P3 Chat Transcript for Nov. 19, 2006, Magical Creatures and their role in Book 7 |
 Nov 19 2006, 05:35 PM
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] *** Snuffles changed the topic to: Magical Creatures (Aislinn) [14:59] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [14:59] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:00] <JaneMarple9> Hello there Aislin Expel and Harryfreak smile [15:00] <harryfreak359> hey everyone! [15:00] <JaneMarple9> Nice and busy at the moment biggrin [15:00] <harryfreak359> lol yes [15:00] <Aislinn> good afternoon! [15:01] *** Alexk has joined #lounge [15:01] <harryfreak359> I am so excited that we are finally discussing critters! [15:01] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:01] <Aislinn> so is fawkes! [15:01] <Alexk> hi everyone! [15:01] <fawkes28> sooooo excited!!!! [15:01] <harryfreak359> lol yes I know [15:01] <fawkes28> woo hoo for critters!! [15:01] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [15:02] <Alexk> excited about what? [15:02] <JaneMarple9> hello Fawkes smile and Alexk [15:02] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 fawkes? smile [15:02] <Alexk> oh critters [15:02] <harryfreak359> Woot! for Critters...they deserve a woot fawkes [15:02] <harryfreak359> hi Mr.McG! [15:02] <fawkes28> ok ok [15:02] <JaneMarple9> so many critters to discuss too smile [15:02] <fawkes28> but before lots of people get here! [15:02] * MrMcGonagall carefully parks the Knight Bus of Death so as to protect roaming critters. [15:02] <harryfreak359> w00t2 [15:02] <fawkes28> WOOT for critters!!!!! [15:02] <JaneMarple9> Hi Mr McGonnagal [15:03] <harryfreak359> LOL Mr.M [15:03] <harryfreak359> good for you fawkes! [15:03] <fawkes28> hehe ok that's all now smile [15:03] <MrMcGonagall> Happy Flobberworm Appreciation Day, everyone! [15:03] <fawkes28> thanks for parking the bus, mr. m. [15:03] <harryfreak359> lol [15:03] <Alexk> cheers [15:03] <Aislinn> yes, we wouldn't want to hurt any ickle creatures! [15:03] <JaneMarple9> biggrin that's a new one...flobberworm appreciation day [15:04] *** dompeldoriss_favourite has joined #lounge [15:04] <JaneMarple9> I thought it was offical "Trevor" day smile [15:04] <fawkes28> ickle? oh that makes them sound bad [15:04] <JaneMarple9> hi there dompeldorriss [15:04] <harryfreak359> Hi DD_fav [15:04] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:04] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Sooner! [15:04] <harryfreak359> Sooner! [15:05] <Alexk> hi sooner [15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> hey everyone [15:05] <JaneMarple9> Hi Sonner good to see you! smile [15:05] <fawkes28> hi sooner and dompel [15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> good to see everyone [15:05] <JaneMarple9> Sooner* too! [15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> Mr M, I just have to say that I almost died when I saw that avatar laugh [15:05] <harryfreak359> lol [15:05] <MrMcGonagall> Don't worry, Sooner, the Knight Bus of Death is parked and not in gear for the chat today. [15:05] <harryfreak359> me as well [15:05] <Expelliarmas> heya, Peepers [15:05] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:05] <harryfreak359> hey expie [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I was on the phone with my mom whenever I saw it. Now she thinks I'm even more mental [15:06] <JaneMarple9> great avater Mr McGonagall smile [15:06] <dompeldoriss_favourite> hey guys! I"m a little new to this sorry [15:06] <harryfreak359> lol Sooner [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> its all good dompel, we'll help you through it [15:06] *** SevenofNine has joined #lounge [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> hi seven [15:06] <harryfreak359> hi 7of9 [15:06] <JaneMarple9> hi 7of9 [15:06] <fawkes28> mr. m, the avatar was perfect [15:06] <fawkes28> hi t of 9 [15:06] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Thanks Sooner! [15:06] <fawkes28> *7 [15:06] <Alexk> hi 7 [15:06] <harryfreak359> it was, it truly was [15:07] <dompeldoriss_favourite> how do I change my text colour? [15:07] <MrMcGonagall> I had fun working on it. [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> the arrow buttons in the bottom right [15:07] <JaneMarple9> click on the >> at the side [15:07] <harryfreak359> the arrows << on the right side [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> click on them and then pick your color [15:07] <Aislinn> over to the right of where you type [15:07] <JaneMarple9> no bold allowed though [15:07] <fawkes28> we love using color in here [15:07] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [15:07] <dompeldoriss_favourite> oh thanks! [15:07] <Alexk> click the >> button [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> but don't pick beige... laugh [15:07] <harryfreak359> lol [15:07] <MrMcGonagall> It does help keep track of who's saying what. [15:07] <harryfreak359> yes [15:07] <Alexk> lol [15:07] <JaneMarple9> we're a bright bunch in the coner booth smile [15:07] <harryfreak359> but we need more colors [15:07] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I see... [15:08] <dompeldoriss_favourite> lol [15:08] <Expelliarmas> yes, we do [15:08] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Anyway so... what happens next [15:08] <miss_danielle> hi everyone [15:08] <harryfreak359> I'd still pick greeen though... [15:08] <harryfreak359> green* [15:08] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Green [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> just make sure that you pay attention to the announcements we make at 15 after [15:08] <dompeldoriss_favourite> is my fav colour [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> we have some rules, but I promise they are not hard to follow [15:09] <harryfreak359> mine too [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> just let us ask the questions and stay on topic and we will all get along fine [15:09] *** MinervasPetCat has joined #lounge [15:09] <MrMcGonagall> I always wind up picking the drab olive color because no one else seems to like it! [15:09] <dompeldoriss_favourite> That's cool Harryfreak o.k so when do the questions start? [15:09] <Alexk> hi Minerva [15:10] <MinervasPetCat> hey alex1 [15:10] <harryfreak359> hi minerva [15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> Expie will be the person doing the questions today [15:10] <Alexk> 15 after dompel [15:10] <JaneMarple9> still not calmed down after the movie corner booth yesterday! Can't believe how good iit was w00t2 [15:10] *** MafaldaWeasley has joined #lounge [15:10] <fawkes28> so who else is very excited??? [15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> it was so great, wasn;t it Jane [15:10] <SevenofNine> Wow, took forever for this to come up. [15:10] <harryfreak359> w00t2 [15:10] <dompeldoriss_favourite> ME!!!! [15:10] <Alexk> lol [15:10] <SevenofNine> Hi everyone. [15:10] <Aislinn> gllad you had fun Jane smile [15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> good to see you here seven [15:10] <fawkes28> woo hoo [15:10] <Aislinn> hey seven [15:10] <dompeldoriss_favourite> :excited: [15:10] <harryfreak359> I am sorry I missed it yesterday [15:10] <MafaldaWeasley> hello everyone [15:10] <dompeldoriss_favourite> me too [15:10] <SoonerGryffindor> put a space before the emoticons [15:11] <JaneMarple9> it was fascinating, everyone watching the film [15:11] <harryfreak359> you need to put a space before the code [15:11] <Aislinn> you need to put a space in front of the emoticon dompel [15:11] * Expelliarmas passes around an assortment of caffeine-free beverages [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> that;s the only way they will work here [15:11] <MinervasPetCat> hi harryfreak sorry i just saw your greeting now [15:11] <Aislinn> lol [15:11] <Aislinn> echo [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [15:11] <harryfreak359> lol [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> we want lots of caffeine [15:11] <miss_danielle> lol [15:11] <dompeldoriss_favourite> oh sorry let me try again w00t2 [15:11] <Expelliarmas> not for this group, Sooner [15:11] <fawkes28> lol expie, why can't i have any caffeine?? [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> hahaha [15:11] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, I need to put the kettle on. [15:11] <harryfreak359> lol [15:11] <Alexk> *throws cans of sobe to everyone* [15:11] <Aislinn> no, caffeine might be dangerous [15:11] <Alexk> energy drinks all around [15:11] * JaneMarple9 applaudes dompeldoriss smile [15:12] <Expelliarmas> fawkes needs to step away from the caffeine and leave the cup on the table [15:12] <harryfreak359> yes it might [15:12] <Alexk> lol [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> nah, the walls in here are padded [15:12] <dompeldoriss_favourite> coffee or tea what do you guys prefer? [15:12] <SevenofNine> I just need a cough suppressant [15:12] <fawkes28> hehe [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> :coffee: [15:12] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Thanks Jane [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> aw man, that one doesnt work here and I keep forgetting [15:12] * Expelliarmas rummages about for dayquil [15:12] <MrMcGonagall> I'm seeing lots of "excited" emoticons today! [15:12] <JaneMarple9> :excited: [15:12] <Alexk> don't waste your urge for caffeine on coffee, drink lots of soda, it's good for you [15:12] <fawkes28> dayquil? oh no [15:12] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 [15:12] <harryfreak359> lol [15:12] <fawkes28> i solemnly swear i have not tried to get people excited at all [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> coffee is a staple in my house [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> :excited: [15:13] <SevenofNine> good thing I'm typing and not talking. LOL [15:13] <MrMcGonagall> I'm brewing up some Earl Grey. Tea, the happy compromise. [15:13] <harryfreak359> hahahaha Fawkes [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> uh huh, No one believes that fawkes [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> mmmm.. not working for me as well [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> :P [15:13] <Expelliarmas> As I sip on maple macchiato ... [15:13] <harryfreak359> you neep to put a space before the code... [15:13] <Aislinn> you have to put a space in front of it mafalda [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> aww, today's chat need to be in honor of fawkes seeing as it is going to be on critters and all [15:13] <harryfreak359> need* [15:13] * harryfreak359 cannot type at all today [15:13] <dompeldoriss_favourite> This is so cool! [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> : excited: [15:13] <JaneMarple9> or Minevra'spetcat smile [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> mm w00t2 [15:13] <Expelliarmas> you're getting there mafalda [15:13] <MafaldaWeasley> ahhh [15:14] <harryfreak359> lol [15:14] <fawkes28> lol i may get confused during the fawkes questions! [15:14] <Alexk> lol [15:14] <Alexk> well sooner, metal is a staple in my house [15:14] * Alexk does hyper dance [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Alex [15:14] <MafaldaWeasley> tx expelli!!! hahaha [15:14] <fawkes28> thanks sooner! w00t2 [15:14] <MafaldaWeasley> how's everybody doing? [15:14] <dompeldoriss_favourite> O.k so what everything falls under 'critters' [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, we are about to get started [15:14] <harryfreak359> woot! [15:14] <Aislinn> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [15:15] <Aislinn> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [15:15] <Aislinn> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [15:15] <Aislinn> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [15:15] <Aislinn> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [15:15] <Expelliarmas> From the Boa from Brazil, to the Vampire Sanguini and everything in-between we have seen all sorts of creatures in Harry's world. Some have played a huge role, some a small one, and some may have a part yet to play. [15:15] <Expelliarmas> In this chat we would like to explore the various creatures and critters that Jo has created and what roles they could play in book 7. [15:16] <Expelliarmas> We first see centaurs in book 1 when Harry visits the forbidden forest. While most centaurs march to the beat of their own drum, Firenze seems to take a personal interest in protecting and possibly helping Harry. Why do you think Firenze left the herd to go teach divination? [15:16] <SoonerGryffindor> Firenze has always fascinated me [15:16] *** fw00per has joined #lounge [15:16] <harryfreak359> hmm...hard question [15:16] <fawkes28> i think that firenze made the choice that was right and not the choice that was easy [15:16] <JaneMarple9> he wanted to teach the children [15:16] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a great answer fawkes [15:16] <Expelliarmas> Well, for starters, he got kicked out of the herd so had nowhere else to go [15:16] <Aislinn> He seemed more directly interested in the fates of the world than any of the others, all the way back in the first book [15:16] <fw00per> hi guys, where are we? [15:16] <SevenofNine> Firenze might take exception to being called a magical critter. [15:16] <harryfreak359> yes Fawkes...I think he knew something was happening... [15:17] <MafaldaWeasley> I agree with fawkes [15:17] <JaneMarple9> also he wasn't popular in the forest, after he let Harry ride on his back [15:17] <SoonerGryffindor> we are talking about firenze and centaurs fwooper [15:17] <Aislinn> we just started talking about Firenze fwooper [15:17] <Alexk> he thinks it's important that wizards know the future because it's a grim one [15:17] <fawkes28> he seems to know the fate of the world and maybe something in the sky was telling him he needed to be at hogwarts [15:17] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I agrre he definitly knew something was up [15:17] <fw00per> thanks [15:17] <Expelliarmas> It also seems he was more inclined to think for himself and not fall into a "herd" mentality [15:17] <MafaldaWeasley> I think he realized that sooon LV would affect the centaurs as well [15:17] <JaneMarple9> he wants to inform people about centauea [15:17] <SoonerGryffindor> even before he got kicked out, he was partial to Harry and saved his life in the first book [15:17] <Alexk> they should be prepared [15:17] <MrMcGonagall> I also think he didn't have a lot of choices once he was banned from the herd. [15:17] <SevenofNine> and Firenze stands behind those fighting evil, rather than just watching from the sidelines. [15:17] <harryfreak359> yes Sooner [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> literally he marches to the beat of his own drum and not that of the rest of the herd [15:18] <JaneMarple9> agreed sooner [15:18] <harryfreak359> he was always that way...I think that he wants the best for all life, not just centaurs... [15:18] <fawkes28> yes, expie, he doesn't seem to have to follow the crowd [15:18] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Does that mean Harry owns him a life-debt? [15:18] <Aislinn> I agree harryfreak [15:18] <MinervasPetCat> soonergryffindor do you think firenze's fellows might have seen him interfering with fate when he saved harry? [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think so dompel [15:18] <Expelliarmas> He also thought the Centaurs themselves would be endangered. Probably thought it would be best to be proactive than reactive. [15:18] *** jmish has joined #lounge [15:18] <JaneMarple9> don't think so...he didn't exactly save his life [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a good question minervas [15:18] <MrMcGonagall> He doesn't follow the non-interference code by which most of the centaurs abide. [15:19] <SevenofNine> I think Harry will find he has a lot of people standing behind him, as much because of what he's doing as because of him. [15:19] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Oh I see... thanks [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> they definitely saw it as interfering, didnt they? [15:19] <harryfreak359> I think that he chose not to be offended by the way humans think, unlike the others [15:19] <Expelliarmas> Maybe Firenze doesn't go for "Fate" and believes in choices [15:19] <SevenofNine> Many magical species [15:19] <MafaldaWeasley> i think there's more to do with pride, minerva [15:19] <JaneMarple9> but thinking about it firenze did save harry from voldemort in the woods [15:19] <MrMcGonagall> It's hard to stand by and do nothing when you see danger. [15:19] <Aislinn> yes, expie, I think he seems to realize that the fate of the wizarding world will impact the fate of the centaurs [15:19] <Alexk> maybe he owed a debt to hogwarts [15:19] <MrMcGonagall> Unless you're a centaur, that is. [15:19] <harryfreak359> Agree Expie [15:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that point Expie and I agree with what Aislinn added to that [15:19] <fawkes28> firenze doesn't seem to seprate "people" from "centaurs" he seems to treat everyone equally [15:19] <Aislinn> and that you have to make your own "fate" through your choices [15:19] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [15:19] <fw00per> I think he's able to see the bigger picture of how LV will eventually reach their little world [15:19] <MafaldaWeasley> they think fireze obeys DD somehow and they are very proud creatures... [15:20] <JaneMarple9> firenze seems the most intelligent of the centaurs [15:20] <Expelliarmas> I don't think he sees the ultimate choice of good v. evil as exempting the Centaurs [15:20] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Do you guys think he would believe in Trelawney's prophecies [15:20] <JaneMarple9> he knows his own mind [15:20] <Aislinn> right [15:20] <fawkes28> i agree, fw00per [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think he does dompel, from the way he talked about her in OotP [15:20] <JaneMarple9> nah, he considers trelawney a fraud [15:20] <fw00per> I think he would believe her real prophecies [15:20] <MrMcGonagall> He seems to be aware that there is such a thing as true "seeing" by people like Trelawney. [15:20] *** SevenofNine has quit [Bye] [15:20] <fawkes28> no dompel, i think firenze goes by his beliefs [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> this is true [15:20] <MrMcGonagall> although most of her hocus-pocus is a load of hogwash. [15:20] <Expelliarmas> I think he's more skeptical about Trelawney--"she might see, I do not know" [15:20] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I thought so, sooner but their Divination is similiar [15:20] <JaneMarple9> like most of the professors [15:20] <fawkes28> firenze is very much his own person [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> good point dompel [15:21] <JaneMarple9> firenze is interested in the planets [15:21] <dompeldoriss_favourite> thanks sooner [15:21] <Expelliarmas> well, he admits most of the time, the Centaurs don't see a thing either [15:21] <Expelliarmas> Is it significant for the purposes of book 7 that there is now a centaur living in Hogwarts and will this affect the plot of book 7 any? In what way? [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that its good to have someone like him on hand [15:21] <JaneMarple9> well perhaps he can read the planetry movements? [15:22] <harryfreak359> Wow...I haven't thought about that...I think it could be useful [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> he is obviously not on LV's side [15:22] <fawkes28> i think that no matter where firenze lived that he would help harry if he could [15:22] <JaneMarple9> and forewarn harry? [15:22] <Expelliarmas> he will be someone who can reach out to the Centaurs--if they're willing to listen [15:22] <fw00per> agreed, fawkes [15:22] <Aislinn> I think that having a connetion to all of the magical creatures will be important for the final battle [15:22] *** CRUCIO_10 has joined #lounge [15:22] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think it could be anything dramatic. Centaur divination is a very long-term kind of thing. [15:22] <Alexk> to predict the future of hogwarts [15:22] <Aislinn> hi crucio [15:22] <harryfreak359> agreed Expie [15:22] <fawkes28> i completely agree, aislinn [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea, but I think it is significant that he is residing inside, rather than out in the forst [15:22] <Aislinn> we're talking about Firenze [15:22] <MafaldaWeasley> maybe. I think that at hogwarst now there's a representation of every main magical creatures.. just missing the globlins [15:22] <JaneMarple9> we didn't see much of firenze in book 6, hardly mentioned [15:22] <harryfreak359> agreed Aislinn as well [15:22] <Expelliarmas> I don't think it's safe for him to be outside, Sooner [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Expie [15:23] <MrMcGonagall> For instance, the centaurs have had some idea of the future of events in the world already in Book One. [15:23] <Expelliarmas> Similar to how it's not safe for Trelawney to be outside the castle [15:23] <fawkes28> we know magical beings have different powers than humans which may be significant in the 7th book [15:23] <fw00per> I think he'll play some part, just not sure how much [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Mars is bright tonight [15:23] <Aislinn> I wonder if the rest of the herd's feelings are going to change at all, now that Dumbledore is dead. They seemed to have respect for him. [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> weird that they both are in danger, and they both