P3 Corner Booth Transcript: Feb 18, 2007, Mega who wil live, who will die chat |
 Feb 18 2007, 05:35 PM
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[13:57] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [13:57] *** Topic is: The mega live or die chat [14:01] *** J_DIZZLE32 has joined #lounge [14:01] *** ProngsPatronus has joined #lounge [14:01] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> hey dizzle, hey Prongs [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> hey jane [14:01] <Aislinn> Hi folks smile [14:01] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, y'all! [14:01] <J_DIZZLE32> Whats up [14:01] <ProngsPatronus> woohoo! I'm in! w00t2 [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> yay [14:01] <JaneMarple9> Hello everyone good to see you all smile [14:01] <MrMcGonagall> Looking forward to the chat, Prongs? [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I think so Mr M [14:02] <ProngsPatronus> yes--I love the chats here [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> Awwww [14:02] <J_DIZZLE32> this my first one [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> well, we're glad you came! [14:02] <ProngsPatronus> welcome, welcome, jd! [14:02] <JaneMarple9> should be a cheerful chat - who will live, who will die smile [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> we will get started on the actual topic at 15 after [14:02] *** MirandaV has joined #lounge [14:02] *** dumbleydore18 has joined #lounge [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Miranda, dd18 [14:02] <ProngsPatronus> grin--and we dispose of the Potterverse thus [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [14:03] <MrMcGonagall> We need harryfreak here to be the fence-sitter on whether everyone will live or die. biggrin [14:03] <dumbleydore18> Aislinn I sent you a PM [14:03] <JaneMarple9> Hi Miranda hi dd18 [14:03] <MirandaV> Hi, it only took me one try to get in this week! [14:03] <dumbleydore18> please jane call me Dumbley [14:03] <Aislinn> yes, dumbley, I got it - reply coming [14:03] <dumbleydore18> it's my new 07' name lol [14:03] <SoonerGryffindor> I think some of the issues have been fixed Miranda [14:03] *** JMlovesHP has joined #lounge [14:03] <JaneMarple9> dumbley it is then smile [14:03] <ProngsPatronus> well, I think some have to die, some have to live, and the rest is up to god and JKR [14:03] <SoonerGryffindor> but its still a little wonky [14:03] <SoonerGryffindor> that's a good thought Prongs [14:03] <MirandaV> That's great...makes things a little easier... [14:04] *** Ravenclaws_Heir has joined #lounge [14:04] <MirandaV> aren't we all though Sooner...lol [14:04] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:04] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [14:04] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi everyone! [14:04] <dumbleydore18> I have been waiting for this chat for a llllllloooonnnnnnngggggggggg time! [14:04] <Aislinn> good afternoon smile [14:04] *** antonin has joined #lounge [14:04] <dumbleydore18> hi bye1 [14:04] <ProngsPatronus> I know how you feel, dumbley [14:04] <MirandaV> Hi Ravenclaw Greeneyes and JMlovesHP [14:04] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi! [14:04] <antonin> hey [14:04] <Greeneyes15> Hey guys!!! [14:04] <JMlovesHP> hey..what are we chatting about? [14:04] <MirandaV> hi antonin [14:04] <antonin> starting right at the beginning! [14:04] <antonin> live or die [14:04] <Ravenclaws_Heir> The great who lives and who dies chat [14:05] <Aislinn> which will start in a few minutes [14:05] <Greeneyes15> WOOOHOOO!!! [14:05] <JMlovesHP> cool [14:05] <dumbleydore18> I have some crazy theories guys so watch out [14:05] <antonin> yippee!!!! [14:05] <Greeneyes15> heehhee [14:05] *** Pellinore has joined #lounge [14:05] <antonin> haha [14:05] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Haha, that should make things interesting [14:05] <JaneMarple9> that sounds good! [14:05] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [14:05] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi pellinore [14:05] <antonin> hi pellinore [14:05] <MirandaV> hi pellinore and harryfreak [14:05] <antonin> hi harryfreak [14:05] <ProngsPatronus> did everyone have a good Valentine's Day? [14:05] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi hf [14:05] <harryfreak359> finally it let me in... [14:05] <SoonerGryffindor> yey! We have our official fence-sitter for this chat [14:05] <SoonerGryffindor> woot! [14:06] <antonin> yeah i did [14:06] <Pellinore> afternoon all smile [14:06] <harryfreak359> hi everyone! [14:06] <J_DIZZLE32> it was alright [14:06] <MirandaV> My husband and I had the flu for Valentine's Day [14:06] <antonin> haha yeah it took me two tries as well [14:06] <Greeneyes15> hey Harryfreak! [14:06] <dumbleydore18> ewww [14:06] <MirandaV> Ain't love grand [14:06] <dumbleydore18> no flu [14:06] <harryfreak359> hey biggrin [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> sory to hear that Miranda [14:06] <JaneMarple9> Hi Harryfreak, Pellinore and everyone smile [14:06] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I'm afraid I'm a bit of a fence sitter about who lives and who dies as well... [14:06] <Pellinore> The gift that keeps on giving :o [14:06] <Greeneyes15> aww...too bad miranda [14:06] <antonin> ahh that stinks [14:06] <harryfreak359> awww that's too bad...I had the flu too [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> hf, you better make some decisions this chatt laugh [14:06] <antonin> lol [14:06] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [14:06] <Aislinn> Hi hf [14:06] <MirandaV> My kids had it the day before...should have known [14:06] <Ravenclaws_Heir> awww, I'm sorry Miranda [14:06] <JaneMarple9> Not a nice valentine's present Miranda sad [14:06] <dumbleydore18> I am a fence sitter on Snape [14:06] <Greeneyes15> i had chocoalte covered starberries on v-day [14:06] <Evreka> hi everyone! [14:06] <Greeneyes15> yummy [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Evreka [14:07] <dumbleydore18> infact I will be sitting on my own fence for my thoughts on Snape [14:07] <MirandaV> No, next year I hope my daughters just get me a card Jane [14:07] <Aislinn> I think we know harryfreak359's responses to all of them already laugh [14:07] <harryfreak359> I think it won't be a problem Sooner, I've moved on past the half-live [14:07] <Evreka> Hi, Sooner! smile [14:07] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi! [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [14:07] <antonin> lol i had a bunch of lifesavers [14:07] <harryfreak359> hehehe [14:07] * JaneMarple9 wonders if I can join dumbley on the good/evil fence [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> wow, this place is filling up nicelu [14:07] <Aislinn> oh, good, can't wait to see your responses then, hf [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks everyone for taking time out of your days to chat with us [14:07] <Greeneyes15> no prob...i luv the Cb! [14:07] <J_DIZZLE32> yea i wanted to see what they're like [14:07] <dumbleydore18> yes Jane you can....there's room for two...we'll have to fight off the others though hiiiyah! [14:07] <JMlovesHP> i have nothing else to do [14:07] <Ravenclaws_Heir> today's chat should be fun! [14:07] <MirandaV> Are you kidding I look forward to this all week, it's the only thing I do for me [14:07] <harryfreak359> It'll be me mostly getting chased around with the 2X4 today [14:08] <antonin> yes it sure is [14:08] <SoonerGryffindor> that is great Miranda [14:08] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [14:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I have to admit that I live here [14:08] <Greeneyes15> laugh [14:08] <harryfreak359> lol [14:08] <ProngsPatronus> lol [14:08] <Evreka> Aislinn, did you see my PM [14:08] <JaneMarple9> these chats brighten up my weekend laugh [14:08] <Aislinn> I did, thanks evreka smile [14:08] <Evreka> :) [14:08] <ProngsPatronus> boy, this page is jumpy! [14:09] <JaneMarple9> Well someone has to look after Snuffles Sooner smile [14:09] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [14:09] <MirandaV> I wish I could do it more often, but I don't have time, one of my daughters goes to my mom's today so it's easier [14:09] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [14:09] <dumbleydore18> same here Jane. I am so mad at myself for being forced to miss the RG chats as they were the last ones [14:09] <Greeneyes15> hey ltbrave [14:09] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi! [14:09] <MirandaV> hi ltbrave [14:09] <JMlovesHP> hey ltbrave [14:09] <dumbleydore18> the last 3 chapters of GoF are my Fave [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> they are great dd18 [14:09] <ltbrave23> hey everyone! [14:09] <harryfreak359> same DD18 [14:10] <Greeneyes15> i know...i hate missing chat guys...but i get bury and stuff sad [14:10] <ProngsPatronus> my faves, too! [14:10] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I cry every time I read those chapter DD18, but I love them too [14:10] <MirandaV> Are they going to be doing an OotP RG soon? I want to get in one. [14:10] <Greeneyes15> me too DD18! [14:10] <JaneMarple9> the reading group chats are great yes - but I love the movie nights best w00t2 [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Miranda [14:10] <MrMcGonagall> March 3, Miranda [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:10] <MirandaV> Yippee! [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> Mr M is faster than me [14:10] <Greeneyes15> i've n ever been to a movie night...r they fun? [14:10] <dumbleydore18> so who are we going to takl about in the chat today? so we can get a heads up? [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Greeneyes [14:10] <Ravenclaws_Heir> oh yayI was so mad I missed GoF sorting [14:10] <harryfreak359> Woot [14:10] <MirandaV> I did a movie night...it was fun [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> they are loads of fun [14:11] <Aislinn> lots land lots of characters dumbley [14:11] <JaneMarple9> Yes Miranda - March 3rd 9am EST and 2pm English time smile [14:11] <ProngsPatronus> I am sitting out on the ootP groups [14:11] <dumbleydore18> are we going to do a GoF movie nitght? [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> dd18, we are going to talk about who we think is going to live or die [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> why Prong? [14:11] <MirandaV> What do you have to do to get sorted??? [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> there will be an announcement [14:11] <dumbleydore18> argh....they keep it a secret from us.....I don't like secrets! [14:11] <Greeneyes15> why Prongs? [14:11] <ProngsPatronus> well, I did the vault, and four Rgs in a row [14:11] <Evreka> deaths, deaths and more deaths... right? [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> anyone who wants to know, PM me and I can explain it [14:12] <JaneMarple9> just turn up on the day and click on the big link which will be there, about sorting [14:12] <MrMcGonagall> Well, hopefully some will live, Evreka. smile [14:12] <ProngsPatronus> OotP is my least favourite book [14:12] <J_DIZZLE32> Hey anyone think they could let me know when sorting might be goin to happen cause i wanna belong to a house smile [14:12] *** Shard has joined #lounge [14:12] <MirandaV> Okay...thanks Jane! [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh. It is my most favorite Prongs [14:12] <Greeneyes15> OotP is my FAV!! [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Shard [14:12] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Really Prongs? It's my favorite! [14:12] <JMlovesHP> hey shard [14:12] <Shard> Heya everyone [14:12] <Greeneyes15> hi shard! [14:12] <ProngsPatronus> I loathe Umbridge [14:12] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi! [14:12] <MirandaV> I love OotP [14:12] <Greeneyes15> me too Prongs, but i luv the book! [14:12] <JaneMarple9> Oh the reading groups are fantastic fun w00t2 [14:12] <Aislinn> there aren't houses here J DIZZLE [14:12] <harryfreak359> Yah, of course I loathe her, that's why I like it! lol [14:12] *** antonin has joined #lounge [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I do too, but I love reading about her [14:12] <Shard> This is the live or die chat correct? [14:12] <Greeneyes15> the are Jane! [14:12] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Yes, so I I prongs, but hating her is part of what makes reading OotP so fun! [14:12] <JaneMarple9> hey Shard [14:12] <MrMcGonagall> McGonagall has some of her best moments in OotP, so I'm looking forward to it. [14:12] <MirandaV> Yeah, but you have to admit she is wonderful to read about [14:12] <harryfreak359> same soooner [14:13] <Ravenclaws_Heir> yup shards [14:13] <Aislinn> but there will be sorting for reading group rooms on March 3rd, starting at 9 AM eastern time [14:13] <JaneMarple9> it is shard yes [14:13] <SoonerGryffindor> the sorting refers to getting sorted into a reading room [14:13] <Shard> I am looking fowarod to the movie as well [14:13] <dumbleydore18> I am so excited! I am bouncing on my exersize ball i'm so excited!!!! [14:13] <antonin> man, i had to get off, but then i gave my mum the puppy look and she let me back on [14:13] <Greeneyes15> i can't wait till we start OotP i'm soooo w00t2 [14:13] <antonin> hahahaha [14:13] <J_DIZZLE32> oo ok [14:13] <Shard> Oh the book *ehehe* That will be fun [14:13] <ProngsPatronus> lol--I am such a gryffindor! I want to get in the book and give her what for! [14:13] <Greeneyes15> :lol: [14:13] <MirandaV> w00t2 for lots of things [14:13] <SoonerGryffindor> that's funny Prongs [14:13] <harryfreak359> lol [14:13] <Shard> I know waht you mean Prongs [14:14] <Aislinn> yes, I'm really waiting for her Karmic retribution Prongs [14:14] <dumbleydore18> I don't want to read the end...I think I will skip the "beyond the veil" chapter...tooo sad [14:14] <Greeneyes15> yeah Prongs [14:14] <ProngsPatronus> me, too! [14:14] <Evreka> Prongs - I'd like to get HER OUT of the book so I can strangle her LOL [14:14] <MirandaV> Me too Prongs...let me give her one good bat bogey hex! [14:14] <Shard> I cant believe that woman got away with torturing just just Harry but also Lee as well [14:14] <JaneMarple9> Umbridge ispure evil - never thought i'd hate anyone more than severussnape [14:14] <Aislinn> I'm hoping there will be something juicy in the last book [14:14] <harryfreak359> Yes, same Ev lol [14:14] <MrMcGonagall> clop-clop, clop-clop, clop-clop. [14:14] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Are we going to discuss umbirdge today? [14:14] <Aislinn> LOL [14:14] <MirandaV> lol MrM [14:14] <harryfreak359> hehehe [14:14] <Ravenclaws_Heir> umbridge, I mean [14:14] <JaneMarple9> laugh that was a great bit with the centeurs! [14:14] <harryfreak359> it was it was indeed [14:14] <ProngsPatronus> I know--I cheered hermione on [14:14] <dumbleydore18> I hope they show the centaur scene in the movie [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> Yes, I will be asking questions in a particular order. I promise we will get to the characters you want to discuss, but please lets stay with the questions that are asked [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> we are about to begin [14:15] <antonin> yes i hate umbridge!!! grrr [14:15] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ooh, me too DD18 [14:15] <JaneMarple9> umbridge tortured most of the Gryffindor pupils! [14:15] <JMlovesHP> lol [14:15] <antonin> i used to hate snape as well janemarple [14:15] <Greeneyes15> [14:15] <antonin> oh yeah [14:15] <JaneMarple9> I still do sometimes biggrin [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> everyone ready? [14:15] <Aislinn> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [14:15] <Aislinn> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [14:16] <Aislinn> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [14:16] <Aislinn> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [14:16] <Aislinn> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> It's the P3 you've all been waiting for - the MEGA who will live and who will die chat!! [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> Will any of the government leaders (Fudge, Scrimgeour, the Muggle Minister) lose their lives? And if so, how early in Book 7? [14:16] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 [14:16] <dumbleydore18> yes! [14:16] <dumbleydore18> haha [14:17] <harryfreak359> Im sure that some of the ministy leaders will die [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its very possible [14:17] <dumbleydore18> *falls off bouncy* [14:17] <JaneMarple9> The muggle minister = yes i think [14:17] <ProngsPatronus> I am hoping Umbridge will die [14:17] <Evreka> I hope Fudge will get in trouble... [14:17] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Well...I think the muggle minister is safe because he is not a major enough role for his death to be significant. [14:17] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think they will. I think they might try to take Scrimgeour out, but he's a wily one. [14:17] <JaneMarple9> that will make the muggle world more aware of wizards [14:17] <antonin> smile [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> tell us how you really feel prongs *giggle* [14:17] <Evreka> I agree Ravenclaw [14:17] <Aislinn> I think we will definitely see Ministry officials die [14:17] <antonin> yes me too prongs [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it could be some random, meaningless character [14:18] <JaneMarple9> Scrimgeour is rather a background character for me [14:18] <MirandaV> Umbridge=DEATH [14:18] <Aislinn> I'd actually rather see her disgraced and displaced [14:18] <SoonerGryffindor> which would make it worse in a way [14:18] <harryfreak359> they have already started to die...with Madam Bones...etc [14:18] <JaneMarple9> Fudge - I think he will die [14:18] <antonin> maybe umbridge will die of being scared to death from ron's clip-clop noises [14:18] <antonin> haha [14:18] <ProngsPatronus> considering how few of them do a decent shield spell, I think we will see some attrition at the ministry [14:18] <MrMcGonagall> There will be attempts on the Muggle minister, perhaps, and attempts on Scrimgeour, but I don't think they will succeed. [14:18] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point hf [14:18] <Aislinn> that's a really good point harryfreak359 [14:18] <MirandaV> that would be worse for her Ainslinn [14:18] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [14:18] <SoonerGryffindor> hey carpe [14:18] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Scrimgeour will be targeted...but he used to be head of the auror department so he must be fairly skilled. I give him an 80% chance of death. [14:18] <JaneMarple9> and Umbridge - die die die die die biggrin [14:18] <harryfreak359> hey Carpe [14:18] <J_DIZZLE32> i think the muggle ministers wont make it because by doin so voldemort will most likely try to attract muggles attention to the wizarding world and thatd create a good distraction to the ministry [14:18] <MrMcGonagall> A number of Ministry officials probably will go. [14:18] <SoonerGryffindor> we just stated [14:18] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi CarpeDiem! [14:18] <Evreka> I'd love for Umbridge to come face to face with Voldemort... devil2 [14:18] <dumbleydore18> I mean....yes....i think fudge will most likely kick the bucket, I don't know about scrimgour his character isn't quite developed yet to know what's going to happen to him. I dont think the muggle minister will die though, he doesn't seem to be an apparent threat. [14:18] <CarpeDiem> Hi all! [14:18] <Aislinn> hi carpe smile [14:19] <Evreka> Hi [14:19] <antonin> hi carpe [14:19] <MirandaV> hi carpe [14:19] <JMlovesHP> I think that the muggle minister will die and then the magical ministers for fear of losing more muggles [14:19] <ltbrave23> actually i think fudge will make it, but i hope umbridge won't [14:19] <MrMcGonagall> Fudge is one of those people that is hardly worth doing in. [14:19] <antonin> what about dawlish? ;) [14:19] <JaneMarple9> Umbridge would probably become good friends with Voldemort.... [14:19] <SoonerGryffindor> What will happen to these beloved pets: Mrs. Norris, Crookshanks, Hedwig, Trevor, Buckbeak, Norbert, and Fawkes? Will they all live or will some die in the crossfire? [14:19] <JaneMarple9> horrible thought!! biggrin [14:19] <dumbleydore18> as far as how early or late in the book? Hm....I don't really know...it's going to be a big book I mean i don't want them to die on the very first page or the last....somewhere in the middle [14:19] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, Mr.M [14:19] <harryfreak359> I don't think we will see Fudge die, he lost his power as minister...that was a good enough downfall for him [14:19] <MirandaV> I suspect she works with him [14:19] <Ravenclaws_Heir> haha antonin [14:19] <SoonerGryffindor> For some reason, I am worried about Norbert [14:19] <JaneMarple9> oooo Mrs Norris - die [14:20] <ProngsPatronus> I think Hedwig will be a target--and won't make it [14:20] <CarpeDiem> Awww...I never thought of that...she wouldn't kill a pet would she!? [14:20] <Evreka> Fawkes is impossible to kill - but will we even see him? [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh [14:20] <harryfreak359> I think most of those pets will live... [14:20] <antonin> mrs. norris is pure evil! [14:20] <ProngsPatronus> Buckbeak, the same [14:20] <Evreka> lol sooner! [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think I would take it well if something happens to Hedwig [14:20] <JaneMarple9> but the rest of them - Hedwig, Crookshanks, Trevor, Buckbeak will all survive [14:20] <Aislinn> Buckbeak seems the most at risk to me [14:20] <MrMcGonagall> Mrs. Norris will turn to the dark side and get gobbled up by Buckbeak. [14:20] <harryfreak359> Mrs Norris and Trevor are the ones that I have some suspisicions of... [14:20] <Aislinn> I'm not sure we will see any of them die though [14:20] <ProngsPatronus> JKR said that Harry would be getting a new pet [14:20] <JaneMarple9> but Norbert - nice point [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> well, Buckbeak has been in the line of fire twice already [14:20] <MirandaV> Not Hedwig, I might shed a tear then [14:20] <antonin> i hope she does kill miss norris [14:20] <JMlovesHP> they might all live for their animal instincts could protect them [14:20] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [14:20] <JaneMarple9> he could be in danger [14:20] <harryfreak359> I think Beaky will be ok [14:21] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Honestly...as with the Muggle Prime Minister I'm not sure if Voldemort will consider them important enough to kill. With the exception of Fawkes, who would have no trouble eluding him. And Hedwig, who he might kill in an effort to intercept Harry's mail. [14:21] <Evreka> I don't think the pets are the first to go... [14:21] <MirandaV> I don't know...Buckbeak and Hedwig both would protect Harry [14:21] <Aislinn> Mrs. Norris isn't evil - she is a loyal pet to her companion [14:21] <JaneMarple9> harryfreak - why are you worried about trevor? [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm just thinking they may die for their owners, if that makes any sense [14:21] <dumbleydore18> they will help in the fight...somehow...Trevor could croak people to death or eat them alive...you never know Trevor has secrets, Mrs. Norris will be the evil detector, crookshanks will help he just will, buckbeak can smash death eaters, *gasp* Norbert, now wouldn't that be a sight....ooooo i can't wait! [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> Buckbeak would [14:21] <MirandaV> I agree Sooner [14:21] <harryfreak359> he tends to disappear a lot...and nothing has really happened with him yet [14:21] <Evreka> Hedwig possibly for mail itnterference [14:21] <J_DIZZLE32> i think the animals will leave [14:21] <antonin> i always thought that hagrid would get norbert back and with him maybe lead a dragon army against voldy! [14:21] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree. Miranda [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> and Hedwig must be a target [14:21] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [14:21] <J_DIZZLE32> live** [14:21] <JMlovesHP> hey