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futureweasley, Poet, SoonerGryffindor [15:00] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [15:00] *** Topic is: P3 discussion - Godric's Hollow [15:01] <Greeneyes15> was have tones of snow this morning and it's so nice! [15:01] -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized. [15:01] <fawkes28> hey all smile [15:01] <dumbleydore18> no snow for me [15:01] <fawkes28> yes, snow is coming after midnight tonight for me [15:01] <futureweasley> hello hello [15:01] <Greeneyes15> my bro's are out sledding [15:01] <dumbleydore18> just bright sun and chilly! [15:02] <Greeneyes15> i'm really hoping school'll be canceld tomorrow [15:02] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [15:02] <fawkes28> hi nymph [15:02] <Greeneyes15> hey nymphheart [15:02] <nympheart> hello all [15:02] <dumbleydore18> When is the GoF movie night for non Europeans? [15:02] *** MirandaV has joined #lounge [15:03] <nympheart> hi miranda [15:03] <MirandaV> hi peoples [15:03] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:03] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:03] <fawkes28> we haven't done GoF yet for anyone [15:03] <MirandaV> how is everyone today? [15:03] <nympheart> cold [15:03] <Greeneyes15> great! [15:03] <dumbleydore18> okay fawkes...thanks [15:04] <fawkes28> we'll announce it...not to worry smile [15:04] <futureweasley> so good! ready to talk about Godric's Hollow! Woot! [15:04] <Greeneyes15> yes cold too...i'm buried in a blanket [15:04] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [15:04] <Greeneyes15> hey debbie [15:04] <MirandaV> I'm feeling that nymph...I have leaky windows, note to self, save money for window replacement, wait, what money [15:04] *** pinklaura has joined #lounge [15:04] <MirandaV> lol [15:04] <DumbleDebbie> hey ya'll smile [15:04] <nympheart> my younger brother is standing over my shoulder and demanding that I tell you that I'm a nerd [15:04] <fawkes28> hi debbie and pinklaura [15:04] <MirandaV> hi debbie and laura [15:04] <dumbleydore18> I was asking because I missed the PoA viewings beacause they were announced the day of, and I was not on for that whole week...I was very sad lol [15:04] <Greeneyes15> lol [15:05] <nympheart> hi laura and debbie [15:05] *** Joyhawk2121 has joined #lounge [15:05] <DumbleDebbie> hi joy [15:05] <nympheart> hi joy [15:05] <Greeneyes15> hey joy [15:05] <MirandaV> Tell him only the coolest people love HP this much nymph [15:05] <dumbleydore18> brb...finishing up cleaning my room [15:05] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [15:05] <Joyhawk2121> hi everyone [15:05] <nympheart> hi ltbrave [15:05] <MirandaV> hi joy and Itbrave [15:05] <nympheart> he ran away, I'll tell him when he comes back [15:05] <Greeneyes15> hi joy,itbrave [15:05] <ltbrave23> hi everyone [15:06] <ltbrave23> by the way it's an L [15:06] <pinklaura> hey everyone [15:06] <MirandaV> oh sorry...hi ltbrave [15:06] <MirandaV> :) [15:06] <ltbrave23> no it's fine, i [15:06] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:06] <ltbrave23> have been getting that a lot actually [15:06] <nympheart> hi jane [15:06] <MirandaV> hi Jane, [15:06] <fawkes28> hi jane smile [15:07] <MirandaV> it's hard to tell that its an l ltbrave [15:07] <Joyhawk2121> hi jane [15:07] <JaneMarple9> gathering [15:07] <JaneMarple9> bye1 [15:07] <Greeneyes15> testing... [15:07] <MirandaV> My smiley's not working sad [15:07] <fawkes28> apparently Jane is all read to chat smile [15:07] <ltbrave23> yeah i didn't think about it, but when i saw it i thought it would cause a few problems..lol [15:07] <JaneMarple9> biggrin yep [15:07] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:07] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:08] <fawkes28> make sure you put a space before you type the smiley, miranda [15:08] <MirandaV> Oh...I still haven't mastered anything beyond the smiley and frowny face, I'm emoticon challenged...lol [15:08] <Greeneyes15> brb...i made a fresh pot of hot coffee and i need to grab a cup [15:08] <dumbleydore18> back! [15:09] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:09] <dumbleydore18> For a while I thouht my room was going to eat me alive...glad I cleaned it! Phew! [15:09] <fawkes28> you can type this one : excited : without the spaces - it is fun [15:09] * nympheart remains silent as to the condition of her room [15:09] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [15:10] <MirandaV> If you see one my posts dumbley...read my location...it's a metaphor for my house...lol [15:10] <JaneMarple9> ooo Godric's Hollow w00t2 [15:10] <dumbleydore18> lol nymph [15:10] <MirandaV> Oh I'll try w00t2 [15:10] <nympheart> I feel bad for my future roommate [15:10] <fawkes28> yay! clap [15:10] <nympheart> w00t2 [15:10] <MirandaV> it worked!!! I love you for that!! smile [15:10] <nympheart> yay miranda! [15:10] <fawkes28> no problem - any other ones you want to try? [15:11] <futureweasley> my house needs to be condemned at this point...it's a mess. I spend too much time doing other things [15:11] <MirandaV> I don't know yet...I'm sure I'll think of some [15:11] <DumbleDebbie> lol FW [15:11] <JaneMarple9> harrypotter sofa severussnape [15:11] <Aislinn> me too future laugh [15:11] * fawkes28 thinks Jane is showing off [15:11] <DumbleDebbie> just don't do the welcome smiley, it messes up the scrolling [15:11] <JaneMarple9> poster_oops [15:11] <MirandaV> I understand future, I have 2 kids under 2 and I want to do stuff for me sometimes, therefor house is not a priority [15:12] <fawkes28> many of us are :cold: [15:12] <pinklaura> [15:12] <fawkes28> oh it didnt work sad [15:12] <DumbleDebbie> yep it's frigid up here fawkes [15:12] <dumbleydore18> haha Miranda your "location" is funny [15:12] <pinklaura> i'm just sending blank messages, apparently [15:12] <pinklaura> hehe [15:12] <futureweasley> shoveling the sidewalk while it is still snowing is like cleaning the house while the children are growing...utterly pointless [15:12] <MirandaV> Thanks!! smile [15:12] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:12] <DumbleDebbie> but I'm going to Phoenix this week for a conference for work, yay [15:12] <DumbleDebbie> hi Sooner smile [15:12] <MirandaV> hi Sooner [15:12] <fawkes28> i am sure it is way more cold up there than it is down here, debbie [15:13] <JaneMarple9> bye1 sooner [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> hello everyone [15:13] <DumbleDebbie> we had a high of 5 F and windy on Friday [15:13] <ltbrave23> i wish it was cold here [15:13] <nympheart> my brother is back and wants me to inform you that he says that everyone here is a nerd [15:13] <MirandaV> Yikes Debbie [15:13] <fawkes28> way too cold for me - i am sad that the high tomorrow is 29 F laugh [15:13] <DumbleDebbie> where are you ltbrave? [15:13] <pinklaura> i wish it was warm here ltbrave [15:13] <pinklaura> i'll trade you [15:13] <ltbrave23> louisiana [15:13] <MirandaV> :lol: How old is he nymph? [15:13] <nympheart> 13 [15:14] <fawkes28> space first smile [15:14] <dumbleydore18> Hmm...i think I will try the smily thing, every time I do it on the chat it doesn't seem to work, plus i can't remember all the commands for it, so that is a problem. hmm happy smily smile [15:14] <ltbrave23> ok i'll trade [15:14] <dumbleydore18> Yay! It worked! [15:14] <pinklaura> woo! [15:14] <dumbleydore18> okay dumbley is happy [15:14] <fawkes28> i never remember all the commands and some dont work [15:14] <fawkes28> like :squid: [15:14] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, tends to be warm down there ltbrave smile [15:14] <pinklaura> they haven't really plowed the roads that well in denver, so it's like driving in a minefield [15:14] <pinklaura> if you're not on the main roads [15:14] <MirandaV> Ahhhh...well, that explains it all...13 is such a judgemental age, and appearing to be a nerd is a big no,no....lol [15:14] <ltbrave23> yeah just a little [15:15] <dumbleydore18> one minute guys!!!!!!! [15:15] <DumbleDebbie> Denver's been getting pounded with snow, way more than normal [15:15] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:15] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [15:15] <pinklaura> yeah [15:15] <pinklaura> it's sad [15:15] <nympheart> we finally got enough snow to play in this last week, it made both me and my dog very happy [15:15] <Aislinn> hey pleshette [15:15] <nympheart> hi pleshette [15:15] <DumbleDebbie> hey Pleshette [15:15] <Joyhawk2121> hi [15:15] <MirandaV> hi pleshette [15:15] <pinklaura> and i was telling him we have mild winters [15:15] <Greeneyes15> ok, got my coffee got my blanket got my slippers...i'm ready to chat! [15:15] <pinklaura> because my roomate moved here from san diego this summer [15:15] <pinklaura> and now he thinks i'm a liar [15:15] <pinklaura> hehe [15:15] <dumbleydore18> Greeneyes what is happening to you? You keep leaving and coming back? Computer malfunction? heehee [15:16] <Aislinn> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [15:16] <Greeneyes15> hey! [15:16] <Aislinn> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [15:16] <Aislinn> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [15:16] <Aislinn> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [15:16] <Aislinn> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [15:16] <fawkes28> Ever since Dumbledore's death, Harry has had it in his mind to go back to Godric's Hollow. He plans to visit his parents' graves and then head off to track down the rest of the Horcruxes. [15:17] <fawkes28> For Harry, Godric's Hollow is where it all started. For Harry, it is the beginning of the journey that he hopes will end in Voldemort's defeat. Our topic for this P3 chat is: Revisiting Godric's Hollow: What will happen and what will Harry learn there? [15:17] <fawkes28> Will Harry need to get a map or information from Petunia before he can go to Godric's Hollow? [15:17] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think that's the info she's holding [15:17] <JaneMarple9> I think from petunia [15:17] <Greeneyes15> hummm.... [15:17] <Aislinn> I don't either debbie [15:17] <fawkes28> i think she has information or objects i dont know about a map [15:18] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:18] <nympheart> I don't think so [15:18] <DumbleDebbie> hey HF [15:18] <MirandaV> I don't think he will necessarily need info from Petunia about GH, I think the info she knows is about Lily [15:18] <JaneMarple9> she is definatly holding something back [15:18] <MirandaV> hi HF [15:18] <pinklaura> I don't think she'll have a map, as no one could know where the potter's were except peter [15:18] <fawkes28> hi hf [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Harry will be able to find it [15:18] <JaneMarple9> then again...a map's been used before [15:18] <harryfreak359> Hey everyone, sorry I am late! [15:18] <Aislinn> I do think that she has some information, but I don't think it is about Godric's Hollow [15:18] <harryfreak359> what [15:18] <harryfreak359> what [15:18] <nympheart> Petunia's hiding something, but I don't think it's the location of Godric's Hollow [15:18] <MirandaV> we just started hf [15:18] <JaneMarple9> hi harryfreak [15:18] <harryfreak359> what's the question* [15:18] <futureweasley> Petunia's got something...I don't know if it's going to be a map or at ALL related to Godric's Hollow [15:18] * harryfreak359 is having keyboard malfunctions [15:18] <fawkes28> Will Harry need to get a map or information from Petunia before he can go to Godric's Hollow? [15:18] <Greeneyes15> i dont think he'll need info from her about where it is...i dought petunia was ever even there [15:18] <DumbleDebbie> well it's just a town and it can't be an all magic town b/c the only one is Hogsmeade, so I would guess Godric's Hollow in on a normal map [15:19] <dumbleydore18> I don't think he will need anything from Petunia. Godrics Hollow is magical, Petunia is not as she is a squib, so I don't think she even knows where Godrics Hollow is. I think this information wouldbe something that Harry could get from Lupin. [15:19] <harryfreak359> I think he will need some info, but not a map [15:19] <JaneMarple9> type <<< HarryFreak smile [15:19] <nympheart> I think you're right, greeneyes, she probably doesn't even know [15:19] <harryfreak359> not that I think that it will be completely necearry for him to have it thoguh. but it might be useful [15:19] <MirandaV> I think the GH era was after Petunia cut off all contact from the Potters so I don't think he would be able to get any info from Petunia about GH specifically [15:19] <dumbleydore18> Correction: Petunia is not a squib, she is a muggle duh! [15:20] <MirandaV> You don't think Godric's Hollow could be an actual town dumbley? [15:20] <fawkes28> we don't even know if petunia has any idea where Godric's Hollow is - nor may she know anything about it [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> GH is a muggle town [15:20] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [15:20] <dumbleydore18> I've always thought that Godric's Hollow was refered to as a house... [15:20] <MirandaV> that's what I thought Sooner [15:20] <Aislinn> it is a town [15:20] <JaneMarple9> hmm perhaps she doesn't know [15:20] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:20] <DumbleDebbie> that's what I was saying Sooner, it's on any normal map [15:20] <dumbleydore18> like "Manner such and such" [15:20] <MirandaV> No, they lived in a house in Godric's Hollow [15:21] <dumbleydore18> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:21] <JaneMarple9> I imagined Godrics Hallow was a house [15:21] <dumbleydore18> same here Jane [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> Gh was the name of the town and in that town they lived in a house [15:21] <DumbleDebbie> It's "hollow" and it's a town [15:21] <JaneMarple9> but a village/two seemed much more reasonable [15:21] <Greeneyes15> what is a Hollow anyway? [15:21] <DumbleDebbie> the guy who invented the snitch lived there [15:21] <fawkes28> Who will go to Godric's Hollow? Just Harry? Just the trio? [15:21] <MirandaV> A hollow or holler like is said in the south [15:21] <pinklaura> the trio, for sure [15:21] <nympheart> I think just the trio [15:21] <pinklaura> they seemed to imply they'd be going with him [15:21] <Aislinn> The trio seems the most likely [15:21] <MirandaV> It's a geological refrence Debbie [15:22] <fawkes28> I think the trio will definitely go with him - it seems like they will at the end of the book [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that the trio will try to go, but that they might not be able to [15:22] <harryfreak359> I think that the trio will go... [15:22] <Greeneyes15> the tio [15:22] <MirandaV> The trio for sure [15:22] <dumbleydore18> I think the Trio and maybe some Order members, like Lupin or MEM [15:22] <Greeneyes15> i think harry needs them to go with him [15:22] <Greeneyes15> for support [15:22] <fawkes28> Harry may want to be allow at certain times which I think Ron and Hermione will definitely give him that space [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron and Hermione may go with himto the town, but what if they cant go into the rubble of the hous because of the fidelius charm [15:22] <fawkes28> *alone [15:22] <Greeneyes15> i dont think any order mems need to go? do they [15:23] *** Spown has joined #lounge [15:23] <dumbleydore18> good point sooner [15:23] <Spown> hello [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Spown [15:23] <Aislinn> hi spown [15:23] <Greeneyes15> hi spown [15:23] <nympheart> i think their being able to enter the house depends on exactly what the secret was [15:23] <DumbleDebbie> from the lexicon "Godric's Hollow is a Muggle village1 where Lily and James Potter were hiding from Voldemort in October of 1981." [15:23] <Joyhawk2121> hi [15:23] <pinklaura> I think that's possible, sooner [15:23] <MirandaV> hi spown [15:23] <JaneMarple9> Ever since the book title I'd had terrible difficulties with Hollow and Hallow sad [15:23] <Spown> can someone tell me what the current questions is? [15:23] <fawkes28> repeat: Who will go to Godric's Hollow? Just Harry? Just the trio? [15:23] <nympheart> actually, I just remembered that Hagrid was able to get in, so Ron and Hermione probably won't have a problem [15:24] <DumbleDebbie> you think it's still in effect Sooner? that makes it even curiouser how Hagrid got Harry out [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think jus the trio if no one follows them [15:24] <Spown> thank you [15:24] <Greeneyes15> does the fidelius charm still work on the house? [15:24] <pinklaura> true, nymph [15:24] <Pleshette> Hi everyone---sorry, phone [15:24] <futureweasley> I agree Sooner, I think that fidelius charm might have some sort of adverse effect on what can happen there. Will Ron & Hermione be able to see what is going on there? [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think the fidelius charm was on the people instead of the house [15:24] <MirandaV> a small valley between mountains is called a hollow Debbie [15:24] <Pleshette> I agree Sooner [15:24] <pinklaura> Harry was one of the people the fidelius charm was for, though [15:24] <Spown> I think Hermione and Ron would certainly want to go with Harry to the house but ultimately it would be Harry who enters the house/finds something important [15:24] <dumbleydore18> Sooner, I also think that because Lily and James have left the house that the fidelious charm is gone. What would happen if the trio got to the house and there was someone else living there? In my minds eye I've seen the house as old, dank, dark,and run down. [15:25] <pinklaura> and he's still alive, so it might be in play [15:25] <nympheart> didn't the house blow up though? Is it even still there? [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> No would be living in the house unless it was rebuilt [15:25] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:25] <pinklaura> I thought the house was destroyed [15:25] <Pleshette> Sorry, but wasn't the house destroyed? [15:25] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:25] <MirandaV> I think so to Sooner, does the fidelious charm even work since James and Lily are dead...it may not work [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea Miranda [15:25] <JaneMarple9> the whole trio for me [15:25] <fawkes28> Jo said that Godric's Hollow is a village. Where in the UK do you think Godric's Hollow is located? [15:26] <DumbleDebbie> south Wales [15:26] <Pleshette> no idea [15:26] <Greeneyes15> i don't know anythink about the uk! sad [15:26] <JaneMarple9> South Wales [15:26] <fawkes28> sounds good to me [15:26] <MirandaV> I'm not even going to speculate on this one...where are there mountains??? That's where a hollow would be [15:26] <Spown> near the deathly hallow lol. I would say it's more like north of london, close to ministry protection, etc [15:26] <dumbleydore18> I think somewhere between the countryside and the city... [15:26] <Aislinn> Hagrid flew over Bristol, so that might give a clue [15:26] <futureweasley> I know nothing about Geography in the UK...I am horrible about it, actually [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> Besides Jane, any UK people here? [15:26] <DumbleDebbie> there are plenty of mountains in Wales [15:26] <JaneMarple9> or North Yorkshire way...because there us a place called Snape smile [15:26] <nympheart> maybe, maybe not Aislinn, there's the missing day [15:27] <DumbleDebbie> lol Jane [15:27] <futureweasley> hmmm, Jane...you know [15:27] <fawkes28> lol that is great, Jane [15:27] <MirandaV> I like it Jane [15:27] <fawkes28> Is Godric's Hollow named after Godric Gryffindor? Did he ever live there? Did he name it or did someone else name it after him? [15:27] <dumbleydore18> could it be in the town that Jo grew up in as a child? [15:27] <futureweasley> that's making me think that the Evans/Snape childhood friends theory is more cognitive now [15:27] <nympheart> I think it's named after him and he lived there [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I do think the town was named after him] [15:27] <harryfreak359> I always thought that it was named after him [15:27] <Pleshette> Yes me too [15:27] <JaneMarple9> There really is smile Although probably nothing to do with it [15:28] <JaneMarple9> no she grew up somewhere begining with C [15:28] <DumbleDebbie> It does seem too much of a coincidence to not be named after him [15:28] <Aislinn> I believe that Jo said something about it being significant that it is names Godric and that Gryffindor's name is Godric [15:28] <Spown> I think it's name after Godric Gryffindor because he used to live there or something important happened there during his years [15:28] <Spown> *named [15:28] <JaneMarple9> Yes i'd say Godric's Hollow is connected with Gryffindor [15:28] <fawkes28> i wonder if he didn't live there than why that specific town was named after him [15:28] <MirandaV> I think it's named after him, maybe he lived there...he may have built the first home in the area or something [15:28] <Spown> yeah true [15:28] <MirandaV> That's how a lot of things get name [15:28] <JaneMarple9> but there is also a place called Dudley in England too! [15:28] <MirandaV> oops named [15:29] <pinklaura> If it's where Godric lived, then it could also be a likely place for a horcrux to be hidden, since it would be symbolic to LV [15:29] <DumbleDebbie> hee hee Jane [15:29] <nympheart> lol that's awesome Jane! [15:29] * DumbleDebbie things Jane has been pouring over maps lately [15:29] <DumbleDebbie> *thinks [15:29] <JaneMarple9> No vernon or petunia though! [15:29] <dumbleydore18> If Godrics Hollow is a muggle town/village, I don't think it was named afrer someone magical. I mean we don't really know if Godrics Hollow is magical or not. It could be like Grimmauld place, hidden. Or it could be similar to diagon alley...a magical shopping center squished into the middle of london... [15:29] <MirandaV> how do you do that star thingy [15:29] <fawkes28> it could be named in his memory rather than him living there [15:29] <nympheart> It was probably a magical town and muggles came later [15:30] <JaneMarple9> yes it does seem a good place to hide a horcrux [15:30] <fawkes28> but i do not think it is a coincidence that Harry and his family happened to be under the fidelius charm there [15:30] <MirandaV> They probably didn't know he was magical dumbley if it was named after the first home owner in the area it wouldn't have matter if he was magic or muggle [15:30] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:30] <DumbleDebbie> he could have very likely been a well known figure in both the magical and Muggle worlds since he didn't harbor the anti-Muggle prejudice of Slytherin [15:30] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:30] <Spown> maybe godric's hollow is the name of a house where godric gryffindor used to hide among the muggles [15:30] <fawkes28> some people think that Dumbledore owned the house that Harry's family stayed at [15:30] <JaneMarple9> there has to be a ca connection [15:30] <Spown> yeah i agree with dd [15:30] <Pleshette> It just seems to be too much of a coincidence that the town and Gryffindor have the same name [15:31] <fawkes28> and thus some people believe that DD is related to GG [15:31] <Aislinn> I agree pleshette [15:31] <DumbleDebbie> exactly Pleshette [15:31] <MirandaV> yes pleshette [15:31] *** griffinclaw has joined #lounge [15:31] <fawkes28> Who owns the land where the Potter house was? Is there a new building on the land? [15:31] <Pleshette> Perhaps Godric did something significant for Muggles and the town was named after him [15:31] <nympheart> hi griffin [15:31] <DumbleDebbie> hi griffinclaw [15:31] <MirandaV> hi griffinclaw [15:31] <griffinclaw> Hi Guys [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that the house belonged to DD [15:31] <Pleshette> Dumbledore [15:31] <nympheart> I think Harry probably technically owns it [15:31] <MirandaV> If DD owned it I think he would have left it the way it was [15:32] <Spown> i think it's school property [15:32] <dumbleydore18> or sooner, someone related to DD like AD [15:32] <Aislinn> I think it's possible that the Potters owned it themselves - they were not short of money [15:32] <fawkes28> Dumbledore has many connections and seems to be everywhere [15:32] *** DumbleDebbie has quit [Bye] [15:32] <griffinclaw> I think HArry owns it [15:32] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [15:32] <Pleshette> Oo could be dumbleydore [15:32] <MirandaV> They hadn't been living