Post Prince Predictions Chat, June 24, 2007, The Hero/Fan's Journey, by TheGuruOfSloth |
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This is the transcript for the P3 chat on June 24, 2007. The moderators were: cloudpic, fawkes28, Poet, Prongs Patronus, and Theoriser.
[14:00] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [14:00] *** Puzzlepiece has joined #lounge [14:01] <fawkes28> you can type? [14:01] <Puzzlepiece> is that odd? [14:01] <fawkes28> yes, it was supposed to be set on not typing [14:01] <fawkes28> but it is ok smile [14:01] <Puzzlepiece> oh. well. thats ok [14:01] *** TheGuruOfSloth has joined #lounge [14:02] *** Snuffles changed the topic to: HP7: The Fan's Journey: From Here to Scar and Beyond (fawkes28) [14:02] <fawkes28> hey Guru [14:02] <fawkes28> thanks for your part of the debate, Puzzle - it was great! [14:02] <TheGuruOfSloth> howdy - Donna told me yesterday about this, thought I'd stop by for a bit! [14:02] <Puzzlepiece> no pro4lem. Twas fun [14:02] <Puzzlepiece> we see4 to be losing according to the reactions, though :P [14:03] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [14:03] <Puzzlepiece> hi Jane [14:03] <fawkes28> awesome - glad you can come [14:03] *** Love4Fawkes has joined #lounge [14:03] <JaneMarple9> hey all! [14:03] <JaneMarple9> ((((boothers)))) [14:03] <Puzzlepiece> hi Love [14:03] <fawkes28> hey Jane and Love [14:03] <Love4Fawkes> Hi smile [14:03] <fawkes28> we start the chat at quarter after [14:03] <Puzzlepiece> the sidebar lies! [14:04] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [14:04] <fawkes28> that is when we start the questions [14:04] <Love4Fawkes> why? [14:04] <fawkes28> we give people time to get here [14:04] <fawkes28> hey theoriser [14:04] <Theoriser> hi fawkes [14:04] <Love4Fawkes> oh, sorry. I was saying why to puzzle [14:04] <TheGuruOfSloth> lol... lying sidebars... what's the world coming to? [14:04] <Puzzlepiece> hi theoriser [14:04] <Puzzlepiece> oh. the sidebar says3-5! But its 3:15 to 5 [14:04] *** ProngsPatronus has joined #lounge [14:05] <fawkes28> you get to chat with us for 15 minutes! [14:05] <fawkes28> what could be better than that? wink [14:05] <Puzzlepiece> what a terrible fate [14:05] <Love4Fawkes> I like the 15 minutes of free chat before we get down to business [14:05] <fawkes28> heya stag lady! [14:05] <fawkes28> me too - it is fun to just chat [14:06] <Puzzlepiece> I like it [14:06] <fawkes28> and be goofy - it is what i do best laugh [14:06] <JaneMarple9> laugh [14:06] <Love4Fawkes> it also gives me a 15 minute window to remember we have a chat biggrin [14:06] <Puzzlepiece> where are the smileys on here, anyways [14:06] <TheGuruOfSloth> i think ya just have to know the code... [14:07] <ProngsPatronus> heya, fawkes! [14:07] <Puzzlepiece> since they dont always work for me [14:07] <fawkes28> you just have to use the codes [14:07] <Puzzlepiece> ahh well. Screwy computer. [14:07] <fawkes28> i used to go into a thread and hit reply and then click on the smileys to le4ve it up during the chat [14:08] <Love4Fawkes> that's a great idea fawkes [14:08] <fawkes28> then you learn most of the commands - they come in handy devil2 [14:08] <Puzzlepiece> sometimes the normal happy face simply doesnt work smile [14:08] <fawkes28> some don't work in here - but we are getting it fixed [14:08] <Puzzlepiece> like :P [14:09] <TheGuruOfSloth> i think it needs a space in front of it, or something - if you try to4put it first [14:09] <TheGuruOfSloth> :) [14:09] <TheGuruOfSloth> smile [14:09] <Puzzlepiece> smart [14:09] <fawkes28> yes it needs a space [14:09] <Puzzlepiece> :woot: [14:09] <Puzzlepiece> nope. hmmm [14:10] *** Dreamteam has joined #lounge [14:10] <fawkes28> hello dreamteam devil2 [14:10] <Dreamteam> hi fawkes [14:10] <fawkes28> see, they come in handy laugh [14:10] <Love4Fawkes> lol [14:10] <Puzzlepiece> welcomeani [14:10] <Puzzlepiece> there [14:10] <fawkes28> yes, that one is good but it always messes up the chat because it is so big [14:10] <Love4Fawkes> or laugh [14:10] <JaneMarple9> hello dreamteam smile [14:10] *** kadi has joined #lounge [14:11] <fawkes28> hello kadi devil [14:11] *** Aradragoon has joined #lounge [14:11] <fawkes28> see, again the smileys come in handy [14:11] <kadi> helloooo! [14:11] <Dreamteam> Hi Jane [14:11] <fawkes28> :bite: [14:11] <fawkes28> hey Aradragoon [14:11] <kadi> green already taken? [14:11] <Aradragoon> hello [14:12] <fawkes28> nope, it's all yours [14:12] <kadi> :D [14:12] <kadi> excellleeeent [14:12] *** ProngsPatronus has quit [Bye] [14:12] <Aradragoon> hi all, blue taken? [14:12] <Puzzlepiece> nope [14:12] <Aradragoon> kewl [14:12] *** ProngsPatronus has joined #lounge [14:12] <fawkes28> you may share all the colors except for pink wink [14:12] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 [14:12] <fawkes28> hey ph63915 [14:12] <ph63915> evening all [14:12] <Puzzlepiece> smiley overkill? [14:12] <JaneMarple9> it's sunday biggrin [14:12] <fawkes28> oh, boy - i told everyone my secret to the smileys [14:12] <Aradragoon> lol [14:12] * fawkes28 is going to regret that [14:12] <JaneMarple9> :couch: [14:12] <Dreamteam> we're all w00t2 [14:12] <JaneMarple9> sofa [14:12] <Dreamteam> too late fawkes :evil: [14:12] <Puzzlepiece> ahh 3 of them. all in unison [14:12] <TheGuruOfSloth> good ol' Ray... [14:13] <JaneMarple9> and one last one :owl: [14:13] <kadi> aw! why did i miss the secret to the emoticons? [14:13] <fawkes28> it's madness in here and surprising it is my fault [14:13] <kadi> *harasses fawkes to retell* [14:13] <fawkes28> oh, shhh now - don't tell her [14:13] <Puzzlepiece> open up the smiley window in a reply to a post on te forum [14:13] <Love4Fawkes> I love the couch icon, but i'm not sure when I would use it [14:13] <fawkes28> shhh, i said [14:13] <Puzzlepiece> for fawkes, hiding from all the smileys [14:13] <fawkes28> kadi will take advantage of it [14:13] <kadi> ahhh [14:13] <fawkes28> you just need to know the code, miss devil2 [14:14] <Aradragoon> too late fawkes [14:14] <kadi> is it in : : or ( ) ? [14:14] <ProngsPatronus> hey, guru! [14:14] <kadi> :asnake: [14:14] <kadi> (asnake) [14:14] <TheGuruOfSloth> helloes! [14:14] <kadi> le sigh [14:14] <kadi> hey slothy smile [14:14] <fawkes28> snake doesnt work in here [14:14] <TheGuruOfSloth> :asnake: [14:14] <TheGuruOfSloth> d'oh! [14:14] <JaneMarple9> hey Guru smile [14:14] <fawkes28> some don't [14:14] <TheGuruOfSloth> hi everyone [14:14] <Puzzlepiece> is this everyone for now? sad [14:15] <fawkes28> Guru wrote the Chapter we are talking about today clap [14:15] <kadi> this is plenty puzzle! [14:15] <ProngsPatronus> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You're not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you'll be able to type again soon. [14:15] <ProngsPatronus> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod. [14:16] <ProngsPatronus> You won't be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it" in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [14:16] <ProngsPatronus> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [14:16] <ProngsPatronus> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [14:18] <Theoriser> Welcome to a look at "The Fan's Journey: Getting from Here to "Scar" and Beyond" by The Guru of Sloth which you can find in its glorious and hilarious entirety if you Click Right Here [14:18] <Theoriser> Using the famililar structure of the Monomyth, known commonly as "The Hero's Journey," Guru examines the brave struggle of the loyal fan, the "Hero-Reader," as we wait anxiously for the last book in the Harry Potter series. [14:19] <Theoriser> Hoping to aid the Hero-Reader by making her aware of the harrowing stages of this journey, Guru examines the Fan's Journey through the lens of Campbell's Monomyth structure. [14:19] <Theoriser> Let us embark, then, shall we Hero-Readers? — on a discovery of this journey "from here to "scar" and …beyond! [14:19] <Theoriser> The Hero-Reader's journey begins upon closing Half-Blood Prince. The last word is read, but the mind is in turmoil: Questions jostle and fight for attention! The Hero-Reader may even have spoken that first question aloud: "Wait — so is Snape actually bad after all?" Do you remember your own answer to this question after a first read of HBP?? [14:20] *** Puzzlepiece has joined #lounge [14:20] <kadi> I never asked that question! I have never doubted his loyalty. [14:20] <JaneMarple9> i was not all that suprised [14:20] <fawkes28> I thought he was bad [14:20] <ProngsPatronus> I never doubted he was out for himself [14:20] <Theoriser> I thought he was bad as well [14:20] <Aradragoon> I wondered if he and DD had a plan [14:21] <Dreamteam> No I always thought he was on the good side, bad man but on the good side [14:21] <ProngsPatronus> and was desperate to be his own master [14:21] <Love4Fawkes> I've gone back and forth so much I myself don't know what I think! [14:21] <Puzzlepiece> he is out for himself [14:21] <ph63915> I trust DD [14:21] <kadi> I was actually surprised people would take his killing DD as evidence of his malice. [14:21] <fawkes28> i did - i changed over to the good side after Leaky but then I came back to my senses - he is out for himself [14:21] <JaneMarple9> i have never trusted snape much [14:21] <Theoriser> I never even considered that it could have been a plan with dumbledore until I went online and saw everyone's theories [14:21] <JaneMarple9> and he will have to do a lot to redeem himself now [14:21] <Love4Fawkes> he sure will! [14:21] <Dreamteam> he will, I'm sure of it [14:22] <ProngsPatronus> I have never thought Dumbledore was much of one for euthanasia [14:22] <kadi> Why is redemption needed? [14:22] <Puzzlepiece> I am sort-of undecided, but I think he at one point had a plan, but everything became so convoluted that he is now out for himself and knows his end is near eaither way [14:22] <Love4Fawkes> I trust DD, therefore, I trust snape [14:22] <Dreamteam> not euthanasia I think, but resigned to do what was necessary [14:22] <kadi> If he was doing what was required of him? Even though he despised it? [14:22] <Love4Fawkes> but I need to remind myself of that often. especially after reading spinners end [14:22] <Aradragoon> Unless this was the only way for someone to get close to VM to help Harry because DD may have known Harry cant kill [14:22] <ProngsPatronus> Dumbledore loved life [14:22] <JaneMarple9> because he killed dumbledore - that is why i think snape has to redeem himself [14:22] <fawkes28> They made have had a play - you are right Puzzle - but Snape strayed from it [14:22] <Puzzlepiece> back in 5 [14:22] *** Puzzlepiece left #lounge [] [14:23] <fawkes28> we don't know that, kadi [14:23] *** LJ has joined #lounge [14:23] <kadi> I do :P [14:23] <TheGuruOfSloth> If Snape did it with Dumbledore's approval or at his request... it's not so much a question of redemption, but of proving himself to Dumbledore's supporters [14:23] <fawkes28> which is what makes it so fun to debate wink [14:23] <TheGuruOfSloth> but the same idea... in their eyes, he must be redeemed [14:23] <kadi> agreed guru [14:23] <Love4Fawkes> that's true Guru, but even after proving himself some will still think there could have been another way [14:24] <Theoriser> Other questions demand attention: "Who's R.A.B."