teach divination [15:23] <fawkes28> i think firenze is watching the planets more carefully than ever, which is why it is important for him to be there [15:23] <MrMcGonagall> Firenze's safety is quite different from Trelawney's though, I think. [15:24] <JaneMarple9> wouldn't you have thought that firenze would be better suited for astromery teaching? [15:24] <Expelliarmas> Do the Centaurs have magical powers? What makes them magical? [15:24] <harryfreak359> Yes, I'd think so Mr.M [15:24] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I think that they would not be left out of the fight. No one will be left unaffected, They will have to fight [15:24] <Aislinn> I agree Mr M [15:24] <MrMcGonagall> Centaurs generally don't talk about what they see in the stars, but Firenze does. Maybe he will help Harry in some way. [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I am stumped [15:24] <JaneMarple9> they are good at foreshadowing [15:24] <Aislinn> I don't think we've seen them do anything magical [15:24] <Expelliarmas> I've not seen the Centaurs perform any magic [15:24] <harryfreak359> I think that they are more magical in the sense that they have extreme i.q. levels... [15:24] <fw00per> Firenze certainly is better at communicating than the rest of the herd [15:24] <fawkes28> i think they do have a great able to foreshadow that which is too come [15:24] <dompeldoriss_favourite> i would say their divination gifts are kind like their magic [15:25] <JaneMarple9> they seem very intelligent [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> it makes you wonder if they do have powers though. I bet they have something besides divination [15:25] <Aislinn> that's a good point dompel [15:25] <Expelliarmas> well, hf, that could just make them intellectuals, but how is that magical? [15:25] <MafaldaWeasley> magical power...nop, but they ahve knowledge of ancient things.. maybe even of ancient magic that can be done without wand for instance [15:25] <jmish> centaurs aren't allowed wands, right? [15:25] <MrMcGonagall> Well, they are some of those creatures that Jo has pulled from actual mythology, but I don't think they possess actual magical powers. [15:25] <JaneMarple9> why did firenze take up the divination? [15:25] <dompeldoriss_favourite> thanks aislinn [15:25] <fawkes28> foreshadowing i think is where they will help in this war; however i think the centaurs need to unit in order for them to be able to help in this war [15:25] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm sure centaurs would not be allowed wands [15:25] <harryfreak359> Yes, I know Expie...trying to figure out that myself. tongue [15:25] <MafaldaWeasley> hey Evreka [15:25] <fw00per> hi evreka [15:25] <harryfreak359> hi Evreka! [15:25] <Evreka> hi everyone [15:25] <fawkes28> i don't think they would want wands, sooner [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> hi evreka [15:25] <Alexk> hi evreka [15:25] <Expelliarmas> they spend a load of time doing predictions, but they acknowledge most of the time their methods don't work [15:25] <JaneMarple9> wouldn't he be better suited to astromy, with the planets etc? [15:25] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Welcome evreka [15:25] <MinervasPetCat> hi evreka [15:25] <MrMcGonagall> I think Firenze may have a role to play yet, but I think the rest of the centaurs will withdraw even more. [15:26] <JaneMarple9> no can't see firenze with a wand [15:26] <harryfreak359> but I agree with dompel about their divination skills [15:26] <Aislinn> that seems most likely Mr M [15:26] <Evreka> Where are we, I came straight from my Inbox wink [15:26] <fw00per> talking about centaurs [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> we're talking about centaurs [15:26] <Aislinn> We are talking about whether centaurs have their own magic [15:26] <Evreka> thanks [15:26] <dompeldoriss_favourite> i wonder if they make prohecies? [15:26] <fawkes28> although the centaurs don't want to be around people, if they get insulted by any of the death eaters - watch out! [15:26] <JaneMarple9> great echo in here sometimes smile [15:26] <fw00per> they could play a key role if the DE's attack them [15:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think centaurs deal principally with interpretation rather than prophecies. [15:27] <Expelliarmas> Can we assume that Firenze is loyal to Harry and will help him? Will he bring other centaurs around to his thinking? [15:27] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I agree fawkes they are not to be messed with [15:27] <Evreka> Well they have Divination skills far above humans [15:27] <fw00per> or even if they insult them [15:27] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, it may be a case of defending themselves or working against the DE, rather than for the good side [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he is loyal and always will be loyal to Harry's side [15:27] <JaneMarple9> i'd say firenze is very loyal to harry [15:27] <MrMcGonagall> I don't see a further connection between Firenze and the centaurs, but he might try to give Harry some guidance. [15:27] <MafaldaWeasley> i don't think he'll manage to make other ceutaurs to help Harry, unlesse Magorian is killed [15:27] <Evreka> Let's hope they are fawkes... devil2 [15:27] <Expelliarmas> he certainly respects Harry [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> but sadly I think the rest of the centaurs will keep to themselves [15:27] <Aislinn> I think Firenze has shown hiimself to be loyal, and I think he will continue to be [15:27] *** halfakneazle has joined #lounge [15:27] <JaneMarple9> but not sure if he could presuade the other centaurs [15:27] <fawkes28> i think firenze has a good connection to firenze and will continue this relationship with harry [15:27] <Alexk> i think he's loyal to harry, he knocked Voldy out of the way that day in the df [15:27] <harryfreak359> I think that Firenze is loyal to Harry...I think that he wants the greater good for the whole magical community [15:27] <MinervasPetCat> i agree that firenze is very loyal to harry [15:27] <fw00per> hi halfakneazle [15:28] <Evreka> I think Firenze is prepared to challenge what the sky tells him [15:28] <halfakneazle> hiya [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> hello halfkneazle [15:28] <fawkes28> i don't think the other centaurs will be persuaded unless they are in danger [15:28] <MafaldaWeasley> he half [15:28] <Evreka> and try to make a difference [15:28] <dompeldoriss_favourite> maybe others will folllow his example... hopefully [15:28] <Expelliarmas> if the Centaurs see themselves threatened, then it would make it easier for Firenze to reconnect with them [15:28] <JaneMarple9> now that dumbledores gone, the centaurs might get a little wilder? [15:28] <halfakneazle> what are we talking about? [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> that's what I hope for dompel [15:28] <Expelliarmas> Can we assume that Firenze is loyal to Harry and will help him? Will he bring other centaurs around to his thinking? [15:28] <JaneMarple9> centaurs at the moment [15:28] <Expelliarmas> that's the questions, halfakneazle [15:28] <fawkes28> i do think that if the forest was in danger that firenze will risk his