there that long correct...like 2 weeks or something...or am I imagining things? [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> you are right Miranda [15:32] <fawkes28> well, i dont think they owned it because they seemed to have been on the run before this [15:32] <Pleshette> I think you're right Miranda [15:32] <DumbleDebbie> I doubt there's another bulding. It seems like the kind of place where evil would linger and people wouldn't want to be there [15:32] <Spown> yeah i agree with fawkes [15:33] *** Love4Fawkes has joined #lounge [15:33] <nympheart> hi love [15:33] <MirandaV> I don't think that they owned it either [15:33] <griffinclaw> Hi love [15:33] <DumbleDebbie> hi love [15:33] <Pleshette> Hi L4F [15:33] <MirandaV> Hi Love [15:33] <Love4Fawkes> hi everyone [15:33] <Greeneyes15> *wipes a tear from her eye* i'm gonna have to dunk out of the chat for now cuz im having some computer probs. i was really lookin forward to this chat too...well i'lltry to jion in again later.bye! [15:33] <DumbleDebbie> bye greeneyes [15:33] <nympheart> bye greeneyes [15:33] <MirandaV> bye Greeneyes [15:33] <Pleshette> Bye Greeneyes [15:33] <Spown> bye good luck with the comp [15:33] <Joyhawk2121> does anyone know how long they lived there before that night? [15:33] <Aislinn> bye greeneyes [15:33] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:33] <MirandaV> 2 weeks Joy [15:33] <Spown> i don't think it was long [15:33] <Joyhawk2121> oh [15:33] <nympheart> two weeks since the fidilus charm was performed [15:33] <fawkes28> Will we find out why the Potters were hiding in Godric's Hollow at that particular house? [15:33] <dumbleydore18> I can't really think of who could own the land. I don't think that lily or james had enough money to buy land from GH plus the money for the house...I do see Dumbledore as a likely person as he was helping them hide. [15:33] <Spown> yeah they were killed a little after the fidelius charm [15:34] <DumbleDebbie> I certainly hope so [15:34] <harryfreak359> I hope so for sure! [15:34] <griffinclaw> I would/ve thought so [15:34] <Spown> i think so...hopefully [15:34] <Aislinn> yes, I think we will learn a lot more about the events surrounding their hiding in Godrics Hollow [15:34] <fawkes28> i am sure that we will [15:34] <Love4Fawkes> i think we definately will. it seems like it will turn out to be very important [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I do think that we will learn that information [15:34] <dumbleydore18> We better find out or i'm going on a Jo hunt to ask her who, where, what, why, and when, and how? [15:34] <fawkes28> either through some type of memory or letter to harry [15:34] <Spown> lol [15:34] <Love4Fawkes> i'll join you dumbley [15:34] <MirandaV> They were hiding from LV so we know the why of hiding, but I guess not the why of that house, it's probably very important [15:34] <nympheart> I'll join you dumbley! [15:34] <DumbleDebbie> lol dumbley [15:35] <MirandaV> lol dumbley [15:35] <fawkes28> there are more questions right now than answers and jo has promised us some answers [15:35] <JaneMarple9> Not sure who owns Godric now [15:35] <MirandaV> laugh [15:35] <Spown> I've always thought that there is a bottle of memories left behind, hidden somewhere from harry's parents to him [15:35] * DumbleDebbie can see the headline "Rowling stalkers arrested in Edinburgh" [15:35] <JaneMarple9> Dumble seems a good bet [15:35] *** Poet has joined #lounge [15:35] <griffinclaw> lol [15:35] <DumbleDebbie> hi Poet [15:35] <MirandaV> I got another one to work...yes! [15:35] <nympheart> hi poet [15:35] <griffinclaw> Hi Poet [15:35] <MirandaV> hi poet [15:35] <Love4Fawkes> hi poet [15:36] <Pleshette> Hi Poet! [15:36] <dumbleydore18> hahaha...do Debbie I would be humbley about it. No stalker here. [15:36] <Aislinn> hey poet smile [15:36] <Poet> smile [15:36] <fawkes28> Are the Potters buried in Godric's Hollow? Why were they buried there instead of somewhere else? [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> Well, according to what Harry said, it seems as if they are [15:36] <nympheart> Harry seems to think so [15:36] <Spown> i don't think they are buried at all... [15:36] <DumbleDebbie> Harry seems to think they are [15:36] <harryfreak359> I think they are...or at least it seems so [15:36] <MirandaV> I think so, since Harry says if he goes to GH he can visit his parents graves [15:36] <Aislinn> Was there anything left to bury? [15:36] <JaneMarple9> i'd say so [15:36] <Spown> yeah exactly [15:36] <nympheart> I hope they are spown [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> AK leaves the body whole [15:36] <Pleshette> That's what I wonder Ais [15:36] <Spown> the whole hosue is their grave [15:36] <DumbleDebbie> the AK doesn't leave a mark on people [15:36] <Spown> house [15:37] <Aislinn> but the house being in shambles [15:37] <DumbleDebbie> the house exploding may have made a bit of a mess [15:37] <Spown> yeah [15:37] <MirandaV> yes, Sooner and Dumble [15:37] <Poet> I think they're buried there. Harry seemed sure of it, so someone must have told him. [15:37] <Aislinn> makes me wonder what happened with the rebounding curse [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> but Harry was found alive in the house [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> so it could not have been that destructive [15:37] <MirandaV> that probably just means they have perimortum broken bones [15:37] <Spown> he was protected [15:37] <JaneMarple9> james and lily must be buried somewhere [15:37] <nympheart> And there was nothing left of LV's body [15:37] <futureweasley> their graves may be there, but I don't think their bodies are. I think that LV has procurred them to work in his army of inferi [15:37] <Joyhawk2121> wonder if there was a funeral [15:37] <fawkes28> the house may have harmed their bodies - we dont know when there bodies were removed [15:37] <DumbleDebbie> ewww FW [15:37] <Spown> the curse "bounced" off of him and destroyed the house barabar with LV [15:37] <Poet> Maybe they were buried in Godric's Hollow because some of their ancestors have graves there too. [15:37] <MirandaV> I think even dead they wouldn't do that FW [15:37] <Love4Fawkes> i think they must be buried there, which makes me think that they must have had some ties there [15:37] <DumbleDebbie> that'd be awful to have Harry see them like that [15:38] <pinklaura> why hasn't harry ever read a newspaper archive or something [15:38] <Spown> lol go to google [15:38] <harryfreak359> Yeah I had thought about that Future, creeps me out [15:38] <pinklaura> i feel like they would have obituaries [15:38] <dumbleydore18> (On Topic) I don't see the potter burried at GH. To me is seems weird to have people buried in their own back yard. I see them having more of a traditional burial, remember: they were liked my many. [15:38] * DumbleDebbie works to get the image of inferi Potters out of her head [15:38] <ltbrave23> i also don't think that the potters are buried there [15:38] <MirandaV> There could have been a graveyard nearby though [15:38] <Love4Fawkes> you're right dumbley, but they could have had a traditional burial in a cemetary in GH [15:38] <MirandaV> in GH [15:38] <Pleshette> If they are buried I think they would be in GH [15:39] <JaneMarple9> don't think the Wizarding world would publish obiteries [15:39] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [15:39] <JaneMarple9> no need too [15:39] <futureweasley> it's totally creepy, but I wouldn't put it past LV to do anything like that [15:39] <Pleshette> Or Jo wink [15:39] <fawkes28> i doubt he would do that - i think the sole purpose is for him to be able to visit their grave's in peace [15:39] <DumbleDebbie> but he was split body from soul seconds after he killed Lily [15:40] <fawkes28> Will Harry come to any important realizations while at his parents' grave site? [15:40] <MirandaV> he didn't have form, he couldn't steal the bodies [15:40] <Aislinn> it would depend on him knowing where they are buried,a nd there would need to be a reason for him to feel that was a good thing to do [15:40] <Poet> It will be more real to him that they were killed and why. [15:40] <Pleshette> I agree Ais [15:40] <nympheart> I think he will, I have no idea what though [15:40] <ltbrave23> i don't think so, i think it may make him fully realize the sacrifice they made [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I can't decide [15:40] <Aislinn> I think there has to be something significant that he will learn there [15:40] <pinklaura> i think the purpose of visiting them is to give hiimself that final resolve to finish LV [15:40] <Aislinn> no idea what it will be though [15:40] <fawkes28> I think it will make it even more real to him and give him that final determination to defeat voldemort no matter what [15:40] <MirandaV> I definitely think yes. I think he will find something at GH that will point him in the right direction for the horcrux hunt [15:40] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he'll get some magical vibes, or maybe he'll have some sort of vision or something [15:40] <Poet> Maybe it will give him a chance to start to focus on the task before him [15:40] <Love4Fawkes> i agree pink [15:40] <pinklaura> word, fawkes [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm not sure that actually getting to GH or visiting GH is going to give him the realizations [15:41] <Aislinn> I think it will be something more concrete than that, fawkes [15:41] <MirandaV> me too Aislinn [15:41] <DumbleDebbie> me to Aislinn [15:41] <Pleshette> I think at the end of HBP he already has that resolve to focus on his purpose [15:41] <fawkes28> no i just think that he will have more peace because of this event [15:42] <fawkes28> I think the only thing he will gain from this visit is truth [15:42] <Joyhawk2121> me to fawkes [15:42] <Love4Fawkes> i think he's going to find a lot in GH information, inspiration, the works [15:42] <nympheart> it just seems like at the moment, he doesn't know where he's going after GH, so I think he'll discover something there [15:42] <MirandaV> I agree pleshette, he will need to finish mourning DD, but he's good at recovery and he will go on [15:42] <DumbleDebbie> I think it has to me a much more solid plot point for it to have been placed so clearly in HBP [15:42] <Poet> It might remind him of being in front of the Mirror of Erised [15:42] <Pleshette> Maybe like you said fawkes this is to give him some peace knowing what sacrifice may be asked of him [15:42] <DumbleDebbie> *be [15:42] <dumbleydore18> I've had a theory that james and lily left something for Harry at their grave sites, a clue for something, not necasarily for a horcrux, but maybe for something or someone to help Harry out. [15:42] <JaneMarple9> oh GH will be very important [15:42] <JaneMarple9> has to be [15:42] <Love4Fawkes> i agree dumbley, there will be clues left in GH [15:43] <MirandaV> I think it will be something along those lines dumbley...I really think he will find a clue about where to start his search [15:43] <Love4Fawkes> but maybe not by james and lily, maybe by DD [15:43] <JaneMarple9> i'd wondered that dd18 - but leaning towards Petunia now [15:43] <pinklaura> if his parent's house hasn't been changed since it was destroyed, he might be able to piece together what happened that night [15:43] <Pleshette> Yes, I think there will be some kind of clue as well [15:43] <Poet> They will have moved on, and I don't think there will be any objects at the grave [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> what I dont understand is how dead people left something fter they died [15:43] <MirandaV> I thought maybe Petunia's secret was linked to Lily's eyes Jane [15:43] <pinklaura> or find something that gives away who the "other person" who was there the night the potters were killed is [15:43] <DumbleDebbie> lol I was thinking that too Sooner [15:43] <fawkes28> i dont understand that either, sooner [15:44] <MirandaV> I don't think Lily and James necessarily left the clue...I just think there will be clues [15:44] <fawkes28> What happened to Voldemort's first body? Did it "survive" and was it also buried in Godric's Hollow? [15:44] <Pleshette> I agree Miranda [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I hope not [15:44] <DumbleDebbie> ooo, that's