greeneyes [14:21] <Ravenclaws_Heir> HI greeneyes [14:22] <JaneMarple9> hmmm trevor does do a lot of disappearing [14:22] <SoonerGryffindor> Hedwig has already been targeted [14:22] <Greeneyes15> Yikes! i totally got diconncted and i thought i wasn't gonna be able to get back on! [14:22] <MirandaV> That's true Jane [14:22] <ProngsPatronus> yes--and was wounded [14:22] <JaneMarple9> perhaps he is a animagus? [14:22] <ProngsPatronus> she is conspicuous [14:22] <Evreka> I think the offsprings of Aragog might do some killings though [14:22] <ltbrave23> i don't think hedwig will get much use [14:22] <JMlovesHP> i agree jane [14:22] <antonin> buckbeak (or should i say witherwings) is so loyal, he already risked his life to save harry in HBP [14:22] <Greeneyes15> what the topic question? [14:22] <antonin> hi greeneyes [14:22] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Are you refering to when Umbridge intercepted Hedwig, Sooner? [14:22] <Greeneyes15> hey [14:22] <Evreka> hopefully of DEs... devil2 [14:22] <dumbleydore18> Hedwig I think will probably end up dieing saving Harry....delivering him a letter or something or maybe using magical powers. I think the animals all have some magical powers [14:22] <MirandaV> I also think that Hedwig and Buckbeak wouldn't think twice about flying into the fray to protect Harry [14:22] <MrMcGonagall> Pets: which ones will live or die? [14:22] <SoonerGryffindor> we are just wrapping up pets and getting ready to move on [14:22] <antonin> haha [14:22] <JaneMarple9> which animals will live of die [14:23] <Greeneyes15> o ok thanx [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Mad-Eye Moody has also taken quite a beating over the years. What are his chances of making to the end of the series? [14:23] <JaneMarple9> but fawkes will survive [14:23] <antonin> live or die [14:23] <Evreka> agree Miranda [14:23] <ProngsPatronus> Buckbeak may have a part to play against nagini, too [14:23] <JaneMarple9> fawkes will become harrys new pet [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> not so great, IMO [14:23] <JaneMarple9> moody will live [14:23] <harryfreak359> I think that he will some how pull througrh it once again. [14:23] <Greeneyes15> Ummm... [14:23] <ltbrave23> i think he will die but taking down as many as possible [14:23] <antonin> yes i agree miranda [14:23] <Evreka> I don't know [14:23] <MrMcGonagall> Hmmm. I'm not sure his reflexes are what they used to be. I see him taking a digger. [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I think MeM may die [14:23] <MirandaV> I think it may be Mad Eye's time [14:23] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hmmmm...he's pretty hearty [14:23] <Greeneyes15> i hop ehe lives [14:23] <J_DIZZLE32> i think made-eye wont make it he'll probably show up trying to help harry somewhere and die helpin him [14:23] <JaneMarple9> hopefully become a DADA again [14:23] <dumbleydore18> I think Moody will put up a huge fight to the end, It will be sad to see him go. *tear* [14:23] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [14:23] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I can't see anything taking him down [14:23] <Evreka> good I think with his constant vigilance *change from Central to Eastern time zone - none of the chat is missing* [15:24] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [15:24] *** Topic is: The mega live or die chat [15:24] *** Topic set by Aislinn [Thu Dec 7 20:19:15 2006] [15:24] <ProngsPatronus> I don't know that he is paranoid enough--I think he will lead the OotP [15:24] <ProngsPatronus> and give his life in the fight [15:24] <Greeneyes15> hah Evreka [15:24] <Greeneyes15> *haha [15:24] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree about him leading the order, Prongs [15:24] <MirandaV> I agree Prongs [15:24] <antonin> really? [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I see Moody as almost damaged goods. He is carrying around a lot of baggage from voldywar I [15:24] <antonin> yeah i think you might be right [15:24] <JaneMarple9> Moody is very handy with his eye [15:24] <Greeneyes15> i agree sooner [15:24] <Evreka> After the trunk I think he'll be even more wary of dangers [15:24] <antonin> but he's so cautios all hte time [15:25] <MirandaV> True Sooner [15:25] <Aislinn> I think Moody is definitely at risk [15:25] <antonin> hahaha good one evreka [15:25] <Ravenclaws_Heir> True, sooner, but he is also carrying a lot of experiance from the first war with it [15:25] <Aislinn> He is slowing down, yet still in the battle [15:25] <Greeneyes15> i don't know if Moody has it in him to lead th eOrder, u know? [15:25] <Shard> I think there is a good chance Moody will die, it's more if the plot rquires it [15:25] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [15:25] <Ravenclaws_Heir> That could help him this time [15:25] <CarpeDiem> If he does go down, I'm sure he's take quite a few down doing it. It will be a noble death smile [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> hey future! [15:25] <harryfreak359> hi Future! [15:25] <ProngsPatronus> I would say with his Auror training, he is the most experienced [15:25] <MirandaV> hi future [15:25] <Greeneyes15> HI FUTURE! [15:25] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi future! [15:25] <JaneMarple9> hey future [15:25] <CarpeDiem> Hiya FW [15:25] <futureweasley> hey there [15:25] <Aislinn> hi future [15:25] <JMlovesHP> hey future [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, I predict that if he does die, he is going to take quite a few with him [15:25] *** shadow_onthesun has joined #lounge [15:25] <Evreka> hi fw [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> hey shadow [15:25] <antonin> yeah i think so too [15:25] <Ravenclaws_Heir> We're talking about moody, live or die [15:25] <futureweasley> I think the lag monster has me [15:25] <Greeneyes15> Yeah, but i don't think Moody can do it Prongs [15:25] <ProngsPatronus> heeyy, future! [15:26] <JMlovesHP> hey shadow [15:26] <Ravenclaws_Heir> hi shadow [15:26] <JaneMarple9> he does have good experience, moody [15:26] <Greeneyes15> hi shadow [15:26] <shadow_onthesun> hi! [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> Lupin and Tonks are in pretty dangerous lines of work (werewolf, Auror, Order members). Will they get their happy ending or meet a tragic fate? [15:26] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [15:26] <Evreka> kill it, fw!! wink [15:26] <Aislinn> NOOOOO [15:26] <ProngsPatronus> I do--he has leadership abilities--look at the times he has been targeted [15:26] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [15:26] <MirandaV> I think he will at least be the strategist of the Order. Think about it, he knows LV's methods very well and has been one of the best Aurors [15:26] <CarpeDiem> Good point Prongs. I hope Mad Eye has time to depart info on to Harry if he is indeed marked for death. [15:26] <JaneMarple9> so he could take down a lot of d-eaters [15:26] <Greeneyes15> yes yes yes!! [15:26] <Aislinn> they are not going to die [15:26] <MrMcGonagall> Gosh, I hope they make it. [15:26] <antonin> yeah me too future weasley [15:26] <Evreka> I fear they might die [15:26] <ProngsPatronus> I think Lupin will die [15:26] <futureweasley> they have to have a happy ending [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I used to think that Lupin was going to die, then came Tonks..... [15:26] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think...at least one of them has to die. As much as I want to see werewolf babies with pink hair...I just can't see this happy couple making it. [15:26] <Greeneyes15> they :heart: each other... their love has just begun [15:26] <futureweasley> I really do hope they do...too much suffering already [15:26] <Evreka> will Harry be allowed to have any Marasuder left to turn too? [15:26] <Aislinn> my view has nothing to do with plot, and everything to do with personal feelings ;) [15:27] <JaneMarple9> oh...let them live let them live let them live biggrin [15:27] <MrMcGonagall> I'm in an optimistic mood, so I'll say they both make it, although there will be some close shaves, especially for Lupin. [15:27] <dumbleydore18> I don't want Lupin to die nor do I Tonks. I named my cat after Lupin...he can't die! I want to see atleast some of James [15:27] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [15:27] <MirandaV> I hope the live [15:27] <harryfreak359> I think that they are safe...hopefully. [15:27] *** DeathlyHallower has joined #lounge [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Why waste time on that ship is one or both is to die? [15:27] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [15:27] <futureweasley> exactly Aislinn...I want a happy ending for those two [15:27] <harryfreak359> but Lupin would be the one I am worried about... [15:27] <ProngsPatronus> Luopin will find a warm welcome behind the veil-- [15:27] <dumbleydore18> 'I want to see atleast some of James's friends be alive for Harrry [15:27] <Greeneyes15> they have to have little wearwolf puppies! [15:27] <JMlovesHP> hey deathly [15:27] <antonin> no, not lupin! [15:27] <J_DIZZLE32> I dont see either of them die'ing xcept maybe lupin if he hangs out on the underground too much and messes with the werewolves [15:27] <DeathlyHallower> hey [15:27] <Aislinn> Enough Marauders have met tragic ends, I don't want to see Lupin go also [15:27] <MirandaV> Well dumbley...I named my dog after Sirius and that didn't help [15:27] <futureweasley> heartless Sooner...just heartless [15:27] <JaneMarple9> But if one of them dies, let it be tonks - after having some pink furry werepuppies! [15:27] <futureweasley> lol [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I think there wil be one Marauder left standing when all is done [15:27] <Ravenclaws_Heir> With Lupin...he is the last of the loyal marauders. If he died it would just be so tragic, yet I can see JKR doing it. [15:27] <Evreka> me neither Aislinn, but Jo might [15:27] <antonin> hi deathlyhallower [15:28] <Aislinn> and I hope that one is Lupin, not Peter [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah [15:28] <ProngsPatronus> the old must make way for the new [15:28] <Ravenclaws_Heir> hi DH! [15:28] <Greeneyes15> i agree sooner [15:28] <Evreka> Not Peter, I hope sooner! [15:28] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good Point Prongs [15:28] <futureweasley> psst, Aislinn fangirls Lupin *snicker* [15:28] <dumbleydore18> I think LUpin will servive because he will end up turning the other werewolves against Fenrir and Tonks will just help fight along side the other Aurors and kick butt [15:28] <Shard> Lupin will survive [15:28] <Shard> as will Tonks [15:28] <Aislinn> totally, future [15:28] <MirandaV> I don't think Lupin will die...I think he's kind of been the weakest Marauder link and it's ironic that he would be left standing, so he will [15:28] <CarpeDiem> lol futureweasley [15:28] <DeathlyHallower> hey everyone. yeah, i think lupin will survive [15:28] <JaneMarple9> one marauder left standing - that will be lupin [15:28] <Aislinn> a character worthy of fan-girling [15:28] <JaneMarple9> not wormtail [15:28] <Pellinore> Lupin seems like a tragic hero.. either he or Tonks will probably die to would be my guess. [15:28] <Evreka> Peter was the weakest [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> if you buy into the order of the names on the Marauders Map, Lupin will live [15:29] <Aislinn> Peter is the most venal [15:29] <Greeneyes15> if wormtail lived and lupin died i would be discusted! [15:29] <MirandaV> I mean physically Evreka [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> or at least die last [15:29] <ProngsPatronus> don't get me wrong--I like Lupin, too--but I think he will join Sirius and James [15:29] <Evreka> What Sooner? [15:29] <ltbrave23> if wormtail is the one left i will scream, and then cry because lupin would have died [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> the order of the names [15:29] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Then again, it would be very poetic for the last of the marauders to die just as Harry reaches manhood [15:29] <antonin> haha FW [15:29] <Evreka> me too greeneyes! [15:29] <dumbleydore18> I also think hat Lupin will survive because he was the peace maker with in the marauders and will use that skill somewhere else [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> some people are predicting they die in reverse order of their names [15:29] <CarpeDiem> Lupin has such an ability with Harry...it would be great to see them get closer after LV is gone [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, Prongs [15:29] <MirandaV> Lupin suffers physically more than the others, his transformation is not voluntary [15:30] <shadow_onthesun> wormtail is a traitor (to lv AND the potters) so i cant see him being the only one left. lupin should survive [15:30] <Aislinn> Lupin will certainly be at risk, but I do think that the fact that Jo took the time to develop the ship she did speaks to a possibility that both of them may make it [15:30] <JaneMarple9> I Likkkkkkkeeeeeee that idea Sooner w00t2 [15:30] <harryfreak359> that's interesting Sooner, I've never seen that before [15:30] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Aislinn. [15:30] <antonin> yes i agree aislinn [15:30] <Evreka> Ah, I see thanks Sooner [15:30] <MirandaV> I agree Aislinn [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I've seen it around the lounge [15:30] <futureweasley> I'm hoping that the people who have suffered the most, survive. Lupin and Tonks rate right up there in the "personal tragedy" category [15:30] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> Many Order members have given their lives for the cause. What will happen to other Order members like Dedalus Diggle, Mrs. Figg, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Mundungus, and Aberforth? Will any of them be killed? [15:30] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I very much want to believe that Aislinn....but they are both such at risk [15:30] <ProngsPatronus> however, that might just make his death more horrible [15:30] <Aislinn> they certainly have suffered enough, yes future [15:31] <antonin> pettigrew owes harry a life debt, though, so i think he'll bite the dust [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, I can't see them all making it. [15:31] <JaneMarple9> Mrs figg - no she will be ok [15:31] <Aislinn> definitely [15:31] <Evreka> I think many Order members will die [15:31] <Aislinn> we will see the loss of Order members [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> I'm probably most afraid for Mrs. figg. [15:31] <MirandaV> Some will live, some will die, it's war [15:31] <harryfreak359> I'm sure that some of them are going to be die [15:31] <JaneMarple9> she will be performing magic [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> me too Mr M [15:31] <ProngsPatronus> I think the order will be decimated [15:31] <MirandaV> there will be death [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> however, I do think she will be the one to do magic [15:31] <JMlovesHP> i think those order members wont die [15:31] <antonin> i thought about that too, sooner, its a good point [15:31] <futureweasley> evil doesn't target the extras...per Jo. Someone from that group is going down...but I don't think it will be made some huge deal [15:31] <J_DIZZLE32> i think or at least hope mundungus goes after bein a thiefing little one, cause its making it harder to tell if he took the locketsad [15:31] <DeathlyHallower> I think Mrs. Figg will be ok, but we know that some will die [15:31] <CarpeDiem> I think the lesser known order members would be "easier" in a sense to kill off. That way you get a sense of tragedy without hitting too close to home smile [15:31] <dumbleydore18> I hope Figg will not die, we don't know much about Diggle so he may die...the non main characters always die [15:31] <JaneMarple9> shacklebolt - could be in danger, seeming he works for muggle pm [15:31] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I don't think there is any chance that all of the order members will live. In fact, I would be willing to bet that the majority don't [15:31] <MirandaV> I think Mrs. Figg will do magic too [15:31] <antonin> but i don't think that lupin will die at all [15:31] *** JMlovesHP left #lounge [] [15:31] <Evreka> Hagrid said in GOF that it wouldn't be time to dispair because they had Albus... now we don't I think it will be noticeable [15:31] <MrMcGonagall> Her proximity to Privet Drive doesn't work in Arabella's favor, in my opinion. [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Dizzle, Dung cant die too soon [15:32] <JaneMarple9> Mundungus - hopefully not die [15:32] <antonin> yeah [15:32] <dumbleydore18> as far as the others.... Hmmm I see them being hurt or fighting and living [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> right [15:32] <JaneMarple9> but I wouldn't be heartbroken if he did [15:32] <Evreka> I hope Arabwella lives - I like her [15:32] <harryfreak359> I hope so too Ev [15:32] <Ravenclaws_Heir> mundungus...I think will live. He has become very good at sneaking around and hiding from everyone. I think these skills will aid him in the second war [15:32] <Evreka> she might be the one to do magic late in life [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> for some reason, I think it would be really sad if Kingsley died [15:32] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I do too, evreka [15:32] <JaneMarple9> yes ravenclaw [15:33] <dumbleydore18> Figg is a woman after my own heart...she is the cat lady.... [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> Mundungus consorts with some pretty dodgy characters, though--that puts him at risk [15:33] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [15:33] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol DD18 [15:33] <futureweasley> all single women with no magical power and an affinity for cats are pulling for Mrs. Figg to live [15:33] <harryfreak359> Yes, same sooner, I'd nearly be in tears if Kingsley died... [15:33] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Pleshette [15:33] <JaneMarple9> thats the only thing in mundungus favour, he is good at creeping about [15:33] <MirandaV> I don't think outside of Lupin, Tonks, and the Weasley's there are any order members that I would say it would be heartbreaking to see die. Sad, yes, but not heartbreaking [15:33] <harryfreak359> hi Pleshette! [15:33] *** Ami has joined #lounge [15:33] <Ravenclaws_Heir> HI Pleshette [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Ami [15:33] <MirandaV> hi pleshette [15:33] <Ravenclaws_Heir> agreed, miranda [15:33] <harryfreak359> hey Ami [15:33] <Pleshette> Everyone is going to live! [15:33] <JaneMarple9> hey pleshette [15:33] <ltbrave23> i agree miranda [15:33] <Evreka> Dung - I'm afraid he'll change side if he could win by it [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Pleshette [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> well, they already killed my fave [15:33] <dumbleydore18> haha t hat about sums me up Future...single woman with 6 cats lol [15:33] <harryfreak359> lol [15:33] <Pleshette> Oh, what's the question? [15:33] <antonin> i like mrs. figg, how she was so crazy at the beginning of OotP [15:33] <MirandaV> hi Ami [15:33] <shadow_onthesun> i dont think many of them are important enough to have a huge dramatic death. if they do die it wont be a huge event in the book [15:33] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol pleshette [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> Many Order members have given their lives for the cause. What will happen to other Order members like Dedalus Diggle, Mrs. Figg, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Mundungus, and Aberforth? Will any of them be killed? [15:33] * Pleshette waves to everyone [15:33] <Pellinore> all of those are supporting characters and will have some role in the books i would assume, especially Aberforth so if they do die it would almost have to be after they reveal something. [15:33] <antonin> hi pleshetter [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> repeat of last question [15:34] *** sdcurtis has joined #lounge [15:34] <Ravenclaws_Heir> order members...live or die [15:34] * JaneMarple9 waves back [15:34] <MirandaV> I love cats! [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I also think that Aberforth might not make it [15:34] <MirandaV> Just had to throw that in [15:34] <futureweasley> for whatever reason, I think Shacklebolt is going down [15:34] <antonin> hi ami [15:34] *** sdcurtis has quit [Bye] [15:34] <Ravenclaws_Heir> hi sdcurtis ! [15:34] *** artlady has joined #lounge [15:34] <harryfreak359> He might not, im not sure about him [15:34] <JaneMarple9> aberforth...no i think he is ok [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> hey artlady [15:34] <Aislinn> he may do that defending the Muggle prime minister, future [15:34] <ProngsPatronus> he is exposed, and just might, future [15:34] <dumbleydore18> I think Aberforth will make it, he will be a great mentor to Harry [15:34] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:34] <antonin> yeah, go pleshette!!! [15:34] *** artlady has quit [Bye] [15:34] <MirandaV> I can't wait to see what is in store for us with Aberforth period...I'm very interested [15:34] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think he will, sooner. Harry needs a little something left of DD to cling to. [15:34] <antonin> live or die [15:34] <Evreka> I doubt it dumbley [15:34] <JaneMarple9> one dumbledore is enough to die [15:34] <Pleshette> Oh I hope Shacklebolt doesn't die [15:34] <DeathlyHallower> i think Aberforth will live, I really like him, I hope we will get to know him much better [15:35] *** artlady has joined #lounge [15:35] <harryfreak359> test [15:35] <ProngsPatronus> well, Aberforth is an unknown quality at this point [15:35] <Ravenclaws_Heir> agreed, jane [15:35] <harryfreak359> ehhh lag [15:35] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [15:35] <dumbleydore18> Squeeee artlady!!!!!!!! [15:35] <MirandaV> Hi art [15:35] <Pleshette> hey lady! [15:35] *** artlady has quit [Bye] [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Trelawney is probably safe at Hogwarts, but is there any chance her hidden memory of the prophecy will put her in danger of losing her life? [15:35] <Pellinore> I agree FW, Shacklebolt seems like the competant good guy that will be used to show how nasty and/or able a bad guy is by killing Shacklebolt. [15:35] <Ravenclaws_Heir> same DH [15:35] <antonin> hmm... [15:35] <antonin> hi artlady [15:35] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [15:35] <ProngsPatronus> trelawney is in great danger, I think [15:35] <ltbrave23> i think she will be in danger [15:35] <Evreka> yes I think there is [15:35] <futureweasley> she's in danger big time [15:35] <JaneMarple9> she is in great danger [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think there's a chance she might already be in the enemies hands [15:35] <Pleshette> Yes, I think she is in danger [15:35] <harryfreak359> did I miss a question? [15:35] <antonin> is there any particular reason why it takes my compy 30 seconds for each post to register??? [15:35] <MirandaV> The sad part is...she doesn't even remember what she said [15:35] <JaneMarple9> yes i think she is in danger of voldemort's clutches [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, I think poor old Sybill is going to bite the dust big-time. [15:36] <Evreka> that's probably why Albus didn't want her to leave in OOTP [15:36] <antonin> or does everyone's? [15:36] <DeathlyHallower> i agree jane [15:36] <J_DIZZLE32> oh yes voldemort always been very hung on knowing the full prophecy, he's went serious lengths to know it i doubt he'll quit any time soon [15:36] <JaneMarple9> just lag antonin smile [15:36] <Aislinn> I think Trelawney is at great risk [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I just dropped a q about Trelawney hf [15:36] <MirandaV> Or know she sai dit [15:36] <shadow_onthesun> im not sure tht hogwarts is safe for her. i think she wil be tortured but will be brave [15:36] <harryfreak359> ok thanks sooner [15:36] <harryfreak359> the lag monster got me [15:36] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [15:36] <Aislinn> I could see her suffering Bertha Jorkin's fate [15:36] <ProngsPatronus> me, too, Ais [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> Me too, Aislinn. [15:36] <dumbleydore18> I think as long as she remains hidden she will be okay [15:36] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Well, I don't think Hogwarts is really and safe fortress now that DD is gone. But did snape every tell Voldemort who it was who made the prophecy? He may not havce known her name at the time. Depending on whom snape is loyal to now, Voldemort may not know that it was her that made the prophecy [15:36] <MirandaV> I don't think she has to be brave shadow...she doesn't even know or remember what she said [15:36] <Pleshette> that's true Aislinn, poor Sybil [15:36] <harryfreak359> I think that trelawney is going to be in danger, but I hope she makes it [15:36] <Evreka> me too Aislinn [15:36] *** Rayla has joined #lounge [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> who all thinks she has already ben abducted? [15:36] <Pellinore> Unless Trelawney is tied somehow to the Ravenclaw horcrux i think her race is run in the series. Maybe a small "I came around full circle" type of thing for Harry with the prophecy but i don't see Trelawney as being needed. [15:36] <JaneMarple9> she is in the most danger of all the professors [15:36] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:37] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi rayla [15:37] <ProngsPatronus> and McGonagall doen't appreciate why she is there [15:37] <dumbleydore18> I also agree with Aislinn, she is easily gullable and can be manipulated into anything [15:37] <Pleshette> Hi greeneyes [15:37] <Rayla> hello [15:37] <Ravenclaws_Heir> hi greeneyes [15:37] <Pellinore> Did we not see Trelawney at the funeral? [15:37] <MirandaV> WB greeneyes [15:37] <JaneMarple9> oh yes dumbley very easily manipulated [15:37] <antonin> okay : ) [15:37] *** bubblehead has joined #lounge [15:37] <JaneMarple9> not sure Pellinore [15:37] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I'm not sure, DD18. I think she may be more astute than she lets on... [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Minerva McGonagall was injured in Book 5, and she's getting up there in years. Will she like Dumbledore lose her life while she's head of Hogwarts? [15:38] <J_DIZZLE32> they definately didnt go into detail or even mention trelawny so its a possibility [15:38] <shadow_onthesun> what i meant by brave is that although she is a drama queen normally we will see another side of her. she will be composed in the face of real pain and danger [15:38] <antonin> me too, HF [15:38] * MrMcGonagall runs and hides. [15:38] <bubblehead> hello everybody [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [15:38] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [15:38] <ProngsPatronus> I think Minerva will make it [15:38] <antonin> mine has the whole time, sadly [15:38] <JaneMarple9> she's to interested in sherry bottles smile [15:38] <Pleshette> McGonagall lives! [15:38] <ltbrave23> no i think she will make it [15:38] <harryfreak359> I think that she will be ok [15:38] <Evreka> I fear for her lifeand I'm afraid she WILL die sad [15:38] <DeathlyHallower> i think she'll live [15:38] <JaneMarple9> hug Mr McGonagal hug [15:38] <Evreka> I like her [15:38] <futureweasley> McG is going to dig her heels in and defend Hogwarts. Live or die, she will be sure that Hogwarts is as safe as it can be [15:38] <Pleshette> She's a tough old bird... [15:38] <MirandaV> Ahh..I see shadow...okay then I agree smile [15:38] <dumbleydore18> no minerva I think was caught off gaurd then...she is one tough cookie...she will make it! [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> The fact that she is not afraid to jump in and take stunners to the chest or to fight DE's in Hogwarts makes me scared for her [15:38] <J_DIZZLE32> She'll make it, because i dont think ive seen her act out toward voldemort to the point of serious detail [15:38] <futureweasley> she's a real tough cookie with a long history, if you ask me [15:38] <Pellinore> I don't see a very good replacement for McGonagall so i'd see her as living just to fullfill the Headmistress possition. [15:38] *** bubblehead has quit [Bye] [15:38] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I'm afraid for her. She is one of my favorite characters and I don't want to see her die. But...she is getting older and I am afraid for her life. [15:39] <JaneMarple9> don't worry your name sake will survive biggrin [15:39] <Evreka> What do Mr McGonagall think? wink [15:39] *** shadow_onthesun left #lounge [] [15:39] <ProngsPatronus> did she not say that DD had predicted the end of hogwarts? [15:39] <Pleshette> Exactly my thought sooner [15:39] <antonin> hi bubbleheard [15:39] <MirandaV> Mrs. McGonalgall lives!!! [15:39] <Ravenclaws_Heir> agreed, sooner [15:39] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, future. If she goes down, it will be in a Gryffindor blaze of glory. [15:39] <Aislinn> I think that the school will be attacked, and that a lot of people there will be at risk [15:39] <Pleshette> But I think she'll be alright [15:39] <MirandaV> That's true Sooner, but she's a tough old broad and I think she'll live [15:39] <dumbleydore18> when was that pp? [15:39] <Ravenclaws_Heir> agreed, Mr.M [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I hope so [15:39] <antonin> yes she will make it! [15:39] <antonin> minerva, i mean [15:40] <Ravenclaws_Heir> If she dies, she will do so nobly [15:40] <Pleshette> I think we'll see her carry on as headmistress when all is said and done [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> me, too [15:40] <antonin> about trelawney she's in risk [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> Like Moody, if she goes, there will be bodies all around that she took with her [15:40] <ltbrave23> i think so too [15:40] <harryfreak359> i agree pleshette, [15:40] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I hope so, Pleshette! [15:40] <JaneMarple9> She will behead mistress for a long long time [15:40] <JaneMarple9> behead biggrin [15:40] <Pellinore> behead? ;O [15:40] <dumbleydore18> lol [15:40] <Aislinn> who is she beheading, jane? [15:40] <Aislinn> laugh [15:40] <Pleshette> Oh no Jane! lol [15:40] <JaneMarple9> not a ghost headmistress biggrin [15:41] <harryfreak359> lol [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Oooh here is a tough one coming up happy_crying [15:41] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Again, I hope so sooner but when she was attacked with stunners she didn't exactly take down many others with her. [15:41] <futureweasley> if McG is shot through the heart, I'm willing to be that Snape's to blame. He gives Hogwart's Staffers a bad name [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Rubeus Hagrid is pretty thick-skinned. Will he survive? Why or why not? [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> grin [15:41] <harryfreak359> oh no! [15:41] <JaneMarple9> that was be headmistress biggrin [15:41] <antonin> yes, jo has already nearly killed her, she's not going to do anything else to her [15:41] <Evreka> lag is killing me... [15:41] *** Evreka left #lounge [] [15:41] <MrMcGonagall> LOL, future [15:41] <harryfreak359> Hagrid is going to die sad [15:41] <Pleshette> I fear for Hagrid [15:41] <MirandaV> she can join the headless hunt, sir nicholas will be so jealous [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> no, Hagrid will not survive [15:41] <Ravenclaws_Heir> oooh! I am soooo on the fence here. [15:41] <ltbrave23> i hate saying it but i think he will die [15:41] <dumbleydore18> *starts crying*.....I don't want Hagggg to die.... [15:41] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:41] <Aislinn> Hagrid is likely to die, much as I hate to think of it [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Sadly, I am convinved he is going to die [15:41] <dumbleydore18> Hagrrrrr* [15:41] <JaneMarple9> I honestly don't know sad [15:41] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [15:41] <DeathlyHallower> i don't think he will survive. To me, he seems like an expendable character. I hope he doesn't though [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> a bunch of different evidence points to that fact [15:41] <MirandaV> no idea [15:42] * JaneMarple9 asks Ravenclaw to budge up the fence [15:42] <MrMcGonagall> I can't decide. I think he may originally have been, but I suspect he may have gotten a reprieve. [15:42] <Rayla> i don't want him too, but i think its very likely he will [15:42] <Pellinore> Hagrid represents innocence... he's toast to allude to Harry being grown up. [15:42] <Aislinn> I don't see anyone as expendable, deathly [15:42] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol Jane [15:42] <futureweasley> Hagrid will likely die, but I think it will be in an attempt to save his brother...not necessarily to save Harry [15:42] * ProngsPatronus thinks we will be wading in blood in DH [15:42] <J_DIZZLE32> i think he might go because i think hes gonna do sumthing very heroic and die ... its the only way i could see hagrid goin out, where he always has been so good to harry This post has been edited by Aislinn: Feb 18 2007, 05:39 PM |
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[15:42] <dumbleydore18> *grabs a box of tissue* I can't see Hagrid dieing I dont want him to....
[15:42] <JaneMarple9> Hagrid is in danger [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> me neither Aislinn [15:42] <Pleshette> Interesting future...that's very possible [15:42] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:42] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I guess if I had to choose I would say die. I could see Hagrid giving his life for Harry in an instant [15:42] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [15:42] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:42] <MirandaV> or save Norbert [15:42] <J_DIZZLE32> i agree ravenclaw [15:42] <antonin> yes, lag is being cruel to me!!!! [15:43] <JaneMarple9> /me hands dumbley a box of tissues [15:43] <Pellinore> Hagrid dies then Grawp turns the DE that killed him into a tent stake.... WHAM... [15:43] <antonin> die, lag!!!!!!!! [15:43] <harryfreak359> interesting Future...I can see that happening [15:43] <futureweasley> hey Lag, don't be cruel! [15:43] *** antonin left #lounge [] [15:43] <dumbleydore18> I don't want Hagrid to die.... [15:43] <ltbrave23> i really could see hagrid dieing to save even fang, it's just hagrid's nature [15:43] <dumbleydore18> no Hagrid will live [15:43] <JaneMarple9> oh Hagrid dying for Norbert.....noo sad [15:43] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, Itbrave [15:43] <JaneMarple9> Hagrid will die for Harry though [15:43] <J_DIZZLE32> yea [15:43] <ProngsPatronus> he is Keeper of the keys--I think he would go down trying to protect Hogwarts [15:44] <futureweasley> the image of Fang's limp body draped over his shoulders in OotP...yeah, he'd die for Fang [15:44] <Aislinn> Hagrid would be willing to die for Harry, Jane [15:44] *** antonin has joined #lounge [15:44] <Aislinn> yes Prongs, I agree [15:44] <antonin> i tried to kill the lag monster, i hope it worked [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> Will the other past or current Hogwarts staff live or die? They include people like: Slughorn, Hooch, Madame Pince, Filch, Sprout, Flitwick, Lockhart, etc. [15:44] <dumbleydore18> wow I didnt think this chat was going to be emotional for me....I'm okay guys [15:44] <antonin> yay, somewhat [15:44] <ProngsPatronus> alchemically, he is slated to die, too [15:44] <Evreka> I worry for Slughorn mostly [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder about Suggy [15:44] <JaneMarple9> slughorn yes in danger [15:44] <harryfreak359> I think some will die, uhm Slughorn is in danger I think and Flitwick [15:44] <Evreka> with his connection to young Tom [15:44] <Aislinn> Sprout has to go at some point to make way for Neville to take over the Herbology teacher position [15:44] <J_DIZZLE32> i doubt lockharts going ne where seemsdont think he'll get out of the nuthouse [15:44] <dumbleydore18> Slughorm will die...he knows too much [15:45] <Aislinn> so maybe she will die [15:45] <Evreka> and comming to help Albus out [15:45] <ProngsPatronus> I think Sluggy and Flitwick are both in terrible danger [15:45] <antonin> lockhart might be teamed up on by all of the awesome people he stole the deeds from [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh, good point Aislinn [15:45] <Pellinore> Flitwick maybe, since he's another good guy that can die to show the ability of a bad guy... but i'd rather see Warwick Davis kick'n tail! o; [15:45] <antonin> why flitwick prongs [15:45] <JaneMarple9> hooch is a background character and so it sprout flitwit and hooch [15:45] <antonin> ? [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> lol DIzzle. Actually, I think that Lockhart might make a reappearance [15:45] <futureweasley> Hooch would have quidditch bludgers there to aide her...I'm not concerned for her [15:45] <Pleshette> Yes Slughorn...not so sure of the others though it's definitely a possibility [15:45] <ProngsPatronus> he was a dueling champion in his youth [15:45] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think that if Voldemort trys to take over Hogwarts each and every one of them would fight to the death to protect the students. So yes, I think they are in a fair amount of danger [15:45] <JaneMarple9> flitwit was in dnager in book 6 [15:45] <antonin> haha FW [15:45] <JaneMarple9> they won't harm him again [15:45] <Aislinn> I agree, ravenclaw, and I think that is going to happen [15:45] <harryfreak359> lol [15:46] <dumbleydore18> I will kill Lockhart...I hate him...can't stand his character! *lash of anger* sorry... guys...I want him dead lol [15:46] <antonin> true Ravenclaws heir [15:46] <J_DIZZLE32> yea when the gang was there he was trying to git out if i remember correctly so i guess its a possibility, might slip by the healers [15:46] <harryfreak359> I agree raven and Aislinn [15:46] <JaneMarple9> filch isn't in danger - except for joining Voldies band of merry men [15:46] <Pellinore> they might try but it would be lame for him to get shot in the back a 2nd time. [15:46] <JaneMarple9> awww Lockheart! He's a really nice character [15:46] <antonin> he's a funny character [15:46] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I don't think Lockhart is important enough for Voldemort to kill. He is really no threat whatsoever at all. [15:46] <Pleshette> I don't think we'll see Lockhart in the last book [15:46] <ProngsPatronus> and it is said that Ravenclaw will have its day--right now, that is Flitwick [15:46] <MirandaV> Oooh...can we put them in green tights? [15:46] <Aislinn> I don't think that Lockhart will be part of things [15:46] <Pellinore> I thought JkR said that Lockheart's story has run its course. [15:46] <Ravenclaws_Heir> True, prongs [15:47] <antonin> yeah i know [15:47] <Evreka> weird my reply didn't show up? [15:47] <Evreka> grrr [15:47] *** Evreka left #lounge [] [15:47] <JaneMarple9> dim witted, not much use...but he is needed in book 7 to live and give comic value biggrin [15:47] <J_DIZZLE32> true [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> Luna Lovegood, live or die? [15:47] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [15:47] <harryfreak359> live...i hope [15:47] <dumbleydore18> live live live [15:47] <antonin> voldy's just gotta watch out for that old memory charm [15:47] <Pellinore> Live [15:47] *** Narya has joined #lounge [15:47] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:47] <ProngsPatronus> Luna I think will live [15:47] <MirandaV> Luna=LIVE [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I have a bad feeling about htis [15:47] <Pleshette> Luna will live [15:47] <antonin> live!!!!!!!! [15:47] <DeathlyHallower> live. i hope [15:47] <mollywobbles23> So, who's living and who's dying? [15:47] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Oooh! I want hr to live! I love lun! [15:47] <mollywobbles23> Luna=live! [15:47] <futureweasley> Luna is a love word...she's got to live [15:47] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Narya! [15:47] <Rayla> live, i think [15:47] <antonin> she will definitely live [15:47] <Aislinn> Luna is going to live [15:47] <Narya> Hiya peeps! [15:47] <MirandaV> hi molly! [15:47] <ProngsPatronus> hey, Narya! [15:47] <Pleshette> Hi narya [15:47] <J_DIZZLE32> loony will live because shes gonna play a part in gitting the word out about voldy even more in DH [15:47] <JaneMarple9> luna........live live live live! [15:47] <dumbleydore18> Luna will bring humor to the last book while the twins are doing their shop [15:48] <JaneMarple9> she has too [15:48] <JaneMarple9> hey Nayra [15:48] <MirandaV> hi Narya [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> It bothers me because I think something bad might happen to Luna [15:48] <MrMcGonagall> Luna will live, I think. [15:48] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think I'm to attached to Luna as a character to give an unbiased opinion on this matter. [15:48] <mollywobbles23> I hope she lives. [15:48] <Narya> I think Luna might die, actually [15:48] <futureweasley> she's got to grow up and defy Jo by dating Neville! [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> same here Narya [15:48] <JaneMarple9> luna will be helping harry [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fw [15:48] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [15:48] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol future!! [15:48] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [15:48] <antonin> we don't know much about her yet, but we know she's complex, so jo's not going to introduce all of her stuff about her and the just kill her [15:48] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [15:48] <JaneMarple9> awww lovely idea Future smile [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> why do you think she will die? [15:48] <J_DIZZLE32> nice one future [15:48] <Narya> I hope she doesn't, but she's not afraid of death, so that's a distinct possibiilty [15:48] <JaneMarple9> I hope so! [15:48] <antonin> hopefully! [15:48] <MirandaV> really? why sooner & Narya? [15:48] <harryfreak359> lol [15:48] <antonin> hi nympheart [15:48] <nympheart> hi [15:48] <dumbleydore18> sooner do you think everyone going to die? [15:48] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good point, Narya [15:48] <Narya> unafraid of death [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> its a feeling I have [15:49] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol DD18 [15:49] <Pleshette> I'd like to see her go on and eventually take over the Quibbler [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> no. I hav predicted many more live than dies so far [15:49] <mollywobbles23> I'm not afraid of winning the lottery; it doesn't mean I will. [15:49] <JaneMarple9> then again she is a ravenclaw [15:49] <Narya> plus, she talks about her mum - and she knows she'll see her again, so she sounds as if she's prepared [15:49] <MirandaV> I'll ;cry: if she does...I like her [15:49] <antonin> hmm [15:49] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Me too, Pleshette. She would be perfect. [15:49] <JaneMarple9> if flitwit doesn't die - luna may [15:49] *** nympheart left #lounge [] [15:49] <JaneMarple9> she is very prepared nayra [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> Is there any possibility that Neville Longbottom may not survive? [15:49] <Pleshette> That's a good point Narya [15:49] <MirandaV> oops happy_crying [15:49] <antonin> odd feeling to have, luna's probably my favorite (living) character [15:49] <mollywobbles23> eek! [15:49] <MrMcGonagall> Narya, now you have me thinking Luna will die. [15:49] <antonin> sirius used to be [15:49] <Aislinn> Neville will be around to teach at the school [15:49] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good point, Jane. And JKR said that Ravenclaw will get its turn...that could put her in danger [15:49] <Narya> biggrin Mr McG [15:49] <dumbleydore18> Neville will live! [15:49] <ltbrave23> no i think neville will live [15:49] <JaneMarple9> perhaps she looks forward to joining her parents [15:49] <harryfreak359> there is, but I think that he will survive. [15:49] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> *sigh* [15:50] <MrMcGonagall> I'm pretty sure he will make it. [15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant even make myself think about this one [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> I am on the fence about neville [15:50] <Pleshette> I really want Neville to live, but I fear for him too [15:50] <Narya> I'm on the fence too [15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> its just that whole prophecy thing [15:50] <dumbleydore18> Neville will be the next DADA teacher [15:50] <JaneMarple9> awwwwwwww Neville sad sad sad [15:50] <MirandaV> Now I feel like she's going to die...it's a rather ill feeling [15:50] <Evreka> Who are we discussing? [15:50] <mollywobbles23> There is a possibility he will die, but I don't think he will. I think he's the classmate of Harry's that becomes a teacher. [15:50] <ltbrave23> he will show that he has been underestimated as a wizard [15:50] <futureweasley> I love Neville. And I will be truly heartbroken if he doesn't survive [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> exactly, Pleshette [15:50] <J_DIZZLE32> i think there is cause for some odd reason i feel it could be someway that neville takes out voldy and the real showdown becomes harry and snape [15:50] <Narya> I fear for him, but he might become Herbology teacher [15:50] <JaneMarple9> I want Neville to become the best herbology teacher ever [15:50] <antonin> neville=live!!! [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> I am hoping that will be so [15:50] <Pellinore> Neville is in serious danger... she may show him as what could have happened to Harry... LV might kill him right after he disintegrates Bella. [15:50] <antonin> neville [15:50] <Pleshette> That's what I hope for too narya [15:50] <MrMcGonagall> The DEs will underestimate Neville. [15:50] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ohh...actually I think yes. He is very very brave, and I think if he finds out about the prophecy and it's importance to him (and the murd erof his parents), the second war will become as personal to him as it is to Harry. [15:50] <Evreka> Oh, neville--- we'll see [15:50] <MirandaV> I think Neville will live...or I hope he will [15:51] * JaneMarple9 shares tissues with future! Neville is my fave character too! [15:51] <Narya> I don't think Neville has revenge in him, though - I've never believed that one [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville is a lot like Harry. That is part of why I am scared for him [15:51] <antonin> yes i agree jane!! [15:51] <Evreka> I'd rather see him killed that added to mum and dad at St Mungo's [15:51] <Aislinn> I think Neville will be defending the school, with other DA members, and hopefully he will get his chance to take out Bella, but in self defense [15:51] <antonin> no, he's got to kill bellatrix! [15:51] <JaneMarple9> he is in danger [15:51] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [15:51] <antonin> i hope not [15:51] <Pleshette> I could see him dying heroically but I hope he doesn't. Each book he shows a little more bravery [15:51] <JaneMarple9> but with every book he has become stronger [15:51] <Narya> Neville is not a killer [15:51] <futureweasley> he's grown into an amazing wizard, and he is stronger than even he ever knew. I hope that he will surprise the u-no-poo out of everyone and kick some serious DE tail in DH [15:51] <antonin> maybe he'll try and trevor will save neville!!! [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> if Jo turns Neville into a killer in the last book.... it will be the same as if he died [15:51] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Oh, yes antonin [15:51] <J_DIZZLE32> yes i agree sooner also why i have the theory about neville getting voldy instead of harry, because neville too has love in his heart [15:51] <mollywobbles23> Just out of