life to go warn the other centaurs....i think there is a good possibility of that happening [15:28] <fw00per> I don't think he'll convince too many other centaurs [15:28] <dompeldoriss_favourite> me too sooner [15:29] <Evreka> I don't think he can bring the rest around because he's an outcast now [15:29] <JaneMarple9> the other centaurs have disowned him [15:29] <fw00per> the centaurs don't seem to act unless they are threatened [15:29] <MinervasPetCat> that's a good thought evreka [15:29] <Evreka> I agree fawkes [15:29] *** Isabel has joined #lounge [15:29] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Do you guys think they would defend Hogwarts if its attacked? [15:29] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, I don't think we'll be seeing any more of the centaur herd. [15:29] <fw00per> hi isabel [15:29] <JaneMarple9> so there's not much hope for firenze returning to the fold...literally [15:29] <Isabel> hey [15:29] <Expelliarmas> We have seen 2 werewolves in the series: Lupin and Fenrir. In HBP Lupin was away most of the time working to get werewolves loyalties away from Voldemort's camp and into Dumbledore's camp. Do you think he was successful and will this have any bearing in book 7? [15:29] <MafaldaWeasley> hello isabel [15:29] <Evreka> I think he'd do all he can to stop LV [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> hi isabel [15:29] <Isabel> hola all! [15:29] <Alexk> Firenze has a lot more courage than the other centaurs, I think going to Hogwarts was his decision alone, I don't think he has a problem with being independant, therefore, i don't think he'll try and sway other centaurs at all. [15:30] <Isabel> hey sooner [15:30] <fawkes28> hi isabel [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> It doesn't seem like things were going well with the werewolves. [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm not sure how things were going [15:30] <JaneMarple9> he was quite sucessful, Lupin, with the werewolves [15:30] <Isabel> sooo are we on werewolves? [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think Lupin will succeed in convincing many werewolves. [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> yes isabel [15:30] <Evreka> No I fear that he was completely unseccessfull [15:30] <Aislinn> I think Lupin's quest is going to have very limited results [15:30] <fawkes28> i do not think lupin was successful at all [15:30] <Expelliarmas> yes, Isabel [15:30] <JaneMarple9> but Fenrir is more powerful [15:30] <Isabel> ok [15:30] <dompeldoriss_favourite> was he I thought he said it was not gooing very good [15:30] <MafaldaWeasley> lupin! i think he'll be in danger with that. I don't think he could convince many [15:30] <JaneMarple9> and has more friends...from the other side [15:30] <Evreka> but still... somehow... that must have been relevant? [15:30] <harryfreak359> I don't think Lupin was sucessful at all [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> Lupin says at Christmas at the Burrow that it's an uphill battle. [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I still wonder how many werewolves ther are [15:31] <Expelliarmas> Fenrir is also likely more charismatic to the werewolves; Lupin can be so understated [15:31] <Evreka> Pewrhaps only to explain why noone was writing to Harry though [15:31] <harryfreak359> So do I SOoner [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> LV is able to offer them much more. [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> there must be quite a few to make it worth the effort [15:31] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [15:31] <harryfreak359> yes [15:31] <JaneMarple9> lupin didn't manage to persuade many werewolves i don't think [15:31] <fawkes28> he even says that it has been difficult gaining their trust..they resent lupin because he has lived among wizards [15:31] <jmish> the situation with werewolves was kinda like the situation with giants [15:31] <fw00per> lupin may have more success if fenrir is gone [15:31] <JaneMarple9> yes there is probably more werewolves than us Muggles know about [15:31] <Isabel> true fawkes [15:32] <Evreka> What about the werewolf that was in the same St Mungo room as Arthur though? [15:32] <Expelliarmas> Are all werewolves magical or can a Muggle be a werewolf? [15:32] <Isabel> i think there may be some like him around [15:32] <Isabel> you know good ones [15:32] <dompeldoriss_favourite> and I think they are hard to fight becayse of the magic in them... kinda like Hagrid [15:32] <JaneMarple9> some werewolves might be good, like Lupin [15:32] <Aislinn> I think there can be Muggle ones [15:32] <MrMcGonagall> Interesting question, Expie. [15:32] <Evreka> Lupin befriended him directly, maybe he could turn him? [15:32] <dompeldoriss_favourite> you have to be a wizard [15:32] <Isabel> ditto jane [15:32] <harryfreak359> I think that Muggles could be werewolves... [15:32] <halfakneazle> hmm...good question. [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I have no idea [15:32] <Evreka> no idea [15:32] <Expelliarmas> Yes, one of Sooner's best questions [15:32] <Expelliarmas> and yet [15:32] *** An_Eternal_Night has joined #lounge [15:32] <Isabel> oh i think so too HF [15:32] <JaneMarple9> I used to be a werewolf...but I'm alright Nooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww! devil2 [15:32] <MafaldaWeasley> yeah sooner.. no idea [15:32] <fw00per> must go, be back later [15:32] <sdcurtis> I think there are some muggle werewolves [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Jane [15:32] <Evreka> lol, Jane [15:32] <JaneMarple9> :D [15:32] <halfakneazle> haha [15:32] <Alexk> well if we draw on past myth knowledge, muggles can be wherewolves [15:32] <MafaldaWeasley> by fw [15:33] <fawkes28> i don't think whatever society they live in, they will be shunned so i don't think magical ability is even a perk [15:33] <dompeldoriss_favourite> but in the book they say wereowolves are wizard part-human or something like that [15:33] <Alexk> *werewolves [15:33] <Expelliarmas> I don't think a dude like Fenrir discriminates between Muggle and wizard victims [15:33] <fawkes28> *i do think [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> if they were all magical, that would make them more threatening, right? [15:33] *** fw00per left #lounge [] [15:33] <Isabel> true alex [15:33] <JaneMarple9> some muggle werewolves? possible [15:33] <An_Eternal_Night> hi all [15:33] <halfakneazle> hi [15:33] <harryfreak359> Yeah, agreed Sooner [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> hello aen [15:33] <Evreka> yea Alex, but... Jo's stories doesn't allways tally with all there is [15:33] <Isabel> mhhm [15:33] <Aislinn> exactly expie [15:33] <JaneMarple9> could explain some of the more disturbed muggles [15:33] <Aislinn> hi EAN [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Jane [15:33] <Aislinn> or AEN even smile [15:33] <halfakneazle> well, if muggles can't be werewolves, then what happens if they are bitten? [15:33] <dompeldoriss_favourite> right sooner [15:33] <MafaldaWeasley> hello AEN [15:33] <Expelliarmas> or the hairier ones, Jane [15:33] <Alexk> yes, but she does research for her books, and a lot of her ideas are pulled from those old stories [15:33] <fawkes28> i