interesting [15:44] <nympheart> I think perhaps Wormtail took it when he took the wand [15:44] <MirandaV> Good question...I never thought about that...how creepy [15:44] <Aislinn> Hmmmmm [15:44] <Love4Fawkes> i've never given this much thought. . . interesting [15:44] <pinklaura> that's scary [15:44] <Aislinn> I think it was destroyed [15:44] <DumbleDebbie> maybe whoever retrieved Voldy's wand also retrieved the body [15:44] <Poet> I hope Wormtail transfigured and buried it somewhere - where we never hear from it [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe it was burned [15:44] <fawkes28> i dont think that his body was buried in GH - i think that it would be an insult to the village [15:44] <JaneMarple9> never thought of it [15:44] <Pleshette> Is that was used to create Babymort in GoF? [15:45] <dumbleydore18> my question is what other villages are near GH? Could those villages play a role in the last book? I mean i'm sure lily and james didn't stay in their house their whole living lives together, I mean they had to go shopping for food and clothing. I think the surrounding towns will be important [15:45] <Pleshette> *what [15:45] <Love4Fawkes> no one would want LV's body buried in their cemetary [15:45] <JaneMarple9> hopefully good for nothing [15:45] <DumbleDebbie> "babymort" seemed more fetal to me Pleshette [15:45] <futureweasley> I think it's safe to say that I have absolutely idea who this worked out. I am confused about Horcruxes and the bodies they leave behind [15:45] <Joyhawk2121> I dont know being they were in hiding [15:45] <MirandaV> Someone else probably did the shopping for them dumbley...the fidelious charm seems to apply to the building not the people [15:45] <Pleshette> true Debbie [15:45] <futureweasley> *how [15:46] <dumbleydore18> Voldemorts body was probably taken away by a death eater, wormtail maybe, to be rejuvinated or cared for. [15:46] <pinklaura> no, the fidelius applies to the people, i think [15:46] <Aislinn> It seemed like twisted alchemy to me - the creation of the babymort, and not something related to his former body [15:46] <fawkes28> I do wonder if Peter would have taken the time to move his body or if he would have just run from the village - i am more inclined to believe that he ran [15:46] <pinklaura> because Jo said you could walk up to a house where people were hiding and look in the windows and not see them [15:46] <futureweasley> well, I can see that...the body is a vessel of the soul [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally think that his body may have been cremated [15:46] <Poet> I hope the body ended up in a morgue and was buried in a potter's grave [15:46] <DumbleDebbie> 'twisted' fits Voldy just right eh Aislinn wink [15:46] <Aislinn> He had to have run pretty quickly - I think Sirius met up with himm not long after the events of that night [15:46] <futureweasley> but I don't think that Pettigrew would have done anything to do with the scene after it went down [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> Maybe he was a "John Doe" [15:47] <DumbleDebbie> by the explosion Sooner? or by the DE? [15:47] <Pleshette> Snape knows a lot of Dark Magic; perhaps if he was there, he retrieved the body [15:47] <Poet> I agree [15:47] <nympheart> Jo said Peter took the wand [15:47] <dumbleydore18> why would Voldemorts body be worthy of being burried in a Potters grave....he killed them!!!! [15:47] <Aislinn> so, you believe that snape was still on the dark side at that point pleshette? [15:47] <JaneMarple9> ok whats a "John Doe"? [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I have a feeling now that his body ended up in the local muggle morgue [15:47] <fawkes28> yes, dd18, i highly doubt he would have been buried there [15:47] <Pleshette> I don't trust Snape at all [15:47] <DumbleDebbie> an unidentified victim Jane [15:47] <Poet> A potter's grave is a grave where you dump poor unknown people in a church graveyard [15:47] <DumbleDebbie> "Jane Doe" for a female [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> John Doe is an unidentified dead body [15:48] <JaneMarple9> right [15:48] <JaneMarple9> ty [15:48] *** NYBookworm has joined #lounge [15:48] <DumbleDebbie> hi NYB [15:48] <fawkes28> hi NYB [15:48] <nympheart> hi NYB [15:48] <Aislinn> hi NYB [15:48] <Joyhawk2121> hi [15:48] <NYBookworm> hi [15:48] <Joyhawk2121> hi [15:48] <Pleshette> Hi NYBookworm [15:48] <fawkes28> How many people are living in Godric's Hollow? Are there any magical people living there right now? [15:48] <JaneMarple9> A Jane Doe smile Interesting! [15:48] <Love4Fawkes> hi NYB [15:48] <JaneMarple9> Hi NYB [15:48] <harryfreak359> I think that it is probably mostly muggles...at least thats what I got the feeling of [15:48] <griffinclaw> Hi NYb [15:49] <DumbleDebbie> magical people seem to be spread all over, so there are probably some there [15:49] <nympheart> I don't think GH would be heavily populated, but I can see a wizard family there [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that there may be, but that there is a very small percentage if there are [15:49] <dumbleydore18> oh Poet I thought you meant like the "Potter's" grave as in Lily and James Potter....I was like "omg no!!!!!!" [15:49] <Poet> When Jo answered about it being a town or house, she said village, so I assume it's not very big [15:49] <Love4Fawkes> i see godric's hollow as a small village with some magical people [15:49] <fawkes28> It is problably very similar to the town the Dursley'd are living in - just like any other normal town [15:49] <Aislinn> I do believe that it is a village that is connected to Godric Gryffindor, and as such, probably still has some wizarding connections [15:49] <DumbleDebbie> if it's a 'village' it must be fairly small [15:49] <JaneMarple9> I don;t think anyone will be living there [15:49] <JaneMarple9> very convienient [15:49] <griffinclaw> We know the guy who invented the Snitch lived there but that was ages ago but his decendents might live there [15:49] <fawkes28> there may be a member of the order there now just to keep a look out for Voldemort and company [15:49] <pinklaura> i think there would only be magical folks there if they're there to somehow preserve the state of the house the potter's were killed in. [15:49] <Aislinn> so there may be some wizarding families living there. I don't think that it is a big village [15:49] <harryfreak359> ahhh shoot, gotta go, my friends bday. Bye everyone!!! *hugs* [15:49] <Pleshette> Nice one griffinclaw smile [15:50] <nympheart> bye harryfreak! [15:50] <DumbleDebbie> bye HF [15:50] <Aislinn> bye hf [15:50] <harryfreak359> have a fun chat everyone [15:50] <Joyhawk2121> bye [15:50] <Pleshette> bye harryfreak [15:50] <JaneMarple9> bye hf! [15:50] <Aislinn> that's a good point griffinclaw [15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> bye hf [15:50] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [15:50] <MirandaV> yes, you are right pink, I looked it up on the lexicon [15:50] <dumbleydore18> I think Godrics Hollow is a small community town with maybe 100 to 200 people, If the Potters were famous they probably wanted to escape all the hubbub of popularity and by doing that they lived in a small village / town. [15:50] <Poet> I hope there is one magical family there at least [15:50] <fawkes28> there always seems to be wizards in different towns - especially if this town is named in honor of GG [15:50] <JaneMarple9> perhaps one or two in the village [15:50] <Poet> Or some in the area..... [15:50] <JaneMarple9> but nobody in the Potter vincinity [15:51] <fawkes28> Bowman Wright, the creator of the Snitch, was from Godric's Hollow. Do any of his descendants still live there? [15:51] <MirandaV> majorly lagging here [15:51] <nympheart> I think so [15:51] <Aislinn> I would not be at all surprised [15:51] <Poet> I sure hope so. In fact, I hope the Potters were related [15:51] <Love4Fawkes> i think so [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> This is who I think Harry might be related to [15:51] <JaneMarple9> don't think so [15:51] <nympheart> I like that idea, poet and sooner [15:51] <fawkes28> that would be interesting if Harry had the opportunity to meet some of his descendants [15:51] <JaneMarple9> he'd just be another background character [15:51] <DumbleDebbie> some might be buried there wink [15:51] <Poet> And that may have been where some of the Potter wealth came from [15:52] <MirandaV> I'm completely behind now [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Poet [15:52] <dumbleydore18> I have a feeling that Harry will get infor from neighbors back when lily and james lived there. Or from people that live there now. [15:52] <Aislinn> it would be so appropriate for the youngest Seeker of a century to be descended from the inventor of the Snitch [15:52] <MirandaV> That would be interesting Poet [15:52] <DumbleDebbie> that would make sense Poet [15:52] <JaneMarple9> can't see the connection withWright and Potter [15:52] <Poet> So maybe he'll see Bowman Wright's grave when he goes to visit his parents [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that we are suppossed to find out in the next book where the Potters wealth came from so this might tie in quite nicely [15:52] <MirandaV> yes it would Aislinn [15:52] <Pleshette> That would be so cool! [15:52] <fawkes28> i this this person could give harry more information on his family and his past rather than his future endeavors [15:53] <Love4Fawkes> i agree fawkes [15:53] <MirandaV> which may end up helping him in his future endeavors also fawkes [15:53] <DumbleDebbie> yes Aislinn, he had it in his genes ;) [15:53] <fawkes28> i think harry learning about his past with give him more confidence to continue on with the future [15:53] <JaneMarple9> can't see how someone who invented Quidditch could help Harry [15:54] <JaneMarple9> he got his Quidditch skills from James [15:54] <nympheart> but then where did James get them from? [15:54] <Love4Fawkes> and who did james get his skills from? [15:54] <Poet> Harry is the ultimate seeker in Book 7 afterall [15:54] <MirandaV> he could help him understand his family history Jane [15:54] <Love4Fawkes> you never know who maybe helpful in a quest [15:54] <Joyhawk2121> What about this mysterious R.A.B could he help? 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[16:02] <fawkes28> there is a big difference hearing about what happened and godric's hollow that night and being at that location
