <Gryffinclaw> hi Evreka, Inky and theoriserr [20:06] <DumbleDebbie> hi Evreka!!! [20:06] <DumbleDebbie> yay! [20:06] <JaneMarple9> right got it where the prophecies are [20:06] <Theoriser> hi everyone! [20:06] <Gryffinclaw> yeah and where Sirius dies [20:06] <Books_4_eva> and the love room [20:06] <Evreka> Finally in the right end of the chat... LOL [20:06] <harryfreak359> hello all! [20:06] <JaneMarple9> Hi theoriser [20:06] <Gryffinclaw> and where the time-turners live [20:06] <harryfreak359> lol [20:06] <Inkreader13> yay for the chat! [20:06] <nympheart> lived, they're gone [20:06] <Books_4_eva> time turners where distroyed [20:06] <Gryffinclaw> oh sorry [20:06] <fawkes28> it would be a great place to visit [20:07] <DumbleDebbie> yeha, mut more fun to be had when you long in at the beginning [20:07] <Gryffinclaw> yeah I forgot [20:07] <harryfreak359> yes it would [20:07] <JaneMarple9> should be good then! [20:07] <futureweasley> I think I snuck in a question about time turners [20:07] <Evreka> lOL [20:07] <futureweasley> hold on...I promise we'll get there [20:07] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [20:07] *** break4nobody has joined #lounge [20:07] <DumbleDebbie> *log in [20:07] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah DoM would be a great place to visit you just have to watch out for any myserious veils and certain female DE [20:07] <Expelliarmas> hello, my peeps; ready for today's interesting chat? [20:07] <JaneMarple9> (((((everybody)))) before we start smile [20:07] <DumbleDebbie> ugh, I can't type worth beans some days [20:08] <fawkes28> yes smile [20:08] <DumbleDebbie> (((Jane))) [20:08] <Gryffinclaw> ((((Whats up))))) [20:08] <JaneMarple9> Looking forward to ir Expel! [20:08] <harryfreak359> me either Debbie [20:08] <futureweasley> ( ( what is with the brackets? ) ) [20:08] <JaneMarple9> Got book 5 and 6 at hand for reference smile [20:08] <Gryffinclaw> Good [20:09] <DumbleDebbie> that's an IM hug, the brackets [20:09] <Evreka> Oooh should we? [20:09] <Gryffinclaw> I kinda know the scenes anyway [20:09] <fawkes28> oh [20:09] <JaneMarple9> that's my "internet hug" biggrin [20:09] <DumbleDebbie> from way, way back (I'm dating myself ;) ) [20:09] <futureweasley> I like it!! [20:09] <Books_4_eva> lol [20:09] <adamgryff> lol [20:09] <Expelliarmas> more hugs at the CB? can't be bad. [20:09] <DumbleDebbie> gooness, yeah, that's an old one, 10 year or so [20:09] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie [20:09] * futureweasley thinks parenthesis are like warm fuzzies [20:09] <Evreka> What is? [20:09] <fawkes28> hehe [20:09] <nympheart> it's so old, I never have seen it [20:10] <DumbleDebbie> old one Evreka? the parentheses for a virtual hug [20:10] <Evreka> Oh, thanks [20:10] <futureweasley> now now...I'm old...be careful! LOL [20:10] <DumbleDebbie> lol nymph, way to make me feel old [20:10] <DumbleDebbie> time for theh Clairol [20:10] <fawkes28> oh stop, fw [20:10] <fawkes28> lol [20:10] *** HedwigJune has joined #lounge [20:10] <JaneMarple9> Hi Hedwig [20:10] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [20:10] <Evreka> So where is the department hiding? [20:11] <HedwigJune> Hi molly [20:11] *** mollywobbles23 has quit [Bye] [20:11] <JaneMarple9> Hi Mollywobbles smile [20:11] <futureweasley> we will start in about 5 minutes [20:11] <Aislinn> hey hedwig [20:11] <HedwigJune> um, bye [20:11] <fawkes28> hello! [20:11] <Evreka> Are we in an invisible room? J/K [20:11] <harryfreak359> yay! [20:11] <DumbleDebbie> I thnk the Dept. is part of the Minsitry building [20:11] <HedwigJune> hola! [20:11] <DumbleDebbie> oh lol [20:11] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [20:11] <mollywobbles23> hi! [20:11] <HedwigJune> hi, again [20:11] <futureweasley> hi mollywobbles [20:11] <Books_4_eva> hi [20:11] <Evreka> I know... I was just kidding. Thanks futeure [20:11] <sdcurtis> hello [20:12] <Evreka> *future [20:12] <Evreka> hi [20:12] * futureweasley winks at Evreka [20:12] <HedwigJune> how is everyone? [20:12] <fawkes28> great! [20:12] <Books_4_eva> goooooood [20:12] <futureweasley> doing great! [20:12] <nympheart> good [20:12] <sdcurtis> good [20:12] <mollywobbles23> groovy [20:12] <JaneMarple9> looks as if it's going to be busy today smile I'm good [20:12] <DumbleDebbie> and Future, what's this about being old? you're a spring chicken girl! [20:12] <futureweasley> so excited about today's chat! [20:12] <adamgryff> great! [20:12] <Evreka> fine [20:12] <Inkreader13> I'm great. I'm trying to watch all the Harry Potter movies. how are you? [20:12] <HedwigJune> all right!! Yeah!! YEAH!!! [20:12] <Books_4_eva> hehe [20:12] <nympheart> lol, June [20:12] <futureweasley> DumbleDebbie...age is a state of mind...and I feel O-L-D [20:13] <Evreka> finally caught a text chat in the right end... LOL [20:13] <Books_4_eva> aw [20:13] <HedwigJune> not when you're a Potter fan [20:13] <DumbleDebbie> oh dear! well this chat will be the spring of eternal youth for you then [20:13] <futureweasley> definitely past my prime...tehehe [20:13] <mollywobbles23> hehe [20:13] *** CestlaVie has joined #lounge [20:13] <Aislinn> you did, evreka - welcome! [20:13] <break4nobody> futureweasley you are sooo not old smile [20:13] <HedwigJune> hi!!! [20:13] <JaneMarple9> We all do sometimes future smile Yes, Harry Potter is for any age! [20:13] <futureweasley> oh, my best friend in the real world is here! [20:13] <DumbleDebbie> this'll be fun Evreka! I miss bouncing ideas off you in our old reading gruop [20:13] <futureweasley> YAY! [20:13] <futureweasley> hi break4nobody!! [20:14] <break4nobody> I am.... I am in your world [20:14] * futureweasley hugs break4nobody [20:14] <Evreka> That goes for me too, the other way around ((DumbleDebbie)) [20:14] <futureweasley> Aislinn...this is the girl that made me sing our "filk" at Karaoke [20:14] <break4nobody> Ha ha ha [20:14] <DumbleDebbie> hahaha [20:14] <break4nobody> I did [20:14] <HedwigJune> hahaha [20:14] <fawkes28> lol [20:14] <harryfreak359> lol [20:14] *** madamnarcissamalfoy has joined #lounge [20:14] <mollywobbles23> lol [20:14] <DumbleDebbie> way to go B4N [20:14] <HedwigJune> hi, narcissa! [20:14] <mollywobbles23> hi, madam! [20:14] <harryfreak359> good job break4nobody [20:14] <fawkes28> you should have taped it! [20:15] <harryfreak359> yeah [20:15] <nympheart> I'd like to see it [20:15] <break4nobody> She great!!! [20:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hi guys! [20:15] <JaneMarple9> Hi Madamnarcissa [20:15] <harryfreak359> that'd have been awesome [20:15] <fawkes28> yes [20:15] <futureweasley> don't worry...if it doesn't make Pottercast, I will send you guys the link for where it is on the internet [20:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> the chats about to start??? [20:15] <DumbleDebbie> :grin: [20:15] <futureweasley> yes, we're almost there [20:15] <harryfreak359> definitely Future! [20:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> awesome! [20:15] <Books_4_eva> yay [20:15] <harryfreak359> I want to hear it [20:15] <adamgryff> good [20:15] <Evreka> :) [20:15] <fawkes28> i hope it does [20:16] <HedwigJune> and put it on YouTube [20:16] *** HedwigJune has quit [Bye] [20:16] <Inkreader13> I less then 3 filks [20:16] <nympheart> I think you should send the link anyway [20:16] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, good luck with the filk thing [20:16] *** HedwigJune has joined #lounge [20:16] <Books_4_eva> yep definatly youtube [20:16] <madamnarcissamalfoy> i might not be good, havent read books 2-3 in a while [20:16] <futureweasley> don't you DARE put me on YouTube!! [20:16] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:16] <fawkes28> hehe [20:16] <nympheart> lol [20:16] *** HedwigJune has quit [Bye] [20:16] <mollywobbles23> hehe [20:16] <DumbleDebbie> lol [20:16] <Books_4_eva> hehe it will end up on there somehow [20:16] <harryfreak359> lol [20:16] <Gryffinclaw> somehow [20:17] <harryfreak359> probably [20:17] <harryfreak359> lol [20:17] <Books_4_eva> sevral times [20:17] <harryfreak359> hopefully it makes pottercast though! [20:17] *** MidnightPhoenix has joined #lounge [20:17] <madamnarcissamalfoy> I got my friend to sign up for chamber of chat! only 14 days!! [20:17] *** MidnightPhoenix has quit [Bye] [20:17] <Gryffinclaw> several=20-50 [20:17] <madamnarcissamalfoy> (still grounded) [20:17] <Evreka> ?? [20:17] *** Poet has joined #lounge [20:17] <Gryffinclaw> Hi poet [20:17] <Evreka> Hi Poet [20:17] <mollywobbles23> what song did you do a filk to, futureweasley? [20:17] <fawkes28> hi poet [20:17] <JaneMarple9> hi Poet [20:17] <DumbleDebbie> hi Poet [20:18] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Hi poet! [20:18] <adamgryff> hi poet [20:18] <Poet> hi [20:18] <mollywobbles23> hi poet [20:18] <Books_4_eva> hi [20:18] <harryfreak359> hi poey [20:18] <harryfreak359> poet* [20:18] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:18] <madamnarcissamalfoy> poet is soooo popular!!! [20:18] <futureweasley> I want it to be a surprise [20:18] <Theoriser> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You're not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you'll be able to type again soon. [20:18] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [20:18] <Theoriser> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [20:18] <Theoriser> You won't be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Meg got it" in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [20:19] <Theoriser> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [20:19] <Theoriser> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [20:19] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [20:19] <Expelliarmas> The Department of Mysteries is a very detailed and complicated place, where a lot of action happens in a very short amount of time. If you were left with burning questions about the goings-on in the Department of Mysteries...even after your 10th reread of Order of the Phoenix...you are in good company, as it has won the poll to be this week's P3 discussion topic. [20:19] <Expelliarmas> The best place to find a collection of information about the Department of Mysteries is on the HP Lexicon ( http://www.hp-lexicon.org/ministry/ministry-mysteries.html). Here, you will find detailed descriptions of all 7 rooms in the Department of Mysteries, and a map of how Jo described their location in proximity to each other. [20:19] *** ammieofohio has joined #lounge [20:19] <Expelliarmas> Each room seemed to be "themed", but the actually functionality of these room is still a burning question in our minds. [20:20] <Expelliarmas> So, let's break down the Department of Mysteries, room by room, shall we? [20:20] <Expelliarmas> What was studied in the Brain Room? [20:20] <DumbleDebbie> hey cloudpic! [20:20] <adamgryff> hey cloudpic! [20:20] <DumbleDebbie> was it memory? [20:20] <adamgryff> memory [20:20] <madamnarcissamalfoy> The way brains work [20:20] <Evreka> How the brains work presumably... [20:20] <cloudpic> Hi there, all [20:20] <futureweasley> I'm thinking that the Brain Room was used to study what made Muggle and Wizard brains different [20:21] <Expelliarmas> I also wondered whose brains were studied there. [20:21] <fawkes28> yes, future that's what i almost typed smile [20:21] <JaneMarple9> I think it was memories [20:21] <madamnarcissamalfoy> good future [20:21] <Aislinn> Yes, I imagine it is how brains work, thoughts and memories [20:21] <Evreka> How would muggles brains end up there in that case? [20:21] <Poet> I think they were trying to figure out where magical talent originates. [20:21] <Books_4_eva> or maybe the different parts of the brain, moods fealings, memmory [20:21] <Theoriser> good idea future, they might be trying to find if there's something in the brain that gives you magic [20:21] <cloudpic> When the brains "got out" they attacked people... [20:21] <futureweasley> squibs could have volunteered [20:21] <fawkes28> maybe they also studied the difference between the "good" wizards and those who were in azkaban [20:21] <ammieofohio> Ooh, that's interesting... differences. But I've always just thought it was how charms and magic changed the mind... [20:21] <harryfreak359> Yes I think it had a lot to do with memories and thoughts...perhaps a study of occlumency? [20:21] <cloudpic> Maybe they were studying dangerous people's minds or criminal minds or dangerous ideas [20:22] <futureweasley> or they used Muggle parents of wizards who volunteered [20:22] <DumbleDebbie> memory would be considered a 'mystery' I would think [20:22] <nympheart> I think squibs might fit in a different category [20:22] <fawkes28> like what made a person go bad [20:22] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Easy, brains that can be transported, taken, or if you are jo, you can find a reason.. [20:22] <Inkreader13> maybe trying to figure out how magic worked and how manbe it could be taken away or given too someone [20:22] <futureweasley> yes, DumbleDebbie, I agree [20:22] <Poet> But something about the brains reminded me of a film strip though - so it's possible they were studying memories [20:22] <Evreka> I somehow think it was criminals brains [20:22] <Expelliarmas> when I read about this room, I thought a little too "CSI". blah. [20:22] <futureweasley> lol Expie [20:22] <harryfreak359> lol [20:22] <Books_4_eva> well it could have been where the pensive was first made [20:22] <Evreka> from those who died in Azkaban [20:22] <adamgryff> lol expie [20:22] <Expelliarmas> or Quincy, M.E. [20:22] <cloudpic> Maybe it's a big computer type thing... you know what they call a "meat" computer in science fiction? [20:22] <fawkes28> right, books4eva [20:22] <Poet> Nice idea Books_4_eva [20:22] <futureweasley> it's a possibility Evreka [20:23] <cloudpic> I agree Evreka [20:23] <futureweasley> I like the Pensieve idea, too...B4E [20:23] <mollywobbles23> I think they studied a bunch of things like memory, thoughts, magic, etc... [20:23] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Well, i thought about how when you are smart you can attack people with your knowlegde. [20:23] <Evreka> I mean, normally dead wizards go through the Veil, right? [20:23] <DumbleDebbie> you meana biological computer cloudpic? [20:23] <nympheart> were they dead brains if one could strangel ron? [20:23] <Poet> cloudpic - that is an amazing but cool ida [20:23] <nympheart> *strangle [20:23] <ammieofohio> in theory. [20:23] <Poet> *&idea [20:23] <Expelliarmas> If they wanted to know about memories, there are more than enough Muggle studies for that. There'd have to be some magical connection to justify the study of those brains. [20:23] <cloudpic> Why would they need the actual brains...all in one tank unless they were hooked together that way [20:23] <fawkes28> perhaps they have studied the brains of godric gryffindor, salzaar slytherin, etc [20:23] <nympheart> I agree, Expie [20:23] <cloudpic> Yes, DDebbie... [20:24] <JaneMarple9> I wonder how the brains got there in the first place? [20:24] <madamnarcissamalfoy> bye [20:24] <fawkes28> that would be interesting to see how their brains worked [20:24] *** madamnarcissamalfoy left #lounge [] [20:24] <ammieofohio> maybe they found a way to use minds as a weapon? [20:24] <DumbleDebbie> but the other rooms are studing things not particularly 'magical' [20:24] <futureweasley> ammie...that's a good possibility too [20:24] <nympheart> your mind isn't the same thing as your brain [20:24] <ammieofohio> together... can't remember where I heard it, but that's been a theory for a bit now.. [20:24] <cloudpic> Dr. Frankenstein hired out for removals...;) [20:24] <Evreka> nympheart, I think the brains can live after the body is dead [20:24] <JaneMarple9> thats a interesting idea if they use it for a weapon [20:24] <mollywobbles23> lol, cloudpic [20:24] <Evreka> in HP I mean [20:24] <Expelliarmas> the brains are active; I wonder if they are capable of communication? [20:24] *** Lizzieangel90 has joined #lounge [20:24] <Theoriser> they could have been studying how your mind stores thoughts, because there were memories coming out of the brains [20:24] *** Lizzieangel90 has quit [Bye] [20:24] <futureweasley> hi Lizzie! [20:24] <Evreka> through the liquid in the tank [20:25] *** Lizzieangel90 has joined #lounge [20:25] <CestlaVie> what was the liquid in the tank? [20:25] <cloudpic> No, your mind also includes your hormones and other chemical reactions...but memory and problem solving are in the brain [20:25] <DumbleDebbie> things like love and death are human mysteries, not only magical people mysteries [20:25] <futureweasley> hi again Lizzie [20:25] *** Inkreader13 has quit [Bye] [20:25] <Lizzieangel90> Hello! smile [20:25] <JaneMarple9> Do we Really want to know what the liquid was? smile [20:25] <CestlaVie> lol [20:25] <JaneMarple9> hi Lizzie [20:25] <fawkes28> if it helps! [20:25] <DumbleDebbie> cerebral-spinal fluid? [20:25] <nympheart> I don't think so, Jane [20:25] <futureweasley> I have a theory about that Jane [20:25] <Books_4_eva> I also see it as a place there memory posions and such where made [20:25] <Expelliarmas> no, Jane, I'd rather not. [20:25] <Evreka> But does wizards care for others than wizards/witches/squibs? [20:25] <fawkes28> let's hear [20:25] <Aislinn> it was probably just a preservative [20:25] * Poet shakes in the presence of the greateness that is Lizzieangel90 [20:25] <JaneMarple9> thought you might fw smile [20:25] <cloudpic> Those brains are Pearly White...I don't think healthy human brains are...aren't they grey? [20:26] <cloudpic> you know, "grey matter"??? [20:26] <nympheart> some do, Evreka [20:26] <futureweasley> I think it was described the same as the liquid that had the Horcrux in it in the Cave [20:26] <Lizzieangel90> LOL hey sarah! what are we dicussing? [20:26] <Aislinn> there is grey and white matter, actually [20:26] <Books_4_eva> whell they would be gray becaus there would be no blood in them [20:26] <Poet> The Brain Room is being discussed [20:26] * Expelliarmas reaches for the bucket ... [20:26] <Lizzieangel90> ooooh cool [20:26] <JaneMarple9> yes thats interesting fw [20:26] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie [20:26] <harryfreak359> lol expepl [20:26] <Evreka> Yeah but I meant the Unspeakables specifically [20:26] <cloudpic> LOL expell [20:26] <harryfreak359> expel* [20:26] <cloudpic> Put