curiosity, what characters have been done so far? I haven't missed Ron, have I? [15:51] <MirandaV> I agree Aislinn...I don't think he'll seek her out [15:51] <JaneMarple9> so I want him to kill Bella [15:51] <Pleshette> I agree Sooner [15:51] <nympheart> I don't think Neville will kill [15:52] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, future. [15:52] <JaneMarple9> or find a cure for his parents smile [15:52] <Narya> if Neville kills, I'm not finishing the book [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> no, we are savig the trio for last [15:52] <Ravenclaws_Heir> nope, you have not mollywobbles smile [15:52] <Narya> it's totally out of character [15:52] <Aislinn> Jo has said that the fact he was an almost ran for the prophecy does not mean there are hidden things there for him [15:52] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:52] <mollywobbles23> I thought so..Yay! [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> same here JNarya [15:52] <nympheart> I think he will get his revenge another way, but I fear he may die [15:52] <futureweasley> I know that Neville won't kill unless it's out of necessity...that's just not how he rolls [15:52] <Evreka> I don't think you'd keep that vow Narya... [15:52] <antonin> no, i meant he will live, ravenclaw [15:52] <JaneMarple9> oh Neville wouldn't be bothered killing Bella smile he;d love it [15:52] <antonin> i LOVE neville [15:52] <dumbleydore18> Neville will find his own and by that will become greater than he thinks he is...he just needs confudence and he can fight off anything...that it why he will be a good DADA teacher. He could teach other kids similar to him to come hrough onto their own to learn to fight or learn skills...like Lupin did with Neville [15:52] <Narya> I will, Evreka [15:52] <JaneMarple9> :hug: for Mollywobbles!! hug [15:52] <Pleshette> I will sob my eyes out if Neville dies. sad [15:52] <mollywobbles23> Neville is going to shock us all. [15:52] <harryfreak359> I would be pretty sad.. [15:52] <mollywobbles23> Aww, *hugs* [15:53] <JaneMarple9> not as much as me Pleshette! [15:53] <Narya> I'm quite definite about certain things - if JKR goes against type, then there's not a lot of point to her story and its ethics [15:53] <ProngsPatronus> so will I, but at least his granny will be proud of him then [15:53] <Aislinn> right, future - he would not aggressively kill, but it may happen during a battle [15:53] <CarpeDiem> I think Neville has a ton of potential that Jo is just wiating to show us. I look forward to see him leading a long a happy life [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> 2 thinigs with Neville that better not happen: He turns into a killer, or he dies [15:53] <ltbrave23> i agree sooner [15:53] <JaneMarple9> Whole box of giant mansized tissues on order! [15:53] <J_DIZZLE32> not leaving too many options for him are ya sooner lol [15:53] <MirandaV> I don't think he'd kill BellatriThat's a gp Narya...I agree [15:53] <Pleshette> Agreed sooner [15:53] <Evreka> I wonder how much we'll see of him? [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> Are any other friends of the trio or DA members at risk? What will happen to people like: Viktor Krum, Seamus Finnigan, Dean Thomas, Cho Chang, Lavender Brown, the Patil twins, and Susan Bones. Will they live or die? [15:53] <CarpeDiem> lol Jane...mansized? [15:53] <MirandaV> agreed sooner [15:53] <dumbleydore18> what do you mean sooner? he has to kill the bad....thats a killer.... [15:53] <mollywobbles23> I have already resigned myself to the fact that I am going to cry like crazy while reading DH. [15:53] <futureweasley> Pleshette, I'll give you my cell number, we can bawl together [15:54] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [15:54] <JaneMarple9> it wouldn't bother me if neville killed bella or voldie [15:54] <Evreka> But I hope we don't open the book and find that he died between boooks sad [15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I have to say that I would not be all that fussed if Zacharias Smith gets it [15:54] <Aislinn> I think some students will be killed [15:54] *** antonin has joined #lounge [15:54] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:54] <Narya> I think if the DA is part of the story, then some of them might die [15:54] <harryfreak359> Yes I think some of them are going to get it [15:54] <antonin> lag monster was attacking me again [15:54] <mollywobbles23> Some of them will die. It is inevitable. [15:54] <MirandaV> I hope we don't see Cho again..I couldn't takre that [15:54] <JaneMarple9> not bothered if zac smith died [15:54] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think Krum and Fleur are in danger, because of what DD said in GoF that forshadowed students from the different students uniting against voldemort [15:54] <JaneMarple9> perhaps for the best! [15:54] <Aislinn> I think the DA will be part of the story [15:54] <futureweasley> I'm most afraid for Seamus and Dean out of that grouping [15:54] <J_DIZZLE32> i think because of where hermoine kept in touch with krum he might just show back up and have a minor role in DH much to rons despise [15:54] <ProngsPatronus> I think some of the students will be killed--esp members of the DA [15:54] <nympheart> I think Cho is completelyout of the picture [15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> no dd18, he does not HAVE to kill. That is the whole purpose [15:54] <Aislinn> I think they will be defending the school [15:54] <Evreka> I wonder if some of the Boggarts from POA will come into play? [15:54] <Aislinn> which will put them at big risk [15:54] <MrMcGonagall> If they're in the DA, I think that definitely ups the chances that they will be toast. [15:54] <JaneMarple9> Cho - not bothered! She's be with Ced again [15:54] <futureweasley> any DADA member is going to fight, any Gryffindor is going to fight... [15:54] <Pellinore> Dunno... would expect some of them or at least one to get killed and it would have to be one we've connected with not Zack to make an impact. [15:55] <Evreka> for the Gryff's in Harry's year I mean [15:55] *** DeathlyHallower has quit [Bye] [15:55] <CarpeDiem> I think at least one from the former DA will die. It's too dangerous a role to not have consequences [15:55] <antonin> oh yeah, the DA are definitely going to fight together and be really strong and surprise everyone [15:55] <JaneMarple9> Susan bones - she is interesting [15:55] <Pellinore> Susan Bones would be interesting.. i think there's more to her then meets the eye. [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> poor Susan Bones [15:55] <Ravenclaws_Heir> And members of the DA, I think, are in more danger than most. They will be the most eager to join Harry in a fight [15:55] <nympheart> I agree Carpe [15:55] <ProngsPatronus> and Krum, I think, has been leading Durmstrang with the death of karkaroff--he will bring his students to Hogwarts [15:55] <Narya> Then again, why would the DA come back now, when they didn't help Harry before? Only the loyal ones answered the call [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> her whole family has had it rough [15:55] <dumbleydore18> neville cant sit around and do nothing, i dont see him doing that i see him fightuing [15:55] <mollywobbles23> I don't know how big of a part Krum will play. I think we'll see him on the horcrux hunt, with him helping the Trio with the Durmstrang library to find information on horcruxes. [15:55] <futureweasley> Susan...one word, suffering [15:55] <Pellinore> hehe, Jane ;o [15:55] <MrMcGonagall> True, Narya. I was just thinking that. [15:55] <Evreka> Yeah IF the DA wakes up as a group not sure it will [15:55] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good point, Prongs [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I have a feeling we are going to see a resurgence of the DA [15:55] <futureweasley> that will likely make her a little reckless [15:55] <JaneMarple9> she seems a background character I totally agree with Phleseyye [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> this time with some Slytherins in it [15:55] <Evreka> most will not be at Hogwat´rts anymore [15:55] <J_DIZZLE32> i agree sooner [15:55] <mollywobbles23> I hope so, Sooner [15:55] <Aislinn> right, dumbley - we saw that down in the DoM - Neville will engage in battle [15:55] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Krum and Ron will have to make amends, though [15:56] <mollywobbles23> on both counts. [15:56] <nympheart> Susan's kind of like Harry, she's been through enough, so I think she'll make it [15:56] <harryfreak359> yes they will [15:56] <ProngsPatronus> I think the DA will come back, because of DD's death--and Ginny will be the moving force in this [15:56] <SoonerGryffindor> yep [15:56] <antonin> yeah, i hope that some slytherins will redeem themselves [15:56] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, prongs [15:56] <Aislinn> yes, Prongs - I see Ginny as their leader [15:56] <JaneMarple9> perhaps because she appears in the films...she looks interesting [15:56] <Pleshette> Yes Prongs, I think so [15:56] <mollywobbles23> yes, Prongs, exactly [15:56] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, I see a re-grouping, which means some of them are probably on the chopping block. [15:56] <Narya> if the DA has Ginny in it, I see it working - but not otherwise [15:56] <SoonerGryffindor> I really like Ernie though. I hope nothing happens to him [15:56] <MirandaV> yes prongs [15:56] <JaneMarple9> the film always seems to concentrate on susan a little [15:56] <Evreka> That's a sweet idea, Prongs, I like it! [15:56] <mollywobbles23> me too, Sooner. [15:56] <Aislinn> I think some Slytherins will join them too, when they find the school under siege [15:56] <Narya> Ernie I think might get Head Boy, which gives him another role [15:56] <dumbleydore18> I see international students coming to help, because voldy essentially will affect other countries to....mass world war affair among the wizarding world [15:56] <JaneMarple9> ernie - he will live i hope [15:56] <antonin> yeah i like ernie too [15:56] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think some will have to, antonin, for the school to unite (please Draco, turn good!) [15:57] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, Ais [15:57] <antonin> he was so nice to harry in OotP [15:57] <Evreka> Jane in the first 2 she was the director's daughter [15:57] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> Moving on to some of the baddies. Is Bellatrix Lestrange going down? [15:57] <JaneMarple9> a lot of DA will die [15:57] <antonin> but will hogwarts reopen? [15:57] *** Onegirlband has joined #lounge [15:57] <MirandaV> that would unite the houses Aislinn too [15:57] <mollywobbles23> I think Draco will do something good, but with selfish motives. The good part will be secondary to him. [15:57] <nympheart> absolutely! [15:57] <Pleshette> Yes! [15:57] <JaneMarple9> oh was she Evreka - that would be it then [15:57] <ProngsPatronus> yes [15:57] <Evreka> I HOPE so! [15:57] <harryfreak359> Yes, [15:57] <Narya> I think Bellatrix will die, yes [15:57] <antonin> yes!!! [15:57] <Rayla> yes, i definately think she will [15:57] <mollywobbles23> she better [15:57] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Die Bella DIE!! [15:57] <antonin> bellatrix will go down!!! [15:57] <MirandaV> yes [15:57] <harryfreak359> She deserves it [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that insane freak show is gonna die [15:57] <J_DIZZLE32> oh yeah bellatrix is bye bye harry and neville got it in for her [15:57] <JaneMarple9> Bella = deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddd! [15:57] <mollywobbles23> unless, that Scribbulus essay proves true. [15:57] <antonin> neville will DESTROY HER!!!! [15:57] <Pellinore> SHe's Toast. [15:57] <MirandaV> lol sooner [15:57] <Aislinn> I think she needs to die [15:58] <JaneMarple9> :dance: [15:58] <Evreka> She is way to crazy to survive if LV goes down [15:58] <Pleshette> I'd like to see Lupin kill her [15:58] <MrMcGonagall> I do think Bella will die, but I'm still not sure how . . . [15:58] <ProngsPatronus> me, too, Aislinn [15:58] <JaneMarple9> yeah [15:58] <Narya> Again, Neville won't kill Bellatrix - that's not the way JKR has written him - nor Remus [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I really would like for her to be killed by Narcissa [15:58] <ProngsPatronus> she is one of the ones that need to die [15:58] <J_DIZZLE32> ahhh lupin thatd be a good one [15:58] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 [15:58] <mollywobbles23> If she dies, I want Voldy to kill her [15:58] <dumbleydore18> I love Bella...seriously....she has the awesome humor...but I see her dead. Neville killing her and smashing her to bits [15:58] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:58] <MirandaV> That would be awesome Sooner [15:58] <Pleshette> Why not Remus Narya? just curious [15:58] <nympheart> Interesting, sooner [15:58] <Evreka> I don't care how she dies as long as she does [15:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think Neville will try to kill her, but like draco he won't be able to murder. Then someone else will step in and do it for him...I hope! [15:58] <JaneMarple9> oooo Narcissa kill Bella....I like it biggrin [15:58] <Aislinn> I don't we will see her suffer a death through Karmic retribution, Narya [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it is only fitting that she is killed by a "bad guy" [15:58] <J_DIZZLE32> iono narya what if neville was put in a corner and had to kill her? [15:58] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [15:58] <Pellinore> She's going to hear a Mandrake Plant up close.... Neville put that away! (oh right sorry) [15:58] <Narya> Because he's not a killer, Pleshette [15:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ooh, me too Jane! [15:58] <Narya> and he doesn't seek vengeance [15:58] *** Shard has quit [Bye] [15:59] <Evreka> I'd love that Sooner [15:59] <Narya> neither does Neville [15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville is not a killer [15:59] <Aislinn> and it may involve Neville, but not as an offensive forward act [15:59] <mollywobbles23> Narcissa kill Bella? I can see her doing it to protect Draco. [15:59] <antonin> everyone agrees that bellatrix is going to go down in deathly hallows [15:59] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps Snape will do it--it may free him from the Unbreakable Vow [15:59] <JaneMarple9> I think Neville will finish her off though [15:59] <nympheart> lol pellinore [15:59] <MrMcGonagall> I think it would be poetic justice for LV to kill Bella for something she does or fails to do. [15:59] <mollywobbles23> I almost feel sorry for Narcissa. Almost. [15:59] <JaneMarple9> justice for his parents [15:59] <Ravenclaws_Heir> exactly, mollywobbles [15:59] <Aislinn> more of a protective or self-defensive one [15:59] <Pleshette> I could see Lupin killing as a way of protecting someone else [15:59] <Narya> That I could see, Mr McG [15:59] <nympheart> me too molly [15:59] <mollywobbles23> I think it's Makani's influence. [15:59] <harryfreak359> i agree Mr M [15:59] *** NiGHTS has joined #lounge [15:59] <antonin> but neville's got to! [15:59] <Narya> Remus might fight to protect, but he would only kill as a very last resort [15:59] <nympheart> hi nights [15:59] <Pleshette> I don't want to see Neville finish her off though [15:59] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I would love that, Mr.M but I can't see it happening [15:59] <Narya> if there was no other way out [15:59] <NiGHTS> Yea !!! Been a while since I've been in [15:59] <JaneMarple9> voldie kill bella - nah can't see it [15:59] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi nights! [15:59] <Pleshette> Yes I agree Narya [15:59] <NiGHTS> Hi everyone, hope you're all well [15:59] <Aislinn> and that's true for Neville as well, Narya [15:59] <Narya> LV might just finish off Bellatrix [16:00] <MirandaV> hi nights [16:00] <Narya> yes Aislinn [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> Is Peter Pettigrew a goner? How might he die? [16:00] <Ravenclaws_Heir> We're talking about Bella, live or die [16:00] <mollywobbles23> I do want Neville to fight Bellatrix and manage to do enough damage to her that he can escape. [16:00] <antonin> neville HAS to be the one to take out bella [16:00] <dumbleydore18> okay sooner I see what you mean by what other people have been saying coming Draco to Neville and how Draco couldn't kill, now I see what you are coming from...by this I agree with you [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> Peter, I think, will die [16:00] <mollywobbles23> Wormtail's going down. [16:00] <antonin> she's in for it [16:00] <Pleshette> That's interesting..I could see LV turn on her in an instant [16:00] <Aislinn> Peter will probably die [16:00] <Narya> Neville doesn't have that in him, antonin [16:00] <futureweasley> I think the idea that Peter will die for Harry is...delusional [16:00] <MrMcGonagall> I think he will repay his life debt and it will cost him his life. [16:00] <JaneMarple9> oh Pleshette it would be perfect justice though - killing the person who tortured his parents [16:00] <JaneMarple9> Peter - dead! [16:00] <Narya> Peter - on the fence about him - but coming round to the view that he will die [16:00] <Aislinn> and I could see him being done in by the side he turned to for protection [16:00] <Evreka> I certainly hope he dies protecting Harry!!! [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> me, too, peshette [16:00] <dumbleydore18> Peter will die saving harry from a curse....he has a life debt to pay [16:00] <Rayla> die i think [16:00] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Yes, Wormtail is dead meat. He has a live debt to Harry that needs to b e paid. [16:00] <Evreka> Me too Aislinn [16:00] <NiGHTS> Peter Pettigrew is like a star fleet officer in a red uniform ... you just "know" he's going to kop it [16:00] <Pleshette> No Jane..I don't think so [16:00] <nympheart> I think peter will die trying, but won't succeed [16:01] <MirandaV> I hope PP dies...I agree fw, I think whatever help PP gives Harry will be inadvertant [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Peter will die, but I think that it will be becuse of something accidental. And yes, he will fulfill his life debt [16:01] <JaneMarple9> But he will possibly do something for harry before he dead [16:01] <antonin> think peter will die too [16:01] <Narya> I think Peter fulfils his debt - selflessly for once [16:01] <mollywobbles23> I think Peter will die avoiding his life debt. He's a traitor, through and through. He's a true rat. [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont see him as becoming all noble [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> doesn't mean he will pay with his life--but I see him dying as a gryffindor at last [16:01] <mollywobbles23> But I'm not biased. [16:01] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [16:01] <Narya> I do too, PP [16:01] <JaneMarple9> totally agree with dumbley [16:01] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I would like to think that he will have a moment of bravery and suddenly do something willingly to redeem himself. But I think that the only way he will end up helping Harry is through his life debt, which will kill him. [16:01] <MirandaV> me either sooner [16:01] <Pleshette> Peter will die yes [16:01] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:01] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:01] *** Onegirlband has quit [Bye] [16:01] <Aislinn> it would be interesting to see him finally act as the Gryffindor he is supposed to be [16:01] <nympheart> honestly, i could see that too molly [16:01] <NiGHTS> I agree Jane: he'll help harry in some pay then he's done for ! [16:01] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [16:02] <Evreka> yes Aislinn [16:02] <JaneMarple9> yep Nights smile [16:02] *** Rayla left #lounge [] [16:02] <Narya> I think that's what JKR has in store for him, Aislinn [16:02] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, Aislinn, he's got to have that moment. [16:02] <futureweasley> what, from Peter's stellar past behavior, has pointed to the fact that he is anything but a yellow-bellied coward? I just don't see him abandoning all pretenses and going for the save [16:02] *** cbm has joined #lounge [16:02] <ProngsPatronus> it is in him [16:02] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I would love to see him do somethign cowardly, to protect himself at someone elses expense, and somehow die from it [16:02] <cbm> Hi everyone! [16:02] <Narya> There is his sorting, FW [16:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it will be a kind of Gollum thing [16:02] <harryfreak359> i think he will fullfill his life debt...but it will be doing something for his own good and then he will be finished off [16:02] <JaneMarple9> yes aislinn theres tat word - suposed to be! [16:02] <futureweasley> hi cbm [16:02] <MirandaV> I agree fw [16:02] <Narya> we need the answer to that one [16:02] <Pleshette> I'm not so sure how he'll fulfill his life debt though, I think it's more along the lines of info than sacrificing his life [16:02] <mollywobbles23> oh yes, Gollum. [16:02] <Evreka> lol Jane! [16:02] <JaneMarple9> People have tried to tell me that he is [16:02] <Narya> it's never been explained why he's in Gryffindor [16:02] <ltbrave23> i honestly don't think he's a gryffindor, but i think he will die nonetheless [16:02] <antonin> hi cbm [16:02] <dumbleydore18> peter was the secret keeper for the potters and he betrayed them to the very end...that it worse than death itself... [16:02] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [16:02] <Aislinn> me too pleshette [16:03] <Narya> He is a Gryffindor - that much we can be pretty sure of [16:03] <Evreka> ltbrave he is [16:03] <JaneMarple9> but really not confinced [16:03] <Greeneyes15> hey...can u see me? [16:03] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good point Narya, I hope he will do something to show us why he is [16:03] <nympheart> yup greeneyes [16:03] <antonin> the lag monster's got me...again! [16:03] <futureweasley> yes Green [16:03] <SoonerGryffindor> Peter shows us that not all Gryffindors are noble, brave and on the good side [16:03] <NiGHTS> I think the fact that he was in Gryffindor is very important: we've NEVER seen him be brave but he was placed in Gryffindor for a reason an I think we will see that reason in the final book [16:03] <Evreka> yes it is [16:03] <Pleshette> I see you greeneyes [16:03] <Aislinn> yes greeneyes [16:03] <MirandaV> i see you [16:03] <Narya> Agreed, NiGHTS [16:03] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I hope, nights [16:03] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [16:03] <futureweasley> I see dead people...they're everywhere [16:03] *** antonin has joined #lounge [16:03] <JaneMarple9> not confinced peter was in gryffindor until jo tells us so [16:03] <Ravenclaws_Heir> But I'm not sure that he could have such a drastic change of heart [16:03] <Greeneyes15> yayayayay!!!!!!!! u can! i've been on here for like a half an hour typing and i wasn't showing up! [16:03] <Narya> biggrin FW [16:03] <MirandaV> yes sooner..every house has some bad eggs [16:03] *** Ami has quit [Bye] [16:03] <ltbrave23> i agree jane [16:03] <harryfreak359> lol [16:03] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol future [16:03] <cbm> Facing down sirius can probably seen as brave, though at the same time cowardly for what he did next [16:04] <Evreka> She has [16:04] <NiGHTS> you should try my class, tomorrow morning, future ... [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> Will any of the Malfoys die? How might it happen? [16:04] <MirandaV> lol future [16:04] <JaneMarple9> biggrin as long as they are bad people Future biggrin [16:04] <mollywobbles23> My brother-in-law thinks that the knife that was used to get Harry's blood in GOF in the graveyard later became a horcrux, not Nagini. Maybe Peter knows. [16:04] <nympheart> I think Lucius will die [16:04] <antonin> yeah [16:04] <Aislinn> I think Draco may not make it [16:04] <Pleshette> I think Narcissa will die [16:04] <JaneMarple9> oh yes - lucius is a goner [16:04] <Narya> I think Draco might die [16:04] <MrMcGonagall> Hmmm, I don't see