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Post-Prince Predictions Chat: hp7.com, Chapter on “Hogwarts, A Future?” March 25, 2007 Today’s Chat Moderators Were: Aislinn, cloudpic, Expelliarmas, fawkes28, futureweasley, Mr. McGonagall, Poet, and SoonerGryffindor [15:00] <MrMcGonagall> The Reading Group Chat is now concluding, but please feel free to remain in the Booth for the Post-Prince Predictions chat on Aislinn’s HP Seven essay on “Hogwarts, A Future?” Questions will begin at a quarter past the hour. [15:00] <JaneMarple9> wheeeeeeeeee biggrin [15:00] <fawkes28> so now we get to just chat and shoot the breeze smile [15:01] <Aislinn> thanks for the great discussion on the OotP chapters, folks! [15:01] <SillyPutty> woot! [15:01] <Love4Fawkes> So sorry, but I can't stay for the next chat. sad I'm sure it will be a great chat. Aislinn's essay is great. everyone enjoy!! [15:01] <MagicalKreacher> Well this was a fun first Corner booth RG chat experience [15:01] <mollywobbles23> woo-hoo! [15:01] <JaneMarple9> this is why I love the booth! [15:01] <Aislinn> we're glad you joined us, MK [15:01] <Love4Fawkes> Hope to see you around more magicalkreacher [15:01] <VBug119> Thanks for the great chat! I wish I could stay for the next one, but I have to go. [15:01] <Love4Fawkes> bye everyone [15:01] <MagicalKreacher> I can't stay either : it's already 9 PM here and I haven't had dinner yet [15:01] <JaneMarple9> and it isn't over yet MagicalKreacher! [15:01] *** thewhitetomb has quit [Bye] [15:01] *** animaguscow left #lounge [] [15:01] <MagicalKreacher> I will certainly be back! It's great in here [15:02] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [15:02] <fawkes28> it was good to have you, MK [15:02] <JaneMarple9> another 2 hours of fun! [15:02] <Aislinn> we'll see you soon, then smile [15:02] *** sdcurtis has quit [Bye] [15:02] *** VBug119 left #lounge [] [15:02] <MagicalKreacher> Bye everybody and see you soon here again! Thank you so much again [15:02] *** MagicalKreacher has quit [Bye] [15:02] <fawkes28> So what does everyone think of the 784 pages? [15:03] *** JMlovesHP has joined #lounge [15:03] <JaneMarple9> happy! [15:03] <JaneMarple9> Although I still wanted 1000 pages - at least! [15:03] <fawkes28> me too, Jane [15:03] <fawkes28> i was thinking it would be longer - i dont know how she is going to wrap everything up in only 784 pages [15:04] <JaneMarple9> i still think i will need a wheelbarrow to bring it home in w00t2 [15:04] <Aislinn> hi JMlovesHP [15:04] *** Snuffles changed the topic to: P3 Chat - Hogwarts, A Future? (HP Seven essay by Aislinn) (MrMcGonagall) [15:04] <fawkes28> well, i won't be able to do that since i am going overseas [15:04] <SillyPutty> bye - need to go make breakfast [15:04] *** SillyPutty has quit [Bye] [15:04] <JaneMarple9> lets see page 1 of DH - Lord Voldemort dies! What a start! smile [15:04] <fawkes28> hahaha [15:05] <JaneMarple9> too easy? smile [15:05] <fawkes28> well, now that would be a bit boring [15:05] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [15:05] <dumbleydore18> I want the book to be so long that lexicon can finish their site (this was mentioned on WeasleyCast's mini-cast by Sooner as something I told her, I am that "shawna" she mentioned) lol [15:05] <MrMcGonagall> Unless the real conflict is Snape. LOL [15:05] <dumbleydore18> I have to go read the essay we are talking about BRB [15:05] <fawkes28> oh Mr. M - let's not start that topic wink [15:05] *** JulianBH has joined #lounge [15:06] <JMlovesHP> hey everyone! [15:06] *** JMlovesHP left #lounge [] [15:06] <JulianBH> hi [15:06] *** NYBookworm has quit [Bye] [15:06] <fawkes28> hi JulianBH [15:07] <fawkes28> We are going to be chatting about Aislinn's essay on Hogwarts - woo hoo [15:08] <JaneMarple9> yeah [15:08] <fawkes28> it is such a great topic smile [15:10] <fawkes28> Jane, I think I will join you yeah [15:10] <JaneMarple9> smile [15:10] <MrMcGonagall> This is a great topic. Unfortunately, I'll have to leave the chat half an hour early. I'm a sad panda. [15:10] <mollywobbles23> [15:10] <mollywobbles23> oops [15:11] <fawkes28> awww Mr. M [15:11] <mollywobbles23> hehe, "sad panda." [15:11] * fawkes28 gives Mr. M an early group hug [15:11] <MrMcGonagall> But, I was able to be here for the whole RG chat, which was a plus. [15:11] <dumbleydore18> woo! very good essay! [15:12] <dumbleydore18> can't wait! [15:12] <JaneMarple9> its a excellent essay! [15:12] <fawkes28> we'll start at quarter after [15:13] *** Poet has joined #lounge [15:13] * mollywobbles23 whistles Harlme Globetrotters theme. [15:13] <mollywobbles23> Harlem* [15:13] <fawkes28> hey poet [15:13] <Poet> hey [15:14] <JaneMarple9> welcome back poet! [15:14] <Poet> Hmm, the lag monster has got me again [15:14] *** antonin has joined #lounge [15:14] <Poet> !botsnack [15:14] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat [15:14] <antonin> about to start? [15:14] <Expelliarmas> Snuffles needs to be walked [15:14] <fawkes28> good to feed snuffles [15:14] <Expelliarmas> in another minute, antonin [15:14] * JaneMarple9 strokes Snuffles [15:14] *** ProngsPatronus has joined #lounge [[15:15] <Expelliarmas> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [15:15] <Expelliarmas> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the /top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod. [15:15] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [15:15] <Expelliarmas> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [15:15] *** antonin has joined #lounge [15:15] <Expelliarmas> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [15:15] <Expelliarmas> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [15:15] <fawkes28> Each week our P3 chats are discussing one of the chapters from Leaky’s new project: HarryPotterSeven.com, which can be found at this website: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:bookseven [15:16] <fawkes28> Today we will be discussing Aislinn's chapter "Hogwarts, a Future?" as we explore the wonderful building where Harry's magical education takes place. [15:16] <fawkes28> At the end of HBP, Harry informs Ron and Hermione that he will not be returning to Hogwarts for his 7th year of magical education.... or will he? [15:16] <fawkes28> Aislinn's chapter can be found here: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:bookseven/hogwarts [15:16] <fawkes28> Hogwarts was built more than 1000 years ago by the 4 founders and has been noted by Jo to have changed quite a bit during that time. What are some of the changes that the castle has made? [15:16] <Poet> I assume plumbing [15:17] <Poet> Though it could have been around 1000 years ago. Nicer bathrooms/ [15:17] <ProngsPatronus> not necessarily--but it may have been upgraded! [15:17] <fawkes28> i wonder how much they had to do since they use magic [15:17] <mollywobbles23> yeah plumbing... [15:17] <JaneMarple9> more staircases? [15:17] <JulianBH> added security between OotP and HPB [15:17] <Poet> The kitchens have likely undergone updates [15:17] <antonin> lol [15:17] <mollywobbles23> more dorms? [15:17] <JaneMarple9> plumbing obviously [15:17] *** danielk has joined #lounge [15:17] <Poet> The addition