? Did you have a guess at first reading? How long before you stumbled upon an answer? What theories about this question have intrigued you? Amused you? [14:24] <fawkes28> I thought it was Amelia Bones [14:24] <TheGuruOfSloth> (good point Love4Fawkes) [14:24] <JaneMarple9> i think it is pretty obvious who RAB is [14:24] <Love4Fawkes> I guessed at the first reading which is why I think its way to easy and we will all be proven wrong! [14:24] <kadi> I could not at all guess til I came to the Lounge and smacked my head! Regulus! Gah! [14:24] <kadi> :D [14:25] <fawkes28> not until I got online did i see how almost everyone thought that it was regulus [14:25] <JaneMarple9> (obvious Ripper, Aunt Marge's dog).... [14:25] <TheGuruOfSloth> hehe [14:25] <Dreamteam> LOL I love that one Catherine [14:25] <fawkes28> however, part of me still has hope that it was Amelia - it would be nice to have that twist in there [14:25] <Theoriser> I can't even remember what I thought at first [14:25] <Aradragoon> I think it is interesting that supposedly whenever the last name Black is changed the initials are also changed accordingly <Jo does not confirm this for obvious reasons> [14:25] <JaneMarple9> laugh ok I think it's Regulas too! [14:25] <kadi> I thought it was too obvious as well til we read the interview and Jo seemed to agree Regulus was a very good guess. [14:25] <Love4Fawkes> I read that too Aradragoon [14:25] <LJ> I guessed Regulus on first reading - and had fun trying to figure out his middle name tongue [14:25] <Dreamteam> neither can I Theoriser but I think Regulas is the obvious answer [14:26] <Aradragoon> Jo couldnt confirm or deny it if it is true though [14:26] <Love4Fawkes> a good guess does not mean its right. it might mean that is exactly who she wanted us to think RAB is [14:26] <ph63915> I thought it would have been either Borgin or Burke [14:26] <JaneMarple9> regulus seems the obvious answer...but Jo might really really suprise us [14:26] * fawkes28 thinks it should be Amelia [14:26] <fawkes28> some people think it is Andromeda Black [14:25] <kadi> I thought it was too obvious as well til we read the interview and Jo seemed to agree Regulus was a very good guess. [14:25] <Love4Fawkes> I read that too Aradragoon [14:25] <LJ> I guessed Regulus on first reading - and had fun trying to figure out his middle name tongue [14:25] <Dreamteam> neither can I Theoriser but I think Regulas is the obvious answer [14:26] <Aradragoon> Jo couldnt confirm or deny it if it is true though [14:26] <Love4Fawkes> a good guess does not mean its right. it might mean that is exactly who she wanted us to think RAB is [14:26] <ph63915> I thought it would have been either Borgin or Burke [14:26] <JaneMarple9> regulus seems the obvious answer...but Jo might really really suprise us [14:26] * fawkes28 thinks it should be Amelia [14:26] <fawkes28> some people think it is Andromeda Black [14:26] <Love4Fawkes> I think she will surprise us, she's good at that [14:26] <ph63915> but then I read leaky and Regulus is the obvious answer [14:26] <JaneMarple9> but where does the R come in fawkes? smile [14:26] <Theoriser> it's like a double bluff - it's so obvious that you begin to think it can't be true [14:27] <Love4Fawkes> exactly theoriser [14:27] <Aradragoon> Perhaps RAB isn't truly important but she wanted to take our attention off another aspect of the story? [14:27] <fawkes28> exactly theoriser! [14:27] <kadi> I think that might be it. It makes too much sense with the locket being in the Black house though. [14:27] <Love4Fawkes> yes, like with all the fuss about RAB I always forget that DD was reliving something awful as he drank the potion [14:27] <fawkes28> she can't give us all the clues, Jane [14:28] <JaneMarple9> RAB is going to be quite important in book 7 in my opinion, crucial to the plot [14:28] <kadi> That was one of the scariest parts of the book Love4 [14:28] <Love4Fawkes> i know it was! [14:28] <ProngsPatronus> gee--regulus popped into my head right away [14:28] <Theoriser> Further questions launching the Hero-Reader on this journey might have been "Where are the other Horcruxes?" "Is Dumbledore right about his other Horcrux guesses?" Did you have any notions at first read? Which early theories did you like? What do you think now? [14:28] <Aradragoon> she also said Regulus is dead though. [14:28] <kadi> Everything except Nagini methinks [14:28] <fawkes28> me too, kadi [14:28] <kadi> That one just doesn't sit well with me. [14:28] <ProngsPatronus> I thought they were all good, except Nagini [14:29] <Aradragoon> I think Nagini was just to get Harry used to the idea that a living thing can be a horcrux [14:29] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, that Nagini one... I don't get it. [14:29] <fawkes28> no one is perfect - and i think he got one of them wrong - which is pretty good odds [14:29] <ProngsPatronus> then I thought that Nagini may have swallowed one of the Horcruxes [14:29] <Love4Fawkes> I never doubt DD! [14:29] <Dreamteam> I still go with the wand in Ollivander's window [14:29] <ph63915> I still think Harry is a horcrux...dont want it to be true though [14:29] <Aradragoon> DD knew about the horcruxes in book 2 [14:29] <fawkes28> me too, dreamteam [14:29] <TheGuruOfSloth> LOL Prongs! [14:29] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [14:29] <Love4Fawkes> although I really don't like the Nagini as a horcrux idea [14:29] <fawkes28> i will be so disappointed if that wand is not a horcrux [14:30] <fawkes28> hey cloudpic [14:30] <Aradragoon> but didnt share until book 6 so it would make sense he would hide stuff from Harry until he was ready [14:30] <kadi> I like the idea that his TROPHY in the TROPHY room is a horcrux because voldemort liked to collect TROPHIES [14:30] <ProngsPatronus> snakes keep things in their stomach a long time [14:30] <TheGuruOfSloth> I'll admit, Harry as a Horcrux never crossed my mind before I found the online fandom laugh [14:30] * cloudpic waves.... and completely agrees with fawkes about the wand! [14:30] <Dreamteam> Yes I like that one too kadi [14:30] <fawkes28> me either, guru [14:30] <JaneMarple9> ((((Cloud))))) [14:30] <ProngsPatronus> me, either guru [14:30] <fawkes28> snap [14:30] <ProngsPatronus> lol [14:30] <TheGuruOfSloth> I was happily reading the first layer of everything... then all the questions in HBP made me realize I needed better answers [14:30] <Aradragoon> Knowing Voldemort's character he only keeps things valuable to him in places he felt powerful [14:30] <TheGuruOfSloth> and I came here! [14:30] <fawkes28> that is an interesting theory, kadi [14:30] <cloudpic> Hey, Jane.. hugs back... and I Still Don't Accept Harry as Horcrux [14:31] <JaneMarple9> nort do I [14:31] <kadi> I'm not a "Harry is a Horcrux" fan. [14:31] <Love4Fawkes> i'm not sure who thought of the Harry as a Horcrux theory, and I really don't understand how it caught on! [14:31] <fawkes28> no way is he a horcrux [14:31] <Dreamteam> I've never liked the Harry is a Horcrux theory, [14:31] * JaneMarple9 totally agrees with cloud...as usual biggrin [14:31] <Aradragoon> Also the ring Horcrux, after it was destroyed the crack in the ring was described as a lightning bolt, also in the pictures it looks like that [14:31] <Theoriser> Refusal of the Call: Oh, Hero-Reader, after that rush of questions in your Call to Adventure, were you so upset by the ending of HBP that you moved to the next stage of the journey: The Refusal: Rejecting Dumbledore's death, what did you turn to? Fanfic? Creating theories proving "that what we think happened didn't really happen"? What was your first coping strategy? [14:31] <cloudpic> Yeah... HBP did it to me too... I needed to have people to work it out with...hence discussion [14:31] <ProngsPatronus> if DD were uncertain about Nagini, how much more unlikely is it that it is HArry? [14:32] <ph63915> I dont like it but I wonder wheree the piece of soul went if he was trying to make a horcrux when killing Harry [14:32] <JaneMarple9> i just accepted it [14:32] <cloudpic> LOL... I sooooo had a Dumbledore's not dead theory! [14:32] <kadi> DD was absolutely dead to me [14:32] <Dreamteam> I was convinced that he wasn't really dead, that it was some sort of twist [14:32] <Love4Fawkes> I'm a face it dead on type of person. i accepted dd's death and moved on [14:32] <fawkes28> Oh, I didn't accept it at first while I was still reading - what actually got me to accept it was Harry [14:32] <ProngsPatronus> I cried, but thought that it was written so that we would understand he was dead [14:32] <Dreamteam> me too cloudpic, logn and detailed with evidence too [14:32] <cloudpic> I thought he had traded places with Aberforth ... [14:32] <LJ> From the very first I never thought DD was still alive - I hoped he was, but never thought some how he was [14:32] <fawkes28> Harry was so different