on your anatomy hats, folks! [20:27] <cloudpic> and aprons... [20:27] <harryfreak359> Brains are fascinating [20:27] <JaneMarple9> do we have to? biggrin [20:27] <Expelliarmas> Madam Pomfrey said that it was deep thoughts that causes Ron's scarring. Why are thoughts so dangerous? [20:27] <DumbleDebbie> eww, cloudpic [20:27] <cloudpic> I agree, HarryFreak [20:27] <cloudpic> LOL [20:27] <fawkes28> thoughts have a mind of their own [20:27] <nympheart> from thought springs action [20:27] <mollywobbles23> thoughts can't be controled [20:27] <futureweasley> good play on words Fawkes [20:27] <Evreka> Well Lord V's thoughts could probably kill people [20:27] <JaneMarple9> Thoughts are the deepest things we keep from other people [20:27] <DumbleDebbie> well, the dementors certainly use them as a weapon [20:27] <harryfreak359> Because the mind is much more powerful than anything else [20:27] <Books_4_eva> ignorane is bliss, curiosity kille dhte cat [20:27] <cloudpic> What do you suppose the "streamers" were that the brains shot out to entangle people?? [20:27] <Poet> Thought can be put in objects like pensieves or books... [20:27] <Aislinn> I've always thought that the cliche, sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me was dead wrong [20:27] <Theoriser> I just thought it was a nice touch from Jo, because memories can be so emotionally scarring, and they managed to hurt Ron physically [20:27] <cloudpic> Were they the "weapons' [20:27] <JaneMarple9> The mind is very poweful yes [20:28] <Aislinn> as the other cliche goes, the pen is mightier than the sword [20:28] <cloudpic> Yeah, I'd forgotten the scars... [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> yes, Theo, very nice imagry [20:28] <futureweasley> words can be more damaging than any type of action [20:28] <Aislinn> thoughts are very powerful things [20:28] <Expelliarmas> I always thought that as well, Aislinn [20:28] <fawkes28> yes, future [20:28] <harryfreak359> Yeah Aislinn [20:28] <adamgryff> thoughts are very powerful [20:28] <cloudpic> So the streamers were thoughts? [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> the Dementors use a pesons own thoughts to torture them [20:28] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [20:28] <Aislinn> that was the impression I got cloudpic [20:28] <Poet> Too true [20:28] <nympheart> yes, DD, nice points [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> hi Jrg [20:28] <Jrg1990> evenin all. [20:28] <Evreka> But if the owner of the brain died in a wizard duel... maybe the brain still tried to kill it's "opponent" [20:28] <harryfreak359> You can damage the body with a weapon, but you can damage the soul with words [20:28] <CestlaVie> I wonder if Ron ever glimpsed any of the thoughts when the brains attatched to him? [20:28] <Expelliarmas> thoughts can be powerful weapons for and against [20:28] <futureweasley> yes, when you get stuck in your own mind...it's tough to break free [20:28] <JaneMarple9> thats right they do. Dementors use them against people [20:29] <Poet> Evening [20:29] <futureweasley> Hi James!! [20:29] <ammieofohio> and you can change a mind with actions. [20:29] <DumbleDebbie> like residual, unfinished business Evreka? [20:29] <DumbleDebbie> true HF [20:29] <ammieofohio> ((Brb. laundry day.)) [20:29] <cloudpic> Maybe that tank is the Wizarding version of those frozen brain places in our Muggle world... [20:29] <Lizzieangel90> awwwww. i have to go! sad have a wonderful chat everyone!! [20:29] <Evreka> Yeah, part of it could be [20:29] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [20:29] <futureweasley> see you Lizzie [20:29] <harryfreak359> bye lizzie! [20:29] <cloudpic> Bye Lizzieangel [20:29] <ammieofohio> bye lizzie! [20:29] *** Jrg1990 has quit [Bye] [20:29] <Books_4_eva> bye [20:29] <Expelliarmas> I wonder if Ron retained any of the thoughts from the brains? It seemed to have no additional affect on him. [20:29] <JaneMarple9> Never thought about the thoughts before smile [20:29] <Evreka> bye [20:29] <nympheart> Does Ron know what these thoughts were? [20:29] *** Lizzieangel90 has quit [Bye] [20:30] <cloudpic> He didn't mention any mental anguish...just physcial [20:30] <Poet> Also, with the use of non-verbal spells and with the unforgivable curses we've seen that the thought behind the words is often more important than the words themselves. Thoughts an essential component to magica. [20:30] <Evreka> But also a killers thought might make a normal person sick [20:30] <cloudpic> physical [20:30] <Books_4_eva> ron was a little out of it at the time [20:30] <Aislinn> they seemed to have a physical rather than psychic affect on him [20:30] <adamgryff> May Ron doesn't remember the thoughts [20:30] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [20:30] <JaneMarple9> Well he didn't seem much affected in book 6 [20:30] <cloudpic> No.... [20:30] <harryfreak359> no not at all [20:30] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette [20:30] <CestlaVie> true [20:30] <cloudpic> you're right jane [20:30] <JaneMarple9> That what I think too Adam [20:30] <Expelliarmas> he had no dreams from them [20:30] <Pleshette> Hello! [20:30] <harryfreak359> I think it all depends on the person too [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> hi Pleshette [20:30] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [20:30] <Books_4_eva> unless he just didn't say [20:30] <cloudpic> So, if Ron doesn't remember it.... it could come back to "haunt" him or control him in some way? [20:31] <Evreka> But we don't see Ron from "within" as we do Harry [20:31] <JaneMarple9> He's forgotten the bad thoughts - Sirius's death probably eraseds them [20:31] <nympheart> It may have affected Ron's sudden growing up [20:31] <Aislinn> I think the fact that they manifest themselves physically meant that they affected him physically [20:31] <futureweasley> the thoughts he acquired could be locked away in his mind [20:31] <cloudpic> But no one seemed too concerned about the possibility...wouldn't his father have known that danger [20:31] <futureweasley> they could be "hiding" [20:31] <JaneMarple9> but they might return in book 7 [20:31] <CestlaVie> I doubt it [20:31] <fawkes28> i think they could return as well [20:31] <Evreka> Perhaps he was affected on the outside partly as a result of his reactions to whatever thoughts weeded into his brain? [20:31] <Aislinn> if the thoughts had spun into his brain, they might have affected him emotionally, or psychically [20:31] <cloudpic> Might could be! [20:31] <Expelliarmas> but Ron's reaction to the thoughts while the brains were on him was interesting. He seemed overwhelmed by the thoughts. [20:32] <sdcurtis> What if ron got attacked by a dementor....would that be one of the thoughts he remembers [20:32] <cloudpic> But, still, wouldn't the ministry or Dumbledore have been aware of that danger if the brains were being studied there? [20:32] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps Ron "forgot" to tell his parents what he saw [20:32] <cloudpic> Or used there? [20:32] <fawkes28> it might be, curtis [20:32] <Evreka> Yeah [20:32] <adamgryff> not if it is still a mystery to them cloudpic [20:32] <mollywobbles23> my brain hurts [20:32] <nympheart> Sure, cloudpic, but no one was supposed to find or know about it [20:32] <Aislinn> I think he was overwhelmed by being wrapped in them expie [20:32] <cloudpic> Yeah.. [20:32] <Evreka> I used to think it would come back, but now I am less certain [20:32] <Books_4_eva> but they would notic ron coming home with scars like that [20:32] <DumbleDebbie> lol Molly [20:32] <JaneMarple9> I would have thought the ministry don't know much about the DoM [20:32] <futureweasley> I think the brain attack was quite traumatic for Ron...I'm sure it will be one of his worst memories [20:32] <Expelliarmas> by the number of thoughts, or the subject matter of the thoughts, Aislinn? [20:33] <JaneMarple9> Mine does too Molly smile [20:33] <harryfreak359> I don't think that the brains actually mentally hurt Ron at all [20:33] <cloudpic> True, futureweasley [20:33] <Poet> Hmm. I thought that perhaps its been so long now that the scars from the brains weren't important. At the time they simply showed Ron's courage - a bit like the way he was injured/knocked out playing chess in Book 1. [20:33] <Aislinn> me either harryfreak [20:33] <Evreka> Why not? [20:33] <Aislinn> the number expie [20:33] *** Breanna has joined #lounge [20:33] <CestlaVie> How did the brains show Ron's courage? [20:33] <futureweasley> when he was being attacked by the brain...it made me think of the Devil's Snare in PS/SS [20:33] <Theoriser> I thought that Ron was more physically hurt than mentally [20:33] <harryfreak359> I think Madam Pomfrey meant that being strangled by brains would be kind of...disturbing, but not that the brains actually did something to him [20:33] <fawkes28> yes, fw [20:33] <Poet> Yes futureweasley [20:33] <cloudpic> Why would that room be there and mentioned. JKR could have had Ron injured and incapacitated a number of ways...so won't it come back some how??? [20:34] <JaneMarple9> I thought it sent Ron a little funny, not showed his courage [20:34] <Expelliarmas> see I thought it was the revelation of the thoughts which hurt him. [20:34] <Pleshette> That's a good point cloudpic [20:34] <Poet> All of those that were unjured kept fighting is what I mean... [20:34] <DumbleDebbie> seems like it a good possibility cp [20:34] <Poet> *injured [20:34] <Aislinn> I think it was mainly that she needed to come up with a number of different types of things that would be studied in a DoM [20:34] <Books_4_eva> ron was already acting strnage befor the brains, that why he touched them in the first place [20:34] <CestlaVie> I think she mentioned it to show us the levels of depth of the DoM [20:34] <Evreka> That's what I had in mind too Expelliarmus [20:34] <Aislinn> and the brain is classic for that [20:34] <futureweasley> yes Aislinn...I agree [20:35] <cloudpic> That's true Aislinn... [20:35] <Aislinn> I didn't get that impression at all expie [20:35] <Evreka> I agree Aislinn [20:35] <Expelliarmas> Whose brains were in the tank? [20:35] <Evreka> Some rooms will come back I think, not all of them [20:35] <Books_4_eva> maybe the ministry had made them brains [20:35] <JaneMarple9> Ron usually acts strange at times of emergencies smile [20:35] <cloudpic> Dead people. [20:35] <fawkes28> former unspeakables [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> dead people's ;) [20:35] <futureweasley> lol cloudpic [20:35] <Poet> I would hope they were some of the brightest witches and wizards of their time. [20:35] <harryfreak359> from people who had been attacked by dementors [20:35] <Pleshette> I wonder if it's related to the study of Legilimensy or Occlumency [20:35] <Theoriser> probably people who donated them after they were dead [20:35] <nympheart> i don't think they could have been dead [20:35] <Expelliarmas> formerly powerful witches and wizards? [20:35] <Books_4_eva> maybe they where contructing the human mined [20:35] <Aislinn> I think that's possible poet [20:35] <nympheart> criminals [20:35] <JaneMarple9> who's brains were in there? Dead witches and wizards [20:35] <CestlaVie> how can you donate a brain if you're dead? [20:35] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has joined #lounge [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> or maybe those that had been given the Dementors kisss [20:35] <nympheart> yes, Cest [20:35] <futureweasley> I wonder if it matters whose brains were being studied...I would imagine it does matter [20:36] <harryfreak359> I wondered that too pleshette [20:36] <mollywobbles23> I'm reminded of that episode of Buffy where she is burdened with the ability to read people's thoughts and it makes her ill. [20:36] <cloudpic> Oh, dear...you mean dumbledore's brain is the first of the new batch in that tank??? [20:36] <Theoriser> they must have been wizards brain though [20:36] <Evreka> yeah criminals [20:36] <adamgryff> dead witches or wizards who were unusal [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> no cp! happysad [20:36] <Aislinn> ewwww, cloudpic! [20:36] <JaneMarple9> and with a little bit of luck, there will be a new brain in there in book 7 - Dumbledore's smile [20:36] <futureweasley> maybe former headmasters [20:36] <futureweasley> ? [20:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Or where people left their brains.biggrin [20:36] <CestlaVie> what would the Ministry want with criminal brains? [20:36] <futureweasley> (not Dumbledore) [20:36] <Expelliarmas> I think it matters which brains they studied; criminals would tend to think one way; non-evil types would tend to think another way. [20:36] <Evreka> Not Albus' [20:36] <nympheart> unusual brains, I agree adam [20:36] <harryfreak359> but I still go with dementor victims [20:36] <Evreka> :( [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> peope who were out of their minds? ;) [20:36] <fawkes28> i would love to study voldemort's brain [20:36] <CestlaVie> lol [20:36] <nympheart> ugh [20:37] <Poet> But to donate them you possible had to know the room was there (be an unspeakable), or like Evreka said, be somewhere under Government control. [20:37] <cloudpic> Well, didn't they preserve Einstein's? and others... [20:37] <JaneMarple9> good point debbie biggrin [20:37] <harryfreak359> me too fawkes [20:37] <futureweasley> what brain, fawkes? [20:37] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I liked the way the thoughts stung [20:37] <futureweasley> lol [20:37] <Books_4_eva> but if they are human brains there did them tentical things come from [20:37] <Evreka> lol Dumble [20:37] <fawkes28> lol [20:37] <harryfreak359> ol [20:37] <cloudpic> To study and learn how they were different/special? [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> I'd love for Voldy to be separated from his brain [20:37] <adamgryff> lol [20:37] <mollywobbles23> lol [20:37] <cloudpic> But these brains were .... attacking [20:37] <JaneMarple9> wouldn't we all? smile [20:37] <Evreka> who wouldn't [20:37] <Poet> It seems like a clever way for some unspeakables to continue with their work, by having their brains put in the tank. [20:37] <nympheart> I think so cloudpic [20:37] <adamgryff> good point Poet [20:37] <Poet> That is worrisome - the attacking brains. [20:37] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [20:37] <JaneMarple9> perhaps they were trying to get free? [20:38] <CestlaVie> the brains only attacked because ron touched them [20:38] <Aislinn> you mean the ones in the tank, cloudpic? [20:38] <CedrellaBlack> hey [20:38] <cloudpic> Yes [20:38] <futureweasley> hi CB [20:38] <Books_4_eva> no they attacked thenron tuched it [20:38] <Evreka> Wonder how much is left of Voldies brain - if the soul takes up place or not [20:38] <JaneMarple9> hi Ced [20:38] <cloudpic> Why would they attack Ron? [20:38] <Breanna> maybe it is something like a pensieve [20:38] <harryfreak359> hi CB [20:38] <Aislinn> I think they seemed to attack but it was the spells that caused that [20:38] <cloudpic> No point if all they wanted was out [20:38] <mollywobbles23> Well, he accioed them first [20:38] <nympheart> Your soul isn't the same thing as your brain [20:38] <Aislinn> accio brain, and the one that Bella threw [20:38] <Breanna> maybe people switch out their brains when one gets too full [20:38] <nympheart> your brain's just a computer [20:38] <Poet> What made them attack. They were peaceful up till Ron started meddling. Perhaps they were trying to get back to a body. [20:38] <Aislinn> it wasn't the brains themselves that attacked [20:38] <Books_4_eva> ron touched one iof its tenticals and so it wrapped round his arm [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> I think that's separate evreka [20:38] <Theoriser> no, Ron touched the brain and then it attacked him [20:38] <JaneMarple9> yes that's a idea Poet [20:38] <cloudpic> Oh, my Breanna....I'd never get a new one! [20:38] <mollywobbles23> possible, poet [20:38] <Poet> Yes, I think the brain sensed a body [20:39] <harryfreak359> yes theoriser [20:39] <Aislinn> I'm not sure it was an attakc [20:39] *** ammieofohio has quit [Bye] [20:39] <CestlaVie> wouldn't the brain want to get inside Ron's head [20:39] <nympheart> Ron attacked it [20:39] <Aislinn> just an activation of the thoughts [20:39] <Poet> And it tried to connect to it [20:39] <cloudpic> And came after it to claim it...like to get a new moble home? [20:39] <Expelliarmas> Will any of what we saw in the Brain room be a factor in Book 7? [20:39] <CestlaVie> I don't think so [20:39] <JaneMarple9> yes, maybe it needed a new place to get rid of the thoughts? [20:39] <harryfreak359> I don't think it will be that much [20:39] <nympheart> maybe slightly [20:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I wonder if Ron would suffer any ill-effects from that incident [20:39] <JaneMarple9> I should hope so [20:39] <mollywobbles23> probably not, there's so much else [20:39] <Aislinn> I don't think it will be [20:39] <cloudpic> I think we will ... and it will affect Ron [20:39] <adamgryff> I think there will be somethings [20:39] <Evreka> Maybe the brain that attacked Ron hoped to get back alive if it could sneak into his head? [20:39] <fawkes28> maybe but i don' tthink it will be too important [20:39] <harryfreak359> but I would love to know more about it [20:39] <Books_4_eva> not this room at least [20:39] <Poet> Or it was trying to connect with Ron's brain - afterall there were multiple brains in the tank, probably usually used to connecting with each other. [20:39] <JaneMarple9> there might be important brains in there [20:40] <futureweasley> I don't know...maybe Ron's scarring will play...but I don't see the brains revolting against the trio and causing any damage [20:40] <CestlaVie> I hope we find out more about the DoM in general [20:40] <Expelliarmas> perhaps so, there's a lot we don't know, but I don't think it will be significant. [20:40] <Theoriser> if anything, I would say how important memories and thoughts are [20:40] <Aislinn> I think that room already served its purpose [20:40] <DumbleDebbie> Vulcan mind meld? [20:40] <cloudpic> Grindelwald's brain? [20:40] <futureweasley> Likewise, I don't really see the brains helping either [20:40] <fawkes28> yup