of Quidditch facilities [15:17] <ProngsPatronus> I hope so, poet! [15:17] <fawkes28> i am sure they have changed some of the rooms or maybe even added more rooms [15:17] <dumbleydore18> new teachers, new rules, new mind sets [15:17] <antonin> hi danielk! [15:17] <danielk> hi [15:18] <JaneMarple9> security - great point [15:18] <Expelliarmas> I'm sure the use of magic by the teachers to modify and amplify the castle is better than that used by the weasleys with their burrow [15:18] <Poet> More tunnels to Hogsmeade [15:18] <fawkes28> it probably evolved over time with the needs of the students and teachers as well as what was going on in the outside world [15:18] <JulianBH> security may be the only change ever discussed in the book [15:18] <danielk> is the topic what changes will be made at hogwarts for book 7? [15:18] <MrMcGonagall> Actually, the Quidditch pitch must have been an addition. [15:18] <Expelliarmas> the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack was an addition [15:18] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:18] <JulianBH> not to say that it was the only one [15:18] *** antonin has quit [Bye] [15:18] <ProngsPatronus> as was the Whomping Willow [15:19] <Expelliarmas> no, danielk, it's Hogwarts ... A Future, a discussion on Aislinn's essay [15:19] *** danielk has quit [Bye] [15:19] <fawkes28> Do you think that (presuming we see Hogwarts again) Hogwarts is going to make any changes to accomodate events in Deathly Hallows? [15:20] <ProngsPatronus> we know the furniture has changed--the vanishing Cabinet wound up in the RoR, along with bunches of other stuff [15:20] <Expelliarmas> someone may need to do an inventory of what's in the castle [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its interesting that the castle is always adapting itself [15:20] <dumbleydore18> extra extra extra security [15:20] <fawkes28> i am sure that some more measures will be taken to insure the safety of its students [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> like how it sealed off the headmasters office to Umbridge [15:20] <dumbleydore18> more people will come togther and unite [15:20] <JaneMarple9> i am thinking it will be much more secure [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder if it will do something to help protect the students [15:20] <Poet> No, I don't see the school itself changing much. Maybe the windows will get smaller? Maybe there will be more paintings serving as guards? [15:20] <Expelliarmas> they might need to check certain students for dark marks [15:20] <fawkes28> that is interesting, poet [15:21] <JaneMarple9> and the houses will unite more - even the slytherins :-o [15:21] <dumbleydore18> thats a thought expie [15:21] <Poet> Some of the exits in and out of the building may close themselves off - like the lake entrance [15:21] <fawkes28> i wonder if the portraits will unit to help protect hogwarts [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I was thinking that it would be nice if there was a barrier that prevented those with dark marks from entering the grounds [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be a nice protectin [15:21] <Poet> I love that idea Sooner [15:21] <fawkes28> the lake itself could perhaps help with the protection [15:21] <Expelliarmas> well, the DEs got into Hogwarts through the help of a student [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> squiddy! [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> can be the new watch dog [15:21] <dumbleydore18> portraits can't do anything but be portraits can they? [15:22] <Expelliarmas> it wasn't because there weren't enough protections about the castle [15:22] <JaneMarple9> or how about Fuffly? [15:22] <ProngsPatronus> I expect the vanishing Cabinet will wind up as kindling [15:22] <JaneMarple9> he'sgot three heads pretty good watch dog [15:22] <fawkes28> well, they are good for being look outs, dd18 [15:22] <Poet> Draco borrowed some ideas from the DA. I love the idea that McGonagall might learn from the DE putting up a barrier that only they could pass through. [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, Fluffy is somewhere in the forest, isnt he? [15:22] <dumbleydore18> that's true fawkes [15:22] <JaneMarple9> yes the vanishing cabinet will - well....disappear biggrin [15:22] <Poet> Yeah Sooner [15:22] <ProngsPatronus> i agree, poet [15:23] <Poet> I'm hoping they station dragons outside Hogwarts [15:23] <dumbleydore18> I was like uhhh portraits can't fight...they can't leap out at enemies lol it would be funny... [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be cool [15:23] <JaneMarple9> oh that would thrill Hagrid! [15:23] <Expelliarmas> the danger at Hogwarts came from within [15:23] <mollywobbles23> Vanishing Cabinet is out. [15:23] <fawkes28> that would be great, poet [15:23] <ProngsPatronus> thereby fulfilling Hagrid's dreams [15:23] <Aislinn> there were a lot of protections on the castle already, and although some of them were DD's and thus gone, I think there are still many in place [15:23] <fawkes28> then it would give Charlie more of a role to play [15:23] <JaneMarple9> norbert as head dragon biggrin [15:23] <dumbleydore18> dragons are too dangerous though... [15:23] <fawkes28> i think there are still some in place too, Aislinn [15:24] <Expelliarmas> I don't know if they are necessarily gone, Aislinn; look at Mrs. Black's anti-removal spells [15:24] <dumbleydore18> Dragon's could be air patrol... [15:24] <JaneMarple9> dangerous dumbley? What makes you say that? biggrin [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> still, you have to wonder how the castle gave itself indoor plumbing [15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> that is pretty impressive [15:24] <Aislinn> well, he took some of them off when he and Harry flew back in, expie [15:24] <dumbleydore18> dragons would be a good security but I don't see parents taking their children to a dragon infested school [15:25] <Expelliarmas> thestrals would serve as better aerial lookouts [15:25] <ProngsPatronus> Aurors, maybe [15:25] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid has them trained [15:25] <fawkes28> Hogwarts can only reopen if the board of govenors agree that it can remain open. What are your thoughts on this? [15:25] *** MagicalKreacher has joined #lounge [15:25] <Poet> I think they' [15:25] <Expelliarmas> welcome to your 2nd CB chat, MK [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> my first thought is that I am glad Lucius is in jail [15:25] <JaneMarple9> it could be in doubt [15:25] <MagicalKreacher> And I'm back after a quick meal... Thanks Expie! [15:25] <Poet> I think they'll let it reopen [15:25] <ProngsPatronus> depends if any more of them had children there [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> so he cannot influence them [15:25] <Aislinn> As I said in the chapter, I believe that they will re-open the school [15:25] <dumbleydore18> yes sooner! [15:25] <JaneMarple9> especailly seeming Fudge might influence the committee [15:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think it makes sense that board of governors would make the decision, although