this time around and since he believed it, so did i [14:32] <Aradragoon> Does anyone know if the details about the nite harry died? [14:32] <JaneMarple9> dumbledore's days were numbered from the third chapter i think [14:32] <Aradragoon> harry lived** [14:32] <Dreamteam> I didn't accept it till JKR said he was definitely dead. [14:33] <Love4Fawkes> me too Prongs [14:33] <fawkes28> really, dreamteam? [14:33] <cloudpic> Yeah... I even wondered after JKR said it. *looks ashamed* [14:33] <TheGuruOfSloth> good point, fawkes - I think that probably made it seem certain to me, too. [14:33] <JaneMarple9> he seemed old and he grew weeker through the series [14:33] <ProngsPatronus> it was such overkill, if you know what I mean [14:33] <Dreamteam> and yet I had thought since book one with his end of book speech to Harry that he would die at the end of 6 or beginning of 7 [14:33] <TheGuruOfSloth> about harry accepting it, I mean [14:33] <cloudpic> That's true, Jane... she did prepare us [14:33] <JaneMarple9> dumbledore's well and truely dead [14:33] <ProngsPatronus> not just merely dead [14:33] <fawkes28> I knew she wouldnt brinh him back like Sirius because you can't do that in real life - and she doesnt want to give kids false hope [14:33] <Love4Fawkes> I agree fawkes and guru I think Harry was the reason I accepted it so quickly [14:33] * cloudpic sniffs [14:34] <cloudpic> LOL [14:34] <cloudpic> Sincerely dead! [14:34] * JaneMarple9 hugs cloud smile [14:34] <kadi> I totally missed his "marked for death" -ness. [14:34] <ph63915> RIP DD. [14:34] <kadi> It was a total shock to me. [14:34] <Love4Fawkes> me to kadi. i read it 3 times i think [14:34] <JaneMarple9> the other death in book 5 was a bigger shocl [14:34] <Love4Fawkes> that passage three times i mean [14:35] <Aradragoon> Perhaps DD was going to die anyway and knew this would give Snape good advantages with Voldemort [14:35] <JaneMarple9> shock* that is [14:35] <fawkes28> i agree, Jane [14:35] <cloudpic> Indeed ph63915.... he was prepared, with his "well organized mind" (which I lack!) [14:35] <Dreamteam> yes that really was a shock [14:35] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, I don't think I'd thought about it enough. but it seemed right, as I read it... though still shocking. [14:35] <ProngsPatronus> it was shocking [14:35] <fawkes28> i was more shocked that snape killed him [14:35] <Dreamteam> because it was so unexpected and so sudden [14:35] <fawkes28> i definitely had to reread it before moving on [14:35] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah. [14:35] <kadi> Be back! [14:35] <cloudpic> That's surely one good theory, Aradragoon [14:35] <Theoriser> The Meeting with the Mentor: But many Hero-Readers found Supernatural Aid, the next step of the Journey, finding a Guide. In Harry Potter fandom, this Guide is not a single being but a "passionate and diverse community composed entirely of fellow Hero-Readers! When and how did you find The Leaky Cauldron? Have they helped you cope? [14:35] <JaneMarple9> i was sad when dumbledore went but sirius was harder to deal with [14:35] <JaneMarple9> definately [14:35] <cloudpic> He was younger, Jane. [14:35] <TheGuruOfSloth> and there wasn't that inevitability about sirius [14:36] <Aradragoon> Also alot of clues say Snape is good. [14:36] <Love4Fawkes> I found Leaky because I needed someplace to talk about HP and all my friends were like: what's to talk about [14:36] <cloudpic> I found Leaky through J.K. Rowling's site recommendation [14:36] <ProngsPatronus> I was shocked by both of them [14:36] <Dreamteam> I found Leaky through JKRs site and then lurked for a very long time [14:36] <JaneMarple9> don't have many Potter friends in real life so the Lounge is a great place [14:36] <LJ> Leaky has been amazing - so many people who are just obsessed as me tongue [14:36] <fawkes28> i found it over a year ago and life hasn't been the same since! [14:36] <TheGuruOfSloth> i think I did too, cloudpic [14:36] <Love4Fawkes> so after HBP here I was after finding leaky on Jo's site [14:36] <ProngsPatronus> so did I, cloudpic! [14:36] <cloudpic> Was searching for a place to talk too.... hey! good company, guru [14:36] <cloudpic> Bless Jo for helping us come together [14:36] <TheGuruOfSloth> smile [14:36] <fawkes28> the lounge has allowed me to travel and meet fantastic people! [14:36] <JaneMarple9> arrived in April 2007 - haven't found the exit door yet laugh [14:36] <Love4Fawkes> I have friends that like HP, but they are not as obsessed as I am! [14:36] <LJ> I found Leaky before LL was opened (can't remember when exactly) [14:37] <ph63915> Googled once and never stopped going back! [14:37] <JaneMarple9> sorry that was 2006 not 2007 [14:37] <fawkes28> i get to meet more this summer in london and scotland - oh, and prophecy [14:37] <cloudpic> Wow! LJ... you found gold early on! [14:37] <Love4Fawkes> I've been here since Aug 2005 I think! [14:37] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah - talk about bringing people together... hehe [14:37] <fawkes28> lol [14:37] <LJ> I didn't join LL till October 06 though - I just read it sometimes [14:37] <cloudpic> heh heh... Guru! It's magic! [14:37] <ProngsPatronus> my life hasn't been the same since [14:37] <JaneMarple9> it certainly brings people together, and all new theories [14:38] <TheGuruOfSloth> indeed it is! the most powerful kind [14:38] <JaneMarple9> nor mine PP! [14:38] <Love4Fawkes> mine either! [14:38] <JaneMarple9> spend a lot more time on a computer now! [14:38] <fawkes28> it brings about great friends that will hopefully last for a lifetime [14:38] <Theoriser> I heard of the leaky lounge through PotterCast (I got it through iTunes) so I decided to join [14:38] <ProngsPatronus> "beyond all that we do here..." [14:38] <cloudpic> So L in LJ is lurker! I lurked for a while first [14:38] <Dreamteam> I joined in September 06 and its gradually taking me over [14:38] <ph63915> Middle of 2006 for me but mainly for the pottercasts, i cant type quick enough for the live chats!!! [14:38] <fawkes28> oh gosh, i dont know what i would do without my computer [14:38] <Dreamteam> thoguh happy to be taken over LOL [14:38] <LJ> haha - I lurked cos I didn't have net at home when LL opened [14:38] <JaneMarple9> laugh [14:38] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, I was totally dragged in by pottercast too [14:39] <fawkes28> i just jumped right in [14:39] <LJ> wait, it wasn't 06, it was 05 [14:39] <cloudpic> I couldn't figure out how to "hear" Pottercast for a terribly long time (admits to tech-challenged condition) [14:39] <Love4Fawkes> i know fawkes. my computer is currently making a funny noise and I'm very scared [14:39] <LJ> that I joined [14:39] <fawkes28> i found leaky because of the first Reading Group [14:39] <cloudpic> Ahh... that makes good sense, LJ [14:39] <JaneMarple9> and me too fawkes [14:39] <fawkes28> and have been causing trouble ever since This post has been edited by Prongs Patronus: Jun 24 2007, 05:25 PM |
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[14:39] <Theoriser> Crossing the First Threshold: We now realize how different is this wait between the end of HBP and DH and the waiting for earlier releases. As Guru says, "this will be the final official word on Harry." A sense of urgency may now be filling you: what is it you Absolutely Must Know / Learn from Deathly Hallows? [14:39] <JaneMarple9> it was the reading groups with the PS/SS brought me here [14:39] <cloudpic> I'd have to take out a loan or something and get a computer delivered if this one quit on me! [14:39] <Dreamteam> I wish I'd found it in time for the first reading groups, I didn't get here till the third one [14:39] <ProngsPatronus> the vaults opened just after I got on--a lovely experience [14:40] <JaneMarple9> what dudley saw in the dementor attack [14:40] <Dreamteam> That Harry lives [14:40] <cloudpic> I'd signed up for a Vault and then couldn't figure out how to get in ... duh. [14:40] <TheGuruOfSloth> now that it's getting so close... i can't decide if i'm ready! [14:40] <JaneMarple9> i know that seems very tame but it's a intriguing question! [14:40] <fawkes28> that he lives and is happy [14:40] <Aradragoon> who lives [14:40] <fawkes28> that is all i care about [14:40] <cloudpic> I absolutely Must know where Snape stands! [14:40] <Love4Fawkes> I had to wait for GoF, OoTP, and HBP, but this wait has been the worst!! [14:40] * TheGuruOfSloth tries to refuse the return [14:40] <ProngsPatronus> I am savouring this time before the book's release [14:40] <fawkes28> he will be changed but he needs to live and be happy [14:40] <fawkes28> me too, prongs [14:40] <Dreamteam> Yes I want to know about Snape too [14:40] <Aradragoon> I think Ginny ans Harry need to live [14:40] <ProngsPatronus> it will never be like this again [14:40] <ph63915> what other secrets are in the chamber... [14:40] <cloudpic> If that's left ambiguous... I shall throw the book out the window! [14:40] <LJ> I was way more excited for HBP - this time there's excited, but also sadness at the ending of the series [14:40] <fawkes28> and i am scared because this time is going by so quickly [14:41] <cloudpic> I hope so too, Aradragoon [14:41] <JaneMarple9> who lives obviously and who dies...don't let it be neville...don't let it be neville [14:41] <fawkes28> me too, LJ [14:41] <ProngsPatronus> lol--I think she will leave that ambiguous, too [14:41] <cloudpic> LOL... guru... no going back now! [14:41] <LJ> *excitement [14:41] <fawkes28> i also want her to tell us Snape's motives so some of us will be able to say, "I told you so" [14:41] <cloudpic> I'd feel terrible if we lost Neville too, Jane [14:41] <TheGuruOfSloth> I want to see a lot of symmetry... bring it back to the first book, that missing day, etc. (not necessarily literally) [14:41] <TheGuruOfSloth> but i want it all to tie together neatly like that! [14:41] <Aradragoon> actually i think she has enough clues in previous books to show Snape is good [14:42] <TheGuruOfSloth> even if not every detail gets tied up... [14:42] <cloudpic> hmpfff.... some