the book can only be so big [20:40] <nympheart> ooh, interesting cloudpic [20:40] <cloudpic> Oooo... love it DumbleDebbie! [20:40] <Evreka> Vulcan? [20:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Could be. [20:40] <Poet> It think we'll see the room again but just briefly in passing. [20:40] <adamgryff> lol [20:40] <adamgryff> DD [20:40] <mollywobbles23> Jedi mind tricks [20:40] <DumbleDebbie> that's a scary thought cp [20:40] <CestlaVie> lol molly [20:40] <Pleshette> Me too Ais, Ron hasn't suffered since it's happened [20:40] <Pleshette> And that's been a year. [20:40] <Poet> Like someone said earlier, it is a bit like task 2 at the end of Book 1. [20:40] <mollywobbles23> *pictures Silent Bob in Mallrats* [20:41] <cloudpic> Like a virus that hasn't surfaced [20:41] <Aislinn> right pleshette [20:41] <Evreka> Didn't Jo deny that at some point? [20:41] <cloudpic> Has to have a trigger or the person's immune system weakened [20:41] <mollywobbles23> yeah, I think Ron was only physically scarred by them. [20:41] <cloudpic> Deny what? [20:41] <Evreka> That the brain has lasting effects on Ron? [20:41] <Aislinn> I think the brain was acting in a neutral manner, but people are not meant to come in contact in a physical way with its thoughts [20:41] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [20:41] <Evreka> I'm not sure [20:41] <Expelliarmas> What exactly was being studied in the Death Chamber? [20:41] <JaneMarple9> I think there has to be a reason for it to reappear in book 7 [20:41] <Aislinn> so it had a physical effect on Ron, scarring him [20:41] <cloudpic> OK... [20:42] <nympheart> death [20:42] <harryfreak359> err...Death? [20:42] <CedrellaBlack> Well do you think the brain attacking him is symbolic like knowing too much can hurt you? [20:42] <mollywobbles23> death [20:42] <JaneMarple9> erm...death? [20:42] <Evreka> but I used to believe so, and then I discarded it [20:42] <Books_4_eva> what happens after deaht maybe [20:42] <Expelliarmas> immortality? [20:42] <DumbleDebbie> death? [20:42] <CedrellaBlack> death [20:42] <Theoriser> what happens to you after you die [20:42] <mollywobbles23> It's the biggest mystery of all, isn't it? [20:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> The veil? Voices beyond the veil [20:42] <CestlaVie> relationship between death and life [20:42] <CedrellaBlack> or life after death [20:42] <cloudpic> Which one is death? The veil? [20:42] <nympheart> yup [20:42] <futureweasley> the affects of death on the live surrounding it [20:42] <adamgryff> whats happens after the veil [20:42] <futureweasley> *life [20:42] <Aislinn> Death is one of the big mysteries of any culture [20:42] <JaneMarple9> death seems popular smile [20:42] <CedrellaBlack> lol jane [20:42] <Poet> Dumbledore calls it the death chamber, so I trust he has his reasons. [20:42] <Books_4_eva> that vail was weired [20:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That is a good way of summing it up. Has anyone been to a cremation? [20:42] <Aislinn> people seek to understand this great mystery, as it will happen to us all [20:42] <DumbleDebbie> going beyond the veil is an old metaphor for the afterlief [20:42] *** Nunzia has joined #lounge [20:42] <mollywobbles23> no [20:43] <Evreka> Maybe it isn't studied in itself, more if there's a way to contact or learn from those who is dead? [20:43] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [20:43] <cloudpic> The curtain flutters...moves though there's no wind [20:43] <cloudpic> Why? [20:43] <JaneMarple9> Death really is a mystery in the Muggle world and the Wizard one [20:43] <fawkes28> good point, evreka [20:43] <cloudpic> How can it move? [20:43] <CestlaVie> if you stuck your head through the veil, what would you see? [20:43] <futureweasley> I'm wondering if it was like an electric chamber...like a room where the death of prosecuted wizards could be witnessed [20:43] <mollywobbles23> because people are always dying all around the world? [20:43] <nympheart> i think you'd get sucked in [20:43] <Books_4_eva> maybe the voices there thoughs of the dead... maybe there stuck in a type of limbo [20:43] <JaneMarple9> There might be anything behind it [20:43] <Evreka> I guess you'd die [20:43] *** TheFlyingBroom-- has joined #lounge [20:43] <cloudpic> So their passage disturbs it? [20:43] <TheFlyingBroom--> hi [20:43] <Nunzia> hi all [20:43] <Theoriser> I think you'd see nothing, unless you went the whole way through [20:43] <JaneMarple9> If I stuck my head behind it...just blackness [20:43] <mollywobbles23> yes [20:44] <CestlaVie> hmmmm..... [20:44] <cloudpic> Hmm... so as people pass through the veil...it moves [20:44] <CedrellaBlack> what happens if someone decides to walk through it? [20:44] <Aislinn> I think they are trying to figure out how to communicate with the people on the other side of the veil [20:44] <Theoriser> it reminds me of the doorway leading to nowhere in narnia, and when they went through it the people just disappeared [20:44] <Evreka> you might get decaptivated! [20:44] <nympheart> invisible ghosts [20:44] <fawkes28> they must test it with objects like stick a broom part way in and see what happens [20:44] <cloudpic> At least in their "soul" form...not like Sirius [20:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> If you go to a funeral the casket passes beyond a veil after the ceremony [20:44] <JaneMarple9> maybe a tiny bit of light at the end which keeps calling you [20:44] <CestlaVie> lol [20:44] <fawkes28> nice idea theorise [20:44] <futureweasley> The Death Chamber could have been Wizarding World's pre-Azkaban punishment [20:44] <Aislinn> but I can see how what you suggest might be possible, fW, especially in an earlier age [20:44] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [20:44] <harryfreak359> I wish Jo would write a book, "The Life in the Department of Mysteries" so that we could have all our questions answered [20:44] <TheFlyingBroom--> whats u all talkin about [20:44] <mollywobbles23> good connection, theoriser [20:44] <cloudpic> I've never been to a funeral like that [20:44] <mollywobbles23> I just finished reading Narnia, so that's fresh in my mind [20:44] <Expelliarmas> Where did the veil come from and how did it even get to the Department of Mysteries? [20:44] <nympheart> I agree fw [20:45] <cloudpic> It's ancient and crumbling This post has been edited by Theoriser: Oct 2 2006, 04:06 AM |
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[20:45] <fawkes28> i think the DoM was built around it
[20:45] <nympheart> I think it was built there [20:45] <JaneMarple9> Not been to a funeral so don't know what happens [20:45] <Books_4_eva> i think it was developed by the ministry [20:45] <cloudpic> Maybe it was always there and they built around it [20:45] <CestlaVie> the veil probably has some enchantment on it [20:45] <fawkes28> i don't think it can be transported from place to place [20:45] <nympheart> that's what I was trying to say fawkes [20:45] <Poet> I think some wizard long ago created it through experimentation. [20:45] <adamgryff> I think it has been there for a long time [20:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I reckon that the veil will be revisited in Book 7. [20:45] <Evreka> I think it is ancient - came with the first wizard [20:45] <CestlaVie> hopefully waggawagga [20:45] <futureweasley> I think the Veil is a place where life is in limbo between life and death...if your crime was sufficient enough to put you in an infinite world of limbo...the veil is where you go [20:45] *** beadgirl has joined #lounge [20:45] <TheFlyingBroom--> ive never been to a funeral but i have been to a wedding [20:45] <Theoriser> maybe it's been there since the beginning of time [20:45] <Evreka> and that the DoM has been built around it and over it [20:45] <JaneMarple9> where did the veil come from? Is it made similar to the invisability cloak? [20:45] <CestlaVie> if the veil is Limbo, then what has become of Sirius? [20:45] <Nunzia> good theories. . .whoa [20:46] <Poet> Prehaps they found it in Egypt or some other early civilization. We know there are wizards with tombs. [20:46] <cloudpic> Oh, I hope not for Sirius's sake, future! [20:46] <Expelliarmas> I also think the DoM was built around it [20:46] <mollywobbles23> probably. I mean once there is life, there is death too. You can't have one without the other [20:46] <DumbleDebbie> no, I don't see it having the same fabric as the invis cloak [20:46] *** TheFlyingBroom-- has quit [Bye] [20:46] <DumbleDebbie> it seems like its own unique thing [20:46] <futureweasley> it's cruel, but managable cloudpic [20:46] <JaneMarple9> yes I like that, it may have been built round it [20:46] <Aislinn> ooh, I don't think so FW [20:46] <CestlaVie> the veil is black [20:46] <cloudpic> Why did Luna and Harry hear people there, then...their own dead people were good, presumably [20:46] <Expelliarmas> Do you think the origins of the veil are Muggle? Or Wizard? Why? [20:46] <Poet> The fabric reminds me of the dementors a tiny bit. You're living death after they get through with you. [20:46] <nympheart> wizard [20:46] <Evreka> An Invisibility Cloak is woven through the hairs of a magiocal animal [20:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I don't think it matters. [20:46] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think so FW, I think it's a gateway to the afterlife, reagardless of criminal status [20:46] <nympheart> it felt magic [20:46] <CestlaVie> origins of veil have to be wizard [20:46] <cloudpic> Maybe from the time when the two weren't separate [20:46] <Nunzia> wizard [20:47] <Theoriser> it could have been neither, it could have always just been there [20:47] <fawkes28> i would say wizard [20:47] <futureweasley> there is definite magic contained within the veil...I think it's magical [20:47] <Evreka> no way that's true for the Veil [20:47] <Expelliarmas> I don't think it's either wizard or muggle [20:47] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps anybody who has seen people die - good or bad - hear the voices? [20:47] <adamgryff> wizard, because you can hear people of the other side [20:47] <Books_4_eva> wizard no question [20:47] <harryfreak359> I think it is from wizards [20:47] <CedrellaBlack> if the DoM was built around it that means that the ENTIRE MoM was built theire becuase of the veil [20:47] <DumbleDebbie> right Evreka [20:47] <nympheart> didn't Harry feel his "magic" senses tingling? [20:47] <mollywobbles23> yes, he did [20:47] <DumbleDebbie> that happens a lot when someone is watching him (tingling) [20:47] <harryfreak359> Posibbly from ancient wizard times [20:47] <cloudpic> It's an artifact... it's not a natural thing like a big hole, it's an archway [20:47] <Aislinn> he did nympheart [20:47] <JaneMarple9> There is definate Wizard magic in the veil, no Muggle intervention [20:47] <beadgirl> i like that idea cedrella [20:47] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Good point Cedrella [20:47] <futureweasley> how would non-criminal wizards get in the veil? [20:47] <Evreka> Is it pure coincedence that VEIL is very close to EVIL??? [20:47] <cloudpic> And the curtain is tattered... [20:47] <Aislinn> it is an artifact, yes cloudpic [20:47] <futureweasley> or muggles, for that matter [20:48] *** Gryffinclaw has quit [Bye] [20:48] <Aislinn> quite ancient [20:48] <DumbleDebbie> who says there's only one veil? [20:48] <Books_4_eva> wasn't it the same kind of strange felling he got in ollivanders [20:48] <nympheart> death isn't evil though [20:48] <cloudpic> So it had to be a made thing [20:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> How was it close to evil? [20:48] <JaneMarple9> ooo not sure [20:48] <Nunzia> whoa evreka [20:48] <nympheart> the letters, wagga [20:48] <Evreka> The letters w3 [20:48] <JaneMarple9> the spelling I think [20:48] <futureweasley> see, I don't see the veil as a tranquil place [20:48] <mollywobbles23> Maybe the veil is the wizarding equivalent of the Grim Reaper [20:48] <cloudpic> Death was the punishment for original sin, no? [20:48] <DumbleDebbie> or maybe the stone arch is just a representation of the true 'veil' which lies in a dimention aoutside of 3D [20:48] <JaneMarple9> I don't think the veil is evil [20:48] *** break4nobody has quit [Bye] [20:48] <DumbleDebbie> *dimension [20:48] <CedrellaBlack> yes i think so cloud [20:48] <Expelliarmas> Was the veil used demarcate the entrance? So they would know when a soul had passed? [20:48] <fawkes28> it may not have been simply evil maybe it was used for people who were so sick that the veil was the best thing for them [20:48] <Aislinn> Luna seemed to view it as a benign place [20:48] <mollywobbles23> I don't think the veil is evil either [20:48] <futureweasley> I think it's dark and menacing...I don't think it's a gateway at all...I think it's a pergutory-type place [20:49] <Poet> I like that thought DumbleDebbie [20:49] <Aislinn> not an ominous one [20:49] <Theoriser> it's only scary because it's the unknown [20:49] <Aislinn> and I tend to think she had a reason for that [20:49] <JaneMarple9> I'd trust Luna's instinsts [20:49] <cloudpic> The whole archway and veil are surrounded by seats [20:49] <Aislinn> exactly theoriser [20:49] <CedrellaBlack> me too janr [20:49] <futureweasley> you fall behind the veil...you're stuck [20:49] <nympheart> Luna is very good in that area [20:49] <Aislinn> I don't think its menacing at all [20:49] <harryfreak359> I would too jane [20:49] <Poet> But I also get the sense that you shouldn't touch that veil [20:49] <cloudpic> I agree Jane...Luna is often right [20:49] <nympheart> yes, poet [20:49] <Evreka> oh fawkes - that sounds as the Nazis and their suffocating of ill people - not Jews [20:49] <mollywobbles23> It's creepy, but not evil; and it's creepy because you don't know what's beyond. [20:49] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think it's evil at all, it just is [20:49] <CedrellaBlack> Luna must be smart in some way becuase she is a Ravenclaw isnt she? [20:49] *** Breanna has quit [Bye] [20:49] <Expelliarmas> What's behind the veil? [20:49] <cloudpic> But it killed Sirius [20:49] <JaneMarple9> seems like as if a show is about to be performed therre [20:49] <CestlaVie> dead people [20:49] <nympheart> it's a gate to death [20:49] <harryfreak359> the afterworld [20:49] <DumbleDebbie> heaven and the other place [20:50] <futureweasley> who says Sirius is dead? [20:50] <CestlaVie> heaven? [20:50] <Poet> Another dimension - the immortal realm [20:50] <cloudpic> That's sinister [20:50] <fawkes28> in ancient times it may have been a right of passage for elders to go through the veil when they felt they spent enough time on earth [20:50] <nympheart> i think he's dead [20:50] <Nunzia> Bella killed sirius [20:50] <DumbleDebbie> jo says sirius is dead [20:50] <JaneMarple9> dead people or yes, it's a gate to death [20:50] <nympheart> didn't used to, but... [20:50] <Aislinn> that's an interesting thought fawkes [20:50] <cloudpic> He wasn't dead when he fell through the veil [20:50] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think its exactly heaven but it is a gate to pass to the beyond [20:50] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not necessarily a show. A ceremony maybe [20:50] <CedrellaBlack> so i would say its the beyond [20:50] <adamgryff> gate to immortality [20:50] <CestlaVie> I think maybe the spirits of dead people are behind the veil [20:50] <cloudpic> And all the Order members took going through the veil as final. [20:50] <futureweasley> just because Harry can't get to him doesn't necessarily mean he's dead [20:50] <Aislinn> I think he was, cloudpic [20:50] <Nunzia> Remember "green light"??? [20:50] <Evreka> But since we have no choice but to die sooner or later, and we don't know what happens - maybe it's evil in a sense [20:50] *** isa has joined #lounge [20:50] <cloudpic> Yeah, CestlaVie [20:50] <Books_4_eva> bye guyes I'll be back in a bit [20:50] <DumbleDebbie> LOL adamgryff, then Voldy should walk on thru [20:50] <CedrellaBlack> hey isa [20:50] <Theoriser> I don't think it's heaven necessarily, but it's a different place, where you can only get to when you're dead [20:50] <mollywobbles23> It reminds me of the Underworld in mythology [20:50] <nympheart> green light? Gatsby? [20:51] *** Books_4_eva has quit [Bye] [20:51] <JaneMarple9> Is it possible that the death room was previously a place where Wizard court was held etc? [20:51] <Aislinn> that's a depressing thought evreka [20:51] <Evreka> because we're affraid of it - or uncertain? [20:51] <adamgryff> yes [20:51] <mollywobbles23> what about the green light? [20:51] <fawkes28> but dumbledore said that sirius was dead so once you pass you have to have died [20:51] <CedrellaBlack> what about green light? [20:51] <Nunzia> green light = avada kedavra [20:51] <isa> maybe he died from someting else inside [20:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think so. Capital punishment, anyone? [20:51] <CedrellaBlack> oh lol [20:51] *** mdb has joined #lounge [20:51] <JaneMarple9> sounds like ther wizard court hearings we see the the penseive [20:51] <Nunzia> Bella killed Sirius [20:51] <futureweasley> I'm not a "Sirius is coming back" supporter at all...but I don't believe that the Veil is definite death [20:51] <cloudpic> Oh, Wagga! [20:51] <Evreka> Yeah, but I really mean if Jo took that similarity into account or not? [20:51] <nympheart> I was lost too Cedrella [20:51] <CedrellaBlack> lol [20:51] <JaneMarple9> green light - yes AK curse [20:51] <mollywobbles23> well, in Gatsby the green light represented the American dream/Daisy/the unattainable [20:52] <Aislinn> the wizards don't believe in Capital punishment [20:52] <DumbleDebbie> maybe Sirius falling through was the 1st time someone had physically gone through [20:52] <nympheart> that's where my mind went Molly [20:52] <CedrellaBlack> ohh i get it now thank molly [20:52] <futureweasley> they don't now, Aislinn...but what about ages ago? [20:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No that was a separate room further on. Harry was in it for his own hearing [20:52] <Aislinn> although their use of the Dementors is hypocritical [20:52] <isa> i doubt it..i mean it looked ageold [20:52] <DumbleDebbie> it sounds like they maybe just watch the veil most of the time [20:52] <Evreka> That's