the Malfoy coming out of this unscathed. [16:04] <antonin> i think narcissa will die too [16:04] <Greeneyes15> i think that Lucius will [16:04] <Evreka> I don't know, but I guess Draco is most at risk [16:04] <mollywobbles23> Narcissa will die, Lucius will escape, and Draco...I don't know about him. [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Lucius and Narcissa are goners [16:04] <Narya> Lucius - if he keeps out of LV's way - will be OK [16:04] <harryfreak359> Lucius is definitely going [16:04] <Aislinn> Lucius is safe in Azkaban right now [16:04] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hmmm...I'm not sure. I think Draco will live... [16:04] <NiGHTS> Lucius and Narcissa may go, leave Draco in Harry's shoes ... [16:04] <JaneMarple9> narcissa, not at all sure [16:04] <Greeneyes15> and maybe Draco [16:04] <antonin> i dunno, but i think they might all die, the malfoys [16:04] <Aislinn> he would have to be broken out first [16:04] <ProngsPatronus> I think Draco will die--andf that will push bothe Bella and Narcissa away from LV [16:04] <harryfreak359> and I think Narcissa might last longer...but she might be a goner too [16:04] <Aislinn> If he were, I could see him dying [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> and tht Draco is going to have know what it was like to be Harry [16:04] <JaneMarple9> but draco....very much on the fence [16:04] <Narya> Narcissa - not sure - I can see her surviving [16:05] <Ravenclaws_Heir> But , Aislinn, there will most likley be an Azkaban break [16:05] <antonin> narcissa and draco annoyed me so much in madam malkin's [16:05] <Aislinn> I don't see it pushing Bella away Prongs [16:05] <harryfreak359> Draco will make it to the end I think..but I think he will die as well [16:05] <NiGHTS> he'll at least have a taste ... [16:05] <futureweasley> if Draco defies his father, I think he's got a shot at living... [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> I think the best punishment for Draco would be for him to live and to live with nothing [16:05] <JaneMarple9> i want draco to come to the good side in some way [16:05] <JaneMarple9> smf [16:05] <J_DIZZLE32> i think draco is gon live but his parents arent gonna make it [16:05] <Aislinn> Narcissa - yes [16:05] <Narya> Draco has nowhere left to run - he's in very grave danger [16:05] <cbm> Draco is going to be in trouble soon and Snape will have to try to save him do to the vow [16:05] <MirandaV> I think at least Lucius....maybe Narcissa too...I think Draco lives to on if only to suffer [16:05] <Evreka> wouldn't work Sooner - he's an adult now [16:05] <MirandaV> I agree Sooner [16:05] <futureweasley> it will be Harry's mercy, and an extension of DD's mercy [16:05] <nympheart> me too Jane [16:05] <JaneMarple9> and help harry in a way [16:05] <Narya> He's made his choices - all bad ones [16:05] <dumbleydore18> Lucius will not die, Draco will not die, and Narcissa will not die. I think after what Draco had to do with DD, Lucius will see the error of his ways through his son. The Order will help all of them [16:05] <Narya> Good point, FW [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> I relaly hate the idea of Draco joining the order [16:05] <MrMcGonagall> I'm still wondering how LV will punish Narcisssa for circumventing his instructions. [16:05] <antonin> good point, evreka [16:05] <mollywobbles23> I think Lucius will get away from the final battle (Voldy will want his best DEs, even if they did mess up. He needs as many as possible). Lucius will be the ominous "there's still evil in the world to have balance" element at the end of the book. [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> or turning good [16:05] <ProngsPatronus> they will wind up at Grimmauld place [16:05] <Narya> Draco won't join the Order! [16:05] <NiGHTS> the way JKR said that "everyone" has a shot at redemption makes me think that Draco will survive (Snape too for that matter, but that's a whole other thread) [16:06] <Narya> neither will he be good - ever [16:06] <Aislinn> the Malfoys? [16:06] <J_DIZZLE32> i dont think lucious will ever change [16:06] <cbm> Lucius will never see the errors of his ways [16:06] <Pellinore> Lucius will probably die but Draco i think will live. Either Draco or Snape will end up the new Dark Lord. Or maybe Narcissa... no stronger opponent then the mother of the kid you killed. [16:06] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I hope, future. I would be so proud of Harry if he spared Draco. [16:06] <Pleshette> I don't think Draco will turn, he's in too deep now [16:06] <Greeneyes15> [16:06] <JaneMarple9> but nayra..ws the time to make the rightchoice smile [16:06] <antonin> yeah i agree cbm [16:06] <cbm> He tried to kill children and thought nothing of it. [16:06] <Narya> Too late for Draco, Jane [16:06] <Narya> he's a bully and a bigot [16:06] <Narya> JKR's words [16:06] <MirandaV> He's not going to turn good in the stricted sense, I don't think, a hatred like he has for Harry will never go away and he has too much pride [16:06] <Aislinn> I don't think they could go to Grimmauld place, Prongs - the secret is still hidden [16:06] <futureweasley> Narya, Draco did make one good choice, and it could prove to be the choice that saves his miserable life [16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Draco has been a complete jerk since day one. I would feel cheated if he were made out to be a good guy [16:06] <dumbleydore18> The Order will help them hide [16:06] <antonin> haha [16:06] <cbm> The only way draco will change is if VD wants him dead and he has to run from VD [16:06] <JaneMarple9> smile we'll see! [16:06] <Narya> When was this, Future? [16:06] <NiGHTS> I disagree; Draco will have his chance at redeeming himself ... whether he takes it is another matter [16:06] <ProngsPatronus> Snape knows it [16:06] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Well, I'm not saying he is ever going to be an agreeable person. But I don't think he is evil at heart. [16:06] <mollywobbles23> I think Draco will become a corrupt government official, nothing more. [16:07] <Evreka> good point fw [16:07] <nympheart> I think Draco's fear will help him see the right choice [16:07] <futureweasley> he decision not to kill DD [16:07] <mollywobbles23> if he survives. [16:07] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [16:07] <Aislinn> I don't think he chose, I think he stood there unable to make a choice, until he ran out of time [16:07] <ProngsPatronus> I don't think he will be good! [16:07] <Narya> That was cowardice [16:07] <antonin> lol [16:07] <NiGHTS> it's like that line, isn't it: not every bad person is a death eater [16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> but I think that Lucius is definitely going down [16:07] <Ravenclaws_Heir> How so, nymph? [16:07] <futureweasley> it was still a choice [16:07] <Greeneyes15> brb...i have to go change my sis's diper. bleh, gross i know! [16:07] <cbm> agreed Aislinn [16:07] <J_DIZZLE32> i dont know sooner creates a big surprise if he does turnout to be good, cause obviously if he was too evil he wouldve takin out DD [16:07] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> which should not make me sad, but it does [16:07] <Evreka> I agree sooner, I don't think he'll turn to be good [16:07] <Narya> not a choice, I disagree [16:07] <mollywobbles23> I don't think after the final battle it is going to be all sunshine and daisies, but the rat will still be yellow. (talk about THIPS) [16:07] <Narya> just cowardice - he knew he couldn't do it [16:07] <antonin> yeah i like that line a lot. sirius has some good ones [16:07] <ProngsPatronus> I think that a lot of the purebloods will die [16:07] <ltbrave23> no i think it he made a choice [16:07] <MrMcGonagall> I think Narcissa and Lucius are in for it, but Draco will live. [16:07] <J_DIZZLE32> thought it was a bit of foreshadowing myself [16:07] <futureweasley> kill or don't kill...there is no try [16:07] <nympheart> He's absolutely terrified at the moment, he can't possibly like the postion he's in, he'll want out [16:07] <antonin> but draco IS a death eater [16:07] <Evreka> not the way Jo reacts to people who likes him.. [16:07] <MirandaV> I agree Sooner...if it's like hey sorry I was such a prat, but now I'm going to be good and all is well I'd hate that [16:08] <futureweasley> he did not kill...and I am Yoda, evidently [16:08] <NiGHTS> lol@molly ... v good ! [16:08] <SoonerGryffindor> right Miranda [16:08] <Pellinore> hehe fw [16:08] <Narya> Draco is a coward [16:08] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [16:08] <Narya> always has been, will not change [16:08] <futureweasley> that's not the debate Narya [16:08] <dumbleydore18> lol future [16:08] <J_DIZZLE32> i dont know it never says that draco had the DE tatoo [16:08] <Pleshette> I don't think Draco had a choice about becoming a DE..it's in the family, he's next in line [16:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I keep remembering that if not for very fortunate circumstances, he would have killed 2 classmates [16:08] <Narya> then we agree to disagree, FW [16:08] <cbm> Draco found out the reality of being a DE did not match what he imagined it to be [16:08] <futureweasley> did he kill DD is what is on the table [16:08] <J_DIZZLE32> they just believed he did [16:08] <antonin> yeah you're right miranda [16:08] <Ravenclaws_Heir> My thoughts exactly, J_dizzle [16:08] <mollywobbles23> we don't know for sure if Draco has the Dark Mark. I think he does. [16:08] <Evreka> Draco is a Death Eater [16:08] <Narya> He was never going to kill him, and he knew it [16:08] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [16:09] <NiGHTS> remember JKR said that Harry was right in thinking that Draco would NOT have killed DD [16:09] <antonin> yeah it does, he showed it to pansy and zabini on the train, right? [16:09] <Evreka> and he was prepaired to kill others to get to Albus [16:09] <cbm> He may not have the mark, but he was following VDs orders [16:09] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I'm not sure if he knew it, Narya [16:09] <antonin> i mean the DE tatoo [16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> Surely some of the other Death Eaters will bite it, right? What will happen to Macnair, Avery, Crabbe, Goyle, Greyback, and others? [16:09] <Evreka> there's no excuse for that [16:09] <Narya> I'm sure he did [16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> Greyback better die!!!! [16:09] <JaneMarple9> all of them dead [16:09] <mollywobbles23> I want Remus to kill Greyback. [16:09] <nympheart> Greyback is dead [16:09] <ltbrave23> oh i hope greyback gets it [16:09] <Evreka> Hopefully they are killed [16:09] <NiGHTS> But remember he was doing it on threat of his and his parent's lives [16:09] <JaneMarple9> or in azkaban [16:09] <Aislinn> Some of them will go down, but the good side tries very hard not to kill [16:09] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hmmm, I want Greyback to go. Revenge for Lupin! [16:09] <Evreka> greyback Must die [16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> Honestly, I could care less about Crabbe and Goyle senior [16:09] <Aislinn> Greyback does need to die, yes [16:09] <MirandaV> Yes, and he didn't care who he killed to get to DD...and do you think he would have had such a dilima if one of those items had actually reached DD and killed him...no, I just think he didn't have the guts to kill him face to face...if he didn't see it, he didn't do it, but in the flesh it's a little harder [16:09] <Narya> I think the DEs will go, but I don't want any of the Order members to kill them in revenge [16:09] <harryfreak359> I hope most of them will be killed, but I think some will manage to get through.. [16:09] <antonin> yes greyback is going down!!!! [16:09] <J_DIZZLE32> greybacks gotta go, hes crazy killin and biting little kids [16:09] <JaneMarple9> perfect - remus or bill to kill greyback! [16:09] <futureweasley> I'd like that TKO for Greybeck to come from a Bill/Lupin combo [16:09] <MrMcGonagall> I really don't think too many baddies will die, only because that's not how the guys in white roll. They tend to capture when possible, not kill. [16:09] <Narya> that is not the story I've been reading all these years [16:10] <antonin> greyback is foul [16:10] <antonin> vile [16:10] <nympheart> I think most of them will end up in Azkaban except Bella, Peter, Greyback, and Draco [16:10] <mollywobbles23> The others...I don't care whether they live or die as long as they lose. [16:10] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M [16:10] <antonin> cruel [16:10] <cbm> Greyback dead, most of the others in azkaban, I think [16:10] <dumbleydore18> the werewolves will turn theie backs on greyback! Lupin will convince them and the others will die to as they are minor characters [16:10] <Pleshette> Die, die, die, die, and die [16:10] <Pleshette> Die, die, die die and die [16:10] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:10] <Aislinn> I don't think that would happen, Narya, I think it would be a matter of kill or be killed [16:10] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, Aislinn. [16:10] <antonin> he's brutal [16:10] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [16:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that if many baddies die it will be because they do it to themselves [16:10] <Narya> Good point, Aislinn [16:10] <SoonerGryffindor> like at the end of HBP [16:10] <JaneMarple9> Greyback - die die die die die die die die die and die a little more! [16:10] <Narya> I dislike the emphasis on revenge, though [16:10] <Ravenclaws_Heir> But there will probably be an azkaban break, cbm [16:10] <NiGHTS> Greyback has absolutely NO chance of surviving but I think we will have more suffering wrought from his doings before he gets his just deserts [16:10] <Aislinn> I think Jo does too [16:10] <antonin> but what allegiance do the dementors have? [16:10] <MrMcGonagall> Me too, Narya. [16:10] <Narya> I'm sure she does [16:10] <mollywobbles23> Well, Greyback also targets innocent children still. He needs to die. [16:10] <Pleshette> Die, die, die, die and die [16:10] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:10] <ltbrave23> i agree nights [16:10] <Evreka> I think some baddies will die due to internal squabble [16:11] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [16:11] <JaneMarple9> to voldemort [16:11] <cbm> We thought there would be a break in HBP and it did not happen there, so I do not know [16:11] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> it would be really cool is all of the giants they had assmbled decided to have a DE snack.. I could live with that [16:11] <Ravenclaws_Heir> As do I, Nraya. But it is in the human nature of amyn ,including ORder members. And Harry, if you recall. [16:11] <antonin> i'm with you jane [16:11] <MrMcGonagall> I think so too, Evreka. [16:11] <Greeneyes15> hey Pleshette! [16:11] <ProngsPatronus> greyback gone [16:11] <Evreka> lol Sooner! [16:11] <JaneMarple9> they have always been on voldies side [16:11] <Narya> I don't think it is, Ravenclaw [16:11] <mollywobbles23> Lupin needs to get him, not just for revenge, but to protect kids like he once was. [16:11] <Narya> but I digress [16:11] <Ravenclaws_Heir> wow, sorry I can't type [16:11] <futureweasley> brb [16:11] <dumbleydore18> the denetor alleigience would be that they would get hopeless souls to "kiss" [16:11] <JaneMarple9> smile nice thought sooner! [16:11] <NiGHTS> it's interestign but for all that we know the giants are fairly important we've seen very little of them [16:11] <NiGHTS> interesting* [16:11] <Narya> Remus doesn't need to "get him" - there is that vengeance again, which is not in his nature [16:12] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [16:12] <JaneMarple9> lupin or bill has to kill greyback [16:12] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [16:12] <Aislinn> hi debbie [16:12] <JaneMarple9> hi debbie! [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> Severus Snape has been playing a dangerous game since even before Voldemort's 1st defeat. Is there any chance he will live through the end of "Voldie War 2"? [16:12] <Pleshette> Greyback toast! [16:12] <Pleshette> Hi Debbie [16:12] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:12] <NiGHTS> personally, I think it might be Fleur who kills Greyback ! [16:12] <Narya> Can someone explain why Remus "has" to do that? [16:12] <ltbrave23> i honestly just want greyback to get it [16:12] <Greeneyes15> i hope greyback gets blown to bits! [16:12] <DumbleDebbie> hiya smile [16:12] <nympheart> I think there is no chance Snape is getting out alive [16:12] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I'm not sure if Remus will be the one to Kill Greyback. I do agree with you that REmus is not all that vengful of a person. [16:12] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [16:12] *** antonin has joined #lounge [16:12] <cbm> He is toast no matter what his side [16:12] <mollywobbles23> I don't think Lupin will kill Greyback with the latter's back turned. I think it will be a matter of Lupin dying or Greyback dying. [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> Snape is going down [16:12] <MirandaV> I don't think we will see a whole lot of killing for revenge...I think it will be about there not being a choice...I don't think vengence is in the nature of many of the good characters....maybe Sirius had it [16:12] <NiGHTS> Hiya Debbie [16:12] <ltbrave23> doesn't have to be lupin [16:12] <Evreka> I hope NOT but I think he will [16:12] <mollywobbles23> It will be in the heat of battle. [16:12] * JaneMarple9 looks at dumbley on the fence [16:12] <Greeneyes15> i think snape it a gonner [16:12] <Pellinore> Didn't JkR say there's a difference between Mercy and Stupidity? kinda indicating that she's not a pacifist? its also very disengenous to think no good person ever kills.. Those that aren't willing to defend their country loose it. [16:12] <mollywobbles23> This is war. [16:12] <antonin> yeah, snape is [16:12] <DumbleDebbie> I think Snape might live, and live with the knowldege that his bacon was saved by Harry [16:12] <Narya> I don't know about Snape - again, on the fence about him [16:12] <MirandaV> I really would like to think that the "good" side can find other ways than death to punish the DEs [16:13] <MrMcGonagall> I know what side he's on, but I can't decide if he will live or die. If I had to guess, I'd say die. [16:13] <dumbleydore18> *sits on own fence post about Snape inviting Jane* I have no thoughts on Snape and therefore will wait for DH [16:13] <Aislinn> I think snape is going to live, unless he is unredeemably bad. [16:13] <JaneMarple9> Not at all sure smile He might die [16:13] <ltbrave23> exactly it is a war there will be killing on both sides [16:13] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with cbm, no matter what side he is on, he is going to die [16:13] <mollywobbles23> I think Snape will die. [16:13] <Greeneyes15> i agree too sooner This post has been edited by Aislinn: Feb 18 2007, 05:40 PM |
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[16:13] <NiGHTS> I think Snape might "just" be crafty enough to survive but then maybe his ultimate redemption requires the ultimate secrifice
[16:13] <antonin> he's in it for himself, i think, but because of that he will be hated by both sides. how could he escape that? [16:13] <SoonerGryffindor> its just a matter of "how" [16:13] <ltbrave23> i just can't see snape surviving, even though i want him to [16:13] <Narya> If I had to guess, I'd say Snape will live - it's too easy to have him die [16:13] <Greeneyes15> poor snapey is on his deathbed [16:13] <Aislinn> yes Narya [16:13] <ProngsPatronus> I think snape may live on to become harry's bete noir [16:13] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Snape...I think it depends on his loyalty. If he is good, I am almost sure he will sacrifice himslef for Harry. If not...then it would be horrible if he lived but I can see JKR torturing us like that. [16:13] <Pleshette> I agree Sooner [16:13] <Pleshette> Not sure about Snape either but I think he will die [16:13] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:13] <SoonerGryffindor> this is a good thought Narya [16:13] <MirandaV> Oh, I think the "good" side will definitely kill...but I don't think it will be willynilly [16:13] <J_DIZZLE32> Snape gonna go at the hands of harry like it or not, i think Jo showd us that theyd have their go again at the end of HBP there was more put into the You need to learn to keep your mouth shut moment then their should have been [16:13] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [16:13] <nympheart> why, Aislinn? Good guys die too [16:14] <JaneMarple9> but if he lives....could be really really interesting [16:14] <Narya> :D Sooner [16:14] <MirandaV> I agree with Sooner and cbm about Snape [16:14] <Evreka> Jo has said that she thinks people will know how very wrong it is to kill someone after reading HP - but how then can the good guys win??? [16:14] <antonin> i've always disliked snape, but the character of snape is awesome [16:14] <Narya> *Narya wonders if peace has broken out [16:14] <Aislinn> Harry will not be killing Snape [16:14] <dumbleydore18> I think Snape is neither good neither bad...as a Slytherin he is in it for himself and the slytherin greed...he is playing his own game I think [16:14] <JaneMarple9> I can't see harry killing snape [16:14] <SoonerGryffindor> it would be more interestng to have him have to survive and live with himself [16:14] <Narya> It would, I agree [16:14] <cbm> I think snape will die in the final battle at the hands of a DE, and I think snape is bad [16:14] <JaneMarple9> snape has taught harry a lot [16:14] <NiGHTS> remember JKR said that the person who asked the Qn about Snape having a redemption theme was right on the nail ... he has to redeem himself but will that cost him his life [16:14] <antonin> no, not harry [16:14] <nympheart> I can see LV killing Snape. [16:14] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think he enjoys living all that much to be honest [16:14] <Greeneyes15> i can't see harry killing anybody [16:14] <JaneMarple9> harry hates snape [16:14] <Aislinn> not for that reason, nymph - if he is really, really bad, he will need to be stopped [16:14] <MirandaV> I couldn't live with him so I don't know how he can live with himslef Sooner...lol [16:14] <Narya> LV might kill Snape, but definitely not Harry [16:14] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, Jane, because I hope that somehow Harry will get through this war without actually killing anyone. [16:14] <JaneMarple9> ooooo nmyphheart smile Excellent idea [16:15] <futureweasley> Live or die...Snape has never really lived, so in death, his existence would be an approvement [16:15] <Narya> I don't think Snape is irredeemably bad, but he's never going to be good either [16:15] <SoonerGryffindor> really though, I think that Snape will deliver a really bad blow to LV and that he will die for it [16:15] <futureweasley> *improvement [16:15] <Greeneyes15> i agree Ravenclaws [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> I think Voldy's going to try to kill Snape and Harry's going to interfere [16:15] <Pleshette> Can you see me? [16:15] <NiGHTS> ***Bets £10 that Harry spots Snape at Godric's Hollow graveyard*** [16:15] <NiGHTS> lol [16:15] <J_DIZZLE32> i like that thought sooner [16:15] <nympheart> yes Pleshette [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> I can Pleshette [16:15] <mollywobbles23> I hope Snape dies doing something good. [16:15] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Pleshette [16:15] <Pleshette> thanks [16:15] <JaneMarple9> Voldie kills snape and then accidnently kills himself w00t2 [16:15] <DumbleDebbie> lol FW [16:15] <Greeneyes15> yep Pleshette [16:15] <JaneMarple9> i see you pleshette [16:15] <Pleshette> Snape won't survive I don't think [16:15] <ltbrave23> no i would feel cheated if lv killed himself [16:15] <SoonerGryffindor> I seriously think that Harry will be tested with this. [16:15] <ProngsPatronus> I think Snape wants to be rid of all his masters [16:15] <cbm> Right now Snape is still loyal to his unbreakable vow as all parts of it have not been played out and it was upen ended [16:15] <Narya> I don't think so, Sooner [16:16] <Pleshette> Me too Prongs [16:16] <antonin> haha, er, maybe a little far fetched, jane? ;) [16:16] *** Evreka has quit [Bye] [16:16] <NiGHTS> I think there might be an element of that too, prongs [16:16] <Narya> Harry has no desire to kill Snape [16:16] <dumbleydore18> Debbie I love that idea about Harry interfereing Voldy vs Snpe...oooo good thought! [16:16] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ol jane [16:16] <Aislinn> I think so too Prongs [16:16] *** MrMcGonagall has quit [Bye] [16:16] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [16:16] <MirandaV> I agree Prongs [16:16] <JaneMarple9> smile perhaps antonin but we'll see on July 21st biggrin [16:16] <ltbrave23> harry as no desire to kill snape???? i actually thought it was just the opposite [16:16] <ProngsPatronus> to that end, he will help Harry get rid of LV [16:16] <Pleshette> I think he's in too deep and is trying to find a way to survive all this [16:16] <Pellinore> bah.... Harry has EVERY desire to kill snape. we'll see if he follows through or gets talked out of it. [16:16] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree with sooner. Harry will wnat to kill snape, and it will be a test of his character if he is able to resist and do the right thing. [16:16] <cbm> I think that Harry would let VD vs. Snape go to the end [16:17] <Narya> Harry knows where his priorities area [16:17] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks RH [16:17] <nympheart> Harry clearly hates Snape at the end of HBP, maybe enough to kill, but I don't think Harry will get that chance [16:17] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [16:17] <SoonerGryffindor> that is exactly my thought [16:17] <Aislinn> I think he does right now have that desire, Narya, but I think it will change [16:17] <Narya> killing snape is not amongst them [16:17] <DumbleDebbie> wb Evreka [16:17] <NiGHTS> I wonder just "how" good old Snape really is ... is it all bluff and reputation or is he really that powerful/talented [16:17] <JaneMarple9> I could just see harry cheering on Voldie and Snape [16:17] <Narya> I think he lost it when DD died, Aislinn [16:17] <Greeneyes15> guys, i g2g cuz i need to go and lie down...not feeling to well today sad [16:17] <Evreka> sorry I got thrown out [16:17] <cbm> What could possibly change Harry's mind? [16:17] <DumbleDebbie> bye greeneyes [16:17] <Pleshette> Aw feel better Greeneyes [16:17] <cbm> feel better [16:17] <harryfreak359> bye greeneyes [16:17] <Narya> Grief, and priorities, cbm [16:17] <NiGHTS> Sorry to hear that, Greeneyes ! Take care ! [16:17] <nympheart> feel better greeneyeyes! [16:17] <J_DIZZLE32> lata [16:17] <Aislinn> his hatred of Snape is more personal and more deeply felt, and it isn't gone, even if it is not blazing as it did that night [16:18] <MirandaV> I think no matter what Harry desires in an instant he's true self is not a killer [16:18] <ProngsPatronus> the true reason DD trusted snape might do the trick [16:18] <antonin> bye everyone [16:18] <JaneMarple9> yeah "Kill him Kill him" yeah [16:18] <Narya> It's not gone, but there's no heat in it [16:18] <Ravenclaws_Heir> AW, feel better greeneyes! [16:18] <ltbrave23> i agree prongs [16:18] <mollywobbles23> yes, Prongs. [16:18] <Narya> I disagree, Jane [16:18] <MrMcGonagall> Jo did say the Snape-Harry grudge is every bit as personal (if not more so) than LV-Harry. [16:18] <DumbleDebbie> I wish I knew what that was Prongs [16:18] <antonin> i hope you feel better, greeneyes [16:18] <MirandaV> You can't fault someone for what they say or think in the heat of the moment if they don't actually follow through [16:18] <Greeneyes15> Bye guys! bye1 [16:18] <Pellinore> Snape has a big confessional / tell all coming in 7. will be intereting if he's trying to supplant LV or has a "Good reason" he killed DD. [16:18] <dumbleydore18> "keep him alive keep him alive" [16:18] *** Joyhawk2121 has joined #lounge [16:18] <Narya> It's personal, but not worth killing over [16:18] <DumbleDebbie> yes, Mr M it feels worse to me [16:18] <Aislinn> we saw him hang onto it ever since Sirius's death, Narya [16:18] <DumbleDebbie> it's been more direct [16:18] <MirandaV> feel better Grenneyes [16:18] <Narya> If DD taught him nothing else, he taught him that much [16:18] <J_DIZZLE32> he took an unbreakable vow it was either him or DD [16:18] <Aislinn> it may not be blazing hot, but it could be the icy grip of revenge [16:18] <Narya> well, we'll see, Aislinn [16:19] <Evreka> Are we still on Snape? [16:19] <JaneMarple9> bye greeneyes [16:19] <Greeneyes15> see yas [16:19] <ProngsPatronus> I don't think we will ever know if Snape is good or bad--I think JKR will leave that unresolved [16:19] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Narya, Haryr has an indeterminate kind of rage toward Snape, but he's not going to be out to kill him. [16:19] <Narya> Again, revenge - I disagree [16:19] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [16:19] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [16:19] <NiGHTS> I have the feeling that, like bk6, bk7 will reveal a lot of history that will be crucial in determining Snape's true loyalties [16:19] <Aislinn> I think it's one of the biggest things Harry has to deal with in the final book [16:19] <cbm> But I do not think that it would change Harry's mind, Harrys life went bad starting with Snape Hearing the Prophecy, would could go up against that? [16:19] <DumbleDebbie> hey carpe [16:19] <JaneMarple9> yep smile Everyone knows Snape is dead biggrin [16:19] <Narya> Harry has no revenge in him [16:19] <MrMcGonagall> I agree with that, Aislinn. [16:19] <Aislinn> annd he will succeed in dealing with it, but he hasn't done so yet [16:19] <ProngsPatronus> yes, Narya, Aislinn [16:19] <MirandaV> Goodness..I hope not Prongs [16:19] <Pleshette> That would be so cruel Prongs, lol [16:19] <Evreka> If she does that Prongs *I* will throw the book in the wall! [16:19] <Ravenclaws_Heir> hi carpe! [16:19] *** antonin left #lounge [] [16:19] <ProngsPatronus> but just like JKR, yes? [16:19] <ltbrave23> does harry have the motive and desire for revenge? yes. will he carrry it out? no [16:19] <Evreka> AND write to her!! [16:19] <SoonerGryffindor> Moving on to some more "lovely people" in Harry's life: What chance is there that all of the Dursleys will survive? [16:19] <Narya> very like JKR, Prongs [16:20] <DumbleDebbie> lol Ev [16:20] <mollywobbles23> very likely [16:20] <cbm> I think they will live [16:20] <nympheart> I think the Dursleys will live unhappily ever after [16:20] <NiGHTS> actually, Prongs, I honestly think you might be right there [16:20] <MrMcGonagall> I think they will survive. [16:20] <JaneMarple9> ooo not sure [16:20] <Pleshette> They'll survive [16:20] <futureweasley> 'cause Vernon had to did...na na na na naaa naaa [16:20] <Narya> I think the Dursleys will survive, but it will be a close call [16:20] <DumbleDebbie> I think there's a good chance they will [16:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it would be great if they survived [16:20] <futureweasley> *die [16:20] <ltbrave23> i agree narya [16:20] <Evreka> hmm... I won't cry if they die... [16:20] <J_DIZZLE32> yea because theyve had the same role in every book dont see really why itd change [16:20] <Ravenclaws_Heir> HMmm....I think dudley will survive because I really think he deserves a second chance. It is not his fault thathe was raised by the dursleys. [16:20] <ProngsPatronus> I think DD told them about Grimmauld pace for a reason [16:20] <SoonerGryffindor> cause they still have to be their miserable selves [16:20] <JaneMarple9> I can see Vernon having heart failure, if he met wizards biggrin [16:20] <Evreka> They might... [16:20] <Narya> Exactly, Sooner [16:21] <NiGHTS> I think they will have a good chance due to fact that it's well known how badly they've treated Harry and that there is no love lost [16:21] <MirandaV> I read a quote in a book once that reminds of the Dursley's....only good people die young whereas rotten people live on to torture others for ages [16:21] <JaneMarple9> or exploding in rage! [16:21] <Narya> and yes, PP, there is No 12 for a reason [16:21] <futureweasley> DD said it himself...death is not the worst fate a man can make [16:21] <Pleshette> Wouldn't it be a gas if Petunia pulled out a wand and fought? [16:21] <mollywobbles23> When I first started reading the books, I had this hope that Harry and the Dursleys would come to some sort of understanding. [16:21] <harryfreak359> I think that they will make it through [16:21] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Petunia, I think will relate some important information to Harry start of DH, and possibly die towards the end. [16:21] <mollywobbles23> At least Harry and Petunia. [16:21] <Narya> Petunia will not do magic - but she does have information for Harry, I bet [16:21] <JaneMarple9> But Petunia.....great idea Phelesette!! [16:21] <DumbleDebbie> again, it'd be great if they live knowing they owe their lives to Harry [16:21] <Evreka> She won't Pleshetee [16:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I really do hope though that they pay for their actions, just not with their lives [16:21] <Ravenclaws_Heir> JKR has siad that Petunia has never done, nor will ever do magic--Pleshette [16:21] <ProngsPatronus> I think that harry needas to be healed from their treatment before his final battle [16:21] <Pleshette> I know I know, it's not going to happen [16:21] <Evreka> confirmed from JO [16:21] <Aislinn> Harry will rescue them, and they will go to Grimmauld Place to be safe [16:21] <Pleshette> Just fun to think about [16:21] <JaneMarple9> And Dudley - on my fence again [16:21] <Narya> I think that's possible, Aislinn [16:21] <Evreka> agree Sooner [16:22] <dumbleydore18> dursleys will live...as sad as i think that to be the are nit all that bad compared to otheharry must deal with, he only sees them a month of the tear anyways [16:22] <NiGHTS> I think we're all waiting for a lot of resolution with the Dursleys but I'm not sure we will; may with Petunia ... can't see them being killed, nonetheless [16:22] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Very! [16:22] <MrMcGonagall> Living in hiding in Grimmauld Place indefinitely. I think that would be exquisite for the Dursleys. [16:22] <ProngsPatronus> they will have to depend upon his mercy, rather than their mercy to him [16:22] <JaneMarple9> oh Aislinn....I really really hope so!! [16:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that book 7 is going to mirror book 1. Harry will have to take the Dursleys in and protect them and they will be at his mercy [16:22] <MirandaV> Yes, I don't want it to be like every person whose ever wronged someone gets the ax...what's that teaching [16:22] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Ugg, the lags getting to me. [16:22] <Narya> Good one, Mr McG [16:22] <Aislinn> agreed, Mr M [16:22] <Pleshette> I'm not convinced they'll go to GP but it's a possibility [16:22] <futureweasley> in essence, though, Debbie...he owes them the same. It's a very fickle relationship...many lines that cross and enter uncomfortable territory [16:22] <cbm> But I do not think that Gimmauld is sage, but that is another discussion [16:22] <JaneMarple9> Agreed McGonagall! [16:22] <Narya> with Mrs Black's portrait [16:22] <DumbleDebbie> Petunia vs Mr.s Black LOL [16:22] <ProngsPatronus> lol--Sooner [16:22] <cbm> safe [16:22] <SoonerGryffindor> mind meld Prongs [16:22] <JaneMarple9> Just imagine Mistress Black's reaction w00t2 biggrin [16:22] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol DD [16:22] <NiGHTS> It's interesting that we "will" find out what Dudley saw during the dementor attack ... what his worst moment was [16:23] <JaneMarple9> oh debbie great scene! [16:23] *** leakylurker has joined #lounge [16:23] <Pleshette> Oh, right NiGHTs [16:23] <mollywobbles23> I can just see Petunia losing her mind as she tried to make Grimmauld Place spotlessly clean. [16:23] <ProngsPatronus> yes--and that might be a turning point for him [16:23] <JaneMarple9> oh yes NiGHTS [16:23] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Hi LeakyLurker! [16:23] <harryfreak359> hehehee [16:23] <Narya> Imagine Petunia having to defer to Harry - or Vernon having to defer, for that matter ... [16:23] <ltbrave23> i agree that is very interesting nights [16:23] <Pleshette> Taking on the doxies! [16:23] <DumbleDebbie> that'll be interesting nights [16:23] <MirandaV> I can't wait to find out that nights [16:23] <mollywobbles23> lol [16:23] <nympheart> well, at least she'll do a better job than Kreacher, molly [16:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Percy Weasley - too big of a git to let live? Or will he survive and make amends with his family? [16:23] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol mollywobbles! [16:23] *** DumbleDebbie has quit [Bye] [16:23] <JaneMarple9> I want to know wants dudders worse memory is smile [16:23] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [16:23] <ProngsPatronus> they will never be pleasant people, but they will be chastened in some way [16:23] <NiGHTS> prob losing his 2nd bedroom to Harry [16:23] <nympheart> I think he'll live [16:23] <NiGHTS> lol [16:23] <Narya> I think Percy will definitely survive [16:23] * futureweasley reluctantly loves Percy [16:23] <Evreka> hmm good question [16:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I really hope he lives [16:23] <ltbrave23> i also think he will lie [16:23] <ltbrave23> live [16:23] <JaneMarple9> hmmmm not at all sure [16:23] <DumbleDebbie> I hope Percy sees the light, and I do hope he lives [16:23] *** bubblehead has joined #lounge [16:24] <MirandaV> /reconnect [16:24] <DumbleDebbie> hi bubble [16:24] <MrMcGonagall> That relationship needs to be healed, and I think it will be in the end. I think Percy will live uncomfortably ever after. [16:24] <SoonerGryffindor> but I hope that he has to lose everything in this next book [16:24] <Narya> Percy will come to his senses before it's too late [16:24] <Pleshette> He will live and come back to the Weasleys and become the next MoM (my own personal prediction) [16:24] <cbm> I think he will die due to his desire for power [16:24] <mollywobbles23> I think he'll make ammends. Just don't know if he'll live or die. [16:24] <dumbleydore18> percy will be redeemed he will see the errors of his ways [16:24] <NiGHTS> I think Percy might get currupted to the dark side if he really thinks that every other door is closed to him [16:24] <Narya> oh no, Sooner! why? [16:24] <J_DIZZLE32> for some reason i think percys gonna forgive and his family will forget [16:24] <Aislinn> good thought, Mr M [16:24] <JaneMarple9> if any of the weasleys die....rather have it as percy [16:24] <ProngsPatronus> I think Percy will turn out to be a staunch defender against the DE's [16:24] *** MirandaV has quit [Bye] [16:24] *** MirandaV has joined #lounge [16:24] <Evreka> he might have to pay for his idiocy with his life but I somehow doubt it - only way for amends I think, is if someone in the family dies [16:24] <Narya> I agree, PP [16:24] <bubblehead> hey. what are we talking about today [16:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that he needs to realize what is important [16:24] <Aislinn> He didn't start that way in HBP, Prongs [16:24] <JaneMarple9> percy will redeem himself [16:24] <MrMcGonagall> Mega live or die, bubblehead. [16:24] <Narya> I agree, but that's too harsh [16:24] <Pleshette> I think he'll learn the hard way and be a very effective leader [16:24] <J_DIZZLE32> well i gotta get some food i'll be sure to join in next time, had fun everybody. Later [16:24] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, me too Evreka, I'm thinking that'll be Molly sad [16:24] <JaneMarple9> and join the weasley family [16:24] <NiGHTS> If there's one person I could see being tempted by power/prestige, it's Percy [16:25] <ProngsPatronus> no--but war has a way of making some home truths very clear [16:25] <futureweasley> Percy will redeem himself, but I don't think that will save him [16:25] <Evreka> yeah sad [16:25] *** J_DIZZLE32 has quit [Bye] [16:25] <cbm> VD is about Power and Percy was reading "Prefects who Gained Power", I think that was a very very bad omen [16:25] <mollywobbles23> I fear sometimes that the only way Percy will come back to the family is if something horrible happens to Molly. [16:25] <JaneMarple9> they'd be reunited at tje weddomg [16:25] <Pleshette> I agree Prongs [16:25] <MirandaV> the lag was killing me...I hope Percy lives to see the rest of his family become successful, he thinks he can only be successful by cutting them off and he needs to see the error of his ways [16:25] <JaneMarple9> shush Molly sad [16:25] <CarpeDiem> Let's not talk about that, molly smile [16:25] <Narya> I think that Bill might just be the bridge to Percy coming back [16:25] <dumbleydore18> Molly will live!!! [16:25] <Aislinn> I would have believed that, if he had returned with Arthur's attack, or with Bill's [16:25] <MrMcGonagall> You could be right, Narya. [16:25] <Pleshette> Interesting Narya..that could be [16:25] <Aislinn> We haven't seen him bend yet, so I'm still on the fence about Percy [16:25] <ltbrave23> exactly aislinn [16:25] <SoonerGryffindor> speaking of Bill.... [16:25] * JaneMarple9 not listening to mollywobbles smile [16:25] <SoonerGryffindor> Bill and Fleur are just starting their lives together. Bill and his brother Charlie also have special knowledge and talents that could help Harry in Book 7. Will these three live or will any of them die while trying to help with the war? [16:26] <Narya> I think he'll bend now [16:26] <mollywobbles23> I know, I know. It doesn't help that I'm reading a fanfiction story in which she does not. Picks up most of the way through the hunt. [16:26] *** leakylurker has quit [Bye] [16:26] <cbm> I guess I am the only one who thinks there is not redemption for Percy [16:26] <DumbleDebbie> live [16:26] <ltbrave23> i think they will live [16:26] <Pleshette> We''ve seen flashes of concern with Percy, particularly with ron [16:26] <NiGHTS> Maybe he'll be fatally sufficated by the world's largest Bat Bogey Hex [16:26] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Sorry, I vanished for a minute. Are we still on snape or have we moved on? [16:26] <Aislinn> that's a lot to not bend for [16:26] <JaneMarple9> bill will live [16:26] <Narya> I think Charlie might be in danger [16:26] <nympheart> Fleur and Bill will live, I think Charlie might end up dead [16:26] <bubblehead> Oh I want Bill and Charlie to live [16:26] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ah, nevermind [16:26] <futureweasley> no cbm, I understand that feeling [16:26] <JaneMarple9> fleur might die [16:26] <SoonerGryffindor> we are on the Weasleys now [16:26] <bubblehead> but I think Charlie might die [16:26] <mollywobbles23> Fleur will die protecting Bill. [16:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think they will live. Fleur's too young to be a widow. [16:26] <cbm> I hope they leve [16:26] <ProngsPatronus> I think they are both in terrible danger [16:26] <Evreka> I think some Weasleys will die but I don't think those are in the front line [16:26] <Pleshette> Bill and Fleur live, Charlie I'm not sure [16:26] <JaneMarple9> charlie could be in danger with the dragons [16:26] <dumbleydore18> I think they will all live. Fluer will be a good link for getting international help. I don't see these three diing [16:26] <Narya> Fleur - not sure - but if I'm guessing, I think she and Bill both make it [16:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this couple has suffered enough, although I do admit concern for Charlie [16:26] <Ravenclaws_Heir> THanks, sooner [16:27] * SoonerGryffindor loves Charlie [16:27] <Aislinn> I think that somebody from the Weasley family will not make it, but I'm not sure if it would be any of these 3 [16:27] <NiGHTS> I think they will all live ... hate to say it but I think if a Weasley dies it has to have massive impact for thr reader and that measn it would be one of the twins [16:27] <JaneMarple9> agreed sooner [16:27] <futureweasley> I hope that Charlie lives for Sooner's sake...I will get a call at 4am with a bawling Sooner on the other end if Charlie bites it [16:27] <Pleshette> I've got to run...but before I do... [16:27] <Evreka> Charlie - because we know him least, Bill because I think HARRY will need him as Curse.-Breaker [16:27] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL future [16:27] <DumbleDebbie> bye Pleshette [16:27] <MirandaV> I agree with Sooner [16:27] <Pleshette> The trio Lives! [16:27] <ltbrave23> i agree nights [16:27] <mollywobbles23> Or Fleur will be horribly scarred protecting Bill. That would be poetic. [16:27] <JaneMarple9> we don't know much about charlie [16:27] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, Aislinn! [16:27] <Aislinn> LOL pleshette [16:27] <Evreka> and fleur not to confuse Bill [16:27] <MirandaV> bye pleshette...lol [16:27] <Pleshette> smile Hugs to you all! [16:27] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Pleshette [16:27] <futureweasley> we'll miss you Pleshette [16:27] <MirandaV> hug pleshette [16:27] <NiGHTS> Bye pleshette [16:27] <DumbleDebbie> take care [16:27] <JaneMarple9> yeah Phelesette yeah [16:27] <Pleshette> Miss you back futue! [16:27] <nympheart> bye pleshette [16:27] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:28] <ProngsPatronus> bye, pleshette [16:28] <cbm> A quick comment, My problem with live or die, is the small number of people who lived that were in the 1st OotP. SO I expect a number of deaths in DH [16:28] *** Ravenclaws_Heir left #lounge [] [16:28] <Evreka> me too cbm [16:28] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [16:28] <SoonerGryffindor> Fred and George Weasley love to be a part of the action. Will both of the twins live, or might one *gulp* die? [16:28] <CarpeDiem> Yes, good point CBM [16:28] <mollywobbles23> shhhh! cbm! sssshhhh! [16:28] <MirandaV> Oh...I agree there will be death [16:28] <DumbleDebbie> yes, grisly doesn't bode well cbm [16:28] <ltbrave23> i think one will die [16:28] <MrMcGonagall> If they go, they both need to go. [16:28] <ProngsPatronus> I think one of the twins will die [16:28] <Narya> I think one of the twins will die [16:28] <nympheart> I think one will die because that's worse than losing both [16:28] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, I'm afraid one might die [16:28] * SoonerGryffindor doesnt even want to think about htis [16:28] <bubblehead> The twins will live! [16:28] <mollywobbles23> Your logic i snot welcome! lol. [16:28] <DumbleDebbie> if so, probably Fred [16:28] <ProngsPatronus> and I think it will be George [16:28] <mollywobbles23> is not* [16:29] <DumbleDebbie> :( [16:29] <cbm> I hope live as the world needs laughter!!! [16:29] <Aislinn> Waaaaah! I really think that one of them will die [16:29] <Narya> George, rather than Fred [16:29] <mollywobbles23> eek! [16:29] <CarpeDiem> I think it's got to be both or none. They are as on character together. [16:29] <MirandaV> If only one dies I think it would be horrible...the thought makes me ill...I don't want to talk about it anymore [16:29] <nympheart> It will be Fred who dies because George is my favorite [16:29] <NiGHTS> Like I said before: there is massive impact to be achieved by having one of the twins killed [16:29] *** dumbleydore18 has joined #lounge [16:29] <SoonerGryffindor> when I heard there were 2 extra deaths..... [16:29] <ltbrave23> i think it will be george [16:29] <SoonerGryffindor> my first thought was the twins [16:29] <Evreka> My peroblem is the two extra deaths and the reprieve - that makes any clues if any for those three in the previous books useless [16:29] <ltbrave23> whoops i mean fred [16:29] <NiGHTS> me too, sooner ! [16:29] <MirandaV> Shhh sooner! no no no no [16:29] <dumbleydore18> what was the last question? [16:29] * mollywobbles23 couldn't even kill one off in her own fanfiction story; could only seriously injure one. [16:29] <DumbleDebbie> losing one of them would be heartwrenching, so it's likely to happen sad [16:29] <bubblehead> If only one died I think the other would become totally reclusive and depressed and might as well have died too [16:29] <Aislinn> I think that George is the one that would most likely jump to protect someone else, but that Fred is the more aggressive of the two, so I'm torn which it would be [16:29] <NiGHTS> awww@Molly ! [16:30] <MirandaV> of a broken heart bubblehead? [16:30] <Evreka> I fear one twin will die - the other would be devastated sad [16:30] <mollywobbles23> I made it a cliffie too! People hated me. [16:30] <ProngsPatronus> I( think that george's death will motivate fred [16:30] <NiGHTS> lol [16:30] *** antonin has joined #lounge [16:30] <antonin> back@ [16:30] <dumbleydore18> what was the last question???? [16:30] <mollywobbles23> the twins [16:30] <ltbrave23> i actually think just the opposite of prongs [16:30] <ProngsPatronus> he is the more aggressive of the two [16:30] <DumbleDebbie> wb antonin [16:30] <ProngsPatronus> and the more reckless [16:30] <Aislinn> he is prongs [16:30] <antonin> haha thanks [16:30] <nympheart> me too ltbrave [16:30] <Narya> Fred is definitely more reckless [16:30] <NiGHTS> I think that one of the twin's deaths will turn the Weasleys into a kick ass warrior clan, hell bent on destroying DE's left, right and centre [16:30] <antonin> i hope they both live [16:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I am really, really scared [16:30] <antonin> i really like them [16:31] <Aislinn> which might make him more at risk [16:31] *** Joyhawk2121 has quit [Bye] [16:31] <mollywobbles23> I think it would be odd to see George without Fred. George is the quieter of the two. [16:31] <Narya> George's death would have terrrible repercussions [16:31] <MirandaV> I have to go throw up [16:31] * DumbleDebbie give Sooner a hug [16:31] <ProngsPatronus> but I rate both of them as very, very likely to die [16:31] <mollywobbles23> oh no, Miranda! [16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I hope Molly doesnt have Ron's skill of making off handed comments and predicting the future [16:31] *** Joyhawk2121 has joined #lounge [16:31] <dumbleydore18> I think the two major deaths will be the twins because they are a pair. Jo said that "two loved one would die" [16:31] <ltbrave23> exactly molly, it would cause george to step out from behind the shadow [16:31] <MirandaV> This talk is making me ill [16:31] <antonin> hi joyhawk [16:31] <Narya> I think she might, Sooner [16:31] <ProngsPatronus> they defy LV just by having their shop open on Diagon Alley [16:31] <NiGHTS> My goddaughter will ring me in floods of tears in Fred or George die !! [16:31] <bubblehead> oh yea if one died the other would be totally broken hearted. Imagine one without the other. Thats an awfull picture... [16:31] <Aislinn> I think that it would be beyond heartbreaking to see one of the twins alone without the other [16:31] <mollywobbles23> I hope they both live, though. [16:31] <cbm> That would be a bad moment in the books, I expect it would happen off-camera and be announced in an owl [16:31] <antonin> ahh, finally the ole lag monsters gone [16:31] <ltbrave23> me too miranda [16:31] <Joyhawk2121> hello again everyone [16:31] <Aislinn> hi joy [16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> hello joy [16:31] <Narya> I agree, Aislinn, but we can't take anything for granted [16:31] <dumbleydore18> so therefore the twins will die because they are helping the ministry with curse protetor uniforms and the baddies wont like that [16:32] *** DumbleDebbie has quit [Bye] [16:32] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [16:32] <mollywobbles23> No, I think if one or both of the twins die, Harry will be there when it happens. [16:32] <Aislinn> oh, I think it is very likely to happen [16:32] * cbm has the lag monster now [16:32] <Evreka> I'll probably phone *MY* mother in a flood of tearts too happy_crying [16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> Arthur and Molly Weasley are like Harry's surrogate parents. Heaven forbid, can you see either of them dying? [16:32] <bubblehead> NO [16:32] <Aislinn> I just think it will be beyond heartbreaking sad [16:32] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, it's bad cbm (the lagging) [16:32] <NiGHTS> They have certainly placed themselves in danger, dumbleydore [16:32] <Narya> Molly - rather than Arthur [16:32] <Joyhawk2121> No [16:32] <ltbrave23> i don't even want to think about it [16:32] <antonin> fight back cbm [16:32] <DumbleDebbie> lol Evreka [16:32] <MirandaV> happy_crying no, no, no [16:32] <nympheart> If one of them is going to die, it will be Molly [16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> This chat is just gettig better, eh? /sarcasm [16:32] <bubblehead> I want Molly to be my mom [16:32] <harryfreak359> No, I hope that both of them live... [16:32] <Narya> biggrin Sooner [16:32] <cbm> Yes, but again I hope not [16:32] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, I'm really really afraid Molly is a goner sad [16:32] <NiGHTS> I don't think so;it would be hell for Molly after losing her brothers [16:32] <ltbrave23> but i agree with nympheart [16:33] <futureweasley> I hope for the best, but am preparing for the worst [16:33] <Evreka> Can I see it - yes. I fear for Molly [16:33] <antonin> haha, molly yells a lot [16:33] <ProngsPatronus> I hope that they will both live, but I think one of them will die [16:33] <Evreka> But I do not want it!!! [16:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I think part of me would die if Molly dies. All of those future grandkids need a grammy [16:33] <ProngsPatronus> and that will bring percy back [16:33] <MirandaV> Now, this one made my baby throw up... laugh [16:33] <nympheart> language please, nights [16:33] <MrMcGonagall> I fear more for Molly. If LV attacks those Harry loves, the Burrow is a good place to start. [16:33] <Narya> I've thought the worst for Molly ever since the Boggart in OotP [16:33] <dumbleydore18> dont you say that Debbie!!!!!!! Don't you say that *tears up* Molly is my fave...don't you say that [16:33] <Evreka> exactly fw [16:33] <mollywobbles23> That's if it happens during a battle. IF they are attacked at WWW, then I think Molly and Arthur will come to them in person if they are at Hogwarts or even worse, they will learn about it in the Daily Prophet while on the hunt. [16:33] <ProngsPatronus> torn on which one [16:33] <Aislinn> I don't know why, but I've never feared for Molly, and I think we've already seen Arthur's threat [16:33] <DumbleDebbie> lol miranda [16:33] <DumbleDebbie> yes Narya [16:33] <ProngsPatronus> I have great fear for Molly [16:33] <MirandaV> there went that sweater [16:33] <Narya> I think about her clock, Aislinn [16:33] <NiGHTS> I meant hell as in situation/place not cursing ! [16:33] <mollywobbles23> Like I said, I'm reading a fanfic where Molly dies. I cried for three solid chapters. [16:33] <ProngsPatronus> she is the one who loves percy best [16:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Arthur is going to be okay [16:34] <mollywobbles23> sobbed would be the better word. [16:34] <SoonerGryffindor> he's had his brush with death [16:34] <ltbrave23> i agree sooner [16:34] <NiGHTS> truer, sooner [16:34] <futureweasley> well, she's the worryer, I think it would be cruel to leave her without Arthur to carry on without him [16:34] <dumbleydore18> and...oh man....Arthur....if he dies please Jo let him find out the purpose of a rubber ducky! Please! He has to know!!!!!!!! [16:34] <Aislinn> she's on the clock isn't she, narya? [16:34] <bubblehead> I think that if either of them died the Weasleys would just be such broken family...It'd be terrible [16:34] <Narya> to me, it signifies something - like a subtle hint from JKR that the clock is ticking on Molly's life [16:34] <ProngsPatronus> which might make him more vulnerable, sooner [16:34] <DumbleDebbie> I think about how ironic it would be that Molly lives in fear of everyone else dying and she might be the one to go [16:34] <Narya> yes she is [16:34] <mollywobbles23> lol, dubleydore [16:34] <NiGHTS> in fact, I'd like to see Molly get a little payback for all her suffering [16:34] <MirandaV> I hope that they are both okay, but if Harry needs another kick in the pants in DH I can see her killing or seriously injuring Molly [16:34] <DumbleDebbie> and it would devastate the family [16:34] <mollywobbles23> dumbleydore* [16:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Molly is the captain of the Weasley ship. It would so go adrift if she died [16:34] <Aislinn> but soe are the rest of the clan [16:34] <Narya> I know they are [16:34] <Narya> to me, it's subtle [16:34] <Narya> could be wrong [16:34] * mollywobbles23 is tearing up just thinking about it [16:35] <Narya> just an instinct [16:35] <cbm> I think it would be very sad for Molly to join her brothers [16:35] <antonin> haha dumbleydore [16:35] <Evreka> Debbie she does fear to go - remember she worried about who'd take care of her kids... [16:35] <NiGHTS> agreed, cbm [16:35] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, it would be horribly sad, that's why I think it's going to happen sad [16:35] <mollywobbles23> I think Molly would sacrifice herself for her children though. [16:35] <Narya> She worries about her children, but she's brave too [16:35] <CarpeDiem> That's a good way of putting it Sooner. [16:35] <dumbleydore18> hug <-----from one weasley lover to another It'll be okay [16:35] <Aislinn> yes she is, and very protective of her clan [16:36] <antonin> yes, i agree [16:36] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [16:36] <SoonerGryffindor> Thanks to Harry, Ginny survived Voldemort in Book 2. Is there a chance she might die in Book 7? Why or why not? [16:36] <bubblehead> I don't think I could ever be the same if Molly died. I want her to knit me sweaters and send me easter eggs [16:36] <MirandaV> that's true Evreka...and they said what do you think we'd do Molly, leave them out in the cold [16:36] <harryfreak359> yes i agree [16:36] <DumbleDebbie> Ginny will live [16:36] <antonin> that would be terrible [16:36] <NiGHTS> I think all Molly's kids would fight to the death to protect her, come to the crunch ... even Percy (maybe especially Percy0 [16:36] <SoonerGryffindor> If Ginny dies, I predict that Harry will die [16:36] <harryfreak359> nooo I don't think she will die [16:36] * DumbleDebbie crosses her fingers [16:36] <nympheart> No, because the Harry/Ginny ship needs to sail [16:36] <MirandaV> Ginny will live [16:36] <mollywobbles23> oh, my sister and her family are here for dinner. I have to go. Ginny lives! The Trio lives! Bye! [16:36] <Evreka> Not a chance - but a risk sad [16:36] <Aislinn> I can't see Jo being so cruel as to kill her off [16:36] <futureweasley> you can't have one without the other... [16:36] <Narya> I think Ginny is in as much danger as everyone else and if she goes, Harry will go too [16:36] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Molly [16:36] <MirandaV> Yes nymph... [16:36] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [16:36] *** mollywobbles23 has quit [Bye] [16:36] <DumbleDebbie> bye molly [16:36] <MirandaV> bye Molly [16:36] <cbm> Live, her dieing would be the end of Harry [16:36] <antonin> ginny will live [16:36] <MrMcGonagall> Face it, though, Aislinn, Jo doesn't spare our feelings. [16:36] <dumbleydore18> Ginny will live [16:36] <Joyhawk2121> bye molly [16:36] <ltbrave23> i think she will live too [16:36] <bubblehead> I don't think Ginny will die [16:36] <SoonerGryffindor> agreed cbm [16:36] <NiGHTS> We have more to see of 7th daughter of a 7th daughter Ginny Weasley ... [16:36] <JaneMarple9> who are we onto now? smile [16:36] <antonin> because harry will live, and ginny and harry are going to be together!!!! [16:36] <Narya> Exactly, Mr McG [16:37] <DumbleDebbie> Ginny Jane [16:37] <ltbrave23> i agree nights [16:37] <ProngsPatronus> I do not think Ginny will die--but I think she is in terrible danger, because she will put herself in harm's way [16:37] <Aislinn> although she has been unbelievably cruel to Harry already, so who knows? [16:37] <Evreka> I'm afraid of what it would do to Harry and on Ron's and Harry's relationship... [16:37] <JaneMarple9> oooo ginny" she has to live [16:37] <dumbleydore18> she is too strong willed of a character to die...I see a bit of Jo in her...so she wnot die [16:37] <antonin> ginny [16:37] <Narya> That's what I think of all the time, Aislinn [16:37] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:37] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:37] <JaneMarple9> totally agree with antontin [16:37] <cbm> True, Jo is not very sentimental [16:37] <Evreka> makes sence Prongs [16:37] <futureweasley> I think Harry would be a shell of his former self if Ginny weren't there for him at the end of the day [16:37] <JaneMarple9> she is going to be vital in book 7 [16:37] *** cbm has quit [Bye] [16:37] *** Ravenclaws_Heir has joined #lounge [16:37] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, me too future [16:37] <NiGHTS> I disagree with Harry's assessment that she's safer if they stay apart ... it has to be pretty common knowledge that they are already together [16:37] <antonin> *sigh* i g2g again, bye everyone [16:37] <JaneMarple9> she may not go horcrux hunting - too young [16:37] <DumbleDebbie> wb RH [16:37] <Aislinn> even witih that, though, I think her tale is not a tragedy, so I don't think she will leave Harry with no one at the end [16:38] <Evreka> Aislinn - how has she been cruel to Harry? [16:38] <DumbleDebbie> bye antonin [16:38] <MirandaV> I'm not a huge shipper, but for goodness sakes Harry and Ginny have to happen [16:38] *** cbm has joined #lounge [16:38] <Ravenclaws_Heir> HI guys! Sorry, my computers not very happy today [16:38] <ltbrave23> i agree miranda [16:38] <cbm> Neither is mine [16:38] <Narya> I don't think they could stop her going on the hunt if she wanted to, but that might not happen [16:38] <JaneMarple9> but she will be around hogwarts smile [16:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Yeah, if for some reason Ginny dies in the story, then I will know that Harry is going to be toast. However, I do not see it happening [16:38] <bubblehead> i think Ginny would sacrafice herself for Harry if that was needed but I don't think she wil have to [16:38] <ProngsPatronus> Molly might, though [16:38] <Aislinn> erm, killed off his parents, his godfather, his mentor - made him the subject of abuse, etc etc etc [16:38] <Evreka> Oh, you meant Jo, not Ginny? [16:38] <NiGHTS> or will Ginny be one more widow of war, stood by a famous grave ... [16:38] <futureweasley> I AM a huge shipper, and I just want to see happy endings for all these couples that have had a rough go of things [16:38] <JaneMarple9> yes miranda totally [16:38] <NiGHTS> ***hopes not*** [16:38] <Aislinn> Jo, yes [16:38] <ltbrave23> i just think that enough people have sacrificed themselves for harry [16:38] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Same, future [16:38] <dumbleydore18> Ginny will continue the DA lessons while Harry is away...she has a mean bat-bogey hex... [16:39] <cbm> I agree future [16:39] <antonin> bye! [16:39] <JaneMarple9> yes ltbrave [16:39] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [16:39] *** ltbrave23 has quit [Bye] [16:39] <MirandaV> I just don't get into the ship discussions I should say...they make me too emotional [16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> Okay, we have one Weasley left..... [16:39] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron is also in a dangerous position. Will he be injured and die, or will he pull through like he has in the past? [16:39] <Narya> I don't think the "happy ending" scenario figures a lot in JKR's thinking, FW - it's too simple [16:39] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think at the start of DH she will be at Hogwarts, but eventually she will end up joining the trio on the Horcrux hunt. I just can't see her staying away [16:39] <DumbleDebbie> live [16:39] <nympheart> Ron will live [16:40] <cbm> I think Ron will live [16:40] <MirandaV> Ron will live [16:40] <ltbrave23> i agree ron will live [16:40] <Ravenclaws_Heir> No! He has to live! My won won can't die! [16:40] <Evreka> I hope he lives and marries Hermione and they get cute kids [16:40] <cbm> lol [16:40] <MrMcGonagall> I think he'll live. [16:40] <JaneMarple9> I don't do ships either - I bet mine would be called Titanic biggrin [16:40] <Narya> I think Ron is in huge danger - he's my other candidate to die [16:40] <JaneMarple9> ron....I'm on the fence [16:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I really think that there are certain "core characters" that are untouchable [16:40] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron is one of those [16:40] <bubblehead> I hope he lives! He an Hermione need to get married and have lots of children with red hair and named Harry [16:40] <cbm> Red Bushy Haried kids? [16:40] <ltbrave23> i agree sooner [16:40] <ProngsPatronus> I think that ron may live [16:40] <MirandaV> lol Jane...I had a sinker, but I caught a life raft smile [16:40] <JaneMarple9> he might die - foreshadowing of book 1 and the chess match [16:40] <SoonerGryffindor> If any of them die, Harry's life is even worse than it already is [16:40] <CarpeDiem> It could be that Ron will die. He has shown to sacrafice himself in the past. [16:40] <Evreka> but If one in the trio has to go, I would miss him the least I think - though I would really miss him a lot [16:40] <dumbleydore18> Ron will sacrifice himself in a similar way he did in Sorcerer's / philosophers stone. He will stand to protect Harry...Ron will live, but be gravely injurted [16:41] <Aislinn> I think he may live, but the fact that he sacrificed himself in the first book makes me nervous for him [16:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron is Harry's best friend in the whole world. [16:41] <JaneMarple9> but if he doesn't he'd pair up with hermione [16:41] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I certainly hope so sooner. And I agreed 100% until JKR said that thing about evil not going for extras. Then again...she may have just been messing with our minds. [16:41] <Narya> Ron has unicorn hair in his wand, right? [16:41] <MrMcGonagall> Me too, Aislinn [16:41] <DumbleDebbie> I'm hoping Ron already had his brush with death in HBP [16:41] <Narya> so that puts him in danger [16:41] <SoonerGryffindor> *gulp* Yes Narya [16:41] * JaneMarple9 thinks me and dumbley are sharing the same fence today biggrin [16:41] <Narya> There you have it [16:41] <futureweasley> R/Hr is my ship...and to make that work, Ron needs to live. So, if he dies at any part during DH, I will likely put the book down and not come back to it until I've dealt with my grief and anger. Siriusly [16:41] <SoonerGryffindor> noooooo [16:41] <Narya> yep [16:41] <JaneMarple9> and whats bad about unicorn hair???????? [16:41] <MirandaV> What did I miss about a unicorn hair? [16:42] <cbm> Ron will ahve a brush in HBP too, I think everyone will [16:42] <Narya> Ron has unicorn hair in his wand [16:42] <cbm> DH [16:42] <Evreka> Yeah, but if Harry has to stand aloner for the battle I rather see him dead and Hermione free to love Krum than Hermione dead and Ron completely alone... [16:42] <Narya> the innocents die first [16:42] <DumbleDebbie> Cedric had unicorn hair wand [16:42] * SoonerGryffindor will let Narya explain the threory [16:42] <MrMcGonagall> The innocent are the first casualties in war = unicorns [16:42] <JaneMarple9> :) nice echo there miranda! [16:42] <DumbleDebbie> right Narya [16:42] <MirandaV> :lol: Jane [16:42] <Narya> So has Neville [16:42] <Ravenclaws_Heir> There is a theory that wand cores have a relation to who lives and who dies. And that those with Unicorn Hair are more likley to die. [16:42] <JaneMarple9> and why is unicorn hait significant? [16:42] <bubblehead> Oh nooooo. I want ron to live [16:42] <Narya> well, we'll see [16:42] <MirandaV> Okay...I don't agree with that theory then [16:42] <MirandaV> :) [16:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Miranda [16:42] <Evreka> me too, I do NOT want him dead [16:42] <Narya> It's one theory of many [16:42] <Ravenclaws_Heir> nor do I, Miranda [16:43] <ltbrave23> i don't either miranda [16:43] <DumbleDebbie> nor I [16:43] <Narya> so we'll see [16:43] <harryfreak359> nor I [16:43] <JaneMarple9> well if neville has unicorn hair too ron won't die [16:43] <dumbleydore18> my fence is open any time jane [16:43] <DumbleDebbie> I don't want him dead. Like future I want a happy ending for Ron and Hermione [16:43] <Narya> Why not? [16:43] *** NiGHTS has quit [Bye] [16:43] <MirandaV> I feel like I have a post up my rear at this point [16:43] <Narya> JKR doesn't rule anything out [16:43] <Narya> we've seen that time and time again [16:43] <JaneMarple9> good to hear dumbley smile [16:43] <DumbleDebbie> ouch miranda [16:43] <MrMcGonagall> I don't want anybody dead (except maybe LV, since he's irredeemable), but that's not how Jo rolls. [16:43] <JaneMarple9> laugh miranda! [16:44] <ltbrave23> i just think that there is another importance as to the core of the wands [16:44] <ProngsPatronus> I think he will live because of what JKR said about ron in that interview [16:44] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I know, but I am so attached to the trio that I just can't see any of them dying. Maybe I am being naive, but I can't help it. It is just to painful to see any of them dead. [16:44] <dumbleydore18> CB mods are we \going to do "final thoughts"? [16:44] <ltbrave23> i remember that interview prongs [16:44] <Aislinn> Only 16 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next P3 chat [16:44] <cbm> Anyone one in the book could end up dead or alive, there is only 1 I am 100% sure will die [16:44] <MirandaV> I agree RH....I want them all to live and I can' see it any differently [16:44] <JaneMarple9> if ron did die...it wouldn;t affect me massively [16:44] <DumbleDebbie> lol cbm, voldy? wink [16:44] <Narya> It's an interesting interview, PP, but it proves nothing [16:44] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Who, cbm? [16:44] <cbm> yes [16:45] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ah [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> As if talking about Ron is not bad enough...... [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> Will Hermione Granger live? Can you think of any circumstances where she might be in danger of dying, or is she too smart to be defeated? [16:45] <MirandaV> Which interview [16:45] <DumbleDebbie> yes, she will live too [16:45] <cbm> Live [16:45] <nympheart> She'll live too! [16:45] <MirandaV> Hermy lives! [16:45] <dumbleydore18> live [16:45] <ltbrave23> yes she will live [16:45] <Evreka> I CERTAINLY hope she does! [16:45] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Again, I can't bear to think she will die [16:45] <JaneMarple9> shes in danger [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> Okay, what scares me about this [16:45] <cbm> I think she and Ron are a package deal [16:45] <DumbleDebbie> no one is too smart, but I still think she'll live [16:45] <Evreka> me neither [16:45] <ProngsPatronus> I think she is the one of the trio most in danger of dying [16:45] <Aislinn> they are all in danger [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> is that she is not the best under pressure [16:45] <futureweasley> I repeat my above sentiment...my ship is R/Hr. For that to work, Hermione needs to live [16:45] <JaneMarple9> She might learn something too dangerous [16:45] <ltbrave23> i agree prongs [16:45] <Narya> I think that Hermione will live - but again, everything is possible with JKR [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> and she has not had a close brush with death yet [16:45] <bubblehead> I think Hermione will live [16:45] <CarpeDiem> she would sacrifice herself to save her friends but other than that I think she'll be okay smile [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> and she has muggle parents [16:45] <MrMcGonagall> Hermione lives. Which I admit influenced me on whether I thought Ron would live (which he will) [16:46] <MirandaV> No she isn't Sooner...no matter what the movies try to portray...in the books she panics under pressure [16:46] <JaneMarple9> that leads her straight into Voldies death [16:46] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Good point, sooner. But I think she will learn to deal with pressure better as she matures [16:46] <Evreka> Yes she has Sooner, in OOTP [16:46] <JaneMarple9> what about CoS Sooner? [16:46] <MrMcGonagall> That curse in the Ministry wasn't pleasant, Sooner [16:46] <cbm> In CoS she had a brush with death [16:46] <DumbleDebbie> well maybe she'll just be hurt Sooner, but no tkilled [16:46] <futureweasley> what does having muggle parents have to do with it? [16:46] <nympheart> true, sooner, but she has improved slightly. I think her role will be more behind the scenes anyway [16:46] <SoonerGryffindor> well, I guess [16:46] <Pellinore> JkR liked to play that dangle from the stairs game asking not to let go... would be funny to see that between characters as they struggle for life. [16:46] <ltbrave23> no sooner but harry thought in ootp that she may have been dead [16:46] <JaneMarple9> when she was petrified [16:46] <dumbleydore18> Yes Jane I think she will be in danger, agreeable, but I think she will live. I think she is more than just book smarts, she can put up a good fight...remember the train scene at the end of GoF? oooo good fight! [16:46] <SoonerGryffindor> but I dont consider that as much, I guess [16:46] * MrMcGonagall thinks Sooner has it in for Hermione. [16:46] <SoonerGryffindor> they were all banged up after that scene [16:46] <JaneMarple9> and yes in book 5, at the ministrry [16:46] <ProngsPatronus> even more than Harry, hermione has been a target of Draco and other pureblood's disgust [16:46] <SoonerGryffindor> all 6 of them had a brush with it then [16:46] * JaneMarple9 agrees with Mr McGonagall! [16:46] *** DumbleDebbie has quit [Bye] [16:47] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [16:47] <ProngsPatronus> she is the berrightest witch of her age--like Lily [16:47] <bubblehead> the DE go after muggle borns so that puts her in a bad position...but I think she can take them down [16:47] <cbm> I think everyone will be in Great danger, just like the 6 in the ministry were in great danger [16:47] <Evreka> not as bad as Hermione and Ron [16:47] <MirandaV> Well, she is better, but I don't think he inability to deal well with pressure means she'll die, she may be injured though [16:47] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, and I think her parents are maybe in danger as well [16:47] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Very true prongs. Though I still can't envision her dying, the fact that she is muggle born will put in in a great deal of danger. [16:47] <Narya> That's an interesting point, PP [16:47] <Aislinn> and Lily died [16:47] <Evreka> I don't sooner, Jo hasd said they are unimportant [16:47] <JaneMarple9> no can't see Mr and Mrs Granger in danger [16:47] *** ph63915 has joined #lounge [16:47] <JaneMarple9> (hey that rhymes!!) [16:47] *** Pellinore has quit [Bye] [16:47] *** Pellinore has joined #lounge [16:47] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Then again, Harry being the boy who lived and Ron being a "blood traitor: kind of put them on the same grounds as her. [16:47] <DumbleDebbie> hi ph63915 [16:48] <MrMcGonagall> Whether she's a target depends on LV reading Rita Skeeter's column. LOL [16:48] <ph63915> evening all [16:48] <MirandaV> you're a poet and you didn't know it [16:48] <Evreka> lol [16:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I do think that she will be left standing once all of the dust is cleared, but I am more worr |