folks will be eating socks if they learn the truth about Snape [14:42] <ProngsPatronus> symmetry, guru--that's what I want [14:42] <fawkes28> as long as Neville gets Bella - i would still be sad about Neville's death but as long as he takes her down first [14:42] <Theoriser> definitely, fawkes [14:42] <Love4Fawkes> I would never say "I told you so" [14:42] <JaneMarple9> who cares about snape? laugh [14:42] <LJ> yeah, I want that too guru [14:42] <Dreamteam> I do Jane [14:42] <fawkes28> not me, cloudpic! [14:42] <cloudpic> Yeah.... I'll agree to that... symmetry sounds comfortable [14:42] *** Joyhawk2121 has joined #lounge [14:42] <fawkes28> well, aren't you nice, love? [14:42] <TheGuruOfSloth> so that in the large sense, it all seems to "fit" - that will make loose ends easier to bear, for me [14:42] <ProngsPatronus> we can always hope for Hogwarts: A History! [14:42] <TheGuruOfSloth> but of course, i just want to know every little detail too laugh [14:42] <Love4Fawkes> I actually really don't Jane. I care more about what happened as a whole [14:42] <Dreamteam> I want Lupin to survive and be happy too [14:42] <ph63915> I dont want to see any time travel... [14:43] <JaneMarple9> yeah Hogwarts a History would be good [14:43] <Aradragoon> she said she hates loose ends and that she will tie it all together [14:43] <Love4Fawkes> lol, you think so fawkes! [14:43] <Joyhawk2121> Hello everyone [14:43] <Theoriser> Do you have a "pet" minor element, that niffler-like, you'll seek throughout your first reading of Deathly Hallows? And, what minor point predicted by others will most surprise you if it is true? [14:43] <fawkes28> yes, i want a back story on the founders and on dumbledore [14:43] <ProngsPatronus> hello, joy [14:43] <ProngsPatronus> yesss--the Founders [14:43] * cloudpic says Hi to Joyhawk.... and says I want to learn about what happened to Trevor! [14:43] <ProngsPatronus> my little obsession [14:43] <Love4Fawkes> Hi Joy [14:44] <cloudpic> I suspect we'll learn a bit about them [14:44] <TheGuruOfSloth> haha, Trevor! [14:44] <Dreamteam> That Mdm Pince is Snape's mother [14:44] <Aradragoon> to learn if the animagous thing about Godric is true [14:44] <ph63915> Aberforth and the goats.. [14:44] <cloudpic> Might could be he's some incredibly key creature... [14:44] <cloudpic> Oh! Yes! Aradragoon! I'd love love love that theory to be true! [14:44] <Theoriser> lol [14:45] <TheGuruOfSloth> I'm curious to see which of these numerous literary / mythological allusions bears real fruit, rather than just being loose associations [14:45] <fawkes28> I want people to learn that Slytherin wasn't evil like people think he was [14:45] <ProngsPatronus> I want to know who of the characters goes back to Hogwarts to teach [14:45] <Aradragoon> Lol, it may be a mjor thing though we won't know until it happens [14:45] <cloudpic> (Aberforth is the dragon on the Deluxe cover) [14:45] <Theoriser> it would be nice to have more backstory on the marauders, and Lily and James [14:45] <Dreamteam> Neville will be the one to go back and teach I think [14:45] <cloudpic> That's something I'd like too, fawkes [14:45] <cloudpic> I wanna see Krum! [14:45] <Aradragoon> To see if timetravel plays a part [14:45] <ph63915> ooh yeh, what jobs did james and lilly have [14:45] <Theoriser> good point, I forgot about that ProngsPatronus [14:46] <TheGuruOfSloth> haha, the goats! (sorry, i can't keep up tongue ) [14:46] <ProngsPatronus> I want to know who was under the Invisibility Cloak that night... [14:46] <cloudpic> And whatever did Ollivander do? [14:46] <Dreamteam> and why did DD have it [14:46] <ProngsPatronus> where did he go? [14:46] <fawkes28> and if Ollivander is related to RR [14:46] * cloudpic pats guru and says ... don't try to read everything or your eyes cross! [14:46] <Aradragoon> who actualy made the Half blood prince's corrections in the potions book [14:46] <JaneMarple9> i hate time travel [14:46] <ProngsPatronus> lol [14:46] *** NimbusFlyer has joined #lounge [14:46] <JaneMarple9> except the Pensieve [14:47] <Love4Fawkes> I agree Jane, no more time travel [14:47] <JaneMarple9> thats good [14:47] <Dreamteam> and why did Fortesque disappear? [14:47] <cloudpic> LOL... have you had much experience with it Jane? smile\ [14:47] <ph63915> i agree jane, time travel is a cop out [14:47] <cloudpic> Ack! And how will the "brother wands" issue be resolved? [14:47] <Love4Fawkes> I want to know everything about everything [14:47] <Theoriser> Belly of the Whale: Guru calls this part of the Hero-Reader's journey "Lost in Cyberspace." Are there elements of theorizing and research which have "swallowed" you up? Have friends and family expressed concern? Have you avoided any research paths for fear of being overwhelmed? [14:47] <cloudpic> LOL [14:48] <fawkes28> SNAPE [14:48] * cloudpic is verrrry afraid of getting too deeply into alchemy as it is so complex... and so tempting! [14:48] <fawkes28> i know i know - no caps! tongue [14:48] <ProngsPatronus> obsession knows no bounds, but even I do not get into the shipping wars [14:48] <Aradragoon> researching snape [14:48] <cloudpic> Shame, fawkes! [14:48] <JaneMarple9> biggrin no not dealt with the pensieve or time travel much! [14:48] <fawkes28> snape has swallowed everyone in the fandom [14:48] <TheGuruOfSloth> I think with me, it was almost a self-monitoring thing... I'd never made friends online, or chatted with people like that, I had to question whether or not I was being crazy... [14:48] <JaneMarple9> i mean in the books biggrin [14:48] <Love4Fawkes> I avoid shipping at all costs! But mostly 'cause I think its pointless [14:48] <fawkes28> i am currently arguing with someone about snape right now as we speak [14:48] <TheGuruOfSloth> and I didn't tell my real-life friends/family! [14:48] <Aradragoon> oh fawkes, the more i studied snape the less he became an issue and the more Mcgongall did. [14:49] <Love4Fawkes> I cannot wrap my mind around time travel, and I have tried [14:49] <JaneMarple9> ships ... scare me laugh [14:49] <LJ> haha, completely understand that guru! [14:49] <cloudpic> LOL... then some things in the last year must have been interesting to explain, guru! [14:49] <ProngsPatronus> me, too [14:49] <NimbusFlyer> LOl Jane [14:49] <fawkes28> my family and friends think i spend far too much time on leaky as it is [14:49] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, from the beginning, I never understood the attraction of ships... [14:49] * fawkes28 is proud to be obsessed [14:49] <JaneMarple9> my ship would probably be called Titanic! [14:49] <NimbusFlyer> LOLOL! [14:49] *** nebka has quit [Bye] [14:49] <Love4Fawkes> my friend too fawkes! [14:49] <ProngsPatronus> or the Andrea Doria... [14:49] <cloudpic> Good for you fawkes.... oh, I hope not Jane! [14:49] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, that's for sure cloudpic! that conversation always has an interesting beginning, with people i haven't seen in a while... [14:50] <JaneMarple9> Hi Nimbus smile [14:50] <fawkes28> heya, nimbus [14:50] <NimbusFlyer> Helloo kind folks! [14:50] <LJ> my family threatened to take my computer away at one point - I preferred to be on Leaky than sleep tongue [14:50] <ProngsPatronus> yes--all my friends have questioned my involvement in this--but I don't care! [14:50] <cloudpic> ROTFL, guru.... Hey, Nimbus! I rather liked some ships [14:50] <Theoriser> I avoid the threads that deal with the really significant things, like Snape, because it's too hard to argue with people :P [14:50] <TheGuruOfSloth> hehe... but I think your Leaky friends were trying to make you sleep too, LJ! [14:50] <Love4Fawkes> no one is around to see how much I'm on leaky smile [14:51] <fawkes28> me too, LJ [14:51] <JaneMarple9> i like the obvious ships [14:51] <Love4Fawkes> I avoid threads that are 400 pages long because I don't have time to keep up [14:51] <LJ> yeah, they were guru - it got really bad biggrin [14:51] <cloudpic> Awww.... Theoriser, I hope no one has been nasty to you. [14:51] <fawkes28> that is really bad then, LJ, when your leaky friends are worried [14:51] <cloudpic> Yeah... that's why I like the RG... none of the endless threads [14:51] <ProngsPatronus> I know--the Snape's loyalty thing was too much for me after a while [14:51] <fawkes28> i love those threads, Theoriser - i have been too busy to argue in there the past week [14:52] <ProngsPatronus> such animosity [14:52] <LJ> I had really bad Insomnia fawkes (it's much better now) [14:52] <NimbusFlyer> Me too, Cloud--RG's are wonderful! [14:52] <Theoriser> no, nothing like that, it's just hard to argue your point when everyone is determined that they're right [14:52] <JaneMarple9> the reading groups are great [14:52] <ProngsPatronus> then there is the SWM thing... [14:52] <cloudpic> LOL.... balancing act between Real Life and fandom.... but it's not really so separate, is it? [14:52] <Dreamteam> haha my insomnia has got worse since Leaky [14:52] <cloudpic> SWM? [14:52] <fawkes28> that is good it is better - just wait until you stay up all night reading [14:52] <JaneMarple9> and some of the forums are fun too! [14:52] <fawkes28> snape's worst memory [14:52] <TheGuruOfSloth> snape's worst? [14:52] <cloudpic> Oh, Dreamteam, that's not good [14:52] <ProngsPatronus> Snape's Worst Memory [14:52] <cloudpic> LOL [14:52] <JaneMarple9> snape's worst memory [14:52] <Love4Fawkes> the reading groups are so great! without them I would have gotten so overwhelmed and wouldn't have stayed around [14:52] <LJ> Snape's Worst Memory [14:52] <cloudpic> thanks... again duh [14:53] <TheGuruOfSloth> hehehe... love the lag [14:53] <JaneMarple9> took me ages to figure it out too!! [14:53] <Dreamteam> no cloudpic but its entertaining [14:53] <ProngsPatronus> lol--me, too, guru [14:53] <fawkes28> you can type / reconnect [14:53] *** Sophia40 has joined #lounge [14:53] <Love4Fawkes> I switched weekends with my ex husband so I will have all weekend to read DH!! [14:53] <NimbusFlyer> Great point, Cloud--I loved the way Jason's essay illuminated that expereince for us [14:53] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat [14:53] <fawkes28> hey sophia [14:53] * JaneMarple9 pats Snuffles [14:53] <Sophia40> hi all!!! [14:53] <Dreamteam> I've taken the DH week off on leave [14:53] <LJ> woot, feed snuffles - he may be good tongue [14:53] * cloudpic worries what/ who Snuffles might be munching??? [14:53] <LJ> so have I Dreamteam! [14:53] <Love4Fawkes> lol, great idea dreamteam! [14:53] <Theoriser> The Hero-Reader has likely enjoyed her "Road of Trials." Proving herself worthy of the prize, she looks deeper for satisfying ways to focus "energies and enthusiasm while waiting for the final book." What have been your favored outlets? Discussion/analysis? Crafts? Fanart? Fan fiction? Filks (song parodies)? What's brought you the most fun? [14:53] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [14:53] <fawkes28> not a phoenix that is for sure! [14:54] <LJ> as I'll be in London [14:54] <JaneMarple9> the discussion area [14:54] <Aradragoon> discussions [14:54] <Love4Fawkes> Just being here discussing it has been enough for me! [14:54] <fawkes28> discussion definitely [14:54] <cloudpic> Yep.... for me too, discussion, especially in RG [14:54] <Joyhawk2121> Discussion [14:54] <TheGuruOfSloth> it started out with filks for me! i couldn't get enough of that, and the attention blushing but now it's just skype, and the RGs... discussion, like people are saying! [14:54] <Love4Fawkes> I think I might try my hand at some fan fic. after its all over [14:54] <Dreamteam> yeah the discussions have been great but there is some really good fanfic out there [14:54] <Sophia40> Discussion have been the greatest!! [14:54] <fawkes28> the Corner Booth is my favorite place [14:54] <cloudpic> But I really like looking at the fanart... though can't contribute it amazes me [14:54] <cloudpic> And Filks! [14:54] <cloudpic> love them! [14:54] <ProngsPatronus> I really like the alchemy thread, actually, and the blood thread [14:54] <JaneMarple9> oooo the booth [14:54] <fawkes28> we have such great discussions in here [14:54] <ph63915> discussion but the musical filks were very good [14:54] <Theoriser> yeah, the fanart is amazing [14:54] <LJ> Skype!! [14:55] <ProngsPatronus> but the CB is my favourite! [14:55] <cloudpic> I've got about 10 HP filks in my top 25 playlist on my ipod [14:55] <Sophia40> I like Wizard Rock too!! [14:55] <NimbusFlyer> Alchemy threads and essays! *Ducks the tomatoes now hurling toward her* [14:55] <Love4Fawkes> the fanart is great! I wish i was so talented! [14:55] <Dreamteam> yeah I love skype [14:55] <JaneMarple9> how'd i forget the booth sad with all my buddies ? smile [14:55] <fawkes28> oh, my CB mod friends have gotten me into the filk business but i tend to hide when they write/sing them [14:55] <TheGuruOfSloth> hehe [14:55] <LJ> I'm listening to Ginny and the Weasleys right now [14:55] <JaneMarple9> Skype is fun too [14:55] <cloudpic> LOL.... Nimbus... someday I hope to take the time to really explore the alchemy aspect of HP [14:55] <ProngsPatronus> Nimbus, I like Alchemy, too [14:55] <Theoriser> I like how everyone has different ways of being creative with HP, like music and stories and art [14:55] <Love4Fawkes> As I was reading Guru's essay I couldn't help but think that I wish I had gotten this into it sooner! [14:55] <fawkes28> skype is the best but not while the CB is going on *cough*dreamteam, jane, and love*cough* [14:56] <cloudpic> I wish I could do some of the amazing craft things [14:56] <JaneMarple9> :P [14:56] <Sophia40> lololol...LJ I love them!!! [14:56] <TheGuruOfSloth> I felt that way writing it, Love4Fawkes! [14:56] <Dreamteam> of course fawkes, wouldn't dream of being in two places at once - like some :LOL: [14:56] <fawkes28> pffft [14:56] <Love4Fawkes> it is so true! [14:56] <ProngsPatronus> and the serious writing about HP--some of it is just plain excellent stuff [14:56] <LJ> I love doing the Contests - I get to see so many different aspects of creativeness [14:56] <TheGuruOfSloth> I was a casual fan at best until I read HBP [14:57] <NimbusFlyer> So true, Prongs! [14:57] <fawkes28> i love how we can discuss certain topics over and over again and never get tired of them [14:57] <TheGuruOfSloth> and only read the others a few months beofre that [14:57] <LJ> the Fan Art, Fan Fics, Crafts etc. that people have made are awesome! [14:57] * fawkes28 thinks LJ is great at trivia [14:57] <Joyhawk2121> So was I Guru [14:57] <LJ> haha, thanks fawkes [14:57] <Sophia40> I haven't really got into the fanfic. [14:57] <JaneMarple9> i am quite found of Unfogging Deathly Hallows too smile [14:57] <LJ> just needed to be quicker (or less of a lag tongue ) [14:58] <cloudpic> I got my posting start in that thread Jane... only it was Unfogging something else then [14:58] <Sophia40> I love all the threads at unfogging DH [14:58] <NimbusFlyer> I was entralled by the literary alchemy throughout--but didn't know it. I was HBP desperation that couased me to try TLC. [14:58] <fawkes28> i read one fanfic that is amazing - it was written between books 4 and 5 - and havent really read anything since [14:58] <LJ> Unfogging the Future ccloudpic [14:58] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [14:58] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [14:58] <fawkes28> it was called After the End [14:58] <cloudpic> Yes! thanks, Prongs! [14:58] <Love4Fawkes> I haven't gotten into much fanfic, but I will [14:59] <fawkes28> we had a great alchemy chat in here the other day - i need to start posting in that thread now [14:59] <cloudpic> I'm wary of most fanfic... until DH comes out... I don't want to confuse my little pea brain with other than canon stories [14:59] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, I haven't been willing to read any fanfic, but maybe when the series is complete [14:59] <Love4Fawkes> I need to try to understand alchemy! [14:59] <Sophia40> I love the Lexicon also!!! the Black family tapestry is cool! [14:59] <cloudpic> LOL snap guru! [14:59] <Dreamteam> I read one fanfic that had Sirius working as a coffee bar manager because he was in hiding from the Ministry, he was working for Harry undercover and then found love [14:59] <TheGuruOfSloth> ;) [14:59] <LJ> I read fan fics by the same author - books 5 and 6. They were both novel length and they were amazing! [14:59] <Love4Fawkes> I'm right with you there cloud [14:59] <Dreamteam> just can't rememebr the name of it. [14:59] *** TheGuruOfSloth left #lounge [] [14:59] <fawkes28> we have a thread in the book club too, love [14:59] <cloudpic> Oh, Sophia! that's so true... I could spend hours in the Lexicon [14:59] <LJ> that was before OoTP was published [15:00] *** Poet has joined #lounge [15:00] <Theoriser> The Meeting with the Goddess: For the Hero-Reader, there's no question that the author herself, J.K. Rowling fits the role of goddess. She has made personal appearances, sits for interviews, makes announcements on her official website, and has given us the WOMBATs for our diversion. Which hints or clues directly from Rowling have particularly intrigued you? [15:00] <Aradragoon> i read a fanfic recently quite lengthy but good [15:00] *** TheGuruOfSloth has joined #lounge [15:00] <cloudpic> I was rather taken aback to hear how important alchemy was to JKR's preparation [15:00] <Poet> Telling us that there is more than meets the eye with Petunia [15:00] <fawkes28> i loved hang man on her website [15:01] <Theoriser> telling us someone will do magic later in life [15:01] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [15:01] <Love4Fawkes> I just love her website in general. its perfect for HP fans! [15:01] <Aradragoon> That harry's eyes are important [15:01] <Sophia40> I the Why DD had James invisablity cloak? is my favorite! [15:01] <fawkes28> I think her website is just awesome - it is such a great way to communicate with us - Dickens never got a chance to do that [15:01] <cloudpic> I'm glad she squelches the really off target theories [15:01] <cloudpic> Yes! Sophia... I'd forgotten that [15:01] *** kadi has quit [Bye] [15:01] *** LJ has joined #lounge [15:01] <fawkes28> i love how she squashes rumors - like Neville and the bubble gum wrapper [15:01] *** Puzzlepiece has joined #lounge [15:01] <Dreamteam> yes I like her Rumours section [15:01] <JaneMarple9> sad [15:02] <Poet> Me too, it's great that she doesn't want us wasting time and setting ourselves up for a big letdown when a theory is wildly off-based and gaining unhelpful attention [15:02] <JaneMarple9> i liked that theory too! [15:02] <Dreamteam> and I loved finding all the scrapbook pieces [15:02] <ProngsPatronus> I was intrigued by the deaths for this book [15:02] *** TheGuruOfSloth has quit [Bye] [15:02] <Love4Fawkes> I like that she told us DD really is dead and we don't have to deal with that mess! [15:02] *** TheGuruOfSloth has joined #lounge [15:02] <cloudpic> It really tickles me that JKR is familiar with fandom and the message boards [15:02] <fawkes28> I also love the wombats - how creative is that [15:02] * cloudpic soooo would love to think she's an actual member of Leaky... not just a Lurker! [15:02] * fawkes28 wishes we would get the results tomorrow [15:02] <JaneMarple9> yayyy for wombats!! [15:02] <TheGuruOfSloth> makes me wonder how she chooses which theories to squish [15:02] <Love4Fawkes> I love that too cloud [15:02] * JaneMarple9 hopes with kelly too [15:02] <fawkes28> I have my theories that she is a member [15:02] <Poet> hehe [15:03] *** Theoriser has quit [Bye] [15:03] <Dreamteam> she said its the ones that she knows are going nowhere [15:03] <fawkes28> I think she came in a chat once but the other mods think I am crazy [15:03] <cloudpic> I don't remember which theory, but a friend told her about one that bothered him [15:03] <NimbusFlyer> Have you ever posted with your suspect, Fawkes? [15:03] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [15:03] <TheGuruOfSloth> ah, that makes sense Dreamteam [15:03] <Love4Fawkes> i wouldn't be surprised [15:03] <cloudpic> fawkes!!!! [15:03] <cloudpic> Yipe! [15:03] <Aradragoon> oh that