they don't exactly have a history of wise decision-making. [15:26] <ProngsPatronus> oh, I agree, Aislinn [15:26] <Poet> But certain things would havet to be eliminated - Quidditch, trips to Hogsmeade.... [15:26] <fawkes28> i think they need to reopen the school - even if they only get a handful of students [15:26] <Aislinn> at some point, they have to recognize that life must go on, despite the presence of LV [15:26] <Aislinn> the school was open the last time he was in power [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with Aislinn that the school will open as well. I also think that people like Malfoy not in contol of the govenors makes this more likely [15:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think it will re-open with far fewer students than usual. [15:26] <ProngsPatronus> it was open during VoldWar I [15:26] <fawkes28> well, Lucius isn't on it anymore so at least there is some hope for it being open again [15:26] <Poet> Care of Magical Creatures may have to be cut, and maybe they'd need to set up a different way to get to the Greenhouses [15:26] <ProngsPatronus> why wouldn't it open now? [15:26] <JaneMarple9> well jo said no quidditch in book 7 [15:26] <MagicalKreacher> Plus school is elementary for a wizard in order to train and be ready if something happens [15:26] <Aislinn> there will probably be some that won't come back, that's true, Mr M [15:26] <fawkes28> well, i don't think it is safe to play quidditch [15:27] <Expelliarmas> there's no reason for it not to open [15:27] <JaneMarple9> so quidditch doesn't play a part [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, it has not officially closed [15:27] <fawkes28> but inside the castle they will be much safer [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> so it just needs to stay open, no re-open [15:27] <JaneMarple9> oh i am sure it will be open! [15:27] <Aislinn> that's true, sooner [15:27] <dumbleydore18> umm...there are wizards that want to be taught magic, so if there are people who want to learn I don't see why they wouldn't close it. Life has to move on, they can't be living in fear all the time. [15:27] <Poet> I think the quotes Aislinn included in her essay are 99.9% assurity of the school being open again [15:27] <mollywobbles23> Barring something horrific, I think it will open again. [15:28] <fawkes28> yes, dd18 - life does have to move on [15:28] <Expelliarmas> I think it would reopen even if it were just to teach one willing student [15:28] <Aislinn> yes, Poet, I just can't see Jo making statements like she did, if she didn't mean to have the school open [15:28] <ProngsPatronus> besides, it is flying in the face of evil--and I cannot see McGonagall not doing that [15:28] <fawkes28> hiding in fear isn't always the best way to live - school needs to continue [15:28] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [15:28] <Aislinn> it seems that was the decision the teachers reached at the end of HBP, definitely expie [15:28] <Expelliarmas> hiding in fear is not living [15:28] <Aislinn> hi ltbrave23 [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that most kids are safer there than in their own homes [15:29] <JaneMarple9> students need to be taught about how to defend themselvbes from voldie [15:29] <ltbrave23> hey all [15:29] <ProngsPatronus> especially from fenrir [15:29] <fawkes28> In a 2005 interview, Jo said that there would be a new DADA teacher for Harry's 7th year. How do you interpret this quote and does this information lead to you think that Hogwarts will stay open? [15:29] <Poet> I think the school governors will come to the same conclusion as the teachers [15:29] <Aislinn> I agree sooner [15:29] <JaneMarple9> of course they are sooner - couldn't had put it better [15:29] <ltbrave23> i think the school will stay open [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that this quote does say quite a bit [15:29] <JaneMarple9> well new DADA teacher - that means that they will teach at hogwarts [15:29] <MagicalKreacher> The quote does let me believe it must reopen... Can't see who it will be though. I can't imagine Harry doing it (he's going to go off horcrux hunting) [15:29] <Expelliarmas> i think the school will reopen, but that won't be *Harry's* DADA teacher [15:29] <Aislinn> I don't think there would be a need to write a new DADA teacher in, if the school were not going to be open [15:29] <Poet> Yes, I think when she said that "obviously they'll have to be a new one"\ - she knows the school will be open and she knows who will teach DADA [15:30] <ltbrave23> it's still a safe haven despite dd's death [15:30] <ProngsPatronus> well, if there is to be a new teacher, then there has to be someone to teach, and somewhere to teach--so that leads me to believe Hogwarts will open [15:30] <fawkes28> i agree, expie [15:30] <JaneMarple9> seems quite logical to me it will be open [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, the fact that there s a 7th DADA teacher planned pretty much tells me that its going to stay open [15:30] <dumbleydore18> she said DADA for Harry's 7th year meaning he's going back to school, it would be different if Jo said Hermione's 7th year. So my guess is that Hogwarts will remain open [15:30] <fawkes28> Jo isnt introducing new characters so it has to be someone that we know [15:31] <ProngsPatronus> besides--the bottom line is that there was a Hogwarts way before our boy Harry decided to go there--and will be, whether he decides to go or not [15:31] <Expelliarmas> exactly P2 [15:31] <Aislinn> very true, Prongs [15:31] <fawkes28> yes, prongs [15:31] <MagicalKreacher> Well fawkes : couldn't she include some new but not-important-to-the-plat characters? It seems radical to now not one single new person will appear... [15:31] <Poet> And Jo has answered the 7 books question more than once with something like, "yes there will be one book for each year of school..." [15:31] <JaneMarple9> yes poet [15:31] <MagicalKreacher> Indeed poet [15:31] <Aislinn> it was open, presumably, in the time of Grindelwald, and other times when evil rose to power [15:31] <fawkes28> yes, she could, MK [15:32] <JaneMarple9> harry said he's not going back there - but it's jo who writes the books! if she wants him to go back - he has too! biggrin [15:32] <mollywobbles23> well, yeah. [15:32] <Expelliarmas> good point, Jane [15:32] <fawkes28> Jo also told Katie Couric in 2005 that she would savor her final journey on the Hogwarts Express, which also seems to point to the school reopening. Again, what is your interpretation of this quote and does this information lead you to think that Hogwarts will stay open? [15:32] <MagicalKreacher> I would find it difficult to think that HArry's entire year is going to be out of Hogwarts [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this quote in combination with the first one, is pretty definitive [15:33] <Poet> It would be very sad to not see Hogwarts for the final book. Jo loves it as much as we do [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I like how Aislinn chose both of these to use in her chapter as proof [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> AP classes for