possible Debbie [20:52] <DumbleDebbie> like a symbol of a spirit moving past [20:52] *** beadgirl has quit [Bye] [20:52] <cloudpic> Or maybe others had tried it as an experiment and never came back [20:52] <fawkes28> i wouldnt volunteer [20:52] <mollywobbles23> I just read it and had a midterm over it, so it's fresh in my mind [20:52] <JaneMarple9> yes but what do they watch it for? [20:52] <CestlaVie> how come no one protects this room if it's so important/dangerous [20:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Maybe they hold ceremonies there to farewell people [20:53] <JaneMarple9> someone to jump out of it? biggrin [20:53] <Poet> I think as soon as Sirius touched the veil his body was seperated from his soul and can't be knitted back together. In his case his whole body went through but it's still split [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> don't know Jane [20:53] <cloudpic> I really think Harry will have to go through there...as part of the Hero's Journey to the "Underground" or Land of the Dead...to learn something he needs to know [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> lol [20:53] <Evreka> No, Albus had a funeral at Hogwarts [20:53] <cloudpic> And that he'll come back...like Odysseus did. [20:53] <Expelliarmas> Why is something as dangerous as the veil sitting in the middle of a stage? [20:53] <JaneMarple9> yes possible Cloud [20:53] <Poet> I agree cloudpic, but how will he return - I have no idea. [20:53] <Evreka> And we saw souls passing but no funerals [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> interesing cp [20:53] <Pleshette> I wonder if someone else will have to pass through to find Harry and bring him back [20:53] <nympheart> because no one's supposed to have access to it and that's where it was built [20:53] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [20:53] <CestlaVie> I thought of the movie Poltergeist when I read about the veil, kind of like when the lady tied a rope and went in the closet to get her daughter back [20:53] <JaneMarple9> It's the centre of theDoM? [20:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Perhaps Voldemort has to go through the veil [20:53] *** mdb has quit [Bye] [20:54] <Aislinn> it is in a protected area - in theh Dept.. that few have access to [20:54] <cloudpic> Harry's approaches to things is always "outside the box" and spontaneous... [20:54] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [20:54] <fawkes28> it was meant for people to view i believe [20:54] <Evreka> To make certain noone falls through by misstake? [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> I thnk Harry usually does that part alone Pleshette [20:54] *** madamnarcissamalfoy has joined #lounge [20:54] <cloudpic> Or maybe he'll have help from those he "visits" on the other side of the veil [20:54] <CedrellaBlack> what was the question? [20:54] *** isa has quit [Bye] [20:54] <Pleshette> True cloudpic [20:54] <Evreka> because people sit on the benches while trying to communicate with the lost ones? [20:54] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hi all! where are we??? [20:54] <fawkes28> but if harry goes in i don't think he can come out [20:54] <JaneMarple9> Could be interesting if anybody came through the veil to contact Harry [20:54] <cloudpic> That's what I've pictured, Evreka [20:54] <CestlaVie> sounds ominous [20:54] <Poet> Why a stage? I guess it's nice to have something like that in plain view so lots of people can watch? The whole thing is very creepy. [20:54] <CedrellaBlack> right thats what i was wondering [20:54] <Pleshette> Perhaps Ginny will hear his voice from the other side and call him back [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> maybe if Harry goes thru the veil he'll be able to return to the living b/c of the shard blood with Voldy [20:54] <cloudpic> I think he will come out. [20:55] <futureweasley> I think that "stage" is the operative word here...I think that punishment via the veil was staged for witnesses there [20:55] <CedrellaBlack> can you go into the veil willingly and still come out [20:55] <Evreka> Yeah I saw that after writing it up cp [20:55] <DumbleDebbie> that may be Evreka [20:55] <mollywobbles23> Why is something as dangerous as the veil sitting in the middle of a stage? Cedrella [20:55] <nympheart> crowds gathered to watch executions [20:55] <fawkes28> maybe there is a spell they use to contact people [20:55] <cloudpic> How did Odysseus get back from the land of the dead? I don't remember... [20:55] <CedrellaBlack> becuae Sirius definetely didnt go it willingly [20:55] <JaneMarple9> It could be Sirius from beyond the grave giving Harry one last helping hand? [20:55] <fawkes28> no he didn't [20:55] <Expelliarmas> I don't think folks sit on the benches trying to communicate with their familiy members. I don't think it's widely known in the community that the veil is there. I think it's a study place. [20:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Maybe Harry has to entice him there [20:55] <DumbleDebbie> The 'John Edwards' of the MoM? [20:55] <Theoriser> the veil was definately intended for people to watch [20:55] <adamgryff> I dont think you could come back after you entered. [20:55] <futureweasley> lol, I thought that, too DumbleDebbie!! [20:55] <Evreka> I think the Veil represents death - finally and for good [20:56] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf left #lounge [] [20:56] <DumbleDebbie> :D FW [20:56] <CedrellaBlack> gp evreka [20:56] <Aislinn> I agree expie [20:56] <cloudpic> Yes....studying Death...trying to contact the dead...like Houdini [20:56] <JaneMarple9> yes when you go through the veil there's no coming back [20:56] <CestlaVie> I agree [20:56] <harryfreak359> yes [20:56] <madamnarcissamalfoy> death?? i dont think I agree. I think surius will come back! [20:56] <adamgryff> I agree [20:56] <Evreka> That's what I meant Expelliarmus, that Unspeakables do - for study [20:56] <futureweasley> I think the veil was early wizarding's version of the gas chamber,,,or the electric chair [20:56] <cloudpic> But Heroes have done that in mythology etc. [20:56] <nympheart> lol, Cissy! [20:56] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think so. Madam [20:56] <futureweasley> it was used for punishment [20:56] <Aislinn> I think it may have been used as punishment in an early wizarding age, but is now used for study, and is accessible only to the unspeakables [20:56] <CedrellaBlack> what if you just pput a hand in? could you walk away with no hand? [20:56] <mollywobbles23> I don't think he will. [20:57] <JaneMarple9> nah Sirius is well gone...although the two way mirror of Harry's might help in a way? [20:57] <CedrellaBlack> or would you get your hand back? [20:57] <Aislinn> it would have been a fairly humane way of sending people to the other side [20:57] <cloudpic> Maybe it sucks you in...or you get "grabbed" [20:57] <nympheart> I think you'd be sucked in [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> don't know CB, 1st tough might split soul/body [20:57] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Its just that he didnt die like dd. RIght? [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> *touch [20:57] <mollywobbles23> Isn't the two-way mirror supposed to bee seen again in Book 7? [20:57] <cloudpic> Wouldn't stick any body parts into it! [20:57] <CedrellaBlack> interesting DD [20:57] <Evreka> But it doesn't make sense that souls would go through an old punishment hole [20:57] <JaneMarple9> horrible thought smile imagine being sucked in! sad [20:57] <CestlaVie> lol [20:57] <Nunzia> Harry's mirror is broken [20:58] <sdcurtis> yeah the mirror is suppose to be coming bac into play [20:58] <Poet> Right - don't touch that veil [20:58] <nympheart> Sirius's death violates the rules of fantasy death, but I think he is dead [20:58] <Aislinn> it may just be one portal - doesn't mean its the only one [20:58] <CestlaVie> exactly what I was thinking Nunzia [20:58] <Poet> I agree Aislinn [20:58] <Expelliarmas> The HP Lexicon says, "Some people can hear voices through the veil; it would seem that those who have lost loved ones are the ones who can hear voices..." Why, in your opinion, could Harry and Luna heard the voices, but none of the others? [20:58] <Evreka> Exactly Poet [20:58] <Aislinn> reparo folks [20:58] <mollywobbles23> Are we supposed to see the Veil again in Book 7? [20:58] <JaneMarple9> But perhaps Hermioone can repair it? Does Ron and Hermione know of the mirror? [20:58] <adamgryff> mirror may be broken but harry still has the pieces [20:58] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Yeah, I think once you put a body part in you hafta put you r hole body there [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> same reason they could see the Thestrals [20:58] <CestlaVie> Didn't Ginny say that she heard voices as well? [20:58] <Poet> Those that have seen death are more sensitive to it. [20:58] <fawkes28> i think they are both very in tune with their senses [20:58] <Evreka> Because they had loved ones on the other side [20:58] <Theoriser> I think if you have a more personal experience with death, even if you haven't seen someone die, then you can hear the whispers [20:58] <cloudpic> Ginny was drawn to it.. [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> having been close to death makes them more aware of things that have been there all along [20:58] <Aislinn> because they had personally experienced death [20:58] <Pleshette> Maybe those who have come close to death [20:59] <futureweasley> I think it has the same effect as the thestrals...when you have lost someone, you can hear it [20:59] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [20:59] <futureweasley> Pleshette...I like that [20:59] <adamgryff> death of a loved one brings you closer to death [20:59] <Expelliarmas> Ginny might have been drawn to it, because of being possessed by LV. [20:59] <Aislinn> like seeing the Thestrals, yes Debbie [20:59] <CestlaVie> when would Luna have come close to death, Pleshette? [20:59] <cloudpic> "I hear Dead People" [20:59] <JaneMarple9> But Ginny doesn't have anyone on the other side...does she? or is that a look in the future? [20:59] <CestlaVie> lmao [20:59] <Gryffinclaw> When her mum died [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> she saw her granfather(?) die [20:59] <mollywobbles23> She saw her mom die, didn't she? [20:59] <nympheart> i heard a theory that you can hear it if the mimbulus mimbletonia squirts you, I thought it was interesting [20:59] <fawkes28> i didn't like the way it drew them in [20:59] <Theoriser> and didn't Ron have an uncle who died? [20:59] <Nunzia> Luna lost her mum [20:59] <Aislinn> she experienced the death of her mum [20:59] <Evreka> Ginny nearly died in the Chamber of Secrets [20:59] <fawkes28> that can't be a good thing [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> oh right Mom [20:59] <futureweasley> Jane...don't say that!! [20:59] <futureweasley> lol [20:59] <Expelliarmas> I think Luna and HArry are sensitive to death [20:59] <mollywobbles23> Neville saw his grandfather die. [20:59] <Evreka> Harry has nearly died many times [20:59] <mollywobbles23> right? [20:59] <Pleshette> What I meant is those who experienced death of a loved one but for Ginny, being close to death herself [20:59] <Expelliarmas> Luna in her whacko way; Harry from being surrounded by it. [20:59] <Evreka> Neville has been endangered too [21:00] <JaneMarple9> Yes, she might had been with her Mum when she performed that magic what went wrong [21:00] <cloudpic> Her uncles were killed by Voldemort [21:00] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Mayb e it sort of has a place for every one who is going to die in the next ten years and they had been drawn to it cause they would experience something like that [21:00] <Theoriser> good idea Evreka, could be if you've nearly died [21:00] <cloudpic> Ginny's uncles I mean [21:00] <JaneMarple9> sorry FW, bad thoughts biggrin [21:00] <nympheart> they were Ron's uncles too [21:00] <Aislinn> I don't think it has to do with personal endangerment [21:00] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has joined #lounge [21:00] <adamgryff> death draws you into a place where you want to find your loved ones [21:00] <futureweasley> I think Pleshette might be on to something...that if you have had a near death event yourself...you are closely drawn to it [21:00] <Theoriser> because I remember both Harry and Ginny nearly died in Chamber of Secrets [21:00] <cloudpic> Oh, that's a sad thought Madamnarcissa [21:00] <Evreka> maybe not [21:00] <DumbleDebbie> Ginny was pretty close to death in CoS [21:00] <Aislinn> when would Luna have been close to death? [21:00] <cloudpic> Yes, [21:00] <Evreka> But why else Ginny but not Ron? [21:00] *** Poet has quit [Bye] [21:00] <CestlaVie> but wasn't Hermione close to death in the third book? [21:00] <Gryffinclaw> when? [21:01] <CedrellaBlack> what happened in the third books? [21:01] <Aislinn> yes Cestlavie [21:01] <CedrellaBlack> book* [21:01] <Evreka> Yeah that's true... [21:01] <CestlaVie> when she fainted with the dementors [21:01] <CedrellaBlack> oh yeah [21:01] <fawkes28> not death for hermione just having her soul sucked out [21:01] <Expelliarmas> As a follow-up: Was it designed to try to lure you in? Or was that just for Harry and Luna? [21:01] <Gryffinclaw> thats not death [21:01] <madamnarcissamalfoy> i dont think i has to do with whose had seen someone die, shes already doen that, i dont think she is gonnaagain [21:01] <mollywobbles23> did she faint? [21:01] <harryfreak359> I don't think it has anything to do with someone being close to death [21:01] <Nunzia> mmmmmmm [21:01] <futureweasley> who knows...she's a nutter...maybe Luna almost bit it searching for hornbuckles with her dad [21:01] <Aislinn> and in CoS, petrified [21:01] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But both Neville and Luna have lost family members so they have some connection too [21:01] <JaneMarple9> I am guessing Luna was close to death when her Mum died [21:01] <Evreka> Maybe that's not death though.... ? [21:01] <nympheart> Harry and Luna have had close experiences with death, it facinates them [21:01] <fawkes28> i think that part of the magic may lure you in if you have a loved one who is dead [21:01] <Aislinn> I don't think her life was threatened by her Mum's death [21:01] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think its designed as a lure [21:01] <Pleshette> Yes Wagga that's what I think too [21:01] <harryfreak359> I think it was just for Harry and Luna because they lost love ones and they could hear their voices\ [21:01] <JaneMarple9> It's a very interesting veil [21:01] <adamgryff> I think people with close death experiences gets drawn in to it. [21:02] <fawkes28> it seems like the veil has a mind of its own [21:02] <DumbleDebbie> they are just emotionaly drawn to it b/c of their personal circumstances [21:02] *** nympheart left #lounge [] [21:02] <cloudpic> But they were drawn to it...almost hypnotically [21:02] <Pleshette> Maybe a parent's death [21:02] <mollywobbles23> Didn't Harry think he heard Sirius? [21:02] <CestlaVie> I think many theories about the veil are similar to thestrals [21:02] <CedrellaBlack> I think that they were so close to death, it means somehting important to them so its a little more personal for them than for anyone else [21:02] <CedrellaBlack> not againb [21:02] * CedrellaBlack can anyone see this? [21:02] <Aislinn> I agree debbie [21:02] <CestlaVie> JK wouldn't use the same idea twice [21:02] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps if it reappears, more people will hear voices? [21:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Only Hermione and Ron unaffected at that point [21:02] <CedrellaBlack> okay my coputer keeps freezing [21:02] <Theoriser> she may use it slightly differently though [21:02] <cloudpic> She has before [21:02] <DumbleDebbie> I can see you CB [21:02] <Evreka> My thought on personal endangerement was thus: If you nearly died, your soul may have parted with you and started on the journey to the Veil.....