love is important [15:03] * cloudpic hopes she joins an RG to discuss DH biggrin [15:03] <fawkes28> the person only has one post [15:04] <Sophia40> I think that all the hints JKR has given about the the books and movie has just increased the obsession. [15:04] <fawkes28> and did come in the booth once [15:04] <TheGuruOfSloth> haha, how sweet would that be? laugh [15:04] <Puzzlepiece> that would go with it [15:04] <NimbusFlyer> Interesting.... [15:04] <cloudpic> 't would be glorious! [15:04] <Poet> We were actually discussing Jo's interviews that chat [15:04] <cloudpic> LOL... you're half of many things, guru [15:04] <ProngsPatronus> :-) [15:04] <fawkes28> it was when we were doing Jo's inteviews and the person is from Scotland [15:04] <cloudpic> Sheesh. [15:04] <fawkes28> so it could be [15:04] <fawkes28> but no one believes me [15:04] <Puzzlepiece> aww fawkes [15:04] <LJ> we know she's definitely been to LL a few times - as she's mentioned some of the things posted (and I think even quoted some people from the TLC comments) [15:04] * cloudpic does. [15:04] <Love4Fawkes> She had to have been on Leaky in order to nominate it award it [15:05] <Puzzlepiece> oo Love I'll switch colours [15:05] <Love4Fawkes> I believe you fawkes [15:05] <fawkes28> yes, she does come on but probably just as a guest [15:05] <Love4Fawkes> no don't its ok [15:05] <cloudpic> Well, that's true... but that would have been just the news part, ? [15:05] <Poet> Obviously there's a lot she can't say in her interviews, but I do love the fact that she tries to be honest with us, and that she takes the time to answer reader-submitted questions [15:05] <Puzzlepiece> she recently quoted Melissa's spoiler warning [15:05] <cloudpic> Our "goddess" certainly is down to earth. [15:05] <Theoriser> but if she was a member she wouldn't want to draw attention to it [15:05] <fawkes28> which was awesome! [15:06] <Love4Fawkes> that is true cloud [15:06] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, if she were, I don't think she'd tell anyone [15:06] <ProngsPatronus> yes, poet--I like that she doesn't try to mislead us [15:06] <TheGuruOfSloth> but I doubt she'd have much time to read and post [15:06] <cloudpic> It tickles me that she gets a kick out of everyone's theorizing [15:06] <LJ> Yeah - if she told people who she was LL would blow up with all the people posting biggrin [15:06] <Theoriser> from the things she says it sounds like she visits the fan sites a lot [15:06] <fawkes28> yes, i thnk she will miss that [15:06] *** ph63915 left #lounge [] [15:06] <TheGuruOfSloth> probably just gets pointed to things occasionally by others [15:06] <cloudpic> Yeah... that makes sense. [15:06] <fawkes28> she only has 26 days - maybe she will be on even more [15:06] <Aradragoon> yea [15:06] <Love4Fawkes> i think she said on her site she was visiting sites during breaks in writing [15:06] <cloudpic> LOL... fawkes you are a beautiful dreamer! [15:06] <Dreamteam> she might visit more now because she'll have more time [15:07] <Love4Fawkes> she'll be around after the 21st for sure! probably just as a lurker, but she'll be around [15:07] <fawkes28> i am an idealistic [15:07] <fawkes28> thus i believe harry will live [15:07] <Poet> This is an interesting time in our relation with the Goddess. She has more time to descend, and soon won't have to worry about spoiling us [15:07] <ProngsPatronus> I think she might visit to see how we are taking the last book [15:07] <JaneMarple9> harry livvveeeeeeeeeeeessssssss!!!!!!!!!! [15:07] <LJ> I'm sure she'll be on the sites a lot leading up to DH - she'll want to see her fans reactions/thoughts etc. before the last book [15:07] <fawkes28> maybe I am Jo laugh [15:07] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, that will be great - we can ask her anything, and she can choose whether or not she wants to tell us - but she doesn't have to worry about spoiling us! [15:07] <fawkes28> just kidding! [15:07] <Aradragoon> lol [15:07] <JaneMarple9> nah...you're fawkes! [15:07] <Love4Fawkes> she will continue to spoil us for a while i think [15:07] <fawkes28> poet has met me laugh [15:07] <Poet> Nah. Just a phoenix. [15:07] <cloudpic> I wish she'd have some sort of talk just for older folks... [15:07] <Dreamteam> she did say she'd often enjoyed reading the theories so she must spend some time here even as a lurker if not member [15:07] <Puzzlepiece> I would love her to point out explicitly who exactly was right, but I know she wont [15:07] <Aradragoon> who knows [15:08] <LJ> ooh, will I be staying with Jo in London? tongue [15:08] <Aradragoon> maybe jo is refuting some of the theories on here and we don't know it her [15:08] <ProngsPatronus> we'll know [15:08] <Poet> I agree cloudpic [15:08] <TheGuruOfSloth> or starting incorrect ones ;) [15:08] <Aradragoon> no [15:08] <ProngsPatronus> not her style, guru [15:08] <Puzzlepiece> she would [15:08] <Aradragoon> i don't believe she would want to lure the reader away from the truth [15:08] <cloudpic> LOL.... I'm betting the wrong ones are the ones she gets the biggest giggles from [15:08] <Puzzlepiece> she loves us to much to play with our brains [15:08] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, I'm sure she wouldn't [15:08] <fawkes28> maybe you will, LJ [15:08] *** harrycrazed has joined #lounge [15:08] <Aradragoon> she may tell a half truth [15:08] <NimbusFlyer> Her generosity in sharing her creative journey still amazes me [15:08] <fawkes28> i'll give ya the book ahead of time! [15:08] <Theoriser> Though Guru contends we can trust the good intentions of the author, he suggests we be "on guard against her clever riddles and frequently multi-layered statements." Which hints do you think have lead people astray? Have you enjoyed using the recent cover art and WOMBAT hints in speculation? Do you crave a release of two or three chapter titles? [15:09] <cloudpic> She's said that some folks have gotten wonderfully close to the "truth" of a key idea [15:09] <Aradragoon> and let us interpret it wrong but she wont lie to us [15:09] <TheGuruOfSloth> hmm, I dunno if that's true, Puzzle! but I agree she wouldn't start false rumors [15:09] *** harrycrazed has quit [Bye] [15:09] <Dreamteam> yes I really want chapter titles [15:09] <Puzzlepiece> I want chapter titles and maybe an exerpt, but no more [15:09] <LJ> woot Jo (fawkes) [15:09] <ProngsPatronus> nope [15:09] <cloudpic> I think her "red herrings" are intriguing... she's like a great mystery writer! [15:09] <Dreamteam> we need time to come up with all the wild theories [15:09] <fawkes28> i have been dying for chapter titles [15:09] <ProngsPatronus> I am content with nothing [15:09] <Puzzlepiece> I think when I get the book though, I will read the last page. I cant resist spoilers [15:09] <Love4Fawkes> I do not want chapter titles [15:09] <Joyhawk2121> yes I crave some chapter titles [15:09] <Poet> Oh, her frequent, "Sorry I can't tell you that." We always wonder what she can't tell :d [15:09] <fawkes28> and was soooo disappointed on summer solistice [15:09] <Aradragoon> i think chapter titles may give away to much [15:09] <ProngsPatronus> I don't want to know until I have that book in my hands [15:10] <Love4Fawkes> oh that is so WRONG puzzle [15:10] * cloudpic thinks Prongs is zen [15:10] <NimbusFlyer> The repsonse where she said something like "The Prophecy is worded very carfeully." [15:10] <Sophia40> I would love to have chapter titles! [15:10] <TheGuruOfSloth> I love it how her attempts to "put us on the right track" usually merely open up huge arenas of speculation! [15:10] <cloudpic> Ack! Puzzle! [15:10] <TheGuruOfSloth> like "DD's family would be a fruitful line of inquiry" or whatever laugh [15:10] <Puzzlepiece> i know Love. but i have for all books I really really want to read. I cant resist. I did for HBP [15:10] <Dreamteam> well they didn't give much away last time, remember all the discussion about "Who is Felix Felicis"? [15:10] <Poet> Also, her wizard of the month and the wizard birthdays. Some of them put us in a tizzy, wondering why she chose that person [15:10] <ProngsPatronus> oooo--puzzle, you know what happens to people who do that? It is worse than breaking a mirror... [15:10] <Aradragoon> it is worded very carefully [15:10] <cloudpic> She's brilliant with figuring out how to give just enough information to tantalize [15:10] * ProngsPatronus thinks so, too! [15:11] <fawkes28> she loves to see how crazy we go for the slighest bit of information [15:11] <cloudpic> Yeah... I spent waaaay too much time studying that picture of Ms. Hufflepuff! [15:11] <Love4Fawkes> I think her saying she worded the prophecy carefully was just to make us think! [15:11] <Poet> The WOMBATS for sure cause lots of speculation. They are full of multiple possibilties [15:11] <Puzzlepiece> see I dont know what its like to read a book without doing that. like - I knew Harry Hermione and Ron would live through HBP [15:11] <NimbusFlyer> It asure worked, Love and Ara! [15:11] <Aradragoon> The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches... born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives... the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies..." [15:11] <cloudpic> It hurt my brain I thought about that prophecy so much! [15:11] <cloudpic> Yikes, Aradragoon! [15:11] <Love4Fawkes> yes it did Nimbus and Jo just loves that I'm sure! [15:11] <Puzzlepiece> the prophecy would be worded carefully anyways [15:12] <Aradragoon> lol [15:12] <cloudpic> This WOMBAT seemed especially intriguing [15:12] <Aradragoon> it is worded VERY carefully [15:12] <fawkes28> yes, i think it gave some great clues [15:12] <Aradragoon> Harry can only be killed by VM according to that and vice versa [15:12] <Poet> I don't mind that we don't have chapter titles this time [15:12] <Sophia40> Wow Aradragoon is that in your head [15:12] <NimbusFlyer> It's still thinking about it it, Cloud. Ouch! [15:12] <cloudpic> LOL... this morning I got all excited reading HBP and noticing Slughorn's connection to a student who works now at Gringots with the goblins [15:12] <Puzzlepiece> I loved the WOMBAT as a way of spoiling us. Maybe that was instead of chapter titles [15:12] <Aradragoon> yea... i have no life XD [15:12] <fawkes28> magical creatures are definitely going to be important [15:12] <Love4Fawkes> oh I have to get my son a snack. I'll brb [15:12] <cloudpic> I'm a believer, fawkes [15:13] <NimbusFlyer> VERY carfeully--and she just HAD to remind us of that fact! :P [15:13] <Poet> All those goblin wars! [15:13] <Puzzlepiece> I think the WOMBAT confirmed it to be a goblin on the cover [15:13] <Theoriser> I agree poet and fawkes [15:13] <Aradragoon> any1 know when Neville was born? [15:13] <cloudpic> Those goblin hints are really getting to me. I wish I'd paid more attention in History of Magic class LOL [15:13] <ProngsPatronus> I felt like HArry after that teat [15:13] <Puzzlepiece> July 30 I think [15:13] <Poet> Neville was July 20th I [15:13] <cloudpic> The day before Harry, Aradragoon. [15:13] *** immaHPfreak has joined #lounge [15:13] *** cbm has joined #lounge [15:13] <cloudpic> I think. [15:13] <Poet> ....believe [15:13] <Puzzlepiece> let me check [15:13] <Aradragoon> ah [15:13] <immaHPfreak> hello all [15:13] <fawkes28> yay, puzzlepiece! i have been arguing goblin since it came out [15:13] <cloudpic> Maybe not [15:13] <cbm> Hi everyone! [15:13] <ProngsPatronus> july 30th [15:14] <ProngsPatronus> for neville [15:14] <cbm> Dobbu [15:14] <fawkes28> her immaHPfreak and cbm smile [15:14] <cbm> dobby [15:14] <cloudpic> Hey, cbm [15:14] <fawkes28> watch this.... [15:14] <Joyhawk2121> Hi cbm [15:14] <fawkes28> cbm, goblin [15:14] <NimbusFlyer> Prof. Binns was Charlie Brown's teacher, cloud [15:14] <Sophia40> Neville was born at the same time as Harry [15:14] <Aradragoon> ok [15:14] <ProngsPatronus> cbm! [15:14] <Aradragoon> neville was a day before [15:14] <NimbusFlyer> Wah wha wah [15:14] <fawkes28> hahahaha he already said it [15:14] <fawkes28> so smart that cbm [15:14] <cloudpic> LOL.... and so that's why I had so much trouble! [15:14] <fawkes28> goblin [15:14] <Puzzlepiece> lexicon says 30 [15:14] <Poet> Listening to her interviews rather than reading them always sheds new possibilites on her statements - and adds more possible layers [15:14] <cloudpic> ;) [15:14] <Theoriser> Temptation from the True Path: This stage of the Hero-Reader's journey might be a temptation to take an easier road. The siren song of the film release may tempt the Reader from what Guru calls "the ultimate source…those words on the page." Which has given you greater delight: film or book? How do you reconcile differences? [15:15] <TheGuruOfSloth> good point, Poet - lots of nuance in the voice [15:15] <Love4Fawkes> that's true poet [15:15] * TheGuruOfSloth makes an admission - I just needed something to fit that spot laugh [15:15] <ProngsPatronus> books, always [15:15] <Puzzlepiece> and her emphasis [15:15] <cloudpic> I'm a book person... though I've seen each of the movies at least once. [15:15] <cloudpic> LOLOLOL [15:15] <fawkes28> the books - never the movies [15:15] <cloudpic> But it works! [15:15] <fawkes28> movies are not canon [15:15] <Puzzlepiece> books [15:15] <Love4Fawkes> I'm a book person and I'm unable to reconsile the differences [15:15] <NimbusFlyer> The films are ever just a time filler for me, I do enjoy them tho' [15:15] <cbm> I try to ignore the films for the most part when it come to what I believe is going to happen. [15:15] <LJ> books! [15:15] <Joyhawk2121> I prefer the books [15:15] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, it's books times a billion for me [15:15] <Dreamteam> definitely the books [15:15] <Puzzlepiece> movies I only watch 2 or 3 times. Books I know pages off by heart [15:15] <Love4Fawkes> i agree fawkes [15:15] <Theoriser> looking back I don't like the films much at all [15:15] <LJ> I'm not a fan of the movies [15:16] <immaHPfreak> the books give so much more delight... the movies just don't capture the characters the way rowling does [15:16] <Dreamteam> the films only show half the story [15:16] <Theoriser> I'm always excited for the new film though [15:16] <NimbusFlyer> Except the one that may not be named :P [15:16] <Dreamteam> but they're a good add-on [15:16] <Love4Fawkes> when I was a new member people were trying to use movies as canon and it drove me nuts!! [15:16] <TheGuruOfSloth> poor GregoryTheSmarmy practically cries every time she thinks about the fact that I saw the first 3 movies beofre I read the books... [15:16] <cloudpic> Although... I did love watching that dragon crawl around on the roof of Hogwarts [15:16] <Sophia40> I love the books! but I like the movies to. The books are way better though! [15:16] <fawkes28> oh, no Guru [15:16] <fawkes28> the first three? [15:16] <cloudpic> Oh, dear! You did! [15:16] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah... [15:16] <cloudpic> I'm shocked! [15:16] <fawkes28> *sigh* [15:16] <cloudpic> awwwww... [15:16] <Dreamteam> Guru thats terrible [15:16] <Poet> I'm most anticipating the scenes with Dumbledore's Army practices [15:16] <Puzzlepiece> 3. Oh gosh [15:16] <TheGuruOfSloth> but I probably wouldn't have read them otherwise, so... [15:16] <fawkes28> well, you are here now so that is all that matters [15:16] <LJ> totally understand the way she feels, guru [15:16] <Love4Fawkes> oh that's so wrong guru. i join the crying [15:16] <Joyhawk2121> I remember that Love 4 [15:17] <cloudpic> Yeah... I can't wait for those either Poet! [15:17] <ProngsPatronus> I bet the movies sparked your intrest in the books, though, guru [15:17] <Dreamteam> oh well, you're redeemed [15:17] <fawkes28> you didnt want to read it after the first one? [15:17] <Puzzlepiece> I was like 8 and waiting for POA to come out in book form! [15:17] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah, the first two were fun but didn't impress me that much [15:17] <cbm> But I do sometimes get ideas from the movies, such as the basilisk fang having Harry's blood, I did not think of that until after I saw the movie [15:17] <immaHPfreak> i dont really like the movies... it's one thing to cut out parts, i understand.. but it often leaves the movies missing certain themes, feelings and moods the book gives you i think [15:17] <TheGuruOfSloth> but I thought PoA had a lot more going on... [15:17] <fawkes28> hahahaha - he is redeemed - funny, you are dreamteam [15:17] <cloudpic> I want to see Umbridge bested by Fred and George... "Give her h... from us, Peeves!" [15:17] <Love4Fawkes> I haven't even seen the PoA or GoF movie [15:17] <Dreamteam> LOL [15:17] <Aradragoon> o.o [15:18] <Puzzlepiece> not missing much Love [15:18] <Love4Fawkes> i know! [15:18] <cloudpic> I've been hooked on the books since the first book was released in the United States. (thanks to Time magazine and Amazon) [15:18] <Puzzlepiece> IMO [15:18] <Poet> I reconcile the differences by telling myself the movies are not canon, but "inspired by canon". They are another genre for expressing Jo's world. [15:18] <Aradragoon> didn't jo say she saw something in one of the movies she didnt mean to happen that foreshadows what will happen in book 7? [15:18] <TheGuruOfSloth> I enjoy the movies, but I don't get too excited for them, really - especially this one, so close to the book [15:18] <cloudpic> Yes, I'm still wondering what that might be [15:18] <immaHPfreak> even the GoF movie... like the way Barty Crouch Jr is.... like when he gets caught.. he's trying to run away from the council... why? it was so much m ore interesting.. and added so much more dynamic when he was pleading innocence and looked young and well... innocent [15:18] <Joyhawk2121> I liked all the movies but the books aer the way to go [15:18] <fawkes28> yes, i read the first four books and then the first movie came out [15:18] <Love4Fawkes> I'm so jealous cloud. i didn't find them until PoA was about to be released [15:18] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [15:18] <cloudpic> I likely won't see Order of the Phoenix until well after I read DH [15:18] <cbm> It was book 6 and I think it was beaky protecting Harry and Hermione [15:19] <Puzzlepiece> ooh poor Love. I remember when the title of POA was released and pouring over it [15:19] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:19] <cloudpic> Yes... but the waits were rather long, Love4Fawkes! [15:19] <Puzzlepiece> I wont see OOTP until a month after I read DH! [15:19] <LJ> me neither cloud [15:19] <cbm> I picked my 1st book up xmas eve, 1999 [15:19] <Theoriser> Will you go see the film Order of the Phoenix before the release of Deathly Hallows? What scene from the book are you most anticipating on film? Which interest came first for you, the books or the films? [15:19] <Dreamteam> I liked PoA but there are things that really annoy me, like Harry not saying Yes when Sirius asked him to go live with him. One little word, that's all it needed [15:19] <Love4Fawkes> I'm sure they were cloud! the waits have been long since! [15:19] <LJ> or maybe I'll see it in London when I go for DH [15:19] <Aradragoon> DA meetings [15:19] <Sophia40> I went to a church that was against them! I don't go there anymore! [15:19] <Puzzlepiece> NO I will not. Not by choice. I dont have means to go see it [15:19] <fawkes28> yes, i am going to see the movie before the book [15:19] <Dreamteam> Yes, I'll go see the film straightaway [15:19] <TheGuruOfSloth> I probably will. [15:19] <Love4Fawkes> I might see this movie [15:20] *** immaHPfreak has quit [Bye] [15:20] <cbm> There is so much I like about that book, it is hard to say [15:20] <Love4Fawkes> maybe [15:20] <Sophia40> The DA meetings for me too! [15:20] <cloudpic> I want to see the battle in the Ministry too, I think.... see how they manage that [15:20] <Joyhawk2121> I will see the movie before the book [15:20] <fawkes28> However, I would rather there be no movies and have Jo write several more books [15:20] <fawkes28> me too, cloudpic [15:20] <Dreamteam> the only film I didn't like was GoF because it was so disjointed [15:20] <Aradragoon> oh yes [15:20] <Puzzlepiece> favourite book! And it seems they