Peter Pettigrew: true Gryffindor?, Is he a true Gryffindor? |
 Dec 3 2006, 11:37 AM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 173 Joined: 2:59pm November 30, 2006  |
why was peter in gryffindor???
what exactly should the qualities be in order to be placed in gryffindor........ or what exactly should the the qualities be in order to be placed. |
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Dec 3 2006, 11:42 AM
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Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 203 Joined: 4:57pm August 27, 2006 Location: Iowa, USA  |
Does it ever say he's in gryfindor? i cant remember. anyway, clearly the student has somewhat of a say in which house their in (i.e. harry says he doesn't want slytherin so the hat doesn't put him there). Also, don't they compare peter to neville, who is also in gryfindor.
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Dec 3 2006, 12:47 PM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 173 Joined: 2:59pm November 30, 2006 |
the sorting hat was finding it difficult to put harry, harry could have been in slytherin or griffindor....he had both qualities..... but the slytherin qualities were not his original ones...... he got it from voldy.......
the sorting hat was made to sort |
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Dec 3 2006, 01:36 PM
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Gambol and Japes' Research Department Posts: 1,375 Joined: 3:41pm July 24, 2005 Location: The Time Room of the DoM, trying to find a way to slow down time  |
We don't know that Peter was a Gryffindor. Jo was asked what Houses the Marauders were in, but in the question Remus was listed twice and Peter not at all.
The thing is, I can't figure out what House Peter would be in with the information we have right now. He's clearly a sniveling coward crossing out Gryffindor. He wasn't notoriously clever, putting an "X" through Ravenclaw. He was hardly loyal to his friends, eliminating Hufflepuff. Somehow though, I don't see James and Sirius hanging out with a Slytherin. I think it's a difficult puzzle. -------------------- "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"  Thanks for the use of the Garden image tanyal33! |
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Dec 3 2006, 01:53 PM
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Gambol and Japes' Research Department Posts: 1,364 Joined: 9:49am November 10, 2006 |
I donīt necessarily see the slytherins as cowards. I donīt think marcus Flint is a coward. He dared after all to shout at draco after they lost the Quidditch match in CoS. Despite the wonderful brooms dracoīs daddy bought the team.
My sister and I discussed pp yesterday, and we thought he was loyal to powerful ppl. So maybe a hufflepuff whoīs gone astray. -------------------- Molly for Minister
Lupin is lovely you can only be weak, if you are allowed to be strong. my fanfic:Eileenīs Curse Detector Junk Shop For a girl from Slytherin loving Snape would not be the bad-guy-syndrom. |
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Dec 3 2006, 01:56 PM
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Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 245 Joined: 3:39pm September 17, 2006 Location: On the varsity tennis team |
maybe the sorting hat couldve seen intot he future and saw him being "brave" with voldemort possiably?
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Dec 3 2006, 02:06 PM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 160 Joined: 9:25pm September 19, 2006 Location: Kansas |
Oooh, that's good, Bubblez. That's a good possibility... perhaps the Hat isn't restricted by the triviality of time but can determine someone's true character regardless of what it was at the time of sorting.
And by the way,  to Leaky!  Hope you have fun here and stick around a while.
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Dec 3 2006, 02:15 PM
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Sundae-Nut-Chopper at Florean Fortescue's Posts: 923 Joined: 5:50pm August 19, 2005 Location: Canada eh! |
Peter doesn't exude Gryffindor qualities at all and he doesn't strike me as a Ravenclaw smartie. He reminds me of a Slytherin, but more like a Slughorn type, opportunistic, fearful, cunning. I just can't see the Marauders taking a Slytherin under their wings. They hated Snape.