Harry! [15:33] <MagicalKreacher> Hogwarts isn't closing as far as I read Jo's quotes [15:33] <JaneMarple9> well it seems to indicate that hogwarts is open and harry's going there [15:33] *** awlaisis has joined #lounge [15:33] <JaneMarple9> remind me PP - AP?? [15:33] <ltbrave23> i agree jane i think harry will go back [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> and the fact that both of these quotes are very recent makes me think she is not going to change her mind on that [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> advanced classes more like college courses [15:33] <MagicalKreacher> Anti-Potter classes! AP :-P [15:33] <JaneMarple9> right [15:33] <fawkes28> yes, sooner - Jo quotes are nice evidence of things to come in DH [15:34] <ProngsPatronus> more freedom [15:34] <Poet> AP = advanced placement courses [15:34] <Aislinn> that was one of the things that I found compelling, sooner - if it was only quotes from back at the beginning of the series, it could be that Jo changed her mind, but these were both after the release of HBP [15:34] <JaneMarple9> could had been apparition smile [15:34] <awlaisis> hello..i'm late. whats the question [15:34] <MagicalKreacher> Sad there will be no Quidditch though. HArry doesn't seem to be able to keep away from his broom [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> right, because there are many more quotes, but some of them are from much earlier [15:34] <JaneMarple9> oh i'm not sad - quidditch is boring for me! [15:35] <Aislinn> yes, there are others from back in 1999 - I think they are still viable, but I understand if some people believe they may be misleading [15:35] <MagicalKreacher> Jane : you're a true Hermione! [15:35] <Poet> Sad, but not surprising that even with the school open there'd be no Quidditch. It is one of Jo's least favorite things to write. [15:35] <ProngsPatronus> besides--Harry may change his mind [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that there will be no quidditch because of the war going on [15:35] <fawkes28> yes, because they were recent quotes - i think she still is holding them true - but Jo has every right to change her mine [15:35] <dumbleydore18> I think Harry will be a Gred and Forge...leave school early [15:35] <Poet> I agree SoonerGryffindor [15:35] <JaneMarple9> harry will still be able to fly without quidditch I think! [15:35] <fawkes28> it is such a great series that even sometimes she is changes the twists and turns [15:35] <MagicalKreacher> DD18 : I think Harry will leave early too [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> no quidditch is an indicator of how serious things are going to be [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> not that Hogwarts wont stay open [15:36] <ProngsPatronus> well, we have precedent for the Quidditch games being cancelled [15:36] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Sooner, that's the scary part... No place will be safe and everybody will have so much on their mind. [15:36] <fawkes28> Its one thing for Hogwarts to stay open, but quite another for Harry to actually attend. Is it possible to have Hogwarts play a prominent role in DH, yet Harry not attend? [15:36] <ProngsPatronus> yes [15:36] <MrMcGonagall> Yes. [15:36] <JaneMarple9> perhaps [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I doubt it [15:36] <MagicalKreacher> Not to attend at all : I doubt it [15:36] <ltbrave23> i don't think so [15:36] <Aislinn> not to me smile [15:36] <Poet> Sure. Dumbledore was able to leave the castle a lot to go on quests. Harry will need to do research just like DD did. [15:37] <Expelliarmas> yes, I can see Hogwarts playing an important role: LV covets the school [15:37] <JaneMarple9> might be a prominient role for ginny and luna - too young to leave school [15:37] <Poet> So there will be times when Harry has no leads [15:37] *** mollywobbles23 has quit [Bye] [15:37] <MagicalKreacher> Poet : I think there will be some coming and going too for HArry [15:37] <fawkes28> i dont think Hogwarts will play a primary role - at least as big of a role that it has played in the past [15:37] <JaneMarple9> while the trio go off exploring [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Aislinn makes a very good point that very few chapters have been written outside of Harry's POV [15:37] <Aislinn> I think that in order for the school to play a primary role, Harry has to be there to some degree [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> for Hogwarts to be prominent at all, he wil need to be there [15:37] <MrMcGonagall> I think he will be a student, but he's going to be coming and going quite a bit. good thing he has all those secret passages! [15:37] <Aislinn> exactly sooner [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Mr M, I think he will be going in and out a lot [15:37] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M - I thiink he will come and go like DD [15:37] <JaneMarple9> yes Mr Mcg! the mauraders map will be very handy! [15:38] <awlaisis> I think we'll follow harry mostly... but maybe Jo puts more chapters on other pov as well.. so it could. After reading this essay i really do believe so [15:38] <Poet> And Harry has elves that could go do some research for him ;) so he could attend classes in the meantime. It's a good way to keep LV from knowing what he is up to [15:38] <JaneMarple9> he'd be able to apparate this time - but not inside hogwarts [15:38] *** GranjoGranger has joined #lounge [15:38] <dumbleydore18> yes, Hogwarts will unite as one and will figure this out by the end, (this gives me shivers just thinking about it!) They will help Harry in any way they can. Oh man imagine 1.000 plus students and teachers helping fight and standing infront of the school with their wands at the ready...oh amazing! [15:38] <ProngsPatronus> he will have to come to some accomodation with the headmistress, though [15:39] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [15:39] <Poet> Harry knows how to get in and out of the castle very easily, so I have no doubt he could pull off being gone sometimes [15:39] <fawkes28> it would be nice for harry to be part of the school but also to go off and do his own things [15:39] <futureweasley> sorry I'm late [15:39] <dumbleydore18> I don't think McG will care, I'm sure she'll let Harry leave, she's pretty resonable. [15:39] <MagicalKreacher> McG will not be a huge obstalce I think : she has already showed at the end of OotP that she is going to help Harry through his school years to become an auror. She is not going to let Harry bend down to every rule. [15:39] <awlaisis> dumbley thats a powerful visual image... oh yeah, make it happen Jo! [15:39] <Poet> There are holidays and weekends as well where he can easily slip away [15:39] *** Greeneyes15 has joined #lounge [15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I know that a lot of people insist that he will not have enough time, but I think he will [15:39] <fawkes28> Harry will also be of age so she really can't do anything [15:39] <JaneMarple9> hey greeneyes [15:40] <Greeneyes15> hey everyone!!!! [15:40] <MagicalKreacher> Hi greeneyes! [15:40] <awlaisis> heya greeneyes [15:40] <fawkes28> Back in 1999, Jo was quoted as saying that 'there will be 7 years of wizarding school and then Harry is a fully qualified wizard.' Do you interpret this to mean that Harry will be returning to Hogwarts for his 7th year? [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> I don't know--I think he may have to let her in on the secret, because she could help cover for him [15:40] <JaneMarple9> of course it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this is very telling [15:40] <MagicalKreacher> I interpret this as "Harry will live" but that was far back, before she wrote DH. Alas! [15:40] <fawkes28> that was a long time ago that she said it [15:41] <Aislinn> We know that he has to accomplish his tasks this year, but from his perspective, he has no time limit in which to accomplish his task [15:41] <Greeneyes15> i don't know really... it seems that harry has so much to do already in this last book [15:41] <Poet> Yes. And if he survives, which I think he will, he and his friends will be glad to have completed 7 years of school so they can be assured of careers [15:41] <futureweasley> I think the story chronicals Harry's 7 years at school...I think he will be back for one last year of school [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I realize that is is from 99, but I think that Jo had the plan all along, and was freer with her earlier quotes than she has been for the last few years [15:41] *** Jekiramika has joined #lounge [15:41] <Aislinn> exactly, sooner! [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> well, there are the NEWTS, too--he needs to succeed at them if he is to be an Auror [15:41] <Aislinn> that is just how I feel about it as well [15:41] <fawkes28> he cannot possibly complete a full year of school and destroy all of the horcruxes unless he uses a time turner [15:41] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Sooner, she seems very careful since a few years [15:41] <awlaisis> she might have just used harry as an example that you need 7 years at HW to become fully qualified... but you never know. [15:41] <JaneMarple9> she's planned DH for years surely! [15:41] <Poet> 10 years ;) [15:42] <Poet> or more [15:42] <JaneMarple9> question - is it NEWTS year the seventh year? [15:42] <dumbleydore18> maybe because Harry wants to be an Auror that Tonks and MeM will teach Harry personally, like homeschooling in a way [15:42] <Aislinn> yes Jane [15:42] <Greeneyes15> but harry said that he wouldn't be returning to school didn't he? [15:42] <MagicalKreacher> Well I do hope she didn't change Harry's lot lately and taht she is sticking to her initial choice (live or die) [15:42] <Aislinn> he did say that, greeneyes [15:42] <fawkes28> oh yes she has always had the end in mind and that quote does not necessarily mean that he will be sitting in every single class that year [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> right fawkes [15:42] <Greeneyes15> so... i don't know... [15:43] <Poet> Harry has already had 1 year of NEWT level classes, though there are things that his 7th year (2nd year of NEWT level) can teach him, for sure [15:43] <MagicalKreacher> Harry's impulsive. He talks very easily but then again... he might not be on the Hogwart's express and still go to school afterwards, a bit late [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that we see Harry in actual classes less as the series goes on [15:43] <JaneMarple9> ah! Now can you see Hermione refusing to go to Hogwarts and missing exams like that? biggrin [15:43] <fawkes28> Harry seems to have his mind made up that he is not returning to school, yet it is not improbable to think he may change his mind. Is there anything Dumbledore possibly did ahead of time to make Harry change his mind and why would he want Harry back at school? [15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he would want Harry back for the protection aspect of it and I do think he knew ahead of time he would not be around [15:43] <Poet> A letter, like Aislinn mentioned, or a pensieve "letter" of advice from DD [15:43] <JaneMarple9> dumbledore may have put aside a letter for harry [15:43] <awlaisis> nice idea dumbley.. i've thought about that harry being auror thing too. [15:44] <futureweasley> yes, Aislinn points to the fact that DD uses letters to effectively communicate...I think that will come into play again [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant quite decide how he did it, but I think he either left a penseive memory, or letter [15:44] <fawkes28> well, maybe DD doesn't want him to be a full time student - however, i am sure he wrote him some kind of letter [15:44] <dumbleydore18> the pensieve I presume [15:44] *** ravenmoonglow has joined #lounge [15:44] <Aislinn> I think that Dd would recognize that the school is the best place to use as a base of operations during the Horcrux hunt [15:44] <MagicalKreacher> Dumbledore knows Hogwarts is a good hide-out and a good place to find answers and solutions... He'd want Harry there when Harry doesn't know where to go. This is his "home"! [15:44] <JaneMarple9> telling him how much hogwarts would help him find the Horcruxes [15:44] <GranjoGranger> I'm late and having trouble keeping up. Has anyone pointed out the obvious, that Harry does have a fuul month to get things started at GH and will maybe be led back to school. [15:44] <dumbleydore18> will cause Harry to go back [15:44] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Pensieve [15:44] <JaneMarple9> yes the pensieve [15:44] <Aislinn> yes MK [15:44] <Poet> DD may point out that Harry doesn't need to attend every class, but that Hogwarts is a great station from which he can launch his quests [15:44] <fawkes28> maybe DD left some protections for Harry at the school similar to what he did with the Dursley's [15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> yes ganjo, we will address that [15:44] <futureweasley> staying in school will be the most effective way to keep prying eyes away from what Harry is actually doing [15:44] <MagicalKreacher> Pensieve gets my vote too. Although I'd like a real old-fashion will [15:44] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [15:44] <JaneMarple9> that is going to be so so importent [15:44] <Aislinn> that is very true GranjoGranger [15:45] <Aislinn> events over the summer will impel him back to hogwarts, in my opinion [15:45] *** dumbleydore18 has joined #lounge [15:45] <fawkes28> Harry can be very stubborn but i think something will convince him to go back [15:45] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, Aislinn [15:45] <JaneMarple9> yes Aislinn [15:45] <dumbleydore18> argh! lag [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that since DD alone knew what was in store for Harry, he thought the situation over very carefully [15:45] <Aislinn> I agree sooner [15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> and he does seem to know how Harry is going to react a lot [15:45] <JaneMarple9> yes i think dumbledore will persuade him in some way [15:46] <ProngsPatronus> well, Harry is a lot like Dumbledore [15:46] <JaneMarple9> either dead dumbledore or Aberforth [15:46] <Aislinn> Dd