think being a wizard is harder for werewolves because that society knows they exist [15:33] <An_Eternal_Night> lol smile [15:33] <harryfreak359> werewolves aren't really "magical" because of their werewolf-ness...but because they are wizards...soooo [15:34] <Evreka> AEN? [15:34] <JaneMarple9> could Vernon be distantly related from werewolf? [15:34] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I guess the muggles die [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a disturbing qeustion half, but a good one [15:34] <Isabel> lol jane!!!!! [15:34] <JaneMarple9> He has the right temper for it [15:34] *** CRUCIO_10 left #lounge [] [15:34] <dompeldoriss_favourite> or depends on the seriousness of the wound [15:34] <MafaldaWeasley> lol jane [15:34] <sdcurtis> according to Fantastic Beasts and where to find them it says "the other wise sane and normal wizard or muggle afflicted transforms into a murderouos beast" [15:34] <fawkes28> in the muggle world, they choose to ignore anything magical, so know one will take notice when they go into hiding because they will make different excuses [15:34] <harryfreak359> I think that they turn into werewolves... [15:34] *** MinervasPetCat has quit [Bye] [15:34] <Aislinn> well, there you go then [15:34] <Evreka> I guess they could be werewolves too, why not really? [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks for that reference sd, so now we know [15:34] <MrMcGonagall> If Vernon is related to a werewolf, it must have been a pug dog werewolf. [15:34] <fawkes28> thanks curtis [15:34] <MafaldaWeasley> ahh so muggles can be werewolves [15:35] <Expelliarmas> What role do you see Lupin playing in book 7? [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> co-leading the order [15:35] <harryfreak359> I think he will have an important role [15:35] <An_Eternal_Night> a very big role [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he has given up with the werewolves for now [15:35] <JaneMarple9> yes...if Muggles went in hiding,most Muggles would think they'd gone on holiday [15:35] <Isabel> me too HF [15:35] <Evreka> As an Order member fighting DEs [15:35] <Expelliarmas> I think his time as a werewolf spy is over; he'll be more active in the Order [15:35] <JaneMarple9> yes...perhaps the leader of the Order [15:35] <MrMcGonagall> I have no idea what Lupin will get up to. [15:35] <MafaldaWeasley> I think he'll have a more closer role with Bill, besides, Harry always trusted him very much [15:35] <fawkes28> i think lupin will try to reach out as a father figure to harry [15:35] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Could he be the new Order leader [15:35] *** MinervasPetCat has joined #lounge [15:35] <JaneMarple9> after he got married that is smile [15:35] <Evreka> grrrrr, I'll be right back [15:35] <fawkes28> i think it would be very wise of harry to lean on lupin when he needs some guidance [15:36] <harryfreak359> I think that all werewolves are going to be important, and I think that he is going to be extra important because he will be leading the fight against the werewolves... [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I htink he will help Harry as well, not that I think Harry will tell him about horcruxes, but I think he will play a big part [15:36] <Isabel> ohhh good one fawkes!! [15:36] <Isabel> i think so too [15:36] <Expelliarmas> Lupin still has a lot to teach Harry [15:36] <JaneMarple9> oh harry will lean on lupin a lot now [15:36] <Alexk> oh, i hope not fawkes, not another dead marauder [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Sooner. [15:36] <harryfreak359> agreed Fawkes [15:36] <dompeldoriss_favourite> yes exple [15:36] <halfakneazle> definately [15:36] <fawkes28> however harry's father figures all don't seem to last sad [15:36] <Alexk> they always die [15:36] <harryfreak359> happy_crying [15:36] <halfakneazle> true... [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> sad thought guys, but possible [15:36] <JaneMarple9> lupin is more or less harry's last link to his dad [15:36] <Isabel> yes thats so sad [15:36] <Expelliarmas> What role do you see Fenrir playing in book 7? [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> I think his role will principally be advising Harry. [15:36] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I hope not Lupin too! [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> hopefully dying [15:36] <An_Eternal_Night> dying a horrible death [15:36] <Isabel> if lupin die i'll be so mad, hes my fav character [15:36] <JaneMarple9> dead biggrin [15:36] <Expelliarmas> With any luck, his big role is dying [15:37] <fawkes28> mr. m, i may let you use your bus! [15:37] <MrMcGonagall> lol, Sooner! I totally agree. [15:37] <harryfreak359> Also important...he'll be Lupin's opposite [15:37] <Alexk> a big showdown between him and lupin [15:37] <fawkes28> you have my permission [15:37] <MinervasPetCat> i agree with you soonergryffindor i hope he dies by lupin [15:37] <Aislinn> I think that he will be bringing one or 2 werewolves over to his side, and they can act as spies to help in the cause [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> Mr M is going to run him over with the bus [15:37] <harryfreak359> lol [15:37] <MafaldaWeasley> Or Bill oppositor [15:37] <JaneMarple9> he'll occur the wrath of Voldie [15:37] <harryfreak359> Woot, Mr.M [15:37] * MrMcGonagall gets the Knight Bus into gear. [15:37] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I think so too harryfreak good one. Maybe they wil fight [15:37] <halfakneazle> Lupin should kill him [15:37] <fawkes28> i think that fenrir is going to cause a lot of damage [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, I see either Lupin or Bill offing him [15:37] <Aislinn> oops, that was a very late response to Lupin - not Fenrir! [15:37] <JaneMarple9> but of course! Way to go Mr McGonnagal smile [15:37] <harryfreak359> Yes, Sooner [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Aislinn [15:37] <fawkes28> his goal is to make more werewolves than there are wizards in society [15:38] <fawkes28> and i don't think he will stop at anything to succeed [15:38] <MrMcGonagall> Well, we'll put a stop to that! [15:38] <JaneMarple9> sounds pretty vicious [15:38] <Expelliarmas> Hope some of his victims get a chance to nail him [15:38] <Isabel> ok guys its been fun i got to go [15:38] <fawkes28> you go, mr. m! [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> me too Expie [15:38] <sdcurtis> lupin and bill may both off him [15:38] <Expelliarmas> Also hope that a cure for it is found [15:38] <MafaldaWeasley> bye isabel [15:38] <JaneMarple9> going to be more injuries sad [15:38] <Isabel> see ya [15:38] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I think he would try to over throw Voldemort if he could [15:38] <Alexk> bye isabel [15:38] <harryfreak359> yeah I think so Jane [15:38] * MrMcGonagall hears Fenrir go "bump" under the tire. Oopsy! [15:38] <Aislinn> I think so too dompel [15:38] <Expelliarmas> meanwhile, he'll be filling St. Mungo's [15:38] <JaneMarple9> Bill might be important, helping Lupin? [15:38] <halfakneazle> hahh Mr. McG [15:38] <harryfreak359> lol Mr.M [15:38] <fawkes28> even though i think he will cause a lot of damage, i do think