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[16:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I do think that she will be left standing once all of the dust is cleared, but I am more worried for her than I am for Ron
[16:48] <JaneMarple9> but what about hermiones younger sister? [16:48] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol Mr.M [16:48] <Narya> biggrin Mr McG [16:48] <nympheart> Her sister never appeared, I'm not sure if she's going to [16:48] <Evreka> who doesn't exist Jane [16:48] <ProngsPatronus> she is the one Lucius mentions when he rates Draco on his grades [16:48] <Narya> Hermone doesn't have a sister [16:48] <SoonerGryffindor> she doesnt have one [16:48] <MirandaV> she's an only child in the books right? Didn't her younger sister get cut [16:48] <JaneMarple9> because she does have a sister who doesn't attend hogwarts i believe [16:48] <SoonerGryffindor> since Jo never wrote it in [16:48] <Evreka> yes Miranda [16:49] <SoonerGryffindor> no, Jo ws going to do that, but didnt. So therefore, she is an only child [16:49] <cbm> Joe said it was in her notes but never wrote it [16:49] <futureweasley> Jo never wrote it...she gave Colin Creevey a brother, Dennis, instead [16:49] <Pellinore> Jo decided to make Hermione an only child so she's have more of a reason to hang out at the weasleys & Hogwarts over hollidays [16:49] <cbm> I think her parents are in danger and wonder if they know how much danger they are in [16:49] <JaneMarple9> awww shame sad [16:49] <SoonerGryffindor> and probably to decrease the Hermione/Lily comparioson [16:49] <JaneMarple9> another idea out of the window! [16:49] <MirandaV> THe Creevey brothers...can you imagine there obsession with Harry after he saves the wizarding world yet again! [16:50] <Pellinore> Quick shut that window! [16:50] <cbm> If they live? [16:50] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I doubt they know it, cbm. In fact, I think they may be oblivious to the whole war or they wouldn't let Hermione go back to Hogwarts [16:50] <SoonerGryffindor> Voldemort - is there any possible way he could live? [16:50] <ProngsPatronus> I just think she will be a bigger target, because she is a spectacularly successful Muggle-born--and it will dishearten Harry not to have her input [16:50] <ltbrave23> i don't understand why her parents would be in danger [16:50] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [16:50] <DumbleDebbie> I think Muggles are going to be keenly aware of the war [16:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he does live [16:50] <CarpeDiem> lol Maranda [16:50] <Narya> I don't think LV can live [16:50] <nympheart> none, he's going to die [16:50] <DumbleDebbie> Voldy will die [16:50] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Yes! I think there is a good chance he will [16:50] <cbm> I think he may end up soulless [16:50] <MirandaV> Maybe if he suffers a fate worse than death Sooner...I'm all for that [16:50] <ltbrave23> i actually think he lives as well [16:50] <Evreka> Only if the fate worse than death comes into play... [16:50] <dumbleydore18> voldy will die [16:50] <JaneMarple9> die die die die die die die die die die die [16:50] <harryfreak359> he will be defeated, but I am not sure that means he will die, so I will say that he may live [16:50] <ProngsPatronus> I think LV HAS to die [16:50] *** bubblehead has quit [Bye] [16:51] <cbm> soulless as there are worse fates than death [16:51] <Pellinore> only chance is if Jo bows to the pacifics and he gets turned into a Muggle and this entire story ends up like My LIttle Pony  .[16:51] <Aislinn> I think there is a very slight chance he could live, but he will most likely die [16:51] <JaneMarple9> Only time I can come off the fence biggrin [16:51] <Ravenclaws_Heir> ONlky because he does not realize that there is anything worse than death--he needs to learn that. And I don't think Harry could murder. [16:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he will be defeated. Live is someting else [16:51] <Narya> He's been a dead man walking since his first murder split his soul [16:51] <CarpeDiem> I think he'll live. I think he's destined for a "fate worse than death" [16:51] <Aislinn> I don't think Harry will kill him though [16:51] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner [16:51] <MrMcGonagall> Nope, he's got to, got to, got to go. [16:51] <nympheart> there are things worse than death, but as LV's greatest fear is death, it is the worst for him [16:51] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree sooner [16:51] <JaneMarple9> hmmm not sure aislinn [16:51] <Pellinore> To the Pain! ;o [16:51] <Evreka> Whatever happens it will be a FINAL defeat not like his vanquish in 81 [16:51] <MirandaV> Yes sooner [16:51] <DumbleDebbie> since death is the thing he's done all these evil things to avoid, I think he NEEDS to die [16:51] <Narya> Harry wiill definitely not kill LV [16:51] <futureweasley> I would not want Voldemort to live, even if his powers were bound. Because, in the muggle world, he could still find knives, guns, poisons, and other means to be destructive [16:51] <cbm> But I think it would be ironic for him to be soulless in an immortal body [16:51] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe he can lose his marbles and share a room with Lockhart [16:51] <MrMcGonagall> It's certainly not going to be a simple AK. [16:51] <Evreka> so I think he'll have to fie [16:51] <ltbrave23> lol pellinore [16:52] <Evreka> *die [16:52] <ProngsPatronus> I agree with that, narya [16:52] <JaneMarple9> but voldies greatest fear is love [16:52] <DumbleDebbie> b/c even as a Muggle he could kill and maim and destroy lives [16:52] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol sooner [16:52] <Narya> LV's greatest fear is death, not love [16:52] <nympheart> he doesn't fear Love, he just doesn't understand it [16:52] <Ravenclaws_Heir> That would be worse than death! [16:52] <Evreka> lol cbm [16:52] <ProngsPatronus> as he did at the orphanage [16:52] <MirandaV> I still think he should have to live in the love room for the rest of his life...that would be suffering for him [16:52] <cbm> Or turned into a muggle and put in a mental hospital yelling "I am LV" [16:52] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Agreed, nymph [16:52] <DumbleDebbie> he fears death most of all [16:52] <JaneMarple9> that would be interesting soonner - lockheart and voldie!! biggrin [16:52] <Pellinore> Carebear hug for LV and BOOM he explodes into a shower of flowers! ;p [16:52] <dumbleydore18> Mr. Nlood will attack Voldy's insides when he goes to kill harry [16:53] <dumbleydore18> Mr. Blood* [16:53] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol pellinore...the carebears strike again [16:53] <SoonerGryffindor> Seriously, if Harry ends up killing LV in cold-blood tht would be the worst ending ever [16:53] <JaneMarple9> biggrin great image Pellinore! [16:53] <MirandaV> I like the idea of Harry's blood poisoning him from within... [16:53] <DumbleDebbie> I think leaving Voldy alive leaves too much of a window of doubt as to whether he might rise again [16:53] <nympheart> Love will kill him, maybe or maybe not in the form of Mr. Blood [16:53] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree sooner! [16:53] <Narya> It won't happen, Sooner [16:53] *** SillyPutty has joined #lounge [16:53] <ProngsPatronus> I think him too dangerous to be allowed to survive [16:53] <Evreka> agree Debbie [16:53] <JaneMarple9> the carebears are vital for Book 7 biggrin [16:53] <MirandaV> I think so too Sooner [16:53] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we are going to learn how DD defeated Grindewald and see history repeat itself [16:53] <CarpeDiem> ...a window for more books, Debbie? In case JKR get's bored someday? smile [16:53] <dumbleydore18> lol [16:53] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think Harry will get rid of him with an offensive attack, I think it will be the result of somethign defensive by harry [16:54] <CarpeDiem> lol Jane [16:54] <MirandaV> Well, except if Harry dies that would be worse [16:54] <SoonerGryffindor> that being said.... I think he will more than likely die by the end [16:54] <cbm> Not if all pieces of his soul are destroyed, maybe after destroying the soul they send him through the veil [16:54] <JaneMarple9> subtitle to deathly hallows - Harry and the carebears biggrin [16:54] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I think they will find some way to make him not a threat, but let him live. He needs to learn that there is something worse than death. [16:54] <DumbleDebbie> I wouldn't want that cbm, really [16:54] <ph63915> LV will die from a kiss..but not a loving one! [16:54] <Pellinore> I don't... finally have a non Hollywood ending that's more realistic then the old turn you back on the bad guy to give him a chance then kill'm as he missing at point black range at your bck [16:54] <Evreka> I hope so Debbie [16:54] <MirandaV> I think so too Sooner [16:54] <DumbleDebbie> ooops carpe [16:54] <Pellinore> point blank* [16:54] <JaneMarple9> voldie has to die for me [16:54] <dumbleydore18> The hidden chapter of DH: Harry Potter and his life with the carebears [16:54] <Evreka> because that's the catch - these books say it's wrong to kill - yet Harry must. Our good great lovely Harry [16:54] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry Potter: The boy who lived OR the boy who liveS? What are your hopes and fears for Harry's ending? [16:55] <Narya> I don't see LV dying at the hands of the Dementors, either - his soul is too torn for that [16:55] <JaneMarple9> or to be sent to azkaban smile [16:55] <futureweasley> LIVESSSSSS [16:55] <DumbleDebbie> live [16:55] <ltbrave23> i think that harry will live [16:55] <cbm> LIVE happily ever after [16:55] <SoonerGryffindor> present tense [16:55] <dumbleydore18> die [16:55] <SillyPutty> I hope he lives but everyone else thinks he dies [16:55] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Boy Who lives [16:55] <MirandaV> He lives [16:55] <nympheart> Harry will live and have those twelve kids with Ginny [16:55] <Aislinn> the boy who LIVES [16:55] <ProngsPatronus> I hope, pray, and believe that Harry will live [16:55] <Evreka> 1) I want the ending Jo saw 17 years ago [16:55] <JaneMarple9> the Boy who LIVES!!!!!!!!!! [16:55] <SoonerGryffindor> actually. The Man who Lives [16:55] <Evreka> 2) I want Harry to LIVE [16:55] <JaneMarple9> Harry livvvvvvvveeeeeeeesssssssss w00t2 [16:55] <Narya> I think that Harry might be the boy who lives, but I'm still on the fence as to whether he dies or not [16:55] <DumbleDebbie> yes Evreka, me too [16:55] <nympheart> nice catch sooner [16:55] <DumbleDebbie> on both points [16:55] <Evreka> 3-300 ) I want Harry to LIVE! [16:55] <Pellinore> He'll live but I'd be supprised if the Trio + Ginny all do. [16:55] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, the boy who lived, and the mans who lives and thrives [16:55] <Ravenclaws_Heir> In all honestly...I just can't see her killing Harry. He CAN'T die [16:56] <Ravenclaws_Heir> good point, sooner [16:56] <MrMcGonagall> He will die. I prefer to be a pessimist on this one so that I'm either pleasantly surprised or I'm prepared for the worst. [16:56] <SoonerGryffindor> noooo [16:56] <Narya> There is no "can't" with JKR, though [16:56] * SoonerGryffindor glares at Mr M [16:56] <Aislinn> I can't bear it [16:56] <SillyPutty> needs to go into hiding to have a normal life for once [16:56] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [16:56] <cbm> I just can't see her going through all of this and then killing him in the end [16:56] <dumbleydore18> I dont want harry to die...but i think he will. It all comes back to the Mr. Blood thing. While Mr. Blood will affect Voldy on purpose I think it will do something to Harry without harry realising it and will die along with him. [16:56] <SillyPutty> i can [16:56] <Aislinn> It will be bad enough to lose a twin, I can't lose Harry too sad [16:56] <Ravenclaws_Heir> That's no way to live, Mr.M! [16:56] <MrMcGonagall> My fellow CB mods are ready to kill me. [16:56] <MirandaV> Yes, he will be the MAN who lives with Ginny and 3 million kids, or however many smile [16:56] <Narya> I can see that Mr McG [16:56] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, cbm [16:56] * JaneMarple9 covers her eats smile [16:56] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [16:56] <DumbleDebbie> if he dies I'll jjust live in denial that he's really gone [16:56] <Pellinore> Maybe Jo was blackmailed by a rabid H/Hr shipper and Ginny and Ron both die so H/Hr can get together after 7... [16:56] <ltbrave23> harry will live to see a wizarding world without lv in it [16:56] <Aislinn> I can't either, cbm [16:56] <Evreka> that's a point - prepairing for the worst Mr M [16:57] <JaneMarple9> not quite Mr McGonagall! [16:57] <MirandaV> Ooooh, what are you eating Jane? [16:57] <futureweasley> only because MrMcG has been talking about Harry's demise since the beginning of the chat!! [16:57] <Aislinn> I just don't see it happening [16:57] <ProngsPatronus> I think Harry HAS to live--because love must have a reward [16:57] <Narya> I'll be willing to bet that JKR would sacrifice Harry - if she deems it necessary [16:57] <Evreka> I'll have to do that too... I'll be afraid to finnish this book [16:57] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Me too, DD. Like I did with Dumbledore until JKR squashed my hopes. [16:57] <JaneMarple9> biggrin eats biggrin that was ears biggrin [16:57] <MirandaV> If he dies I will be skipping the last few chapters of Book 7 for the rest of my life [16:57] <JaneMarple9> or it was supposed too! [16:57] <Aislinn> yes, prongs [16:57] <MirandaV> so that I can live in blissful igonorance...after I erase it from my mind from the first reading [16:57] <dumbleydore18> I have to do this....Harry is Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [16:57] <Narya> For once, PP, I disagree with you [16:58] <SillyPutty> I know what I want but either way - I don't think either one is offensive to me [16:58] <MirandaV> I figured...it was funny [16:58] <SoonerGryffindor> If Harry dies, I have no idea how I will be able to handle it [16:58] <Aislinn> this isn't a tragedy ultimately - love overcomes evil, for the time being [16:58] <Evreka> Yes Prongs - let's hope Jo thinks so too [16:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> lol Miranda. [16:58] <SillyPutty> he lives - he lives... he dies - he dies... [16:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree with Prongs [16:58] <JaneMarple9> Exactly Dumbley , my fence buddie biggrin [16:58] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry is like my son [16:58] <dumbleydore18> we haven't mentioned Dobby!!!!!!!!!!! what about DObby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:58] <SillyPutty> no matter what it will be important to the story [16:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Silly Putty, do you need some room on the fence? [16:58] <Evreka> Me neither Sooner... [16:58] <futureweasley> maybe he will half-live, right HarryFreak? [16:58] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Sooner, that's why I'm thinking denial is a good road wink [16:58] *** bubblehead has joined #lounge [16:58] <SillyPutty> sure [16:58] <dumbleydore18> Doby is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [16:58] <ProngsPatronus> why, Narya? [16:58] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Agreed, DD [16:58] <JaneMarple9> nor me sooner - lots of unhappy readers if harry dies [16:58] <dumbleydore18> Dobby* [16:59] <MirandaV> I don't have a son yet, but Harry is my adopted one....no dying [16:59] <ltbrave23> dobby will live! [16:59] <SillyPutty> she can't write the story to make readers happy... [16:59] <Evreka> Debbie - that won't help... [16:59] <Narya> Because there is no "must" with JKR - she has proven that time and time again [16:59] <dumbleydore18> (future why was there no question about Dobby?????) [16:59] <bubblehead> Harry should live in my opinion [16:59] <DumbleDebbie> lol Evreka [16:59] <cbm> Harry will live and Dobby will be his elf! [16:59] <Narya> She took DD away [16:59] <JaneMarple9> all the characters I consider my family - apart from Voldie biggrin [16:59] <MirandaV> Sure she can Silly...cause we will pretend that she can [16:59] <Ravenclaws_Heir> I agree, sillyputty. But it would be too cruel to kill Harry [16:59] <SillyPutty> paid elf [16:59] <nympheart> agreed cbm! [16:59] <Narya> She can do the same to Harry [16:59] <Aislinn> it's the end of the story Narya [16:59] <bubblehead> he 's the hero [16:59] <SillyPutty> it would but... can he ever have a normal life in the end if he lives? [16:59] <Pellinore> and Bella! unless you have a crazzy aunt Jane ;o [16:59] <ltbrave23> what purpose would harry's death serve though? [16:59] <DumbleDebbie> yes, she could Narya [16:59] <SillyPutty> will he ever have peace? [16:59] <cbm> She took DD away because the hero has to go on alone [17:00] <Narya> We'll see [17:00] <ltbrave23> exactly cbm [17:00] <futureweasley> great chat gus [17:00] <DumbleDebbie> saving the world, ltbrave [17:00] <SillyPutty> will he always been called upon for help in the end... [17:00] <futureweasley> *guys [17:00] <SoonerGryffindor> Here is my honest opinion. I cannot imaging that Jo would have envisioned him al these years ago, give hiim the crappy life that she did. Do all of the things to him that she did, only to have him die at the end [17:00] <JaneMarple9> biggrin Ok Pellinore and Bella! [17:00] <Narya> The hero dies too, in stories [17:00] <Ravenclaws_Heir> yes, cbm [17:00] <Evreka> yeah , [17:00] <futureweasley> thanks for coming...we'll see you next week! [17:00] <bubblehead> I agree sooner [17:00] <Pellinore> Been fun hugs smile [17:00] <Aislinn> agreed sooner [17:00] <JaneMarple9> /me ignoring Nayra! [17:00] <MirandaV> *sticking her fingers and her eyes and humming so that she can't hear the people saying Harry's going to die* [17:00] <ltbrave23> well i meant other than that debbie, i don't think his death will be required to defeat lv [17:00] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [17:00] <SillyPutty> hence why I would rather everyone thinks he died... and he goes into hiding [17:00] * futureweasley group hugs the chatters [17:00] <Evreka> not always, not the good ones wink [17:00] * nympheart loves snow more than ever [17:00] <MrMcGonagall> Greater love hath no man than this . . . [17:00] <cbm> I agree 100% sooner, and that is what scares me, I am wrong quite a bit [17:00] *** Pellinore has quit [Bye] [17:00] <Ravenclaws_Heir> aww, it's over? *sulks because I have to go back to my real life now* [17:00] <Narya> Possible, Sooner - but we'll see [17:00] <dumbleydore18> hug for everyone!!!!!! [17:00] * JaneMarple9 prepares to be hugged to death [17:00] <SillyPutty> under the name Albus Black and becomes the seeker for the Endland Quidditch team [17:01] <ProngsPatronus> it is not because I want to be happy that I they are going by the prophecy, one will livethink he will live--if [17:01] <nympheart> stop MrM! [17:01] <Joyhawk2121> Bye everyone [17:01] <futureweasley> goodbye all [17:01] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, everyone! [17:01] <Evreka> bye everyone!! [17:01] <bubblehead> bye everyone [17:01] <JaneMarple9> hug every single Corner Boother hug [17:01] <nympheart> bye! [17:01] <Narya> Bye all [17:01] <SoonerGryffindor> bye veryone. Thanks for the wonderful chat [17:01] <Evreka> (group) [17:01] <CarpeDiem> Bye all thanks CB Mods! [17:01] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Bye guys! [17:01] *** nympheart left #lounge [] [17:01] <cbm> bye, have a great day biggrin [17:01] *** SillyPutty has quit [Bye] [17:01] *** cbm has quit [Bye] [17:01] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry it was so depressing [17:01] *** Narya has quit [Bye] [17:01] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [17:01] <ltbrave23> bye everyone [17:01] <MirandaV> Well.... :hugs: I'm being bugged about dinner....apparenty my husband has no arms [17:01] *** bubblehead has quit [Bye] [17:01] <JaneMarple9> gathering [17:01] <dumbleydore18> this chat has been the best. This is the best P3 chat ever!!!!!!!!! [17:01] <Evreka> thanks for the chat [17:01] <futureweasley> gotta close up shop...time to go guys! See you next week [17:02] <Ravenclaws_Heir> Yes, thanks mods for the great chat! [17:02] <dumbleydore18> bye! [17:02] <MirandaV> bye all [17:02] *** ltbrave23 left #lounge [] [17:02] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [17:02] *** MirandaV has quit [Bye] [17:02] *** Ravenclaws_Heir left #lounge [] [17:02] <futureweasley> thanks again! [17:02] <Evreka> Whoever wrote the questions did a marvellous job!! biggrin [17:02] <ph63915> night all [17:02] <ProngsPatronus> *sigh* over so soon... [17:02] <JaneMarple9> bye1 to all everyone [17:02] *** Joyhawk2121 has quit [Bye] [17:02] *** ph63915 left #lounge [] [17:02] <Evreka> bye --------------------  To listen and share great filks, check out Swishandfilk.com New stuff: Nina's Piece of Me, MJ's Return to Forever & my Now We'll See |
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