had been preparing for the possibility of Harry going on without him since the beginning of HBP [15:46] <GranjoGranger> Well he does want to be an auror, and that is pretty demanding. I too think education and the School itself are way too important to just disintegrate. [15:46] *** Jekiramika has quit [Bye] [15:46] <Aislinn> It is quite likely that he would have left some sort of instructions and help in the event of his death [15:46] <fawkes28> i think he had to leave instructions or something [15:46] <Poet> Like Aislinn pointed out, Book 6 ended with them still at Hogwarts. There is time even before they head home to get a letter from DD - like if McGonagall comes across it in her office [15:47] <JaneMarple9> yes being a auror is harry's dream job [15:47] <Aislinn> or if there is a will [15:47] <Poet> yeah [15:47] <JaneMarple9> something to aim for [15:47] <MagicalKreacher> I'd like there to be a will [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I do have to say that it will be concern for Harry's task rather than his education that is going to be DD's primary concern [15:47] <fawkes28> yes, if he wants to be an auror then he needs to finish his education [15:47] <JaneMarple9> oh yes MK I want a will too [15:47] <MagicalKreacher> Harry has been a son to DD and a will would certainly put a certain official tone tot hat [15:47] <Poet> He at least needs to take his NEWT exams, and attending a few classes certainly would help [15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> there is always the chance that fawkes has his instuctions as well to deliver a message [15:47] <JaneMarple9> well not MY will yet (I hope!) but dumbledores will [15:47] <Poet> I love that idea SoonerGryffindor [15:47] <dumbleydore18> hahaha I have to say this ...if there is a will (meaning Dumbledore's)....there is a way (the way for Harry)... [15:48] <fawkes28> right sooner - perhaps when he comes of age or maybe sept. 1st [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> rght [15:48] <futureweasley> I hope fawkes delivers a letter...that would be very cool [15:48] <fawkes28> it didnt have to be right after DD's death [15:48] <JaneMarple9> nice idea sooner [15:48] *** Kneazly has joined #lounge [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it will be right before his bday [15:48] <MagicalKreacher> I wonder when and where we'll see Fawkes again btw [15:48] <fawkes28> Is it possible that Molly or someone else from the Order is capable of changing Harry's mind about returning to school and what could their reasons be? [15:48] <Aislinn> I think we will see Fawkes again, future [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> or an owl--like his letters from Hogawarts [15:48] <JaneMarple9> perhaps lupin? [15:48] *** cbm has joined #lounge [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> yes [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> Lupin [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that if Molly tries to talk him into it, it will be for he concern on his education [15:48] <Expelliarmas> I don't think molly will have that kind of influence on Harry [15:48] <cbm> Hi [15:48] <fawkes28> I think someone that he cares about as a family member will convince him to go back [15:49] <MagicalKreacher> Lupin is a good idea... [15:49] <JaneMarple9> harry really respects lupin [15:49] <fawkes28> hi cbm [15:49] *** JulianBH has quit [Bye] [15:49] <Aislinn> I think that Molly will be very interested in all of them finishing their education, but honestly I don't think she will be the deciding factor for Harry [15:49] <MagicalKreacher> Hi cbm! [15:49] <Greeneyes15> i like the Lupin idea [15:49] <JaneMarple9> and it is the last connection with James sad [15:49] <Aislinn> he will listen, but have his own ideas [15:49] <Aislinn> Hi cbm [15:49] *** MrMcGonagall has quit [Bye] [15:49] <Expelliarmas> It might depend on who is the next DADA instructor and whether Harry thinks he still has something to learn [15:49] <Greeneyes15> Yes jane [15:49] <ProngsPatronus> I think Molly is wedding mad right about now [15:49] <ravenmoonglow> McGonagall could persuade Harry to stay in school. He respects her. [15:49] <cbm> What is the ? [15:49] <MagicalKreacher> PP : indeed, the tiara and all [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I honestly think that Lupin might be the only one to talk Harry into it [15:49] <fawkes28> he knows that Molly cares about him but ultimately it will be his decision [15:49] <ProngsPatronus> I don't think she will have time to worry about harry's decision [15:49] <fawkes28> repeat of question: Is it possible that Molly or someone else from the Order is capable of changing Harry's mind about returning to school and what could their reasons be? [15:49] <Greeneyes15> i think so too sooner [15:50] <JaneMarple9> oooo the tiara w00t2 [15:50] <dumbleydore18> guys I'm getting too antsy! I need to get up and move around! I need to leave the chat, i've been sitting for 3 hours...lol...too long! Until next time all! [15:50] <fawkes28> bye dd18 [15:50] <MagicalKreacher> Bye bye DD18 [15:50] <cbm> thanks, I do not think so. [15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> bye dd18 [15:50] <Greeneyes15> See yas DD18!!!! bye1 [15:50] <dumbleydore18> bye guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:50] <JaneMarple9> take care dumbey! Big long chat today! [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> bye, dumbley [15:50] <Aislinn> I think that McGonagall may have information or something that might persuade Harry as well [15:50] <awlaisis> i think only something that will help him find horcruxes will make him go there... nothing else. [15:50] <awlaisis> bye dumbley! [15:50] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> yes, she was my second choice, Aislinn [15:50] <fawkes28> really - you think McG will convince him, Aislinn ? [15:51] <JaneMarple9> dumbley not dumbey biggrin [15:51] <Poet> krum was karkarkoff's favorite. I can see Hermione thinking he'd be a good one to get info from if he is the DADA teacher [15:51] <MagicalKreacher> I have always thought McGonagall still had a great part to play. Why all the silence around her? We must discover something or at least, she has to do something important [15:51] <cbm> I think it would not be McG, but something from DD [15:51] <JaneMarple9> hmmm krum [15:51] <Aislinn> I think that McG may have more influence than Molly on Harry, fawkes [15:51] <ProngsPatronus> all of these could have a factor [15:51] <JaneMarple9> Jo did say krum would reappear [15:51] <cbm> JKR said at least one DADA teacher will be female, so I think that would be the DH one [15:51] <ProngsPatronus> but we are forgetting Hermione! [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that as much as Harry respects McG, he is becoming more of an equal with her now [15:52] *** ravenmoonglow has quit [Bye] [15:52] <JaneMarple9> and McGonagall might be good at pursuading [15:52] <MagicalKreacher> Umbridge was female! [15:52] <Aislinn> Umbrigge was DADA, cbm [15:52] <cbm> thanks, I always forget her [15:52] <Expelliarmas> Umbridge was a lot of things, but she was no teacher [15:52] <Aislinn> what do