=? [21:02] <madamnarcissamalfoy> I know! maybe it just springs curiousity in the already curious... or something like that [21:02] <cloudpic> Log off and come back CB [21:02] <CedrellaBlack> lol it works now [21:02] <Pleshette> Oo Evekra [21:02] <Evreka> And so you recognice it when you see it? [21:03] <CestlaVie> good thinking [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> cold be Evreka [21:03] <Pleshette> Interesting! [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> *could [21:03] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [21:03] <Aislinn> that is interesting [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> 'go toward the light' [21:03] <Pleshette> Hi Mr McG [21:03] <Gryffinclaw> yeah [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> hi Mr McG [21:03] <adamgryff> hi Mr.McG [21:03] <MrMcGonagall> HI, everyone! [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> :D [21:03] <fawkes28> hi mr. mcg [21:03] <futureweasley> hi MrMcg [21:03] <Aislinn> but I would have thought that would be true for Hermione as well [21:03] <mollywobbles23> hi [21:03] <madamnarcissamalfoy> yeah everka [21:03] <JaneMarple9> Hi MrMcgonagal [21:03] <Evreka> Hi MrMcGonnagall! [21:03] <madamnarcissamalfoy> why hermy? [21:03] <Aislinn> hi mr mcg [21:03] <DumbleDebbie> near death Aislinn? [21:03] <sdcurtis> Harry heard Sirius and then heard Ron. This is somewhat creepy in my opinon [21:04] <DumbleDebbie> with the Dementors? [21:04] <DumbleDebbie> maybe she didn't get close enough [21:04] <Aislinn> yes, debbie - or when she was petrified [21:04] <Pleshette> That's true Ais [21:04] <adamgryff> could be DD [21:04] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione & Ron haven't seen death yet. [21:04] *** Gryffinclaw has quit [Bye] [21:04] <mollywobbles23> he heard Ron? [21:04] <Expelliarmas> Can the veil be used as a horcrux disposal unit? For example: if Harry were to throw a Horcrux through the veil, do you think that would be sufficient to "destroy" it? [21:04] <cloudpic> I still think only those who've "seen death" either someone killed or their own eminant one (Ginny" are drawn to it [21:04] <Evreka> Bur Hermione nearly died AFTER they were at the Veil [21:04] <Pleshette> Wasn't she close in DOM? [21:04] <JaneMarple9> very tempting to call MrMcgonagall MrMcg, but I might type MrMagoo!:) [21:04] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hermione hasnt come close to death??? [21:04] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think so [21:04] <fawkes28> i don't think so i think it needs to be physically destroyed [21:04] <adamgryff> No, that would not work. [21:04] <Theoriser> hmm, interesting [21:04] <fawkes28> otherwise i think throwing it in the veil is an easy way out [21:04] <cloudpic> Sounds like a good plan...except that Dumbledore's hand was dead... so it's rather dangerous as a method, no? [21:05] <DumbleDebbie> Herminoe wasn't in the death room, was she? [21:05] <JaneMarple9> hmmm has Hermione come close to death? Not sure [21:05] <CedrellaBlack> no i dont think so [21:05] <Theoriser> well it is a piece of soul, and if the veil is where your soul goes when you die, then maybe [21:05] <mollywobbles23> yes she was [21:05] <futureweasley> I think if Harry throws the final horcrux into the veil, that Voldemort will be stuck in limbo forever, and unable to hurt anyone [21:05] <Pleshette> No but she was attacked by a DE [21:05] <mollywobbles23> I think [21:05] <Aislinn> hmmm, I tend to think it might work, but would be impractical to use [21:05] <Theoriser> but I don't really think it would work [21:05] <cloudpic> So maybe sticking your hand in Has been tried...by Dumbledore getting rid o the hoarcrux ring [21:05] <Expelliarmas> what would the souls beyond the veil do with a piece of LV's soul? Spit it back out and say, "No, thanks"? [21:05] <CedrellaBlack> but that puple spell that the DE sent her alsmost killed her [21:05] <DumbleDebbie> good question, It seems likely it would split soul from physical object [21:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not even in HBP. She was at Snape's office with Flitwick [21:05] <harryfreak359> Hmm...that is an interesting thought...but I don't know if it would work [21:05] <Evreka> Yeah after the Veil room, in the DoM [21:05] <Aislinn> lol expie [21:05] <cloudpic> and maybe that's why he still wears the empty ring hoarcrux. [21:05] <CedrellaBlack> and she was taking like 12 types of potion back at school [21:05] <cloudpic> wore [21:05] <adamgryff> I think to get rid of Lv you need to send him through the veil [21:05] <harryfreak359> lol expel [21:06] <Evreka> lol exp [21:06] <futureweasley> Expie...I was thinking the same thing [21:06] <Pleshette> Oh, I have to go and I don't want to sad [21:06] <DumbleDebbie> but if it's that easy why didn't DD tell harry to take the locket there? [21:06] <futureweasley> Heaven won't take him...hell doesn't want him [21:06] <JaneMarple9> she told Harry to come away from it or was that Ginny? [21:06] <Pleshette> See you all later! [21:06] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [21:06] <JaneMarple9> test [21:06] <DumbleDebbie> bye Pleshette (((Pleshette))) [21:06] <MrMcGonagall> I think DD was probably injured by the curses that protected the ring, rather than in the actual destruction of the horcrux. [21:06] <futureweasley> the veil is the perfect place for his [21:06] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:06] <futureweasley> *him [21:06] <Expelliarmas> bye Pleshette [21:06] <harryfreak359> oh...bye pleshette! [21:06] <CedrellaBlack> bye pleshette [21:06] <DumbleDebbie> lol Feture [21:06] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [21:06] <Aislinn> boo - bye pleshette [21:06] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye pleshette [21:06] <harryfreak359> lol Future [21:06] *** Nunzia has quit [Bye] [21:06] <mollywobbles23> oh, if it ends with Voldy going through the Veil, I will be really uspet. [21:06] <Aislinn> wow, huge lag [21:06] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:06] <mollywobbles23> upset* [21:06] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [21:07] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> why? [21:07] <Evreka> I don't think it's that easy... Perhaps only souls and whole people can go through, not objects [21:07] <DumbleDebbie> wasn't Hermione gravely wounded in the other room? [21:07] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Maybe hermione just wasnt interested in it. It wasnt something she had read up on so she didnt have any intrest in tampering with it. Maybe those who havent come close to dieing have the resistance against it, cause those who almost died lost their choice and want to see if it would be better? [21:07] <DumbleDebbie> been a while since I read HBP [21:07] <harryfreak359> yeah I haven't read it for like a year [21:07] <Evreka> Yeah Debbie, but it was later [21:07] <Aislinn> she was, after they had been in the veil room [21:07] <CedrellaBlack> i havent read HBP in a loong time [21:07] <DumbleDebbie> ok thanks Evreka [21:07] <CedrellaBlack> lol i should read up [21:07] <fawkes28> testing [21:08] <futureweasley> I see you fawkes [21:08] <Expelliarmas> we see you fawkes [21:08] <harryfreak359> I se you fawkes [21:08] <CedrellaBlack> i see you fawkes [21:08] <futureweasley> you can't hide [21:08] <fawkes28> smile [21:08] <harryfreak359> LOL [21:08] <DumbleDebbie> lol [21:08] <CedrellaBlack> its not only me that was having problems then [21:08] <harryfreak359> we all see you, just to make that clear [21:08] <Aislinn> nope, not just you cb [21:08] <futureweasley> no, we're all lagging [21:08] <JaneMarple9> and back again smile [21:08] <JaneMarple9> Yes it's a distressing book [21:08] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I had problems earlier. I had to go away and come back again [21:08] <Expelliarmas> Ok, moving onto the Hall of Prophecy: Harry's Prophecy was in Row 97. Are they filed in any kind of order? [21:08] <harryfreak359> I've been pretty good so far [21:08] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, I had probs earlier. inadvertent horcruxing of my screen name again [21:08] <mollywobbles23> I haven't had problems yet, I'm amazed [21:08] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Hey, im not lagging. DId you delete cookies??? [21:09] <harryfreak359> I think they were filed in some order [21:09] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo like prime numbers, mostly. [21:09] <Evreka> No 1 guess, after the order in which they are uttered [21:09] <fawkes28> i would think time order [21:09] *** sdcurtis has quit [Bye] [21:09] <futureweasley> I think they are filed in order of delivery... [21:09] <mollywobbles23> agree, Evreka [21:09] <Aislinn> possibly chronological [21:09] <futureweasley> yes fawkes...I agree [21:09] <CedrellaBlack> i think their filed in the order they are said or in the order of who said them [21:09] <adamgryff> I think probably from the newest to the oldest [21:09] <harryfreak359> I think so too Aislinn [21:09] <Theoriser> yeah, I agree Aislinn and futureweasley [21:09] <CedrellaBlack> like trelawney was in one section [21:09] <futureweasley> yes, that's the word...chronologic [21:09] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:09] <DumbleDebbie> wold make sense to file as they appear [21:09] <CedrellaBlack> and other seers in other sections [21:09] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Row 97 significant. Maybe when the prophecy fulfilled? [21:09] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Um, guys? the veil? [21:10] <JaneMarple9> I think I went through the veil then...or my computer did smile [21:10] <harryfreak359> lol [21:10] <Aislinn> we've moved on from the veil madam [21:10] <Evreka> lol [21:10] <fawkes28> lol [21:10] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:10] <Theoriser> we're talking about the whole of the department of mysteries mnm [21:10] <adamgryff> lol [21:10] <madamnarcissamalfoy> lol [21:10] <futureweasley> that makes sense too...it could be by family. Trelawney's families prophecies could havetheir own section [21:10] <Expelliarmas> madam, we've moved onto the Hall of Prophecy [21:10] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Bk 7 starts in 1997 [21:10] <MrMcGonagall> Is there an orb catalog that the Unspeakables use? [21:10] <madamnarcissamalfoy> missed the question [21:10] <CedrellaBlack> interesting point WWW [21:10] <DumbleDebbie> good oen Wagga [21:10] <Theoriser> probably, if there's that many prophecies [21:10] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> A lot are smashed now [21:10] <Evreka> no, we heard a Prophecy go off, it wasn't Trelawneys voice [21:10] <harryfreak359> possibly MrMcG [21:10] <CedrellaBlack> yeah poor other prophecys [21:10] <fawkes28> i wonder if someone's name is in there more than once [21:11] <harryfreak359> it would be hard to keep track of them otherwise [21:11] <JaneMarple9> It's a interesting place, the hall of prophecy [21:11] <DumbleDebbie> true Evreka [21:11] <Expelliarmas> if it were by the seer, then Harry's prophecy would be very lonely [21:11] <fawkes28> like if two or more prophecies have been made about any single person [21:11] <CestlaVie> probably Voldemort's name would be mentioned more than once [21:11] <DumbleDebbie> maybe her grandmother [21:11] <Evreka> I think they might be repaired Reparo! [21:11] <MrMcGonagall> Is there an orb that has Trelawney's PoA prophecy? [21:11] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> We heard 2 prophecies go off. One at the solstice but didn't say which one [21:11] <CedrellaBlack> they could be organized in who was the seer that uttered the prophecey [21:11] <JaneMarple9> I am surpised we hadn't heard of it before [21:11] <mollywobbles23> probably, MrMcG [21:11] <CestlaVie> how does one submit a prophecy? [21:11] <madamnarcissamalfoy> filed by importance to the lives "at stake" [21:11] <Aislinn> I don't think they could repair those evreka [21:11] <JaneMarple9> by magic? smile [21:11] <mollywobbles23> it just appears, doesn't it? [21:11] <fawkes28> i would think it just appears [21:11] <Evreka> don't know.. [21:11] <harryfreak359> I don't think they can be repared [21:11] <futureweasley> lol MrMcG...that's one of the questions coming up [21:11] <Aislinn> the memories came out and spoke and dissipated [21:12] <DumbleDebbie> they may magically appear on the shelves [21:12] <fawkes28> and that is what makes it a true prophecy [21:12] <JaneMarple9> abracadrabra? smile [21:12] <cloudpic> Do they get submitted like the threads of thought in a pensieve? [21:12] <Evreka> Maybe a good thing thoug if Dumbledore was correct [21:12] <CestlaVie> then would Harry's prophecy that he heard be there [21:12] <JaneMarple9> thats a idea cloud [21:12] <CestlaVie> about Pettigrew [21:12] <adamgryff> I don't think they can be repaired, then Lv would know the full prophecy [21:12] <Expelliarmas> I think once they are smashed, they are lost forever. don't think they have a backup [21:12] <cloudpic> LOL Jane [21:12] <fawkes28> no i think that was described as a prediction [21:12] <madamnarcissamalfoy> the way voldemort was sooo disappointed when the p broke, i dont think they can be repaired [21:12] <Evreka> lol Exp [21:12] <mollywobbles23> I think they just appear, otherwise someone else would know about The prophecy other than the trio and Dumbledore [21:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Prophecies in room only copies. Dumbledore showed what the prophecy was all about in the pensieve [21:12] <mollywobbles23> I mean, not even Trelawney knows [21:12] <cloudpic> Yeah, the DE's were clearly in trouble [21:13] <MrMcGonagall> It's an odd system, in any case, isn't it? That only the ones about whom the prophecy are made can access it? [21:13] <madamnarcissamalfoy> DE?? what s that? [21:13] <MrMcGonagall> Death Eater [21:13] <mollywobbles23> DeathEater [21:13] <CestlaVie> Death Eaters [21:13] <Evreka> Yeah but that's because he heard it and stored that Memory in it [21:13] <harryfreak359> Death eater madam [21:13] <JaneMarple9> Death Eater? smile [21:13] <madamnarcissamalfoy> thanks [21:13] <futureweasley> you'd think they'd have "backups" [21:13] <fawkes28> it is good in this case, mr mcg smile [21:13] <DumbleDebbie> Death Eaters [21:13] <CestlaVie> lol fw [21:13] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Freedom of information act. Only those to whom it is relevant. Need to know basis [21:13] <Evreka> I agree w3 [21:13] <Aislinn> right wagga smile [21:13] <adamgryff> I [21:14] <JaneMarple9> we might hear more prophecies in book 7 [21:14] <harryfreak359> I think it is a very good system...exactly wagga [21:14] <madamnarcissamalfoy> my husband. He likes actually having the name spelled out. not used to the tecnical lingo [21:14] <Expelliarmas> We know that only the people in which the prophecies are about can touch them. Why didn't Lord Voldemort just take the prophecy if he wanted it so desperately? Why go through the trouble of getting Harry involved? [21:14] <adamgryff> be back [21:14] *** adamgryff left #lounge [] [21:14] <DumbleDebbie> you're husband??? [21:14] <Evreka> I wonder if Sibyll has more P going... [21:14] <JaneMarple9> I wonder if there is one with Dumbledore's name? [21:14] <fawkes28> because he couldnt just stroll through the MoM [21:14] <MrMcGonagall> I think because he likes to stay in the background. Especially when the Ministry is so convinced he's not really back. [21:14] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Lucius? check the name honey. [21:14] <futureweasley> but he did just stroll into the MoM [21:14] <JaneMarple9> He was frightened of what it contained? [21:14] <cloudpic> Yeah, I agree...he couldn't get in there safely [21:14] <Evreka> Because he couldn't show himself or dared comming to the DoM himself [21:14] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He was still lurking. 1st he had the party then he allowed the ministry to think he wasn't there when he was [21:15] <MrMcGonagall> When he had to. |
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Knockturn Alley Fingernail Vendor Posts: 793 Joined: 10:44am September 2, 2005 Location: Buried under a mountain of homework |
[21:15] <harryfreak359> I think he wanted another chance to finish off Harry as well
[21:15] <cloudpic> Put his trusted DE's on the job...maybe as a test...or he thought it was easy? [21:15] *** adamgryff has joined #lounge [21:15] <DumbleDebbie> he's fictional honey [21:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> lol, dd [21:15] <fawkes28> well the order was on duty before and i'm sure he didnt want to deal with dumbledore [21:15] <Evreka> On the top level yes, but not into the DoM [21:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> not in my head. [21:15] <adamgryff> I'm back [21:15] <JaneMarple9> He had difficulty getting in there...he is quite well known [21:15] <Expelliarmas> Why didn't he just apparate with an invisibility cloak? [21:15] <harryfreak359> wb adam [21:15] <cloudpic> WB adam [21:15] <MrMcGonagall> V didn't want to show himself unless he had to. Jo has also mentioned that he prefers having lackeys to do his dirty work. [21:15] <fawkes28> i dont know if you can apparate in the DoM [21:16] <Evreka> He'd still be solid [21:16] <JaneMarple9> maybe you can't apparate in DoM [21:16] <harryfreak359> Yeah, true MrMcG [21:16] <mollywobbles23> I wonder if he had posessed one of his DEs if he would have been able to get the prophecy without actually appearing in the Ministry at all [21:16] <Evreka> and he'd still have to open the door [21:16] <mollywobbles23> ? [21:16] <Expelliarmas> if DD can make himself invisible, why not LV? [21:16] <adamgryff> true mr. mcg [21:16] <Aislinn> I really think he prefers staying in the background and having others do his dirty work [21:16] <fawkes28> interesing, molly [21:16] <harryfreak359> He only showed up when things started going wrong [21:16] <JaneMarple9> but then again, when Fudge and all his friends appeared, they might have apparated [21:16] <Aislinn> He only came out when he found it was gone, out of desperation to get rid of Harry [21:16] <DumbleDebbie> cause DD rules and Voldy drools [21:16] <JaneMarple9> A Portkey works though [21:16] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He tried that beforehand. Remember the snake & mr weasley? [21:16] <DumbleDebbie> ;) [21:17] <Evreka> lol [21:17] <JaneMarple9> He might have used a portkey yo get in there? [21:17] <harryfreak359> lol debbie [21:17] <madamnarcissamalfoy> ergh. Dont talk like that. [21:17] <Theoriser> I never understood that. He comes into the ministry at the end yet he couldn't before to get the prophecy? [21:17] <Theoriser> maybe he wanted to get Harry there as well and kill him [21:17] <Aislinn> I think he was desperate theoriser [21:17] <Evreka> But he was close to the entry [21:17] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Pwetty pwease [21:17] <harryfreak359> I don't know, Voldie's mind is a mystery [21:17] <adamgryff> agree aislinn [21:17] <MrMcGonagall> I do wonder how V knew that things were going so badly at the ministry. [21:17] <Evreka> he could flee, his DEs couldn't [21:17] *** Italianmom has joined #lounge [21:17] <MrMcGonagall> Was it just tht the DEs were taking too long? [21:17] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Lucius could have told him. [21:18] <Aislinn> he wanted to have the knowledge first, from a strategy viewpoint, but when he knew he wasn't going to get it, he decided to try to eliminate the threat [21:18] <harryfreak359> perhaps [21:18] <madamnarcissamalfoy> i think hes crazy!!!!!!!