he will die [15:38] <Alexk> LOL mrm [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> ewww [15:39] <An_Eternal_Night> Fenrir = roadkill [15:39] <MafaldaWeasley> i think lupin might be important helping bill [15:39] <Expelliarmas> We first hear about phoenixes in book 1 and then we meet Fawkes in book 2. Loyal pet of Dumbledore, able to peck out basilisk eyes, heal near fatal injuries, and swallow AK curses, this little guy has been quite an asset. What do you think of fawkes? [15:39] <dompeldoriss_favourite> hahaha an eternal [15:39] <harryfreak359> Agreed Fawkes [15:39] <fawkes28> i love fawkes!!! smile [15:39] <Expelliarmas> Not our fawkes, the Fawkes [15:39] <MinervasPetCat> lol An_Eternal*** MinervasPetCat has joined #lounge [15:39] <JaneMarple9> Fenrir is such a great name [15:39] <MrMcGonagall> Phoenixes are so amazing! [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I love fawkes [15:39] <Aislinn> I love fawkes [15:39] <fawkes28> obviously [15:39] <harryfreak359> ahhh...fawkes!!!! [15:39] <harryfreak359> :heart: [15:39] <fawkes28> aww, you guys are so sweet hehe [15:39] <An_Eternal_Night> Fawkes is my favorite animal character [15:39] <JaneMarple9> Fawkes is so important in the Corner Booth biggrin [15:39] <harryfreak359> I love fawkes as well [15:39] <Aislinn> and I think that he is going to be a help to Harry in the final book [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> fawkes rocks [15:39] <Evreka> I love fawkes!!! [15:39] <Expelliarmas> Isn't it odd that there's no known countercurse to AK, but Fawkes can swallow the spell and live? [15:39] <MafaldaWeasley> fawkes represents loyalty [15:39] <Alexk> Fawkes only helps those most loyal to dd, he will help harry in the last book [15:39] <dompeldoriss_favourite> ME TOO! [15:39] <MinervasPetCat> Crookshanks is my fav [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I love that Expie [15:40] *** ProngsPatronus has joined #lounge [15:40] <Evreka> he's my favourite creature by FAR [15:40] <MafaldaWeasley> acctually it dies expelli [15:40] <fawkes28> i think so too aislinn [15:40] <harryfreak359> well because fawkes can't die [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome prongs [15:40] <dompeldoriss_favourite> But I think he might be gone with DD [15:40] <JaneMarple9> ah...the 'real' fawkes...I hope he might becomes Harry's pet [15:40] <Aislinn> hi prongs smile [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> Hello, All! [15:40] <MafaldaWeasley> but it can born again from his ashes [15:40] * halfakneazle hopes fawkes will come back [15:40] <Alexk> hi prongs [15:40] <Evreka> He doesn't live Exopie, He dies and are immidiately reborn [15:40] <Expelliarmas> It dies, mafalda, but it isn't killed [15:40] <MafaldaWeasley> hi prongs [15:40] <An_Eternal_Night> JKR did hint that Harry may have another pet sometime... [15:40] <dompeldoriss_favourite> Hey Prongs! [15:40] <Aislinn> I don't see fawkes as a pet, but rather a companion [15:40] <fawkes28> harry is extremely loyal to harry and we know that his loyality will be just as strong if not stronger [15:40] <JaneMarple9> pheonixes can't die can they? They keep being reborn [15:40] <harryfreak359> Agreed Aislinn [15:40] <JaneMarple9> that right? [15:40] <halfakneazle> me too Aislinn [15:40] <harryfreak359> No I think they can die [15:41] <MafaldaWeasley> it is killed, but it can live again smile [15:41] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Aislinn. [15:41] <An_Eternal_Night> Phoenixes are rather independent, aren't they? [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> yes [15:41] <dompeldoriss_favourite> but maybe they pass on with their 'owners' [15:41] <JaneMarple9> yeah, fawkes is more of a companion than a pet yeah [15:41] <fawkes28> yes, they are difficult to domesticate [15:41] *** Poet has joined #lounge [15:41] <halfakneazle> yeah. they'd never consent to being just a pet [15:41] <Evreka> yeah, but even with Harry's loyality I'm affraid he'd flown off [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> I think Fawkes went back to his native land [15:41] <Aislinn> I think that he will come to Harry's aid as he is very much on the side of good, and will remain true to DD's convictions [15:41] <Expelliarmas> Will we see Fawkes in book 7 and what role do you see him playing if we do? [15:41] <Evreka> happy_crying [15:41] <MrMcGonagall> I think we will definitely see him again, but it's going to another of those out-of-nowhere events. [15:41] <Expelliarmas> heya Poet [15:42] <JaneMarple9> Ah...fantastic beasts say the Phoenixs can live to immence ages [15:42] <fawkes28> i think we will see him when harry most needs him [15:42] <Evreka> Hi Poet [15:42] <Alexk> this time he'll peck out voldy's eyes [15:42] <MafaldaWeasley> i think fawkes can reconize magic and maybe can help ahrry to find some horcrux in a forest, ie [15:42] <An_Eternal_Night> I think wee will [15:42] <MrMcGonagall> It has to mean something that Harry and LV's cores are Fawkes' feathers. [15:42] <dompeldoriss_favourite> maybe he will come help Harry when thet dule LV [15:42] <Poet> Hey, I hope to see him coming to Harry's rescue at least once in Book 7 [15:42] <Aislinn> yes Mr M [15:42] <Expelliarmas> What about the fact that both LV and Harry have wand cores from Fawkes' tail feather? Will this play a role? [15:42] <JaneMarple9> so hopefully he'll be around for years [15:42] <fawkes28> when all hope is lost and we run out of options that is when i feel fawkes will come to harry's rescue [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I really hope we see this magnificent creature again [15:42] <harryfreak359> I think so [15:42] <Evreka> I am affraid we won't see him but if we do, I'll welcome him with open arms... hug [15:42] <JaneMarple9> it might be very important [15:42] <Aislinn> I wonder if LV would try to get a new wand, or if he is too tied to his own [15:42] <An_Eternal_Night> I have a feeling Harry will hear the phoenix song at least once more [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I think the phoenix song is important as well [15:42] <halfakneazle> HThe wands have been present to often in the books for them to not show up in the last one [15:43] <fawkes28> we still do not know everything about the wands [15:43] <ProngsPatronus> Perhaps it is the Phoenix'as song that Fawkes will provide [15:43] <JaneMarple9> What if Fawkes injured Voldemort...then healed him with his tears? eek_yello [15:43] <Expelliarmas> Goblins have been mentioned several times throughout the series and they are very much an enigma still. They seem to run the finances of the wizarding world, yet are not allowed wands and have been known to have rebellions. What do you think of the importance of Goblins? [15:43] <Poet> There is a Jo quote that says Harry will have a new/different pet in a future book. [15:43] <MafaldaWeasley> yes AEN and still we don't know what it means, of having the same core [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> fawkes basically told Harry to hang on during that duel and helped him through his wand [15:43] <Evreka> I'm sure it'll play a role, because it stops their wands from working well against eachother [15:43] <dompeldoriss_favourite> but Harry did say that he felt the song