you mean, Prongs? [15:52] <MagicalKreacher> Officially, she was. Alas! [15:52] <fawkes28> Is it possible that any of Harry's enemies might do something that changes his mind about returning back to school and what could that be? [15:52] <Aislinn> she's one that I wish I could forget, cbm laugh [15:52] <ProngsPatronus> Hermione may have a say in changing his mind [15:53] <JaneMarple9> yes PP thats a idea [15:53] <Aislinn> true, she may [15:53] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> See, I have a theory that something might happen either at the wedding or when Harry turns 17 that might convince him to go back [15:53] <cbm> No, Unless hogwarts is his only place of safety [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> and it might be something that DE's do that causes it [15:53] <Aislinn> I think this is actually one of the most likely reasons that will send Harry back [15:53] <JaneMarple9> hmmm like Draco? [15:53] <Poet> An attack? [15:53] <MagicalKreacher> Harry could have to return to school because he discovers something of great importance is there (horcrux or clue) or because he knows dangers is coming closer to Hogwarts and he has to protect someone or the school [15:53] <fawkes28> I think that if Hogwarts were being attacked, he would have to go and protect it [15:53] <Kneazly> Or back to school for advice from DD's portrait. [15:54] <fawkes28> Harry considers Hogwarts his home and he wouldnt let anything hurt it if he could [15:54] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps draco will reappear somewhere and talk with harry [15:54] <MagicalKreacher> That's what I meant, Fawkes [15:54] <ProngsPatronus> I ahte to bring him up, but the areas of spellcasting--closing the mind, and nonverbals, may help him decide [15:54] <Expelliarmas> well, Harry wouldn't need to be a student to have time to see DD's portrait [15:54] <GranjoGranger> I see it happening in the naturel order of things. Harry will need to use Hogwarts as a base, and he'll have the mosrt support there. He'll just go back. I see some rules being bent and everyone even the students being affected by the challenge. We already know there will be no quiddich. Maybe there will be increased defence training [15:54] <Expelliarmas> that's a case of Harry admitting he needs help learning something, Prongs [15:55] <Aislinn> I don't think he needs to learn that, prongs [15:55] <MagicalKreacher> Still, Harry wants to go to Godric's Hollow first : will he go once he's of age, just after his birthday and then attend normally to HogwartS? [15:55] <fawkes28> yes, GranjoGranger, Hogwarts would be a good place for Harry to come and go from [15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I still say something might happen that convinces Harry he needs the tools that only Hogwarts can provide [15:55] <Aislinn> I think he rather needs to learn how to open up as much as possible, to draw in LV, or to get into LV's mind [15:55] <ProngsPatronus> still--Harry may decide he needs to learn that [15:56] <ProngsPatronus> besides--the real experts are at Hogwarts [15:56] <ProngsPatronus> if he wants to learn something, where better to go? [15:56] <Aislinn> as well as the library, where Hermione can help him find important information [15:56] <MagicalKreacher> Harry may have no choice at all if, say, Ginny's in danger. Hogwarts would be the perfect trap if the DE could take it over. (not that I'd like that to happen and I'm sure it isn't going to happen) [15:56] *** awlaisis left #lounge [] [15:57] <fawkes28> there are a lot of important things there - i hope it is nothing bad that convinces him to go back to hogwarts [15:57] <Poet> The old Daily Prophets are there, and Hermione can look for reports of objects being stolen [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> There is also the possibility that somehting learned ether from information that Petunia may have for Harry as well as information that Harry may learn at GH could convince him he needs to go back [15:57] <fawkes28> like the school or someone being in danger - i would hope he goes back before something terrible happens [15:57] <Aislinn> ooh, that's a good thought, soone [15:57] <MagicalKreacher> Sooner, I believe GH and Hogwarts must be linked in some way (letter left somewhere, etc.) [15:57] <Kneazly> Maybe he needs to go back to unite the four houses against LV [15:57] <Aislinn> r [15:57] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Kneazly! [15:58] *** terivic has joined #lounge [15:58] <Aislinn> yes, kneazly - I think that is part of what he needs to do [15:58] <fawkes28> At the end of HBP, we saw McGonagall take over as temporary headmistress. If Hogwarts stays open, will she more than likely remain in that position? [15:58] <MrMcGonagall> I think the clue to identify the Ravenclaw horcrux can be be found at Hogwarts. [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> when you look at it, there are so many different sources and reasons for Harry to be convinced to change his mind and go back [15:58] <Kneazly> I wonder if Draco could be a part of that somehow [15:58] <MrMcGonagall> I think McG will be headmistress. [15:58] <fawkes28> I think McG will definitelt remain headmistress [15:58] <Poet> Yes, she was Deputy Headmistress [15:58] <Aislinn> Yes, I think she will be [15:58] <ProngsPatronus> I think so--Dumbledore had enough confidence in her to name her his second [15:58] <JaneMarple9> i'd wondered that too Kneazly [15:58] <futureweasley> I think Scrimegour doesn't have any reason not to trust that she's the chick for the job [15:58] <fawkes28> there is no better choice - she has earned her position well [15:58] <JaneMarple9> I am thinking it will be Mcgonagall [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I think a lot of it depends on the board of govenors [15:58] <cbm> I would hope so, but if the ministry makes the decision anything can happen sad [15:59] <MrMcGonagall> Unless the Ministry decides to exert a strong arm and put another Ministry flunky in the role. [15:59] <Aislinn> and she has acted as Headmistress on at least one occasion already [15:59] <JaneMarple9> no Scrimegeour and not fudge [15:59] <Aislinn> when Dd was forced out in CoS [15:59] <futureweasley> heck, I bet she'd even get Percy's vote of confidence [15:59] <JaneMarple9> even worse thought......umbridge (shuddled!) [15:59] <Aislinn> lol future [15:59] <ProngsPatronus> we may see Umbridge try to get back some power at the school, though [15:59] <MrMcGonagall> I'll admit the theoretical possibility that McG won't succeed as headmistress, but I think she's a shoo-in. [15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> It wil be interesting to see if the MoM thinks they have a better candidate or not [15:59] <Poet> And she's pretty strict and straight-laced. I think the board will be "for" her as Headmistress [15:59] <fawkes28> McG is a powerful woman and will be a great headminstress - she is not afraid of the gits at the Ministry - if they challenge her, she will step up to them [15:59] <cbm> Well Umbridge does have experience in the job sad [15:59] <Aislinn> do you think she would get that close to the