As for him being with LV, he is going to the side that he feels is the most powerful. I could see him jumping LV's ship, just like rats do, if he feels the other side is getting more powerful. He can't however go back to the good side anymore, so if he abandins LV, then I could see him going into hiding again, but most likely he'll get killed. I don't think it's bravery that keeps him by LV's side, but rather fear and there's no where else to go. |
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Dec 3 2006, 02:19 PM
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Gambol and Japes' Research Department Posts: 1,375 Joined: 3:41pm July 24, 2005 Location: The Time Room of the DoM, trying to find a way to slow down time |
QUOTE(Katessence @ Dec 3 2006, 02:15 PM) [snapback]1021097[/snapback] Peter doesn't exude Gryffindor qualities at all and he doesn't strike me as a Ravenclaw smartie. He reminds me of a Slytherin, but more like a Slughorn type, opportunistic, fearful, cunning. I just can't see the Marauders taking a Slytherin under their wings. They hated Snape. As for him being with LV, he is going to the side that he feels is the most powerful. I could see him jumping LV's ship, just like rats do, if he feels the other side is getting more powerful. He can't however go back to the good side anymore, so if he abandins LV, then I could see him going into hiding again, but most likely he'll get killed. I don't think it's bravery that keeps him by LV's side, but rather fear and there's no where else to go. I completely agree. Peter plays for power, very Slytherin of him. But James and Sirius especially disliked Slytherins. If there were ever any chance of Peter being forgiven by the Order, that chance was DD. He can't go back now. -------------------- "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?" Thanks for the use of the Garden image tanyal33! |
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 Dec 3 2006, 02:44 PM
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Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,321 Joined: 4:10pm September 28, 2005 Location: Sat in the Leaky Cauldron with Harry, Ron Hermione, Ginny, Neville and Luna - drinking Butterbeer!!! |
QUOTE(Better than a veela @ Dec 3 2006, 04:42 PM) [snapback]1020943[/snapback] ... anyway, clearly the student has somewhat of a say in which house their in (i.e. harry says he doesn't want slytherin so the hat doesn't put him there). The Sorting Hat couldn't decide between Gryffindor and Slytherin...However Harry's deep desire not to be put in Slytherin meant that the Sorting Hat could see that the Slytherin values were not Harry's values. Another indicator for the Hat that made it put Harry in Gryffindor was that a true Slytherin would not desperatly plead not to be put there.... Also Harry's bravery to say this to the Sorting Hat showed the Hat that without a doubt, Harry should be put in Gryffindor over Slytherin QUOTE(nympheart @ Dec 3 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]1021052[/snapback] We don't know that Peter was a Gryffindor. Jo was asked what Houses the Marauders were in, but in the question Remus was listed twice and Peter not at all. This was probably a mistake in the question because JK says "This is JK herself saying that they were indeed in Gryffindor!" so wouldn't she say that Lupin, James and Sirius were in Gryffindor, and PP was in X if he wasn't in Gryffindor? I think she would make it very clear that PP was in a different house if he wasn't in Gryffindor. Also if PP was in a different house, how did he hang out with the others, help them make the map, learn to become an Animagus and how did he sneak out of his House area and meet up with the others to go on their midnight roaming sessions?! Also would James, Sirius and Lupin go out of their way to be best friends with someone from a different house, and someone they probably had never met before Hogwarts? I don't think so...Therefore I think it is safe to assume PP was in Gryffindor... QUOTE(secunda @ Dec 3 2006, 06:53 PM) [snapback]1021073[/snapback] I donīt necessarily see the slytherins as cowards. I donīt think marcus Flint is a coward. He dared after all to shout at draco after they lost the Quidditch match in CoS. Despite the wonderful brooms dracoīs daddy bought the team. I don't see the Slytherins as cowards, especially not after the Sorting Hat's songs JK has said that "The Sorting Hat is certainly sincere." so we can take what it says as fairly accurate. The Hat has usually described Slytherin as cunning, as seen in the Hat's songs: PS/SS Or perhaps in Slytherin Youll make your real friends, Those cunning folk use any means, To achieve their ends. GoF Shrewd Slytherin, from fen... And power-hungry Slytherin Loved those of great ambition OoTP Said Slytherin, "We'll teach just those Whose ancestry is purest."... For instance, Slytherin Took only pure-blood wizards Of great cunning, just like him Therefore we know that Slytherins are power-hungry, cunning, shrewd and ambitious - there is no reference to cowardice. Also why would someone in Slytherin be proud to be in a house if it was supposed to be associated with cowardice? Can you really see Draco Malfoy desperatly wanting to be placed in Slytherin if it was a 'cowards house'? I don't think so -------------------- *My name is Jean Valjean! * And I'm Javert. Do not forget me 24601! Long live Les Mis!   Just because you've got the emotional range of a teaspoon, doesn't mean we all have!--Hermione |
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