disappear forever something [15:43] <Aislinn> he is still with Harry, within his wand core [15:43] <fawkes28> and i think there is some magic with the wands being fawkes' feather that will be significant to the final battle [15:43] *** Isabel has quit [Bye] [15:43] *** adamgryff has joined #lounge [15:43] <JaneMarple9> goblins like gold smile [15:43] <An_Eternal_Night> Goblins are very interesting [15:43] <harryfreak359> Hey Adam! [15:43] <fawkes28> hi adam smile [15:43] <adamgryff> hi everyone [15:43] <Evreka> I think we MIGHT see a new goblin rebellion [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they are going to be very crucial [15:44] <MafaldaWeasley> hi adam [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> hey adam [15:44] <JaneMarple9> obviously that why they work in Gringotts [15:44] <dompeldoriss_favourite> hey adam [15:44] <fawkes28> i think you are right everka [15:44] <JaneMarple9> hi Adam [15:44] <ProngsPatronus> what would the wizards do without their gold? [15:44] <Poet> Bill being a charms breaker puts him in an important position to possibly help Harry get into a vault at Gringotts - if there might be a horcrux there [15:44] <harryfreak359> Agreed Evreka [15:44] <Evreka> hi adam [15:44] <fawkes28> goblins have been denied rights for far too long [15:44] <MrMcGonagall> I'm not sure what the goblins will get up to. I think they do whatever is to their advantage, and are perfectly capable of serving both sides. [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> they have been mentioned too many times not to play a role I think [15:44] <ProngsPatronus> I think the goblins will close Gringott's [15:44] <Alexk> i really think they are one of those races that will go with the side that gives them what they want [15:44] <JaneMarple9> perhaps Hermione will start up a goblin league? [15:44] <fawkes28> and because of that reason they may be able to be swayed to either side [15:44] <Evreka> Very good question Prongs [15:44] <Poet> Also, we're seen dragons in Gringotts, so Charlie might come in handy within Gringotts as well [15:44] <MafaldaWeasley> yeah, fawkes.. i think the MoM will have to deal with them [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they are also powerfully magic because they have not been allowed wands [15:44] <Expelliarmas> it's scary that they run Gringotts without any wizard control [15:44] <Evreka> Could they retrieve it with accio? [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> tjere must be a reason for that [15:44] <JaneMarple9> perhaps poet yes [15:45] <dompeldoriss_favourite> maybe S.P.E.W will include Goblins too [15:45] <fawkes28> exactly PP they could the money which is important [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> very scary Expie [15:45] <JaneMarple9> we don't really know much about goblins do we? [15:45] <Poet> There appears to be an underground lake in Gringotts - I hope we get to go back to Gringotts in Book 7 [15:45] <Alexk> they're not allowed wands because in many cases they can be more clever than wizards, which scares me [15:45] <ProngsPatronus> well, I was thinking of circumstances where Bill might be free [15:45] <harryfreak359> No not much at all [15:45] <Evreka> agree Expie [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> we dont know much of anythging, but they rebell a lot [15:46] <ProngsPatronus> and closing the bank is one that came to mind [15:46] <dompeldoriss_favourite> no they are very mystrerious [15:46] <Expelliarmas> all we really know is they are really ticked over the Bagman affair [15:46] <fawkes28> and can you imagine all of the other treasures hidden under gringotts - they are powerful [15:46] <MrMcGonagall> In the end, I think goblins might side with the good wizards. Order and stability serves their interests better than LV's dictatorship. [15:46] <Aislinn> the have tried rebelling against the wizards many times, according to the history classes the kids attend [15:46] <harryfreak359> Kind of like centaurs [15:46] <halfakneazle> nope. all we know is that they're clever, run gringotts, and are discontented [15:46] <Evreka> Poet how is that connected to the underground lake? confused07 [15:46] <MrMcGonagall> Were the goblins always involved in finance? [15:46] <fawkes28> yes, they are upset with the MoM but they are also upset with voldemort for murdering a goblin family so they may very well want to stay out of the war [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> and they must be very powerful because of the way they are treated. [15:46] <Aislinn> that is true, Mr M, but I do think the wizards will need to reach out to them with some concessions [15:46] <JaneMarple9> they seem to like being underground? [15:46] <harryfreak359> Agreed Sooner [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally think there is a link to the Goblins and a horcrux myself [15:47] <JaneMarple9> goblins aren't exactly pretty are they? [15:47] <Poet> Lakes and underground locations are a reoccuring theme in some of the books, as are hidden locations... [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> underground Gringotts [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, Aislinn, the goblins won't give anything without getting something in return. [15:47] <dompeldoriss_favourite> I agree Aislinn' [15:47] <Expelliarmas> Is it important that Bill works for Gringott's and may have personal contacts with Goblins? [15:47] <Evreka> ok [15:47] <JaneMarple9> perhaps they will reappear in book 7 [15:47] <ProngsPatronus> I think so [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, Bill will know what's going on in the goblin world. [15:47] <dompeldoriss_favourite> maybe a Horcrux is in a vault [15:47] <adamgryff> I think so, yes [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> He is a good person to connect them to Harry maybe [15:47] <JaneMarple9> yes, perhaps Bill can get them on the good side? [15:47] <fawkes28> i think it is because bill works with them on a daily basis and knows them better than most people [15:47] <Expelliarmas> I think it was more important he was a curse breaker [15:47] <Evreka> Maybe, but I think it's more important that he is a Curse-Breaker [15:47] <harryfreak359> I think he might be [15:47] <Aislinn> I think Bill's relationship with the goblins will be critical [15:47] <JaneMarple9> make them join the order? [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think both are assets [15:47] <sdcurtis> there's that , but I think him being a curse breaker would be more important [15:47] <MafaldaWeasley> I think Bill will be more important with werewolves...i agree with evereka, though [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that Dumbledore had given Bill a job to keep the goblins on the side of the Order [15:48] <fawkes28> i am sure if the goblins come over to the good side it will be because of bill [15:48] <MrMcGonagall> Bill can tell us what's going on in the goblin world. [15:48] <Evreka> Maybe Sooner. Let's hope so [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I also think there will be at least one Goblin at the wedding [15:48] <Aislinn> I agree with the importnce of his curse breaking skills evreka [15:48] < |
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