centaurs, Prongs? [15:59] <MagicalKreacher> PP : I'm a bit afraid of what part Umbridge is going to play too [15:59] <Greeneyes15> I really hope she stays as head. She'll be good. I agree with fawkes [15:59] <Aislinn> I would think she would want to stay away [16:00] <futureweasley> she's the rightful headmaster, as Aislinn pointed out, the office opened itself to her [16:00] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> LOL--I think she would want them kicked out of the FF [16:00] <Aislinn> hi molly [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> The only problem that I have thiking that she is confirmed is that the Ministry is not exactly all that smart [16:00] <mollywobbles23> hi [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> and Firenze out of Hogwarts [16:00] <MrMcGonagall> A lot depends on the board of governors. [16:00] <Aislinn> yeah, good luck getting them out of there laugh [16:00] <terivic> Umbridge would give MOM the control of the school... a long time objective of theirs [16:00] <futureweasley> yeah, who are these people? [16:00] <fawkes28> I wonder if DD expected some kind of challenge from the ministry and already has prevented them objecting to her [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> exactly! [16:00] <futureweasley> why do we not know who the governors are? [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> However, it is interesting that the castle accepted her beyond a shadow of a doubt [16:00] <MrMcGonagall> If it's anything like the real world, wizards of wealth and influence. [16:00] <Aislinn> ooh, how do you think he would have done that, fawkes? [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> politicians, I suppose [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> and mostly purebloods? [16:01] <futureweasley> no idea [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> I think there might be a purge of the governors, though [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> after Lucius [16:01] <futureweasley> Malfoy was not one...he just had influence over them [16:01] <Kneazly> At least Malfoy is no longer a governnor. Typically governors are teachers/parents/government/volunteers. [16:01] <futureweasley> or was he? [16:01] <cbm> I think that the castle will recognize her, who knows what the ministry idiots will do [16:01] <fawkes28> I think he probably put together some document in his Will preventing the ministry from interfering with his successor [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> it does make you wonder how one even gets to be on the board [16:01] *** ph63915 has joined #lounge [16:01] <MagicalKreacher> Malfoy was a governor? [16:01] <futureweasley> I didn't think so [16:01] <MagicalKreacher> I never thought he had that kind of power [16:01] <MrMcGonagall> Scrimgeour could engineer a takeover of Hogwarts better than Fudge did, I think. [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> Malfoy was indeed a governor [16:02] <MrMcGonagall> I think Malfoy was on the board and got booted after the CoS incident. [16:02] <futureweasley> but he went to the governors and threatened them during CoS to sign the petition to remove DD from office [16:02] <MagicalKreacher> Wow, PP, that's a scary idea [16:02] <Poet> I think Scrimgeour has his hands full enough with the MoM. I think parents trust the Hogwarts staff more than the MoM these days ;) [16:02] <fawkes28> I think it would be neat to see DD still having power over the minsitry from beyond the grave [16:02] <ProngsPatronus> I surely hope so, poet [16:02] <MagicalKreacher> I think DD's death might actually puzzle Scrimgeour. He is going to be very careful with Hogwarts... [16:02] <cbm> I do not think Scrimgeour is that competent, look how little progress they made in HBP, plus they did not purge the minister's office [16:03] <fawkes28> If McGonagall is not going to be headmistress, who do you think is going to be in charge of Hogwarts the next year? [16:03] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [16:03] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [16:03] <MrMcGonagall> I have no idea. If it's Percy I'll die, I'll just die. [16:03] <Poet> Not Fudge and not Umbridge [16:03] <cbm> I would expect some character we only know by name [16:03] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [16:03] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [16:03] <Expelliarmas> no idea [16:03] <ProngsPatronus> good dream, beside McG? Artur Weasley [16:04] <ProngsPatronus> bad dream? Umbridge [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> If not McGonagall, I would think that it would have to be a MoM appointed person [16:04] <MagicalKreacher> I can't imagine anyone else than McGonagall... Someone we don't know much about I guess... [16:04] *** NYBookworm has joined #lounge [16:04] <fawkes28> i dont think Arthur would want it [16:04] <Kneazly> There aren't really any other likely candidates [16:04] *** GranjoGranger has quit [Bye] [16:04] <Expelliarmas> i would think it would have to be someone of some considerable skills [16:04] <MagicalKreacher> Percy as the MoM appointed person? It would be funny [16:04] <Poet> (Snuffles ate my post) Maybe one of the NEWTS or OWL examiners [16:04] <Greeneyes15> hey, i'm gonna get going...see yas! bye1 [16:04] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:04] <Aislinn> I can't imagine anyone else being appropriate [16:04] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:04] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Ministry is going to become more and more uncomfortable for Arthur [16:04] <Aislinn> bye greeneyes [16:04] <cbm> I would love to see what Ginny did to Percy if it was him [16:05] <fawkes28> I would think that it should be someone that is already teaching at Hogwarts - although it should be McG [16:05] <MagicalKreacher> Bat bogey hex, cmb? [16:05] <ltbrave23> well they need someone with a reputation of power that would give the parents confidence in the school again [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> Honestly, you would think that the minstry would be too busy for petty games, but who knows? [16:05] *** ravenmoonglow has joined #lounge [16:05] <ProngsPatronus> lol--Slughorn, with his connections? [16:05] *** Greeneyes15 has quit [Bye] [16:05] <fawkes28> that is exactly what i was just thinking, Sooner [16:05] <cbm> But the ministry must be seen as doing something and messing with hogwarts is something [16:05] <MagicalKreacher> Slughorn doesn't like fame, he likes luxury granted bythose who are... He would never accept such a dangerous position with big responsabilities [16:06] <ProngsPatronus> petty is what they are good at, sooner [16:06] <fawkes28> So everyone thinks it is going to just be McGonagall? [16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I truly think that decideing to leave it open and keeping McG headmistress are dependent on each other. [16:06] *** Kneazly left #lounge [] [16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I do fawkes This post has been edited by Expelliarmas: Mar 25 2007, 04:40 PM --------------------  All Aboard! |
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