[16:02] <Pleshette> Yes NYB [16:02] <JaneMarple9> hmmm lily or james memories in the pensieve [16:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I think sensing magic is either something you have or you dont [16:02] <Aislinn> right fawkes [16:02] <JaneMarple9> that could be enlightening [16:02] <MirandaV> I agree sooner [16:02] <DumbleDebbie> yes Sooner [16:03] <fawkes28> I think that Harry will have to use his memory of that night with a pensieve to be able to see what happened that night [16:03] <Aislinn> so you think that Harry could use a pensieve to pull his own memory of the event and examine it, NYB? [16:03] <Poet> I definitely think he could. I hope he thinks of this when he is in Godric's Hollow. [16:03] <dumbleydore18> I can see that as a possibility. [16:03] <MirandaV> I think you are on to something there fawkes, after all Harry does have the memory in his own head [16:03] <Joyhawk2121> I think his parents memories is the place to start [16:03] <fawkes28> Because the pensieve memory gives us an objective view of what happened - not just from baby harry's perspective [16:03] <DumbleDebbie> that would be interesting [16:03] <NYBookworm> yep I think he will [16:04] <JaneMarple9> not his own memory but perhaps some of his parents [16:04] <Love4Fawkes> maybe being at GH will make the memory more clear and there for better able to pull out and view [16:04] <Pleshette> I think so too fawkes [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> but wouldnt you have to remember the memory to be able to retrieve it? [16:04] <nympheart> I doubt that Harry's memory would work. We know memories can be altered intentionally and I think Harry was just too young to remember the whole picture [16:04] <fawkes28> but he does remember parts of it, sooner - i dont think he needs to remember the whole thing [16:04] <Joyhawk2121> would there memories be stored somewhere [16:04] <JaneMarple9> yes nymph [16:04] <DumbleDebbie> maybe his abilty to remember part of that night would allow him to snag the full memory and then view it [16:04] <fawkes28> dumbledore says that he uses his memories to better examined the events that happened [16:05] <MirandaV> not necessarily Joy [16:05] <Poet> Jo said that you don't have to have seen everything that happened around you - you can see things that were even behind you - so I think Harry will be able to look at things a baby wouldn't remember [16:05] <Love4Fawkes> that's what i was trying to say debbie. you said it much better! [16:05] <dumbleydore18> not really sooner, there are memories that a person remembers on a daily babis, then there are suppressed memories that one has to pull out. [16:05] <Pleshette> As a young child maybe he'll remember the conversations he heard at GH [16:05] <DumbleDebbie> right Poet [16:05] <MirandaV> yes fawkes, I agree poet [16:05] <pinklaura> and, it seems that he remembers the night very vividly, at least what he heard as a baby [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> I just think that logistically he will not be able to pull out a memory from when he was 15 months old [16:05] <fawkes28> he just needs to figure out how to get it into the pensieve - since DD never taught him that [16:06] <Love4Fawkes> oh right fawkes, i hadn't thought of that [16:06] <Joyhawk2121> you don't think his parents might have pulled important memories out? [16:06] <nympheart> I agree sooner, infantile amnesia [16:06] <pinklaura> dang, that's true, he doesn't know how to get it out of his head [16:06] <dumbleydore18> but what about suppressed memories? [16:06] <JaneMarple9> well he fell into the pensieve a few times in book 4 [16:06] <Love4Fawkes> i'm sure he'll figure it out [16:06] <Poet> He remembers the flash of light so I think he can pull that out and then try and pull stuff from around it out [16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> but how do you access a suppressed memory? [16:06] <MirandaV> its not that I don't think they did Joy, but their memory of that night couldn't have been pulled out before they died [16:06] <pinklaura> it's probably in some book somewhere [16:06] <JaneMarple9> hermione will find a book to help them [16:06] <Love4Fawkes> suppressed memories are there, he just needs to find away to call the memories out [16:06] <fawkes28> but his parents did not know he was going to survive [16:07] <fawkes28> why would they pull memories out? [16:07] <JaneMarple9> :) great minds laua! [16:07] <DumbleDebbie> he'll have to look in his memory catalog for dewey decimal entries before and after the 'green flash' wink [16:07] <pinklaura> and how could the pull memories out while being accosted by voldie? [16:07] <JaneMarple9> they might have done so in panic [16:07] <MirandaV> I don't really think they did either fawkes [16:07] <nympheart> but those suppressed memories are traumatic, would they still be intelligable? [16:07] <fawkes28> yes, because memories are objective [16:08] <dumbleydore18> I don't know, just pull it out of your brain, maybe he will learn from other teachers how to use the pensieve. like Slug horn or something. [16:08] <JaneMarple9> or someone might have warned them, and took the nemories before coldie cane trick or treating [16:08] <Love4Fawkes> once you actually remember a suppressed memory they are fairly accurate i believe [16:08] <pinklaura> but, don't we see that he remembers the night already because of his interaction with the dementors? i don't think it's suppressed at all [16:08] <fawkes28> Will visiting Godric's Hollow get Harry asking more questions about what happened in the hours just before and after his parents' deaths? [16:08] <Joyhawk2121> for him maybe what they doing. i mean they were in hiding not knowing what could happen [16:08] <MirandaV> Right before they died they pulled a memory out of their head of what was going on at that exact moment in case Harry survived??? I don't find that very plausible [16:08] <JaneMarple9> Coldie biggrin Voldie too! [16:08] <Pleshette> I don't think he'll find Lily and James' memories, they wouldn't have had time [16:08] <fawkes28> it better get him asking more questions [16:08] <Aislinn> it must do so [16:08] <fawkes28> i am very curious [16:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I certainly hope it does [16:08] <NYBookworm> I hope it does get him to ask more questions because htt' what we all want to know [16:08] <DumbleDebbie> hopefully he'll get both questions and some answers [16:08] <nympheart> I think he'll get answers rather than questions [16:08] <MirandaV> I hope so [16:09] <pinklaura> i hope it leads us to finding out what happened before and in the 24 hours after the attack [16:09] <NYBookworm> those missing 24 hours have got to have some important things [16:09] *** EmilyVizi has joined #lounge [16:09] <DumbleDebbie> hi Emily [16:09] <Love4Fawkes> i hope he gets answers rather than questions. i don't think harry or any of us can handle more questions [16:09] <MirandaV> hi emily [16:09] <Pleshette> hi emily [16:09] <EmilyVizi> hi everyone [16:09] <nympheart> hi emily [16:09] <MirandaV> true love4 [16:09] <Love4Fawkes> hi emily [16:09] <Poet> I think Harry will sometime, somehow in Book 7 Harry will find out everything that happened in those hours before and after [16:09] <fawkes28> I don't think Jo would have Harry visit GH for no purpose - I think she is sending him there so that he does learn more about what happened that night [16:09] <Love4Fawkes> i think so too poet [16:09] <EmilyVizi> good idea fawkes [16:10] <MirandaV> i agree with poey & fawkes [16:11] <Love4Fawkes> hagrid might have answers too. he ran into sirius before he went to get harry [16:11] <JaneMarple9> hi emily [16:11] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [16:11] <MirandaV> oops poet [16:11] <Pleshette> Yes, Book 7 is the book of answers to what happened that night (I hope!) [16:11] <EmilyVizi> maybe he will go to hagrid [16:11] <Poet> Ooo - that's right Love4Fawkes - Harry will remember this and hopefully ask Hagrid as soon as he can [16:11] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [16:11] *** NiGHTS has joined #lounge [16:11] <JaneMarple9> testing [16:11] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [16:11] <JaneMarple9> yep [16:11] <Pleshette> Hi NiGHTS [16:11] <DumbleDebbie> hi nights, wb Jane [16:11] <fawkes28> hi jane [16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> we see you Jane [16:11] <MirandaV> hi nights [16:11] <Love4Fawkes> hi nights [16:11] <JaneMarple9> ty smile [16:11] <NiGHTS> Hiya everyone 8-) [16:11] <Aislinn> yes, Poet, I completely agree [16:11] <nympheart> my brother who insists we are all nerds wants his opinion that Harry will not ask questions to be known [16:11] <JaneMarple9> Hi Nights [16:11] <fawkes28> Will Harry find anyone in Godric's Hollow who saw Voldemort? Did anyone see who else might have come to the Potters that night? [16:11] <nympheart> hi nights [16:12] *** EmilyVizi has quit [Bye] [16:12] <JaneMarple9> smile tell your brother thanks smile [16:12] <DumbleDebbie> I doubt it [16:12] <Poet> It would be hard for someone to remember back that far - except a house DID blow up that night [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think he will be talking to anyone [16:12] <fawkes28> i cant imagine anyone seeing him besides whoever was under the cloack and perhaps peter [16:12] <MirandaV> well tell him we don't care for non nerd opinion... laugh [16:12] <Love4Fawkes> if someone saw another person come with LV, i can't believe they would have kept silent for so long [16:12] <JaneMarple9> he might find a old wizard or witch [16:12] <NiGHTS> I wonder if harry is going to have to do a Dumbledore and do some investigating ... he may have to interview a few muggles ! [16:12] <Poet> Maybe there will be something in a newspaper about seeing a greasy haired guy hanging out before the house blew up [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [16:12] <fawkes28> LOL [16:12] <NYBookworm> poet smile [16:12] <JaneMarple9> laugh [16:12] <MirandaV> lol poet [16:12] <nympheart> lol [16:12] <Aislinn> I don't think he will find anyone at Godrics Hollow, but he will probably talk to Peter at some point [16:12] <fawkes28> who do you mean, poet? [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I would love that [16:12] <DumbleDebbie> hee hee Poet [16:12] * JaneMarple9 wonders who that could be [16:12] <fawkes28> certainly not severussnape [16:13] <DumbleDebbie> ewww [16:13] <Poet> You never know wink [16:13] <NiGHTS> greasy-haired guy ... hmmm o. o 0 (who could they mean ???) [16:13] <Aislinn> and I think that Peter can shed light on what happened [16:13] <fawkes28> but will peter give him answers, aislinn? [16:13] <pinklaura> lol [16:13] <DumbleDebbie> he was wanderign around town asking where the laudrymat was [16:13] <dumbleydore18> If their house was under the fidelius, would muggles have seen the explosion? tongueonder: [16:13] <JaneMarple9> Peter has a debt to pay [16:13] <Aislinn> Peter's a coward, so Harry may be able to "induce" him to reveal information [16:13] <Poet> Maybe the Potters had a gardener... <---That would be too much like the Riddles though smile [16:13] <nympheart> I think if Harry threatens him Peter will definitely give answers [16:13] <MirandaV> well he also owes him [16:13] <pinklaura> veritaserum? [16:13] <JaneMarple9> Not You never Know Poet - You Don't Know Who! [16:14] <NiGHTS> I wonder how many people had been given the location of the house by Peter [16:14] <DumbleDebbie> but would they be honest answers nymph? [16:14] <Poet> Sorry - got a bit carried away there [16:14] <nympheart> I don't think Peter has the guts to lie [16:14] <DumbleDebbie> lol Poet [16:14] <MirandaV> hehe [16:14] <JaneMarple9> can't see them having a house big enough for a garden smile [16:14] <fawkes28> Is there an active horcrux hidden in Godric's Hollow? What about the object Voldemort had intended to make into a horcrux from Harry's death? [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think so [16:15] <nympheart> I don't think so [16:15] <JaneMarple9> yes there's got to be [16:15] <Aislinn> I think there is an object there that he was planning on using [16:15] <NiGHTS> it would seem a strange location for one given that it was site of LV's downfall [16:15] <Poet> I think the object is either still there or Petunia has it [16:15] <Aislinn> but was unable to, as he was blasted out of his body [16:15] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think there is because I think that maybe the object he was planning on using may be in some stuff that Petunia has [16:15] <Aislinn> or there was an object there [16:15] <fawkes28> Voldemort probably intended for there to be one but i don't think there is [16:15] <NiGHTS> unless there is an accidently created one there [16:15] <Love4Fawkes> i agree aislinn [16:15] <Pleshette> I don't think it's active,but yeah like Ais said, lol [16:15] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [16:15] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> no accidental horcruxes. blech [16:15] <Pleshette> Hey Expie!! [16:15] <Aislinn> hey expie, ltbrave [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> hi Expie [16:16] <Poet> Voldemort wasn't able to get a Godric object, so Voldie may have wanted to hide that object in Godric's Hollow [16:16] <MirandaV> I don't thinks so, maybe the object he was planning on using and it will help point Harry in the right direction [16:16] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Expie [16:16] <Love4Fawkes> hi expie, ltbrave [16:16] <JaneMarple9> very undecided about the Hollows hiding something now [16:16] <nympheart> hi expie [16:16] <ltbrave23> hey everyone [16:16] <nympheart> wb ltbrave [16:16] <JaneMarple9> ((((Expie)))) [16:16] <dumbleydore18> I don't think there is a horcrux in the middle of a village. Too many people to disturb it I would think. GH to me seems to be a place where Harry finds answers and clues and nothing else. [16:16] <fawkes28> Think about it: Voldemort went to GH to get rid of Harry's family - the first thing he did was go to the house - he wasnt going to go hide