(in a goooooood way, master!) [21:18] <fawkes28> he saw it through harry's brain [21:18] <CestlaVie> good idea fawkes [21:18] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Probably fawkes29 [21:18] <adamgryff> well he was still emotionally connected with harry wasn't he [21:18] <Evreka> No, Bella told him [21:18] <fawkes28> well through the connection they have [21:18] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> sorry fawkes28 [21:18] *** Inkreader13 has joined #lounge [21:18] <Expelliarmas> How are the glass orbs supposed to be viewed? Are they meant to be a one-time recollection, or something more permanent? [21:18] <Evreka> She reached him first when she fled from Harry [21:18] <JaneMarple9> deserves to be in the DoM's Voldemort's brain smile [21:18] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps the Death Eaters were doing it wrong? [21:19] <Evreka> One time I think [21:19] <CestlaVie> ditto [21:19] <CedrellaBlack> me too [21:19] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:19] <Theoriser> maybe there's a way of transporting the memory to a more permanent place, like the pensieve [21:19] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:19] <DumbleDebbie> I thnk they could be played repeatedly by those to whome they apply [21:19] <madamnarcissamalfoy> I dont get the question! :confused: [21:19] <adamgryff> I agree with one time [21:19] <Aislinn> I think they are a one time thing [21:19] <fawkes28> i agree, one time [21:19] <CedrellaBlack> well i think the person that hear dthe prophecy wont forget [21:19] <CestlaVie> is the only way to hear the prophecy by breaking it? [21:19] <CedrellaBlack> but the pensieve would be permanent [21:19] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> At first DE's thought anyone could have taken prophecies but found out that wasn't the case. Sturgess & Bode [21:19] <Inkreader13> I think that you can view them a few times, but only if you know how. maybe there is a spell [21:19] <futureweasley> they only one time? wouldn't you want to be able to see what's been said over again? [21:19] <Aislinn> but then the memory of it would be in the listener's head, and could be viewed again in a pensieve [21:19] <Evreka> Would explain why only those concerned could get it too [21:20] <fawkes28> well once you hear it you can view that memory in a penseive [21:20] <CestlaVie> true [21:20] <JaneMarple9> revolving door is in good form today [21:20] <JaneMarple9> Am I here? [21:20] <Evreka> Exactly Aislinn [21:20] <fawkes28> yup [21:20] <mollywobbles23> yes, Jane [21:20] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:20] <futureweasley> that's a good observation Aislinn [21:20] <DumbleDebbie> but it may involve > 2 people [21:20] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Maybe there is a spell that if you use you can hear it alot. Gotta go watch a movie, by alll! [21:20] <MrMcGonagall> I've always wondered how the orbs themselves are created. [21:20] <fawkes28> bye [21:21] <mollywobbles23> bye [21:21] <CestlaVie> same [21:21] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, Dd [21:21] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye mme narcissa [21:21] <Evreka> bye [21:21] <CedrellaBlack> bye [21:21] *** madamnarcissamalfoy left #lounge [] [21:21] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye dd [21:21] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:21] <Evreka> By magic! ;-) [21:21] <DumbleDebbie> magical thought bubbles? Mr McG [21:21] <JaneMarple9> lets try again [21:21] <cloudpic> Glass blower [21:21] <adamgryff> lol [21:21] <fawkes28> you are here smile [21:21] <CestlaVie> lol [21:21] <JaneMarple9> where are we up to? smile [21:21] <CedrellaBlack> whats going on? [21:21] <MrMcGonagall> How does the prophecy itself get recorded in the DoM [21:21] <CedrellaBlack> ive always wondered that [21:22] <Evreka> By magic I think - automatically [21:22] <DumbleDebbie> don't know Mr McG [21:22] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think whoever heard it has to do the copying and sending [21:22] <futureweasley> that's an interesting though MrMcG...I think it has to do with the Master of the Hall of Prophecy [21:22] <MrMcGonagall> It's the magic bubble prophecy machine! [21:22] <DumbleDebbie> it would make sense if it was automatic [21:22] <mollywobbles23> I think it just appears...hold on, I think Jo said something about this..*checks quotes* [21:22] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Sort of registering it [21:22] <futureweasley> maybe there are like the Seer's Manager [21:22] <JaneMarple9> Yes by magic like most things in the wizarding world [21:22] <CestlaVie> lol fw [21:22] <Evreka> only it had dumbledores initials too [21:22] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr McG [21:22] <cloudpic> It must be fairly routine...there were so many! [21:22] <MrMcGonagall> I imagine it's somehow related to the way the Ministry tracks spells. [21:22] <CedrellaBlack> How does it get recorded especially if the Seer cant reemember becuase Trelawney doesnt remember her propheceys [21:22] <JaneMarple9> I wonder if Dumbledore has one in there? [21:23] <Expelliarmas> Harry hears the two prophecies when the orbs crash to the ground. One was "At the Solstice will come a new..." and the other was "...and none shall come thereafter." Will these Prophecies play a factor in Book 7? Or is this a clever red herring from Jo? [21:23] <CestlaVie> red herring [21:23] <JaneMarple9> If they had gone futher they might had found more [21:23] <MrMcGonagall> I think they were just random. [21:23] <adamgryff> red herring [21:23] <fawkes28> red herring [21:23] <futureweasley> I don't know...it's just so inticing [21:23] <Theoriser> I think this could have been to give us an idea of what real prophecies sound like, so we know when we hear them [21:23] <Evreka> red herrings I am 90 % certain Jo has said as much [21:23] <JaneMarple9> I think they might be important [21:23] <Evreka> Hasn't she? [21:23] <DumbleDebbie> Tom Riddle was born near the solstice [21:23] <Aislinn> I think it was a red herring [21:23] <CedrellaBlack> red herring [21:23] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [21:23] <CestlaVie> solstice...that means the summer or winter right [21:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> They may. I doubt Bk 7 finished before Dec 21st [21:23] <Expelliarmas> It might be a red herring, but it made me nervous all the same [21:23] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [21:23] <Evreka> Exactly Theoriser [21:24] <JaneMarple9> I think so yes [21:24] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [21:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes. Southern Hemisphere opposite to Northern hemisphere [21:24] <CestlaVie> well Harry was born in the summer and Voldy in the winter... [21:24] <JaneMarple9> The prophecies must mean something [21:24] <adamgryff> back to how they are placed on the shelves could it be ones the DD has heard? [21:24] <JaneMarple9> and so was Neville...he was born in the summer [21:24] <DumbleDebbie> but Harry wasn't born near the solstice [21:24] <fawkes28> well they mean something but not necessarily for harry [21:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No Harry not born near solstice. Dudley was though [21:24] <CestlaVie> lol [21:24] <futureweasley> all Prophecies mean something...I just wonder if those 2 had anything to do with LV or Neville or Harry [21:25] <Evreka> lol [21:25] <CedrellaBlack> whens duds bday/ [21:25] <futureweasley> or Snape/Petunia [21:25] <adamgryff> no futrure [21:25] <Expelliarmas> he's like june something [21:25] <MrMcGonagall> Gasp1 [21:25] <fawkes28> lol you are lucky sooner is not here [21:25] <Evreka> A month before Harry's - roughly [21:25] <adamgryff> *future [21:25] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> June 23rd I heard [21:25] <DumbleDebbie> lol Future [21:25] <JaneMarple9> April Fools day for Dudleys birthday? [21:25] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Look on Lexicon [21:25] <DumbleDebbie> you're a little devil [21:25] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [21:25] <futureweasley> I've never denied it [21:25] <futureweasley> lol [21:25] <DumbleDebbie> lol [21:25] <Evreka> No, that's the twins b-day [21:26] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nope that was Gred and Forge. They have April 1st [21:26] <CestlaVie> lol [21:26] <DumbleDebbie> how appropriate [21:26] <Expelliarmas> OK, moving onto the Locked Room ... Why did Sirius's knife get destroyed when Harry tried to use it to open the Locked Door? [21:26] <CestlaVie> magic was extremely powerful [21:26] <Evreka> HOW do you get the smilies to appear? [21:26] <MrMcGonagall> Powerful magical protections. [21:26] <fawkes28> because a knife should never be used on love [21:26] <Inkreader13> there is a powerful curse on it [21:26] <DumbleDebbie> just type then in Evreka [21:26] <adamgryff> powerful magic [21:26] <CestlaVie> lol fawkes [21:26] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps it didn't want to be opened [21:26] <cloudpic> Yeah, why would love be so dangerous? [21:26] <DumbleDebbie> Love conquers all [21:26] <fawkes28> the room obviously cannot be forced into [21:26] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Depends if you know the codes [21:26] <Theoriser> you have to put a space before them Evreka [21:26] <Aislinn> Dumbledore tells us that the power in that room is the most powerful of all [21:26] <cloudpic> But destroys all? [21:26] <Evreka> I think it had a VERY powerfull lock [21:26] *** isa has joined #lounge [21:26] <JaneMarple9> but powerful magic over them yes [21:26] <CestlaVie> is it possible to get into the room? [21:26] <Aislinn> ooh, nicely put fawkes [21:27] <Theoriser> there must have been some spell put on it to make sure nobody got in [21:27] <DumbleDebbie> or disables all weapons [21:27] <Evreka> Thanks Theoriser smile [21:27] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not always. Transforms as well [21:27] <cloudpic> They lock away love but not death? [21:27] <cloudpic> That's odd. [21:27] <CestlaVie> good point [21:27] <MrMcGonagall> It's like using alohamora on a Gringott's security vault. Yeah, like that'll work! [21:27] <futureweasley> you can't force love...so you can't force the door...I like it Fawkes [21:27] <adamgryff> good point [21:27] <Inkreader13> love is harder to ger then death [21:27] <Expelliarmas> yes, that is odd cloudpic [21:27] <cloudpic> That is a good point [21:27] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, good one [21:27] <adamgryff> I think only a person with a pure heart could open the door. [21:27] <cloudpic> Can't force love [21:27] <Evreka> Nice one, Debbie! [21:27] <cloudpic> Harry has a pure heart! [21:27] <Evreka> and cp [21:27] <isa> but harry couldnt open it [21:27] <CestlaVie> Harry has a pure heart though [21:27] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> A knife couldn't do it [21:28] <fawkes28> and i do think harry will be able to get in because he is pure of heart and would use the room for good [21:28] <mollywobbles23> I couldn't find a quote about the orbs, but I know she's said something about them! [21:28] <adamgryff> not if Lv is in his mind [21:28] <CestlaVie> lol [21:28] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps the knife was too muggle-ish? [21:28] <DumbleDebbie> sounds like the Holy Grail from Inidana Jones, 'only those with a pure heart' [21:28] <Evreka> You can't force love to happen with violence? [21:28] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [21:28] <CestlaVie> lol dumbledebbie [21:28] <Expelliarmas> It's said that "love" is the force behind the door. What, exactly, is in there? [21:28] <DumbleDebbie> true Evreka [21:28] <MrMcGonagall> It's not something you can seize for yourself. [21:28] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Good point Ev [21:28] <futureweasley> he may have a pure heart, cloudpic, but he certainly does have a sneaky streak that I wouldn't exactly categorize as "ethical" [21:28] <cloudpic> Was this the place which is the place they study the "old magic" that Voldemort forgot? [21:28] <Theoriser> I think it's pretty obvious that it's love [21:28] <harryfreak359> That's kind of hard to answer [21:28] <isa> maybe [21:28] <CestlaVie> yes I think so clooudpic [21:28] <CedrellaBlack> maybe cp [21:28] <harryfreak359> love? [21:28] <Theoriser> I don't know what it is if it isn't love [21:28] <futureweasley> I think that there is a "utopia" behind the door [21:28] <cloudpic> Yeah... he can be sneaky...but his motives are pure. [21:28] <adamgryff> I agree cloudpic [21:28] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, I wan tto know more about the old magic [21:28] <mollywobbles23> Love [21:28] <CestlaVie> *cloudpic [21:29] <Expelliarmas> yes, but how is it locked up; is it tactile? [21:29] <Inkreader13> I think that whatever's in the room can't be seen [21:29] <JaneMarple9> I don't know whats before the door [21:29] <CedrellaBlack> love [21:29] <fawkes28> i actually do not think anything is in the room...i just think the feeling of love is in the room [21:29] <Evreka> I don't know.... [21:29] <Aislinn> oooh, FW, don't say things like that, that I can't respond to since its off topic! [21:29] <MrMcGonagall> I can feel the love in the room. . . [21:29] <CedrellaBlack> well i think that the emotions run so high in that room that they cant leave it unlocked [21:29] <Aislinn> lag, lag [21:29] <Expelliarmas> how do they lock up a feeling? [21:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not an object, a force [21:29] <cloudpic> How can love be "contained" in any way?? [21:29] <mollywobbles23> But, I don't know how love can be manifested in a physical way. I mean, the heart is a symbol of love, but it's not where love is kept. [21:29] <cloudpic> LOL expell [21:29] <fawkes28> that i don't know [21:29] <CedrellaBlack> gp molly [21:29] <JaneMarple9> Love can be hidden [21:29] <Evreka> But... When we love someone dearly we are prepaired to do all sorts of things on their behalf - even for dead ones [21:30] <DumbleDebbie> maybe there's some symbol of lvoe like the veil is a symbol of death [21:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> heart locked up? [21:30] <CestlaVie> if you can lock up your soul, then why can't you lock up your feelings? [21:30] <Theoriser> well they have time and space locked up in there, it's surely not so hard to get love there too [21:30] <DumbleDebbie> with power eminating from it [21:30] <cloudpic> Well, JKR showed us "thought" with those streamers going from the brain to the pensieve [21:30] <fawkes28> i just picture it empty with the strong emotion of love and those people who cannot love will not be able to stand to be in there [21:30] <Evreka> Maybe this strength is somehow studied there? [21:30] <CedrellaBlack> yepp i agree fawkes [21:30] <isa> maybe vlodemort has to be shoved in there [21:30] <CedrellaBlack> i think the room is empty [21:30] <DumbleDebbie> maybe it's a little baby [21:30] <CestlaVie> lol isa [21:30] <CedrellaBlack> interesting Dd [21:30] <Expelliarmas> but time and space are somehow represented physically, what do they do for love? A vase of roses? [21:30] <futureweasley> I think being in the room will have the opposite effect of a dementor...you will be filled with thoughts and feelings of perfect love and trust...the world in perfect harmony [21:30] <JaneMarple9> there might be SOMEBODY hidden in the locked room...sorry for caps [21:30] <MrMcGonagall> Build a trap door above the love chamber, and Harry can drop V through it. Hehe. [21:30] <DumbleDebbie> they can love unconditionallly and aren't all cynical like us old peeps ;) [21:31] <Evreka> but that doesn't apply to Harry fawkes [21:31] <cloudpic> I really Like that idea isa!! [21:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Maybe room has to be locked up so they can do other things. [21:31] <futureweasley> pushing LV into that room would be his demise, for sure [21:31] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Mr McG, pssst Voldy, follow me he hee hee [21:31] <Expelliarmas> lol MrMcG [21:31] <JaneMarple9> wizard [21:31] <cloudpic> Do Voldie in with Great Love! [21:31] <CedrellaBlack> maybe it will be an empty room with a rose like in beauty and the beast [21:31] <adamgryff> lol [21:31] <fawkes28> or maybe harry being in that room with strengthen the protection his mother gave him [21:31] <futureweasley> beauty and the beast...lol [21:31] <isa> oh! tyhats an idea [21:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nice image CB [21:31] <JaneMarple9> ah got the magic smilies cracked smile [21:31] <Expelliarmas> In what capacity will we see the Locked Room in Book 7? Will Harry find a way to enter this room? [21:31] <CedrellaBlack> thanks [21:32] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:32] <DumbleDebbie> maybe harry can focus the love power like a wand focusses magical power [21:32] <Inkreader13> maybe the room, like other magical things, will have something in it that you relate love with [21:32] <CestlaVie> when will Harry need to go back to the DoM [21:32] <JaneMarple9> Yes I think he will [21:32] <fawkes28> oh we need to visit that room [21:32] <CedrellaBlack> i think someone will open it for him [21:32] <Evreka> We'll see it - I'm sure of it [21:32] <adamgryff> I think it will be a big part of book 7 and harry will get into it [21:32] <harryfreak359> I think so, or at least I hope so [21:32] <CestlaVie> the feelings of Sirius' death will probably be too strong [21:32] <Inkreader13> yes he will, but I think it will happen by accident [21:32] <mollywobbles23> that's an idea, fawkes. Going further with that, maybe it strengthens anyone with love in them, but those without are left feeling void of anything. [21:32] <Evreka> Perhaps Voldemort will end up in it [21:32] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Maybe the right set of circumstances [21:32] <CedrellaBlack> an unspeakable will be like "hey wanna see this room?" lol [21:32] <futureweasley> he'll go to the door with the purest of intentions...and it will just open for him [21:32] <Evreka> locked up for good [21:32] <cloudpic> With all the uses we've seen for mirrors in the series...maybe looking in there with a mirror?? [21:32] <fawkes28> yes, future [21:32] <adamgryff> sorry, with the help of someone who is also very loving. Ginny [21:32] <CestlaVie> not sure about that one cloudpic [21:32] <Expelliarmas> we have to see it; DD kept telling Harry that's his geatest power [21:33] <DumbleDebbie> right Expie [21:33] <MrMcGonagall> Could it be the scene of the final confrontation? [21:33] <isa> maybe a mirror would reverse it...though thats random.... [21:33] <cloudpic> Oh...I like the idea that this is the way Ginny will contribute!! [21:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I reckon there will be mirrors in Bk 7 [21:33] <harryfreak359> I agree expel [21:33] <fawkes28> he does, expel [21:33] <cloudpic> Then he'll have to let her come along! [21:33] <JaneMarple9> Yes love is Harry's greatest asset...Lily died for Harry [21:33] <isa> yeah [21:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Mirror of Erised [21:33] <CestlaVie> hmmmm [21:33] <cloudpic> I just hope no one has to die for Harry to get in there [21:33] <Evreka> Maybe Harry can get deadly strength by sort of storing the love in that room and use it on LV? [21:33] <adamgryff> Ginny will be there with Harry [21:33] <CedrellaBlack> i think well see erised but not in the love room [21:34] <mollywobbles23> Care Bear stare [21:34] <mollywobbles23> (it had to be said) [21:34] <DumbleDebbie> lol molly [21:34] <CestlaVie> lol [21:34] <fawkes28> lol molly [21:34] <isa> lol [21:34] <adamgryff> lol [21:34] <sdcurtis> lol [21:34] <JaneMarple9> ooo Mirror of Erised! That might be in the locked room? [21:34] <cloudpic> ohoo molly [21:34] <Italianmom> isa, It could be like the last scene in Woman for Shanghi with all the mirrors. [21:34] <mollywobbles23> *grins* [21:34] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [21:34] <fawkes28> i sure that room will play a big part in voldemort's downfall [21:34] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think so jane [21:34] <harryfreak359> lol [21:34] <Expelliarmas> OK, so now we enter the Planet Room: The Planet Room has Lunascopes and a moving model of the solar system. Why do they need such a room in the Department of Mysteries? [21:34] <DumbleDebbie> I don't see a connection betwen the mirror and love [21:34] *** HPotterExpert2 has joined #lounge [21:34] <isa> ya...sry, never seen it [21:34] <HPotterExpert2> Hello guys! [21:35] <Evreka> I don't really have any ideas on that - I'm just curious [21:35] <DumbleDebbie> hi HP [21:35] <isa> hey [21:35] <harryfreak359> To study astrology and prophecies? [21:35] <mollywobbles23> I think it just so Ron could make the Uranus joke [21:35] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Deepest desire is love [21:35] <cloudpic> I would love to visit the Planet Room [21:35] <CestlaVie> maybe there are wizards who space travel [21:35] <futureweasley> I think it's to study the stars and the centaurs view on Divination [21:35] <mollywobbles23> hehe [21:35] <fawkes28> well they centaurs study the planets... [21:35] <HPotterExpert2> Hey FW! [21:35] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, fw. [21:35] <futureweasley> lol fawkes [21:35] <adamgryff> good point fawkes [21:35] <mollywobbles23> seriously, the study of the universe. [21:35] <fawkes28> so maybe humans are tryinf to do the same [21:35] <cloudpic> That must be where they study space rather than emotion, death or time! [21:35] <futureweasley> hi HPexpert! [21:35] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> planetarium [21:35] <JaneMarple9> to study the planets maybe [21:35] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [21:35] <DumbleDebbie> Put it with the time room and you have the myteries of time and space [21:35] <Expelliarmas> I wondered if the centaurs might not be more comfortable there, rather than wizards. [21:35] <JaneMarple9> and see what the Centaurs see [21:35] <HPotterExpert2> what are you guys talking about? [21:35] <CestlaVie> good one [21:35] <cloudpic> Sort of the Wizard version of physics and astronomy [21:35] <fawkes28> wb, aislinn [21:36] <Evreka> Well, they think Astronomy is important and Trelawney think it tells the future so it makes sense I think [21:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That is right expelliamus [21:36] <Aislinn> thanks! [21:36] <DumbleDebbie> maybe it's a representation of multiple dimensions? [21:36] <Italianmom> I think of the Dpt of Myst. as a wizard think tank. All things in the universe are part of what happens [21:36] <cloudpic> Difference between astrology and astronomy, though. [21:36] <adamgryff> maybe the wizards are trying to find out the centuars ways of preditction [21:36] <cloudpic> Big difference. [21:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Good point Italianmom [21:36] <Evreka> They study love, brains, time, death, and the possibility of knowing things ahead of time. Why not? [21:36] <CedrellaBlack> do you think theres a DoM at every MoM in the world? [21:36] <DumbleDebbie> yes cp there is [21:36] <sdcurtis> I think the planet room have to deal with Divination. However the Centaurs may not want to do it because they think wizards beneath them in that respect. [21:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> timetravel [21:37] <CestlaVie> what does timetravel have to do with space [21:37] <mollywobbles23> wormholes [21:37] <DumbleDebbie> that's what i was getting at Wagga, space/time continuum [21:37] <MrMcGonagall> All of the rooms in the DoM are basically about mysteries - something we know a little about, but have hardly exhausted. [21:37] <cloudpic> There's antigravity in there... or something that works like that...so this is the Wizard physics room [21:37] <Evreka> true cp, but in theory astrology is based on astronomy [21:37] <mollywobbles23> It's Einstein and very confusing [21:37] <CestlaVie> hmmm......... [21:37] <Expelliarmas> We see Luna Lovegood "weirded-out" for the first time? What in the Planet Room could make even Luna feel so awkward? [21:37] <fawkes28> maybe they are trying to discover other galzxies and planets and life on them like NASA [21:37] <DumbleDebbie> vertigo? [21:37] <mollywobbles23> *remembers Astronomy paper on theory of relativity and shudders* [21:37] <cloudpic> Or maybe especially Luna??? [21:37] <Expelliarmas> Luna weirded out, more so than usual that is [21:37] <fawkes28> the moon [21:37] <CestlaVie> luna [21:38] <Evreka> Too much science and too little flum? [21:38] <adamgryff> probably something she read in her dads paper [21:38] <Evreka> :p [21:38] <cloudpic> The others weren't as ... affected [21:38] <CestlaVie> lol [21:38] <JaneMarple9> Well if it was to do with divination why wasn't the prophecy kept in there? [21:38] <JaneMarple9> aftering hearing the voices in the veil? [21:38] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:38] <futureweasley> I think Luna's an alien...and she was experiencing deja vu [21:38] <cloudpic> I like that Evreka!! [21:38] <Italianmom> Luna is aware of things like what is behind the veil; she could be sympathetic to thins there [21:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Luna off the planet/ [21:38] <CedrellaBlack> interesting fawkes [21:38] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:38] <adamgryff> lol future [21:38] <DumbleDebbie> lol Future [21:38] <Theoriser> lol fw [21:38] <fawkes28> lol future [21:38] <CedrellaBlack> luna does mean moon...atleast in spanish it does maybe theres a connection? [21:38] <fawkes28> yes it means moon [21:38] <mollywobbles23> I think Luna is a medium, maybe, and doesn't know it. [21:38] <Inkreader13> luna is willing to look at the other side of things, so she may know more [21:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Could be [21:38] <JaneMarple9> Luna...the moon. good one smile [21:38] <isa> i thinks its just lunatic [21:39] <isa> but there could be a connection [21:39] <cloudpic> Awwww isa, poor Luna [21:39] <isa> lol [21:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Moonstruck [21:39] <Italianmom> Maybe she doesn't like astronamy [21:39] <CestlaVie> lol [21:39] <Evreka> mooncalf [21:39] <CedrellaBlack> or maybe shed never seen anything like it so it weirded her out [21:39] <mollywobbles23> Does anyone have a quote of her exact reaction? [21:39] <fawkes28> well she is a little "spacey" [21:39] <Expelliarmas> And here we are at the Time Room: Does it make any sense to you that the Time-Turners are all kept in one place? [21:39] <cloudpic> I like the idea that it's most scientific and she's least comfortable with that [21:39] <adamgryff> werewolf [21:39] <DumbleDebbie> lol fawkes [21:39] <Evreka> I think it makes sense [21:39] <CedrellaBlack> No it doesnt because if they all break no more time turners [21:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No. What if they all get broken? [21:39] *** HPotterExpert2 left #lounge [] [21:39] <Italianmom> each of the members of the DA reacted to different rooms; things were triggered [21:39] <Evreka> why not really? [21:40] <isa> molly i dunno where my book is...this is depressing [21:40] <harryfreak359> Yeah, I think so, it would make sense to have them together [21:40] <fawkes28> well it would make sense in order to control the use of them [21:40] <cloudpic> Why wouldn't they be? If it's a commonly "owned" device...sort of Government property [21:40] <Theoriser> I guess they could just "Reparo" them [21:40] <futureweasley> yes, the timeturners needed to be regulated...but I don't htink there was much thought of damage or theft [21:40] <DumbleDebbie> all the odd brains are all inone place [21:40] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think anyone would have anticipated all of them being destroyed. [21:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I wonder if one did survive that night [21:40] <Evreka> If it's so important to keep track of them, they ought to be stored in the same place alllof them [21:40] <adamgryff> It makes perfect sense to have them all together if you don't want them used. [21:40] <MrMcGonagall> And surely they will eventually be able to make more. [21:40] <CedrellaBlack> but i guess its like consequenses for your decisions...break the glass and no more times turners no more time travel [21:40] <fawkes28> if they let the timeturners in people's hands...that would be very bad [21:40] <Evreka> Odd though... [21:40] <MrMcGonagall> someone did it to begin with. [21:40] <DumbleDebbie> It seems to make sense they'd be in the same room [21:40] <fawkes28> not everyone is like dumbledore [21:40] <futureweasley> I think they may have been damaged beyond "reparo" Theoriser [21:40] <cloudpic> I'd like one. [21:40] <mollywobbles23> it's easier to guard something like that in one place rather than in many places. [21:40] <Evreka> that you can walk into that room but not the Love one [21:40] <isa> are there ways to make new iones? [21:40] <CedrellaBlack> i think its hardeer to "reparo" a time turener [21:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> What about one that was in use? [21:40] <DumbleDebbie> do other MoM's have timeturners or just the British one? [21:40] <cloudpic> True [21:40] <isa> **ones [21:41] * futureweasley owns a time turner [21:41] <futureweasley> too bad it doesn't work [21:41] <Italianmom> cloudpic: me too.lol [21:41] <cloudpic> Someone must have made the others [21:41] <isa> lol [21:41] <Expelliarmas> well, no one knows how to use the brains, but the TTs could lead to all sorts of problems if stolen. [21:41] <MrMcGonagall> lol, fw [21:41] * fawkes28 now glad she is friends with future [21:41] <Evreka> lol future [21:41] <CedrellaBlack> lol future...snagged one before they broke? [21:42] *** sdcurtis has quit [Bye] [21:42] <futureweasley> no, I got it as a birthday gift [21:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione returned hers [21:42] <mollywobbles23> I think they can make others, but it will take a long time. [21:42] <DumbleDebbie> next year's b-day gift ;) [21:42] <CedrellaBlack> how many unspeakables are you friends with? [21:42] <mollywobbles23> pun intended [21:42] <Evreka> Maybe you can offer your sevices to the MoM and offer to make more for them... laugh [21:42] <Italianmom> why does Jo have so much destruction in such an important place? [21:42] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [21:42] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [21:42] <Expelliarmas> Did all of the Time-Turners really get destroyed? [21:42] <cloudpic> LOL molly! [21:42] <MrMcGonagall> It seems odd that they would keep something so functional in the DoM. They already know how TTs work. [21:42] <CedrellaBlack> yes i think they all were destroyed [21:42] <adamgryff> I think they did [21:42] <DumbleDebbie> I don't know [21:42] <isa> i think so, there's the hermione's right theory, she said it [21:42] <cloudpic> Well, some might have been out being used as Hermione's had been... [21:43] <Evreka> I don't think so [21:43] <fawkes28> yes, i think jkr did it for storyline purposes so we all don't sit here and have a chat about it [21:43] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione said so in HBP. She told Hagrid [21:43] <CestlaVie> in England maybbe [21:43] <futureweasley> I think McGonagall still has hers...but I hope it doesn't play into book 7 [21:43] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [21:43] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo was trying to crush wild TT theories once and for all. [21:43] <CedrellaBlack> McG had one? [21:43] <mollywobbles23> I think they were. I personally don't want to see any more time travel if they weren't. It's been done. [21:43] <adamgryff> we don't have time for timeturners in book 7 [21:43] <Aislinn> I think they were studying the concept of time mr mcg, and the time turners were part of it [21:43] <Inkreader13> I think there has to be at least one left and it will be used by someone important [21:43] <DumbleDebbie> was that *her* though FW or just borrowed from the MoM? [21:43] <cloudpic> Was that McGonagall's or did she just obtain it for Hermione's use? [21:43] <futureweasley> yes, she let Hermione borrow it in PoA [21:43] <Italianmom> yes, Hermoine gives the TT back to McG. [21:43] <Expelliarmas> I think so too MrMcG [21:43] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes the TT had served it's purpose [21:43] <fawkes28> no i think they are all gone [21:43] <Aislinn> I think that they could come into play again [21:43] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:43] <cloudpic> Maybe that'll be Hermoine's special effort in hoarcrux hunting?? [21:44] <futureweasley> It could...I just hope it doesn't [21:44] <isa> but if ther're some at other MoM's [21:44] <fawkes28> i vote "dead" lol [21:44] <CedrellaBlack> i thought McG didnt own it she got it from the ministry i guess i didnt read it well enough [21:44] <futureweasley> it's too convenient. [21:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Like the cassette recorder I got my daughter when she had to be at two different places at the one time [21:44] <mollywobbles23> lol fawkes [21:44] <Evreka> I think they know how to make then anyway so it's a moot point whether all was destroyed or not... [21:44] <Expelliarmas> What was significant about the Hummingbird/Egg in the Bell Jar? [21:44] <Aislinn> I thought so too ced [21:44] <sdcurtis> Time turner's make the plot more complex than it needs to be [21:44] <futureweasley> Time Turners...dead. Very good, Fawkes [21:44] <MrMcGonagall> Hermione does make reference to all the letters McG had to write to the Ministry. [21:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Perpetual motion? [21:44] <CestlaVie> time [21:44] <fawkes28> hf, might thinj half-dead though [21:44] <fawkes28> *think [21:44] <DumbleDebbie> I thnk it was to show us what the room was all about [21:45] <Evreka> Trapped time, flowing forwards and backwards [21:45] <cloudpic> Why are there clocks in the Time turner room? [21:45] <DumbleDebbie> and that the travel could be forward or backward [21:45] <CedrellaBlack> what exactly is a bell jar? [21:45] <Evreka> Perhaps that used somehow to make TT's [21:45] <futureweasley> yes, I think it shows us that time is relative [21:45] <MrMcGonagall> Interesting that it goes back to gestation. [21:45] *** isa has quit [Bye] [21:45] <CestlaVie> the belljar and time turners were in the same room to show us about time [21:45] <DumbleDebbie> glass jar, shaped like a bell CB [21:45] <adamgryff> maybe its what they use to make the TT [21:45] <Italianmom> If one is messing about with time, one must keep track in some sort of way. [21:45] <Theoriser> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next P3 chat, here: http://www.leakylounge.com/Vote-Weeks-P3-Chat-Topi-t33930.html [21:45] <Aislinn> the mystery of time and its effect on living things [21:45] <fawkes28> speaking of time [21:46] <fawkes28> it flies [21:46] <CedrellaBlack> ohhh like the kar the rose in beauty and he beast was in? [21:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> a huge jar shaped like a bell [21:46] <CestlaVie> lol [21:46] <futureweasley> yes it does...always [21:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> How neat. We talk about TT [21:46] <Italianmom> Also the room is all about time; so timepieces are important to have. Maybe there are timezones [21:46] <Expelliarmas> Whatever happened to the baby-headed Death Eater? [21:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> There certainly are. I've only just got up [21:46] <Evreka> What about the tank where the DE was getting young and older again? [21:46] <fawkes28> i'm thinking st. mungos [21:46] <CestlaVie> he got fixed? [21:46] <Italianmom> i hope it died died died [21:46] <CestlaVie> lol [21:46] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [21:46] <Evreka> Was it in the bell yar? [21:46] <DumbleDebbie> hey Future, turn that timetuner back a revolution for us, will you? ;) [21:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> And it is a public holiday or I'd be going to work [21:46] <adamgryff> hes drinking milk from a bottle [21:47] <fawkes28> lol [21:47] <CestlaVie> lol [21:47] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [21:47] <futureweasley> it would be awesome if I could, Debbie [21:47] <Evreka> I suppose they stuck his head back into it, and had him get his own head back [21:47] <CedrellaBlack> sprry about all the beauty and the beast references today =] [21:47] <DumbleDebbie> :D [21:47] *** sdcurtis left #lounge [] [21:47] <mollywobbles23> have we talked about all the rooms? [21:47] <Expelliarmas> could he be "cured" or was he just stuck that way forever? [21:47] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Someone will fix the baby-headed DE up [21:47] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:47] <CestlaVie> just stick his head back [21:47] <Theoriser> Voldemort could probably fix him [21:47] <MrMcGonagall> A localized Aging cream. [21:47] <Evreka> Exactle ClV [21:47] <CedrellaBlack> he would have to put his head back in [21:47] <JaneMarple9> Corner booth doesn't like me today sad [21:47] <mollywobbles23> Voldemort wouldn't care [21:48] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr McG [21:48] <fawkes28> nah voldemort would