a horcrux first laugh [16:16] <Expelliarmas> heya peeps [16:16] <Poet> I think whatever object he'd brought is no longer there [16:16] <JaneMarple9> hi ltbrave [16:16] <pinklaura> i don't think voldie would have taken the horcrux object with him. it seems like you can create a horcrux after the fact [16:16] <nympheart> very true fawkes [16:16] <pinklaura> like he did with the gaunt ring [16:16] <JaneMarple9> yes Fawkes, he'd be very happy [16:16] <MirandaV> He couldn't take it with him, he didn't have a body [16:17] <Pleshette> But where would the soul be kept in the mean time? [16:17] <Aislinn> I don't think he was hiding one, I think he was getting ready to make one [16:17] <Poet> I think he brought the object with him because he'd planned to hide it in that village - due to the Godric connection [16:17] <MirandaV> true fawkes [16:17] <MirandaV> I agree Aislinn [16:17] <JaneMarple9> no need to create a horcrux [16:17] <Pleshette> He would need to have the object with him [16:17] <Poet> But I don't think he ever got to make a horcrux to hid there [16:17] <ltbrave23> i agree aislinn [16:17] <fawkes28> right aislinn, but he never got to make one because he underestimated harry and lily [16:17] <JaneMarple9> probably went for a few butterbeers with death eaters to celebrate [16:17] <Poet> *hide [16:17] <Aislinn> right Poet - he never got the chance [16:17] <JaneMarple9> ninja_hide [16:17] <Pleshette> that's what I think [16:17] <MirandaV> No he didn't poet he was too arogant to have a contingency plan [16:18] <MirandaV> you're right there [16:18] <Love4Fawkes> i agree miranda, LV thought he was way above contingency plans [16:18] <ltbrave23> i don't think the words contingency plan ever crossed his mind [16:18] <MirandaV> does he even know those words??? smile [16:18] <fawkes28> Will Harry find anything else Voldemort ended up leaving behind in Godric's Hollow? [16:19] <MirandaV> Your guess is as good as mine [16:19] <nympheart> nothing physical [16:19] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think so [16:19] <pinklaura> i think he'll find something of the "other person" who was there [16:19] <Poet> I think that would be cool, but I think Petunia has everything that got left behind [16:19] <Aislinn> I'm not sure he'll find anything else of Voldy's, but he may find something of his parents' [16:19] <ltbrave23> if he did leave something wouldn't peter have picked it up [16:19] <nympheart> I think so ltbrave [16:19] *** crazytibby has joined #lounge [16:19] <JaneMarple9> perhaps [16:20] <Pleshette> Peter was in a hurry to get out of there [16:20] <MirandaV> hi crazy [16:20] <nympheart> hi crazy [16:20] <Poet> There may have been a lot of rubble and Wormtail may have only had time to grab the wand and run [16:20] <JaneMarple9> hi crazy [16:20] <crazytibby> Godrics Hollow? [16:20] <DumbleDebbie> I gotta run, take care [16:20] <Pleshette> Hi crazytibby [16:20] <Love4Fawkes> hi crazy [16:20] <crazytibby> HI all [16:20] <Pleshette> Bye Debbie! [16:20] <nympheart> bye debbie [16:20] <JaneMarple9> bye debbie [16:21] <MirandaV> do we know for a fact that PP was there? [16:21] <Love4Fawkes> by debbie [16:21] <crazytibby> bye debbie [16:21] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [16:21] <ltbrave23> not if he thought the location was still a secret, then he could have taken his time [16:21] <MirandaV> bye debbie [16:21] <Love4Fawkes> no, miranda, we don't [16:21] <pinklaura> no, we don't, miranda [16:21] <Pleshette> No we don't Miranda but he did have Voldie's wand [16:21] <crazytibby> I think that the name Godrics hollow has something to do with gryffindor [16:21] <Love4Fawkes> do we know for a fact he had LV's wand? [16:21] <Poet> Just the possible horcrux object - that's the only thing he might have left behind - or a cloak or something [16:21] <JaneMarple9> well peter must had been around [16:21] <pinklaura> jo said something about it [16:21] <JaneMarple9> because he got blasted [16:21] <pinklaura> i think [16:21] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [16:21] <ltbrave23> yeah i'm pretty sure she did [16:21] <crazytibby> Ced! [16:21] <Poet> Or maybe Voldie's shoes wink [16:21] <nympheart> hi ced [16:21] <CedrellaBlack> hey everyone [16:21] <JaneMarple9> Hi Ced [16:21] <crazytibby> lol [16:21] <Pleshette> Well, he had it the night of LV's rebirth [16:21] <MirandaV> I didn't think so, so he was like a cleaner, you know the guy the mob sends in to clean up a crime scene smile [16:21] <MirandaV> hi ced [16:21] <CedrellaBlack> whats the quesion? [16:21] <Joyhawk2121> how else could he have got his wand back? [16:21] <Pleshette> Hi Ced [16:22] <fawkes28> Will Harry find any of his parents things in Godric's Hollow? [16:22] <crazytibby> Probably [16:22] <nympheart> probably [16:22] <CedrellaBlack> I don;t think so because the house was destroyed [16:22] <CedrellaBlack> He may find graves but thats it [16:22] <crazytibby> i think that there will be something there [16:22] <Love4Fawkes> yes, his parents things had to be stored someplace, and since that is were they are buried it might make sense some of their things were there [16:22] <fawkes28> there may be an item or two there [16:22] <crazytibby> it never mentions where the potters were buried [16:22] <dumbleydore18> I have to go do homework now. It was a nice chat. Buy guys! [16:22] <nympheart> It always sort of bothererd me that Harry has stuff that was James's but nothing of Lily's (except her eyes) [16:22] <Expelliarmas> I don't think so [16:22] <Poet> I really think it would be neat if he found something that was theirs - even if its just a mailbox or a part of that house that wasn't destroyed [16:22] <SoonerGryffindor> Again, I think that all of that stuff was gathered up and given to Petunia [16:22] <nympheart> bye dumbley [16:22] <MirandaV> there's always something left even after destruction [16:22] <Pleshette> Bye dumbley! [16:22] <crazytibby> Bye! [16:23] <CedrellaBlack> bye dumbley [16:23] <MirandaV> bye dumbley [16:23] <JaneMarple9> i am thinkinh it will be ostly rubble [16:23] <fawkes28> i think could help him but i think that it possibly may just be for harry - like sentimental value [16:23] <Expelliarmas> i think petunia inherited her sister's things [16:23] <Love4Fawkes> bye dumbley [16:23] <JaneMarple9> bye dd 18 [16:23] <Aislinn> I think that he will find something there that belonged to them [16:23] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [16:23] <Pleshette> Yes something sentimental fawkes [16:23] <crazytibby> I think there will be something small and meaning ful there [16:23] <CedrellaBlack> hmm thats interesting Sooner, but where would she have kept it all this time? [16:23] <MirandaV> that's a good theory sooner, I'd like to see that [16:23] <Aislinn> Hagrid didn't seem to bring anything besides Harry to leave on the Dursley's doorstep, so I don't thing Petunia has their stuff [16:23] <crazytibby> Petunia, Pentunia....... [16:23] <nympheart> the only things Petunia got immediatly following Lily's death was a letter and Harry [16:24] <Love4Fawkes> they might not have had all their stuff there. Afterall, they had to have lived somewhere else before GH [16:24] <pinklaura> I also really like that theory, sooner [16:24] <Pleshette> I never thought about that Sooner, could be [16:24] <fawkes28> maybe he will find something that will help harry get into the love room (if you think lily is an unspeakable) [16:24] <JaneMarple9> I think Petunia has at least one thing [16:24] <Pleshette> And I'll bet it's hidden from Vernon if she does [16:24] <crazytibby> its possible [16:24] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe through this stuff, Harry will learn what James and Lily did for a living [16:24] <pinklaura> plus, if he gets all those things from petunia before he goes to GH, it'd make more sense for him to be able to figure things out, i think [16:24] <Poet> I think Dumbledore may have made sure the site got cleaned up and anything important left - put in a vault or given to Petunia [16:24] <crazytibby> I like that idea fawkes [16:24] <MirandaV> I hope so sooner [16:24] <JaneMarple9> oh definatly hidden from Vernon [16:25] <Pleshette> It would be protected if with Petunia [16:25] <ltbrave23> probably under the creaky step [16:25] <CedrellaBlack> Wouldnt it be easier to ask Professor McGonagall what his parents did for a living? [16:25] <JaneMarple9> I can see Petunia hiding a lot of things [16:25] <JaneMarple9> rather like Kreacher [16:25] <crazytibby> maybe the cuboard under the stairs [16:25] <Love4Fawkes> in the beginning, petunia seemed to dislike her sister more than vernon [16:25] <MirandaV> I think Petunia is also in possession of the eye secret [16:25] <fawkes28> i still would like to believe that there is something there that harry will find [16:25] <Love4Fawkes> me too fawkes [16:25] <crazytibby> i think there will be many clues [16:25] <fawkes28> harry is not just going to go to GH for no reason at all [16:25] <MirandaV> I ike the creaky step theory [16:25] <JaneMarple9> I like that idea ltbrave but no not under the stairs [16:26] <fawkes28> there must be some object he will find that will help him on his quest - although i do not think it is a horcrux at all [16:26] *** MafaldaWeasley has joined #lounge [16:26] <ltbrave23> the step just seems out of place for the dursley home [16:26] <nympheart> hi mafalda [16:26] <Aislinn> hi MafaldaWeasley [16:26] <MirandaV> hi Mafalda [16:26] <Love4Fawkes> i agree fawkes [16:26] <Pleshette> hi mafalda [16:26] <ltbrave23> i also don't think it will be a horcrux fawkes [16:26] <MafaldaWeasley> hi everyone!! [16:26] <Love4Fawkes> i've got to duck out for a bit. i hope to be back! [16:26] <nympheart> bye love [16:27] <Pleshette> Bye L4F [16:27] <crazytibby> I wonder what the horcrux wil be [16:27] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [16:27] <JaneMarple9> hi malfada [16:27] <crazytibby> Bye! [16:27] <MirandaV> yes, ltbrave, but I don't think very much could fit there [16:27] <fawkes28> Do you think Voldemort or any of the Death Eaters will go back to Godric's Hollow? Why or why not? [16:27] <JaneMarple9> and bye l4f [16:27] <MirandaV> bye l4f [16:27] <CedrellaBlack> Well i think he will find something, but that something doesnt necesarilly have to be an oobject. It could be information [16:27] <ltbrave23> very true [16:27] <nympheart> I don't think so [16:27] <NYBookworm> yes, I think it's likely to be one of the battle areas [16:27] <Expelliarmas> yes, they could go back if they think theymight catch harry there [16:27] <Pleshette> I think they might [16:27] <nympheart> I'd imagine LV isn't fond of his memories of that place [16:27] <JaneMarple9> Yes voldie will return to godrics hollow [16:27] <Aislinn> I think they would only do so if they were following Harry for some reason [16:27] <JaneMarple9> for the final show down [16:27] <CedrellaBlack> Yeah I think they will, becuase it will be made more clear to voldy what really happenedc [16:27] <crazytibby> I think he wil probably find something of value to him [16:27] <MirandaV> no, I think they consider it finished business [16:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I am doubting that any DE's besides Peter even knows about GH [16:28] <fawkes28> i think that Voldemort actually may be curious about the place that he "died" [16:28] <MirandaV> agree sooner [16:28] <crazytibby> Thats a good point [16:28] <Aislinn> he's had a couple of years to check it out though - why would he wait until now [16:28] <MirandaV> & snape if he's a DE [16:28] <crazytibby> hes been working on other things [16:28] <Pleshette> I agree with you Expie, they may try to track down Harry if LV knows Harry knows about horcruxex [16:28] <fawkes28> well, he was trying to regain strength, aislinn [16:28] <MirandaV> I agree Aislinn [16:29] <Pleshette> *horcruxes [16:29] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [16:29] <JaneMarple9> no not many de will know where gh is [16:29] <MirandaV> he's been strong for 2 years now though [16:29] <crazytibby> What if it is someplace significant [16:29] <fawkes28> Why hasn't Harry been to visit Godric's Hollow before now? [16:29] <crazytibby> Harry was busy saving the worl;d [16:30] <MafaldaWeasley> I think because he was forced to go back to Dursleys all the time [16:30] <nympheart> He never had a way to get there [16:30] <JaneMarple9> he'd never had the opportunity [16:30] <MirandaV> no time...he's been busy cheating death and all [16:30] <pinklaura> because he has a serious lack of curiousity [16:30] <crazytibby> lol [16:30] <JaneMarple9> yep crazy, nice summing up [16:30] <CedrellaBlack> That always puzzled me becuase you would thing that hagrid would have offered to bring him theresometime during the summer, or the weasleys would have brought him [16:30] <Expelliarmas> aside from the fact Jo didn't want him to visit GH; I could never imagine why he hasnt been to visit there or his parents' graves [16:30] <Joyhawk2121> IIt was nit safe to [16:30] <Aislinn> I think primarily because he was a minor, and had no means of going there [16:30] <fawkes28> i think Jo just set it up that way because we first learn about it in the first book and i believe that the books mirror each other so it completes the series if he visits it in the final book [16:30] <Pleshette> Yeah, I'm not sure either [16:30] <JaneMarple9> he wasn't of age...rather a important thing [16:30] <Poet> He's sort of bound to the Dursleys during the summer and has to do what they say, so I don't think he could just take off. The summer after Book 4 he certainly couldn't go anywhere - and after Book 5 it wasn't safe either [16:31] <nympheart> the Dursleys would never let him and I think it's the sort of thing Harry would sort of rather do alone [16:31] <Aislinn> right jane - it wasn't something that he had the option of choosing to do - the Dursleys would not take him [16:31] <crazytibby> yeah [16:31] <Pleshette> He was always to stay at the Durselys for protection during the summer [16:31] <MirandaV> true Jane...who would take him, they were all rather busy [16:31] <Expelliarmas> well, having seen the public transportation in the UK, being a minor shouldn't have made a difference [16:31] <JaneMarple9> harry likes to do things alone [16:31] <crazytibby> what about when he left in book 3? [16:31] <JaneMarple9> or with the trio [16:31] <Aislinn> he has no muggle money though expie [16:31] <JaneMarple9> well he wanted to be wither his friends then [16:31] <JaneMarple9> back in the wizard world [16:31] <Expelliarmas> he could have exchanged wizard money at gringotts [16:31] <Poet> Harry starts to hear his parents' voices in Book 3, so he may not have been curious yet [16:31] <Pleshette> It was furthest from his mind then crazy [16:32] <JaneMarple9> he'd just blow up his aunt [16:32] <crazytibby> good point [16:32] <MirandaV> he was too angry and scared to think of it then crazy [16:32] <fawkes28> Voldemort visited Little Hangleton when he was about 16 1/2. Harry will be about 16 going on 17 when he goes to Godric's Hollow. Can you point out some of the ways that Harry's "going home" situation is both similar and different from Voldemort's in this case? [16:32] *** huebbe has joined #lounge [16:32] <crazytibby> Hi hubbe [16:33] <Pleshette> Great chat! I have to run [16:33] <huebbe> hey all! [16:33] <Pleshette> Bye all! [16:33] <crazytibby> Bye! [16:33] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Pleshette [16:33] <Poet> There's a graveyard where his parents are buried..... [16:33] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:33] <CedrellaBlack> byebye pleshette [16:33] <JaneMarple9> bye phelestte [16:33] <Expelliarmas> well, he's not out to kill anyone [16:33] <nympheart> Harry wants to see where he came from, so did Tom [16:33] <Poet> There is a house, or where a house used to be..... [16:33] <MafaldaWeasley> bye plee [16:33] <MirandaV> maybe it's not close to London Expie, he couldn't just disappear for a couple days without questions [16:33] <crazytibby> lol [16:33] <fawkes28> Harry isnt there for revenge [16:33] <Expelliarmas> well, except for LV, but then there's a deli line to do that [16:33] <Poet> He doesn't know much about his parents..... [16:33] <SoonerGryffindor> Similar in that he is searching for answers. Different because he is not psychotic [16:33] <crazytibby> lol good summary sooner [16:33] <CedrellaBlack> lol sooner [16:34] <JaneMarple9> a deli line?? [16:34] <CedrellaBlack> Also i dont think he plans on killing anyone [16:34] <nympheart> Tom didn't originally plan on killing anyone, he decided that when he spoke to Morfin [16:34] <Poet> I am fairly certain Harry won't find any old relatives hanging out in Godric's Hollow - since Jo killed them off [16:34] <fawkes28> he wants to use the information to grow and do what he has to do to make the world a better place [16:34] <Expelliarmas> yes, Jane, in the US we take a number at the deli line for service ... [16:34] <fawkes28> Harry loved his parents and Voldemort did not - very simple difference [16:34] <MirandaV> laugh sooner [16:34] <JaneMarple9> ah right, queing up [16:34] <crazytibby> It all leads back to love doesnt it? [16:35] <fawkes28> love is all you need [16:35] <JaneMarple9> Love is the most important thing in the books [16:35] <MirandaV> I didn't even know that expie, but I live far from any underground service... smile [16:35] <Poet> Both had / will have strong actions after having been in the place where their families lived. [16:36] <crazytibby> yeah [16:36] <MirandaV> beatlemainia fawkes smile [16:36] <nympheart> I think Harry has a better idea of what to expect than Tom did [16:36] <fawkes28> that is true, poet, but their emotions were quite different [16:36] <crazytibby> and harry im guessing will find something o value to him [16:36] <fawkes28> harry isnt going to go on a rampage and kill people either [16:36] <huebbe> do we think something of the house is still left? [16:36] <Poet> Voldemort wanted revenge - and the revenge was on his father - Harry will have a greater determination to end Voldie's life... [16:36] <Aislinn> right fawkes [16:36] <fawkes28> Even though the meanings of (Godric's) Hollow and Hallows are nothing alike, do you think Jo meant anything by having these two important words be similar? [16:37] <MirandaV> yes LV had extreme hatred/ Harry extreme love [16:37] <fawkes28> she likes to play mind games on us laugh [16:37] <crazytibby> lol [16:37] <huebbe> yes hallowed ground and hollow soul [16:37] <nympheart> I don't think so [16:37] <crazytibby> yes. [16:37] <Aislinn> I don't think so. [16:37] <ltbrave23> i think in doing so she has drawn everyone's attention on Godric's Hollow even if it wasn't her intention [16:37] <fawkes28> I think it mat just be a coincidence that they are similar [16:37] <huebbe> exact opposites as Harry and LV are [16:37] <crazytibby> Yes,aprt from the fact she likes to mess with our heads. [16:37] <MirandaV> I don't think so [16:37] <Expelliarmas> it's Jo, so yest [16:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I hate it when people get these 2 things confused [16:37] <Poet> The Hollow was where Voldie's first life ended - but because of the Hallows he didn't die. [16:37] <Aislinn> The similarity to me, does not have to do with the name of the town, but the date the Potters were killed [16:37] <MirandaV> me too sooner [16:38] <CedrellaBlack> This is jo we're talking about so most likely they have something in common but not directly linked [16:38] <JaneMarple9> she just wanted us to make unintentional spelling mistakes all the time biggrin [16:38] <crazytibby> oh very deep poet [16:38] <crazytibby> lol jane [16:38] <CedrellaBlack> lol jane! [16:38] <fawkes28> we all know that GH is going to be important because harry said he was going to go there - but other than that it has nothing to do with the title [16:38] <huebbe> could be the US vs. UK thing jane! [16:38] <JaneMarple9> they have to be connected [16:38] <crazytibby> The probably have hidde meaning' [16:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree fawkes [16:38] <Aislinn> I agree fawkes [16:38] <MirandaV> she does like us to slowly drive ourselves insane smile [16:39] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:39] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:39] <crazytibby> lol [16:39] <MirandaV> I agree fawkes [16:39] <fawkes28> wb, sooner [16:39] <Poet> Yes both are very important to the series - GH is where it all began [16:39] <huebbe> and perhaps end [16:39] <Expelliarmas> now, huebbe, we see the difference between the two words ... [16:39] <JaneMarple9> of course!! Huebbe got it! It's Deathly Hollows for us Brits and Deathly Hallows for everyone else [16:39] <crazytibby> you beat me to it hubbe [16:39] <huebbe> lol! [16:40] <Expelliarmas> I don't think there are two different titles for this book [16:40] <JaneMarple9> smile don't worry expie [16:40] <fawkes28> While Harry is in Godric's Hollow will he find out why his father gave Dumbledore the invisibility cloak? [16:40] <JaneMarple9> nor do I! biggrin [16:40] <huebbe> yes [16:40] <Aislinn> right, expie - there is no indication that there are 2 different titles [16:40] <ltbrave23> yes [16:40] <crazytibby> yes [16:40] <huebbe> someone was using it [16:40] <MafaldaWeasley> II bet he'll [16:40] <nympheart> I think so [16:40] <Poet> definitely not two title [16:40] <fawkes28> oh yes, definitely [16:41] <Aislinn> Jo only allowed it for the first book because it was the first - it is not going to happen now [16:41] <MirandaV> maybe [16:41] <crazytibby> what will dumbledore have to do wit this all [16:41] <SoonerGryffindor> wow, that is a good question [16:41] <JaneMarple9> yes we'll find out [16:41] <Joyhawk2121> I don't think so [16:41] <fawkes28> he may not find out there specifically but he will need to find this out [16:41] <Aislinn> He may find out there [16:41] <Expelliarmas> someone borrowed the Cloak [16:41] <JaneMarple9> he knew dd would take care of it [16:41] <Poet> I think he will find out, but I don't know when [16:41] <MirandaV> I agree fawkes [16:41] <crazytibby> I have a thing with dumbledore's portriat. [16:41] <Poet> I think perhaps he'll find out soon after going to Godric's Hollow [16:42] <huebbe> in the rumors section on JK's site, she has said no to Snape being under the cloak....but nothing else [16:42] <JaneMarple9> perhaps sturgis Podmore's Dad? smile [16:42] <fawkes28> Will visiting Godric's Hollow make Harry want to learn more about his parents in general? Will Harry talk to Petunia about his parents before or after going to Godric's Hollow? [16:42] <crazytibby> So no no about peter [16:42] <crazytibby> before [16:42] <huebbe> Petunia is an undiscoverd key to a lot [16:42] <ltbrave23> i think harry will talk to petunia [16:42] <nympheart> before [16:42] <Poet> I think he'll talk to Petunia before, as well. [16:42] <huebbe> of info [16:42] <crazytibby> because that wil be the cilmax of the book [16:42] <fawkes28> i think he will talk to petunia before because i dont think he plans on going back at all [16:42] <MafaldaWeasley> I think so. i think this will bring up a lot of knew emotions to harry and he'll need to talk to somebody about it [16:42] <MirandaV> I think before, he will be with them first [16:42] <nympheart> agreed fawkes [16:43] <Expelliarmas> i think he'll talk to her before leaving for GH [16:43] <JaneMarple9> yes I think he'll have the most intelligent conversation with Petunia that he has ever had [16:43] <Aislinn> I think he is going to see Petunia first, so he will talk to her about it before ever visiting Godrics Hollow [16:43] <fawkes28> again Jo would not send Harry there for no purpose - he will learn more about his parents there in some way, shape, or form [16:43] <NYBookworm> before becaue the dursley will likelyonly be in the very beginning [16:43] <crazytibby> Godrics hollow will be the climax of the book, after harry kills al the other horcruxes [16:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Harry will have a talk with Petunia before goind [16:43] <MirandaV> yes, he won't go back to the Dursley's once he leaves. So definitly before [16:43] <huebbe> Petunia knows a great deal....like about Azkaban. How did she know that when she couldn't stand her sister enough to talk to her, but evesdropping is not beneth her. She is a consumate gossip [16:43] <CedrellaBlack> deff sooner [16:43] <JaneMarple9> A thousand lightbulbs will start going off in our heads wgen we read about Petunoa [16:43] <CedrellaBlack> she knows way more than she lets on [16:43] <Poet> So if he talks to her before, then he may not