prob kill him for being stupid [21:48] <CedrellaBlack> and take it out when it was right [21:48] <adamgryff> would voldemort be the caring to do that theoriser [21:48] <Italianmom> Well, considering the DE were all caught, I'm thinking he was fixed and sent to Azkaban [21:48] <DumbleDebbie> we like you Jane !!! [21:48] <futureweasley> lol fawkes [21:48] <JaneMarple9> Where are we now? [21:48] <cloudpic> Don't be sorry, Cedrella.... connections between stories are interesting [21:48] <Inkreader13> he went to st. mungos and then to azakban [21:48] <futureweasley> he might be in St Mungos [21:48] <Italianmom> maybe they fixed him good [21:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> DE's babyish? [21:48] <Expelliarmas> If it was left to me, I'd misplace the cure [21:48] <futureweasley> then azkaban [21:48] <DumbleDebbie> don't let the technology get ya down biggrin [21:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Stuck in childhood? [21:48] <CedrellaBlack> corner booth doesnt like me either funny out if you abbreviate my and and the Corner Booth its the same [21:48] <mollywobbles23> His new name is Babyface Nelson [21:48] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:48] <Evreka> lol Exp [21:48] <cloudpic> Yes, Jane...it is running verry slowly for me too [21:48] <MrMcGonagall> I think they fixed him up at St. Mungo's and then carted him off to the big house. [21:48] *** littleangelbean has joined #lounge [21:48] <JaneMarple9> smile I know you all do! Silly comp biggrin [21:48] <CestlaVie> lol [21:48] <DumbleDebbie> lol molly [21:48] <CedrellaBlack> lol molly [21:49] <adamgryff> lol molly [21:49] <fawkes28> the corner booth loves us except our computers don't always love it! [21:49] <JaneMarple9> who got carted to st mungos? [21:49] <CedrellaBlack> lol fawkes [21:49] <Theoriser> hi littleangel bean smile [21:49] <MrMcGonagall> the baby-headed DE [21:49] <DumbleDebbie> Babyface DE [21:49] <Expelliarmas> Will time factor at all in book 7? [21:49] <cloudpic> The Big House, Mr.McG...LOL! [21:49] <futureweasley> yeah, Corner Booth is a love word!! [21:49] <Italianmom> the death eater who kept turning into a baby [21:49] <CedrellaBlack> i dot think so [21:49] *** harrmione55 has joined #lounge [21:49] <fawkes28> no i think time is over and done with [21:49] <futureweasley> I think Time will be a factor in book 7 [21:49] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Can't remember his name. Think it started with J [21:49] <CestlaVie> I don't think that time will play a huge role [21:49] <CedrellaBlack> i think book 7 is more about love [21:49] <fawkes28> because we cant keep changing the past [21:49] <adamgryff> i think we are done with time [21:49] <JaneMarple9> right...strange thing that...maybe I found that the most frightening [21:49] <Inkreader13> Yes. [21:49] <DumbleDebbie> a time for war, a time for peace, a time to live, a time to die (Voldy) [21:49] <MrMcGonagall> I don't really think it will figure significantly into Book 7. [21:49] <cloudpic> I thought it was neat that Hermoine didn't want the baby killed or hurt! [21:50] <futureweasley> Time is always against them...they will rush and probably make mistakes [21:50] <CedrellaBlack> lol DD [21:50] <fawkes28> love is more important right now than time [21:50] <harryfreak359> I think it might have some signifigance, but I think love will mostly be focused on [21:50] <MrMcGonagall> not in the sense that it will need to be manipulated. [21:50] <DumbleDebbie> rght Mr McG [21:50] <JaneMarple9> time may be important but love is be crucial in book 7 [21:50] <adamgryff> agree Mr.McG [21:50] <cloudpic> I think lots of action will take place in the Dept. of Mysteries...why else would she introduce it? [21:50] <Italianmom> Book 7 will be about completion. [21:50] <fawkes28> right, cloudpic [21:50] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes. Temperance, Prudence, Justice, Courage, Faith, Hope and Charity [21:50] <futureweasley> time to be done [21:50] <futureweasley> lol [21:50] <CestlaVie> I don't think the DoM will be that important [21:50] <JaneMarple9> yes cloud I agree [21:50] <futureweasley> I don't want it to be done!! [21:50] <Evreka> I don't know... Jo said that she wished she did a few things different in earlier books [21:50] <cloudpic> Nor do I. [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> time is too confusing [21:51] <harrmione55> I think bk 7 will about the revelation of all HP powers [21:51] <cloudpic> sniff [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> ill be glad if its done [21:51] <harryfreak359> Do any of us, Future? [21:51] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [21:51] <DumbleDebbie> I know FW sad [21:51] <littleangelbean> hullo smile [21:51] <littleangelbean> why arent my posts showing? [21:51] *** littleangelbean has quit [Bye] [21:51] *** littleangelbean has joined #lounge [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> im glad lol [21:51] <MrMcGonagall> I'm sure we'll be back there again, but I don't know that we'll spend a lot of time there. [21:51] <Evreka> would have made it easier now... perhaps one more time travel is comming? [21:51] <Italianmom> The return to Godrick Hollow will be a step back to get to the present and the end. [21:51] <Inkreader13> it's the final countdown [21:51] <littleangelbean> my posts weren't showing up [21:51] <harryfreak359> I see you littleangeelbean! [21:51] <cloudpic> Patience angelbean [21:51] <littleangelbean> ah ok, sorry [21:51] <CestlaVie> lol [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> i was like really confused at the end of PoA becuase to me it seemed like a never ending circle [21:51] *** Italianmom has quit [Bye] [21:51] <JaneMarple9> I want Harry Potter books to carry on forever...or at least more than book 7! Book 10 should satisfy us [21:51] <littleangelbean> yes, it's not one of MY virtues [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> i hate time travel [21:51] <CedrellaBlack> =] [21:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not really. [21:51] <adamgryff> lol jane [21:52] <MrMcGonagall> I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing any more time travel. [21:52] <Evreka> I like it. smile [21:52] <harryfreak359> lol Jane [21:52] <MrMcGonagall> not in the TT sense. [21:52] <DumbleDebbie> I'd like a History of Hogwarts biggrin [21:52] <harrmione55> i love it [21:52] <CedrellaBlack> me too DD [21:52] <fawkes28> me too debbie [21:52] <Evreka> I don't think so, but it's possible [21:52] <mollywobbles23> I love time travel, though sometimes logic ruins my enjoyment of movies like The Lakehouse [21:52] <adamgryff> me too debbie [21:52] <littleangelbean> I don;t like the idea that the last book is supposed to be shorter than the last [21:52] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [21:52] <JaneMarple9> Be good if any time turners have survived? [21:52] <futureweasley> The Time Room is full of desks...was it used as a classroom? If so, what was taught there? [21:52] <cloudpic> Oh, me too, DumbleDebbie! I'd read it! [21:52] <CedrellaBlack> i want to see so many books that she mentions [21:52] <harrmione55> it just shows how hermione earned it [21:52] <harryfreak359> I'd like a Guide to the Department of mysteries [21:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Buckbeak was mythical so vanished. Harry found inner resources and Sirius melted away [21:52] <Evreka> A LOT more tha Hermione would read that book LOL [21:52] <CedrellaBlack> ahahaaa rofl hf [21:52] <cloudpic> And clocks on all the desks [21:52] <mollywobbles23> I thought of them as work desks, not school desks [21:52] <fawkes28> perhaps it used to be studied by students [21:52] <fawkes28> or aurors [21:52] <harryfreak359> me too molly [21:53] <CestlaVie> or unspeakables [21:53] <Inkreader13> no I think the desks were just used to study time [21:53] <mollywobbles23> Only Unspeakables are allowed in the DoM [21:53] <futureweasley> it could have been the staging room for examinations [21:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Time for lessons [21:53] <JaneMarple9> yes perhaps aurors did their exams? [21:53] <adamgryff> maybe going back to when the other people who worked there, could help with information [21:53] <harrmione55> buckbeak and sirius will appear again in bk 7 acc. to JK and even sirius's bike will appear [21:53] <mollywobbles23> It's all redtape [21:53] <futureweasley> I know that itmme is always against me when I'm taking exams [21:53] <MrMcGonagall> A practice room for hogwarts students issued TTs. [21:53] <MrMcGonagall> Hehe. [21:53] <futureweasley> *time [21:53] <DumbleDebbie> could they use the bell jar to study development at an accelerated rate? [21:53] <CedrellaBlack> time to Study time [21:53] <CestlaVie> lol [21:53] <littleangelbean> is that fact harrmione? [21:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Time room for recording. [21:53] <mollywobbles23> Did she say Sirius will appear again? I know she's said something about his bike. [21:53] <JaneMarple9> ooo Siriuis's bike smile can't wait to hear about that [21:53] <cloudpic> I thought the Bell jar was the enclosure which had captured time in a loop [21:53] <harrmione55> i read it in one of jk intervdiew [21:53] <DumbleDebbie> or to age things to see how they'll hold up over time? [21:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> History written [21:54] <futureweasley> it was the MoM's filk recording studio? [21:54] <Evreka> I don't think so, but perhaps to study how we learn at different ages? [21:54] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, future! [21:54] <fawkes28> lol [21:54] <CedrellaBlack> yepp CP [21:54] <adamgryff> lol future [21:54] <Theoriser> lol fw [21:54] <Aislinn> I think so too, cloudpic [21:54] <harrmione55> bk 7 will even discuss about DD family [21:54] <littleangelbean> I thought on JKR she said that Sirius is DEF gone [21:54] <mollywobbles23> me too [21:54] * fawkes28 thinks we need to hear that filk soon [21:54] *** Expelliarmas has quit [Bye] [21:54] <Evreka> yeah molly [21:54] <littleangelbean> won't be back....dead....but maybe i misread [21:54] <futureweasley> Department of Mysteries...live or die? [21:54] <JaneMarple9> ah but his bike will return smile [21:54] <harryfreak359> LIVE! [21:54] <MrMcGonagall> Live [21:54] <littleangelbean> lol [21:54] <fawkes28> live!! [21:54] <Aislinn> lol [21:54] <cloudpic> Live! [21:54] <CedrellaBlack> LIVE!!! [21:54] <adamgryff> live [21:54] <Inkreader13> LIVE! [21:54] <fawkes28> good job, hf! [21:54] <mollywobbles23> live [21:54] <Evreka> Sorry what do you mean? [21:54] <cloudpic> LOL [21:54] <mollywobbles23> lol [21:54] <Aislinn> It will be a big part of the final book [21:54] <harryfreak359> LOL [21:55] <DumbleDebbie> Sirius is dead, but he'll be heard from (or something liek that) [21:55] <Theoriser> live! [21:55] <futureweasley> I'm so proud of my ickle harryfreak [21:55] <JaneMarple9> DoM's will return again in book seven so live [21:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It is now 6.55 am so I'd better get up properly [21:55] <MrMcGonagall> Of course, like Voldemort, how do you kill something that's not really alive? smile [21:55] <cloudpic> Very big part! [21:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> So bye everyone [21:55] <Evreka> oh, well I think we'll see it [21:55] <littleangelbean> of course I would love for him to be alive, but JKR said he is gone [21:55] <Aislinn> evreka - it is a traditional question asked at the end of all of these chats [21:55] <harryfreak359> See, Future, I can pick a side! [21:55] <CedrellaBlack> bye WWW [21:55] <fawkes28> well we asked that about hogwarts too [21:55] <DumbleDebbie> live [21:55] <mollywobbles23> goodness, where are you Wagga? [21:55] <littleangelbean> I agreeDumbleDeb [21:55] <harryfreak359> bye [21:55] <Evreka> Oh, I see... [21:55] <futureweasley> I think the whole MoM might burn to the ground...do I say "die" [21:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Australia [21:55] <adamgryff> live [21:55] <fawkes28> you get a star, hf! smile [21:55] <CedrellaBlack> noooo fw [21:55] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:55] <futureweasley> great chat everyone! [21:55] <harryfreak359> lol [21:55] * futureweasley gears up for the group hug!! [21:56] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:56] <fawkes28> you are playing devil's advocate, future [21:56] <cloudpic> Must go....Great chat! You guys are brilliant (to quote a dear red-head!) [21:56] <mollywobbles23> so, it's Monday there. Speaking of time: it's so weird! [21:56] <Theoriser> it went by way too fast! [21:56] <MrMcGonagall> Stretch those arms! [21:56] <Aislinn> its under the ground FW [21:56] <Aislinn> biggrin [21:56] * fawkes28 prepares to be squeezed [21:56] * harryfreak359 hugs everyone [21:56] * JaneMarple9 gets ready for the hugs! [21:56] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [21:56] <Evreka> *me too [21:56] <harrmione55> love u all people and may u all have a good day [21:56] <futureweasley> isn't that foreshadowing Aislinn? [21:56] <Inkreader13> yay for hugs. I feel loved [21:56] <CestlaVie> later guys [21:56] * CedrellaBlack gets ready for hug too =] [21:56] * DumbleDebbie hugs everyone [21:56] *** CestlaVie has quit [Bye] [21:56] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:56] <harryfreak359> I think that it would be protected from burning down by magic [21:56] * Aislinn hugs all [21:56] <Evreka> See you later everyone [21:56] <MrMcGonagall> I can still feel the love in the room. [21:56] * fawkes28 is suffocating...loosen up all! [21:56] <Evreka> lol [21:56] <fawkes28> :) [21:56] <Aislinn> lol FW [21:56] <adamgryff> have a great day guys! [21:56] <harryfreak359> lol [21:56] * futureweasley gives MrMcG an extra squeeze, because he deserves it today [21:57] * JaneMarple9 hugs all and will be back next weekend! [21:57] <Aislinn> great chat everybody! [21:57] <CedrellaBlack> there must be some kind of protection on it to keep somthing like fire from burning it down [21:57] <Inkreader13> OMG! We're in the love room! yes [21:57] <littleangelbean> lol...i missed the whole thing [21:57] <mollywobbles23> teehee [21:57] <fawkes28> lol [21:57] *** littleangelbean has quit [Bye] [21:57] <harryfreak359> whooo! fun chat! [21:57] <DumbleDebbie> see fawkes, love is powerful [21:57] *** adamgryff left #lounge [] [21:57] <JaneMarple9> great chat...found out more today about the DoM [21:57] <CedrellaBlack> funfun =] [21:57] <futureweasley> this is a G-rated love room...thanks! [21:57] <Evreka> been there done that smile [21:57] <futureweasley> lol [21:57] <Aislinn> wish I could have been here for the end of it - dang computer [21:57] <fawkes28> three minutes [21:57] <CedrellaBlack> even though i was writing a paper through most of it [21:57] <mollywobbles23> These chats always fly by. [21:57] <fawkes28> hehe [21:57] <Inkreader13> bye all [21:57] *** Inkreader13 has quit [Bye] [21:57] <harryfreak359> My computer behaved perfectly today [21:57] <JaneMarple9> they do. Good fun though [21:57] <Evreka> hugs everyone [21:57] <CedrellaBlack> lucky hf [21:57] <futureweasley> bye guys [21:57] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, everyone! [21:57] <harryfreak359> how strange [21:57] <CedrellaBlack> mine was dumb This post has been edited by Theoriser: Oct 2 2006, 04:27 AM |
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Knockturn Alley Fingernail Vendor Posts: 793 Joined: 10:44am September 2, 2005 Location: Buried under a mountain of homework |
[21:57] <mollywobbles23> I guess I should go pretend to be a student. It's a good thing I don't have class on Mondays.
[21:58] <CedrellaBlack> it kept messing up [21:58] <DumbleDebbie> that's good HF [21:58] <harryfreak359> bye!!!! [21:58] <futureweasley> today was fun [21:58] <fawkes28> lol, hf [21:58] <futureweasley> thanks for chatting! [21:58] <harryfreak359> lol [21:58] *** stein88 has joined #lounge [21:58] <mollywobbles23> *huggles* [21:58] <Theoriser> today was such a good chat! [21:58] <Aislinn> see you all at the next chat! [21:58] <fawkes28> yes no crazy arguments! [21:58] <JaneMarple9> lucky hf smile kept telling me I was already in here! [21:58] <Theoriser> bye everyone [21:58] <harryfreak359> thanks everyone for a great chat! [21:58] <Evreka> Yep! [21:58] <futureweasley> check out the filkcast! [21:58] <Evreka> bye [21:58] <mollywobbles23> when's the next chat? Wed? [21:58] <harryfreak359> I hate that Jane [21:58] <futureweasley> you might hear us crazy mods [21:58] <CedrellaBlack> does anyone oknow when the filkcastmis coming out? [21:58] <fawkes28> yes, thanks for the chat mods! [21:58] <DumbleDebbie> good chatting smile [21:58] <harryfreak359> lol [21:58] <Aislinn> tomorrow, and PC chat [21:58] * JaneMarple9 waves to everybody [21:58] <CedrellaBlack> whooo =] [21:58] <fawkes28> you are awesome smile [21:58] <mollywobbles23> groovy [21:58] <fawkes28> woo hoo! [21:59] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:59] * harryfreak359 give everyone one last hug [21:59] <futureweasley> thank you fawkes!! you rock my socks! [21:59] *** MrMcGonagall left #lounge [] [21:59] <futureweasley> whoo hoo! [21:59] <fawkes28> bye bye smile [21:59] <Evreka> That's too late for me [21:59] <CedrellaBlack> lol [21:59] <DumbleDebbie> good job Future thumbup [21:59] <Evreka> Bye [21:59] <CedrellaBlack> bye everyone amazingg chat =] [21:59] <futureweasley> thanks Debbie...you too! [21:59] <DumbleDebbie> bye Evreka! [21:59] <harryfreak359> bye all!!! [21:59] *** Evreka has quit [Bye] [21:59] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [21:59] <mollywobbles23> later, everyone! [21:59] *** mollywobbles23 left #lounge [] [21:59] *** stein88 left #lounge [] [21:59] <futureweasley> bye molly [21:59] <DumbleDebbie> with the questions [21:59] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [22:00] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [22:00] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [22:00] <futureweasley> good job with the answers! [22:00] <futureweasley> :wink: [22:00] *** harrmione55 has quit [Bye] [22:00] <futureweasley> wagga? [22:00] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has quit [Bye] This post has been edited by Aislinn: Oct 15 2006, 01:13 PM |
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