have as many questions to have answered while there [16:44] <MirandaV> yes huebbe [16:44] <crazytibby> lol this place will be silent ehen the book comes out [16:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that once Harry leaves the Dursleys he is gone forever from Privet Drive [16:44] <Poet> In other words, he may know a lot about his parents by the time he arrives in GH [16:44] <huebbe> oh yes sooner [16:44] <MirandaV> I agree sooner [16:44] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [16:44] <JaneMarple9> she does knowa awful lot about the wizarding world [16:44] <JaneMarple9> for a common Muggle [16:44] <nympheart> hi sdcurtis [16:45] <MirandaV> hi sdc [16:45] <sdcurtis> hello [16:45] <crazytibby> could she be a secret keeoer? [16:45] <JaneMarple9> Hi Sdcurtis [16:45] <CedrellaBlack> Hopefully sooner. If I have to read about Vernon abusing harry one more time i will literaly throw my book out the window [16:45] <JaneMarple9> no don't think so [16:45] <huebbe> I've always laughed that she absolutley hated LIly....but knows so much about her. Can you say jelous? [16:45] <Aislinn> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next P3 chat, here:http: [16:45] <crazytibby> lol [16:45] <Aislinn> http://www.leakylounge.com/forums.html#entry1078486 [16:45] <MirandaV> she's nosy, and I think she was trying to gather info to discredit Lily in their parents eyes [16:45] <fawkes28> While in Godric's Hollow, will Harry find any horcrux leads? [16:45] <nympheart> absolutely huebbe [16:45] <huebbe> yes [16:45] *** NiGHTS has quit [Bye] [16:45] <nympheart> yup [16:45] <sdcurtis> probably [16:45] <crazytibby> I think that the horcruxes will be gone by tehen [16:45] <Aislinn> yes [16:45] <CedrellaBlack> most likely [16:45] <nympheart> he won't find one there, but he'll get an idea where to look [16:45] <JaneMarple9> you have to be a bit magic to be a secret keeper [16:46] <fawkes28> No, I don't think he will. I think this part of Harry's journey will be separate from the Horcruxes [16:46] <JaneMarple9> probably yes [16:46] <huebbe> i can see him digging through the rubble and finding the thing he needs the most [16:46] <ltbrave23> i agree fawkes [16:46] <MirandaV> alead, yes, an actual horcrux, no [16:46] <crazytibby> me too with the trio [16:46] <JaneMarple9> perhaps Huebbe [16:46] <sdcurtis> the only catch is that it's been so long since the death of Lily and James...what will be left [16:46] <fawkes28> I think this part needs to be focused on his love for his parents rather than getting involved in horcruxes and such [16:46] <huebbe> true....but look at the Riddle house [16:46] <JaneMarple9> but the trio will be there not just Harry [16:47] <Poet> I think he'll find a horcrux lead at GH or while visiting the Dursleys. I think he'll get more clues after leaving GH - perhaps at Grimmauld Place [16:47] <MirandaV> that's a good point fawkes [16:47] <huebbe> and they will undoubtedly support him, emotionally and physically [16:47] <crazytibby> i think that the book wil end at godrics hollow [16:47] <MirandaV> I don't crazy [16:47] <JaneMarple9> yes crazy me too [16:48] <huebbe> perhaps in the graveyard of harry's parents [16:48] <crazytibby> because then it begains at the same place it ends [16:48] <huebbe> hallowed ground [16:48] <crazytibby> yeah [16:48] <MirandaV> so you don't think it will encompass a year or you think he will go back a second time? [16:48] <fawkes28> Jo gave very specific directions about the Godric's Hollow scene in movie 1. Will we get to see the rest of that scene sometime in Book 7? [16:48] <nympheart> yup [16:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I am sure that we will [16:48] <sdcurtis> I hope so [16:49] <ltbrave23> yes [16:49] <Poet> Yes - I think that's where Jo got that scene from [16:49] <Expelliarmas> We have to know what happened there, so it's time to show that [16:49] <CedrellaBlack> we better [16:49] <crazytibby> i hope!! [16:49] <JaneMarple9> i hope so [16:49] <MirandaV> yes [16:49] <huebbe> absolutley [16:49] <Joyhawk2121> yes [16:49] <crazytibby> hunt then down until we see it [16:49] <huebbe> just like when she gave specific directions to Alan Rickman in the first movie..... [16:49] <Aislinn> I think Harry will relive it in some manner, and we will finally learn the truth of that night [16:49] <fawkes28> Jo is not involved in everything with the movie and for her to give specific directions makes me realize what happened that night was highly important [16:49] <ltbrave23> i agree aislinn [16:49] <crazytibby> Ahh the truth [16:49] <MirandaV> yes aislinn [16:49] <JaneMarple9> did she huebbe? what were they? [16:50] <huebbe> she told Rickman something very private about his chracter and how he was to behave [16:50] <crazytibby> great chat all [16:50] <huebbe> something that no one else knows....hmmmm [16:50] <MirandaV> Ooooooooooooooooh...interesting [16:50] <MirandaV> :) [16:51] <JaneMarple9> so Rickman might hold the secret that we don't severussnape [16:51] <crazytibby> GRRRRR [16:51] * SoonerGryffindor thinks she needs to kidnap A Rickman (tee hee) [16:51] <huebbe> at first people believed that he was a vampire....but now it could be the double agent thing [16:51] <sdcurtis> from what I"ve read she told him where his loyalties lie [16:51] <MirandaV> laugh sooner [16:51] <JaneMarple9> I'd be no good with a secret like that! [16:51] <sdcurtis> Veritiseru m would work rather well [16:51] <huebbe> lol sdcurtis [16:51] <MirandaV> where can we get some? [16:52] <NYBookworm> yes that's one of the things I really look for in the movie- his acting clues should be very pertininet in occulemency scenes (but if we have the book by then won't matter) [16:52] <JaneMarple9> can just imagine Jo trustine me with a Harry Potter secret.... [16:52] <CedrellaBlack> w00t2 LOL sooner [16:52] <huebbe> especially in movie 3 when he clearly protects the trio....it wasn't that way in the book [16:52] <JaneMarple9> ...I'd be in here at the first opportunity! Just bribe me with chocolate!! [16:52] <sdcurtis> does anyone know any potion masters who would brew it [16:52] <fawkes28> Voldemort's parents' graves were the final battle ground in Book 4. Will Godric's Hollow be the site of any battles? [16:52] <huebbe> the final battle? [16:52] <nympheart> I don't think so [16:53] *** pinklaura left #lounge [] [16:53] <ltbrave23> I don't think so. [16:53] <JaneMarple9> yes the final battle [16:53] <sdcurtis> No [16:53] <Poet> It should be the site of one of the final battles - in my opinion [16:53] <NYBookworm> I think so , it'd be interesting if it ended where it began [16:53] <CedrellaBlack> I think the final battle will be at godrics hollow [16:53] <fawkes28> the only reason i think it may be is because Jo may want to end it where it all began [16:53] <huebbe> Jo loves to come full circle [16:53] <nympheart> I've always seen the final battle in the CoS [16:53] <CedrellaBlack> So that it can end where it began [16:53] <fawkes28> exactly, huebbe [16:53] <MafaldaWeasley> I don't think. it was already a place of battel before [16:53] <Aislinn> it may be, but I don't think it will be the final battle site [16:53] <JaneMarple9> the one where Harry succeeds smile Defeats a evil wizard [16:53] <sdcurtis> Harry could go back there to live once this whole mess is over [16:53] <huebbe> but she is very good at writting backwards. Which is how she planned the series [16:53] <MirandaV> I didn't think so before, but maybe to come full circle the final battle should be at Harry's parents graves [16:54] <fawkes28> there may very well be a battle there before the final battle [16:54] <JaneMarple9> Not "A" evil wizard....the most evilest [16:54] *** Love4Fawkes has joined #lounge [16:54] <nympheart> wb love [16:54] <JaneMarple9> I can see that Sdcurtis. Ginny and Harry would be happy there aI am sure [16:55] <crazytibby> OMG I have to go my bff just broker her arm skiing [16:55] <Love4Fawkes> thanks, i know we only have a few more minutes, but i still had to come back smile [16:55] <CedrellaBlack> wb love [16:55] <MirandaV> That would be a good ending sdcurtis [16:55] <crazytibby> lol i live on a mountainn [16:55] <huebbe> it seems her style to have LV become his strongest on the grave of his father. so it will be with harry and his strongest moment on the father of his grave....attonment with the father y'all [16:55] *** crazytibby has quit [Bye] [16:55] <CedrellaBlack> alrighty i have to go [16:55] <CedrellaBlack> bye everyonee [16:55] <nympheart> bye ced [16:55] <fawkes28> Do you have any theories about Godric's Hollow that we haven't discussed yet? [16:55] <CedrellaBlack> It was great to talk [16:55] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [16:55] <MirandaV> bye ced [16:55] <JaneMarple9> bye ced [16:55] <MirandaV> not really [16:56] <sdcurtis> nope [16:56] <fawkes28> i myself like the time turner theory wink [16:56] *** MafaldaWeasley has quit [Bye] [16:56] <JaneMarple9> i think we're covered all of the Hollows! [16:56] <ltbrave23> i like the going back in time theory myself [16:56] <MirandaV> that is a good one fawkes [16:56] <huebbe> ooooo I missed so much [16:56] <MirandaV> I posted a theory about that [16:56] <JaneMarple9> The Hollow is now hollow from discussion! biggrin [16:56] <nympheart> I just don't like time travel in the books [16:56] <huebbe> lol [16:56] <MirandaV> laugh [16:56] <Poet> If there are any time turners left - I would love for Harry to use it to see GH on Oct 31, 1981 [16:57] <huebbe> yes [16:57] <sdcurtis> I thnk after a while time travel gets to conveluted [16:57] <JaneMarple9> yes it is a good idea the time turner....but been used before [16:57] <fawkes28> i never did either, nymph, but i like that theory from PC [16:57] <Love4Fawkes> i like time travel, but i don't think it will happen again. [16:57] <nympheart> It looks like you have to go back hour by hour, that would take a very long time [16:57] <JaneMarple9> oh no poet not the night his parents were deaded sad [16:57] <ltbrave23> i think he might time travel another way [16:57] <MirandaV> me too, the one from PC was good [16:57] <huebbe> repetition of structure is Jo...but not repetiiton of seneios [16:57] <nympheart> which episode was that on? [16:57] <huebbe> opps spellin [16:57] <huebbe> g [16:58] <Love4Fawkes> well put huebbe [16:58] <MirandaV> I knew whatcha meant huebbe [16:58] <huebbe> thanks. even with my errors [16:58] <MirandaV> that is true too [16:58] <Poet> Cheers everyone [16:58] <fawkes28> Thanks for coming everyone! smile [16:58] <fawkes28> It was a great chat! [16:58] <JaneMarple9> great chat!! [16:58] <MirandaV> bye all [16:58] *** sdcurtis has quit [Bye] [16:58] <huebbe> thanks for inviting us...what will we do when it [16:58] <nympheart> as always! [16:58] <Love4Fawkes> it was a great chat. i'm so sad i missed the middle sad [16:58] <fawkes28> hug [16:58] <ltbrave23> bye everyone [16:58] <huebbe> 's all over [16:59] *** ltbrave23 left #lounge [] [16:59] <MirandaV> it was fun [16:59] <Joyhawk2121> bye everyone [16:59] <Aislinn> see you all soon! [16:59] <nympheart> bye [16:59] * Poet hugs the group [16:59] <MirandaV> hug [16:59] <SoonerGryffindor> bye everyone [16:59] <Love4Fawkes> bye [16:59] <huebbe> bye [16:59] * JaneMarple9 prepares to be hugged to death! [16:59] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks for making it such a good one guys [16:59] * nympheart hugs everyone [16:59] * Aislinn hugs the group [16:59] <SoonerGryffindor> GROUP HUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:59] <NYBookworm> bye [16:59] *** nympheart left #lounge [] [16:59] *** NYBookworm left #lounge [] [16:59] *** huebbe left #lounge [] [16:59] <Love4Fawkes> *hugs for all* [17:00] <Poet> adios [17:00] * JaneMarple9 hug all her friends hug [17:00] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [17:00] <MirandaV> astaluego [17:00] *** MirandaV left #lounge [] [17:00] <Expelliarmas> see y'all later [17:00] <fawkes28> so long, farewell smile [17:00] <JaneMarple9> then again...death by hugging. doesn;t sound bad [17:00] <JaneMarple9> :wave: [17:00] <Poet> bye! [17:00] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [17:01] <Expelliarmas> no more sound of music references!!! [17:01] *** Joyhawk2121 left #lounge [] [17:01] <fawkes28> hehehe |
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