did a good job [15:20] <Aradragoon> thsat would be nice [15:20] <cbm> agreed fawkes [15:20] <TheGuruOfSloth> I definitely want to see the movie in theaters, so... [15:20] <Puzzlepiece> me too fawkes [15:20] <cloudpic> I hope Neville's bits aren't ignored in the film... he really shown in OotP [15:20] <Love4Fawkes> it does seem they did a good job puzzle [15:20] <Puzzlepiece> well St Mungos is out I think Guru [15:20] <Puzzlepiece> I mean cloud [15:20] <LJ> I'd like to see the film before the book - just to see if they miss anything out that needs to be there tongue or if there's something that foreshadows DH [15:20] <cloudpic> The only films I've seen in theaters in years have been HP [15:21] <Joyhawk2121> I want to see the Blacks house [15:21] <cbm> the book is so long, they have to leave quite a bit out to fit it in [15:21] <Love4Fawkes> no St. Mungos might not bother me [15:21] <cloudpic> Spoken by a critic-at-heart book lover, LJ [15:21] <Love4Fawkes> actually, who am I kidding. it will [15:21] <Puzzlepiece> but tis such a heart wrenching scene [15:21] <cloudpic> Ah... yes, Joyhawk.. that dreary place [15:21] <Dreamteam> yes really want to see the Black house [15:21] <Dreamteam> and the tapestry [15:21] * cloudpic makes a note to take mannnnny tissues along to the movie [15:21] <fawkes28> the scene between dumbledore and voldemort needs to be perfect or else i will not be happy [15:21] <Aradragoon> I'd like to know who they tried to take out [15:21] <Love4Fawkes> I'd like to see the cleaning of the drawing room with all those fairies! [15:21] <fawkes28> Dumbledore needs to be calm in that scene [15:22] <Sophia40> the whole candy wrapper scene is heart wrenching [15:22] <Joyhawk2121> Yes, I want to see where Sirus lives [15:22] <NimbusFlyer> We can trust Raolph at least! [15:22] <Love4Fawkes> it will not be perfect fawkes, sorry [15:22] <ProngsPatronus> too bad they can't recast the DD part [15:22] <Puzzlepiece> I know. [15:22] <Love4Fawkes> i know [15:22] <Dreamteam> yes PP I'd like that too [15:22] <cloudpic> The film-in-your-head is always best, don't you think? [15:22] <cbm> The prophecy scene will be very interesting, I want to see how that works out [15:22] <Love4Fawkes> it is [15:22] <NimbusFlyer> Yes... [15:22] <fawkes28> idealistic, love - remember [15:22] <Dreamteam> true [15:22] <LJ> I agree cloudpic [15:22] <Love4Fawkes> oh yes [15:22] <cbm> I agree comjpletely cloudpic [15:22] <fawkes28> yes, cloudpic [15:22] <ProngsPatronus> I have to say, I am looking forward to the Astronomy tower for that one reason alone [15:23] <Joyhawk2121> Iagree Prongs [15:23] <Love4Fawkes> the films were helpful in one way: they reminded me that Scotland's terrain was not like America's [15:23] <fawkes28> i hope they do it justice, Prongs [15:23] <cloudpic> ?????? [15:23] <cbm> very true [15:23] *** ph63915 has joined #lounge [15:23] <ProngsPatronus> hey, ph [15:23] <ph63915> sorry had to duck out for a while [15:23] <Theoriser> Atonement: "It's the Journey, Not the Destination" What say you: have you enjoyed this process of "living in the books"? Are you in a rush to find out what happens in Deathly Hallows or are you finding that discussing and learning is the true reward? Has this process enhanced your life in some way? [15:24] <LJ> I really hope the film isn't rushed just to fit everything in - I don't want a "blink and you miss half the story" type film [15:24] <fawkes28> discussing is what i am looking forward too [15:24] <Joyhawk2121> good question [15:24] <Love4Fawkes> This process has enhanced my life in more ways than I can say [15:24] <Puzzlepiece> I have loved living in the books [15:24] <Sophia40> I think of the deeper meaning more often than not! [15:24] <fawkes28> i learn a lot more when i chat about it with other people [15:24] <Puzzlepiece> I would rather it come out later. I dont want to stop the chats [15:24] <cbm> I am sad it is ending, I would not mind if it came out next year, but at the same ime I am looking forward to the last one [15:24] <Sophia40> since reading the books [15:24] <ProngsPatronus> I live in the books, myself [15:24] <Joyhawk2121> I have loved living in the books too [15:24] <cbm> time [15:24] <Dreamteam> Its brought me into contact with people I would never have met all around the world which is fantastic, its been worth it for that alone [15:24] <Love4Fawkes> I have loved killing time between books on leaky. discussing theories, meeting great people, but I'm really ready for DH now [15:25] <Puzzlepiece> exactly Dream [15:25] <TheGuruOfSloth> I'd say it has - with the people I've met, one in particular smile But I think it's brought up a lot of life issues that I've thought about or discussed with people that are really important, doo [15:25] <TheGuruOfSloth> *too [15:25] <NimbusFlyer> This amazing journey has given me a vocablary to talk with kids who have expereinced loss--among many other wonderful things (inlcuding the RG"s) [15:25] <fawkes28> you can read them again and again and sitll learn things [15:25] <Joyhawk2121> I agree Love4 [15:25] <TheGuruOfSloth> gah, I hate it that I can't see the end of what I'm writing laugh [15:25] <fawkes28> i did the other day when someone posted something i never noticed before [15:25] <Puzzlepiece> I have really enhanced my own writing through the online community [15:25] <LJ> it's bitersweet - I want the book, to find out how the series ends - but don't want it to be over just yet. I've enjoyed this time of discussing/theorising sooo much! [15:25] <cbm> Everytime I go through a book, I learn more [15:25] *** Sophia40 has quit [Bye] [15:26] <Love4Fawkes> the discussing/theorising will continue though! [15:26] <TheGuruOfSloth> totally, cbm [15:26] <Dreamteam> The books have created wonderful discussions with my daughter too, [15:26] <Love4Fawkes> me too cbm [15:26] <Dreamteam> that's been wonderful [15:26] <fawkes28> yes, puzzlepiece - you have to be on top of your game when writing because people do challenge you on here, which i love [15:26] <Dreamteam> its will seem strange that we aren't waiting for another book. [15:26] <TheGuruOfSloth> mmhmm [15:26] <fawkes28> it's really does bring people together, dreamteam [15:26] <Love4Fawkes> it use to be that I read all the books through once or twice in between releases. I think I've read them through 4 or 5 times this time! [15:26] <Dreamteam> apart from maybe the encyclopaedia [15:26] <cbm> The reading groups were wonderful for me, it forced me to look at each book 2 or 3 chapters at a time [15:26] <Dreamteam> if it comes out [15:26] <fawkes28> oh, gosh - let's not think about that [15:26] <fawkes28> we still have 26 days that we need to make the most of [15:26] <Theoriser> I'm in the middle of rereading all of them [15:27] <Dreamteam> Yes I loved the RGs, I made some great friends there [15:27] <Theoriser> I tried to before HBP, but had to give up [15:27] <Puzzlepiece> I have 3 left sad [15:27] <LJ> yeah LLove - I don't think the discussions/theorising will ever end - but there'll be some theories thatt will obviously fall apart tongue [15:27] <Love4Fawkes> the RG's are GREAT11 [15:27] <NimbusFlyer> It really is an amzing group, too, Fawles [15:27] <TheGuruOfSloth> me too, Dreamteam! [15:27] <Love4Fawkes> That will be fun to LJ [15:27] <fawkes28> i have my theories written down [15:27] <Puzzlepiece> my only regret is not being old enough to find the online community before the earlier book releases [15:27] <cbm> I just wished would could of had one for HBP, it is the book I know least [15:27] <ProngsPatronus> I think I love the tension between the speculation, and the realisation that it is time for the last book [15:27] <fawkes28> so i can come back to them after i read it [15:27] <Love4Fawkes> I can't wait to see the harry is a horcrux theory crash! [15:28] <Puzzlepiece> me too Love [15:28] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [15:28] <Love4Fawkes> me too puzzle, except I was old enough. i just didn't [15:28] <NimbusFlyer> :D [15:28] <JaneMarple9> nor can i Love [15:28] <cbm> There are numerous theories that will crash smile [15:28] <Aradragoon> id like to see it but i dont think it will crash [15:28] <Dreamteam> I'm hoping it crashes [15:28] <Puzzlepiece> I also want to see a few 'ships crash! [15:28] <NimbusFlyer> Will Alchemy crash? [15:28] <ProngsPatronus> nope [15:28] <fawkes28> never [15:28] <Dreamteam> no I don't think so [15:28] <fawkes28> alchemy is going to be highly important [15:28] <Theoriser> The Ultimate Boon: Deathly Hallows' Release Date. How did you react when you learned the date? How did it fit in with your Real Life plans? Would you have preferred something different? [15:28] <LJ> nope [15:28] <TheGuruOfSloth> what I don't want to see are people running around claiming they got it right - I doubt if anyone can get it dead on... [15:29] <TheGuruOfSloth> alchemy can't crash b/c it's too easy to make it fit whatever happens tongue [15:29] <Love4Fawkes> I immediately IM'ed my brother!! [15:29] <ProngsPatronus> 07-07-07 [15:29] <Puzzlepiece> I cried. And cried. Especially since I am not home as it comes around [15:29] <fawkes28> that is true - guru - Jo always does somethign we do not expect [15:29] <NimbusFlyer> LOL Guru! [15:29] <Dreamteam> I told my mother I won't be making her lunch that weekend, my sister will have to do it because I'll be tucked away [15:29] <cbm> I made sure I dad nothing planned for that weekend, I took the monday off following [15:29] <JaneMarple9> i found out on the Lounge [15:29] <Love4Fawkes> of course he already knew. he lives in front of his computer [15:29] <ProngsPatronus> oh, there will be plenty of that, guru--there already is [15:29] <Dreamteam> then I planned the week off work [15:29] <Theoriser> I didn't want the book so soon, I wanted to wait at least another year before it had to end [15:29] <JaneMarple9> and i came right into here biggrin [15:29] <NimbusFlyer> I was A-mazed! [15:29] <LJ> I wanted it later! So many people can't come to London (or Edinburgh as we then thought) because it was so soon [15:29] <Love4Fawkes> oh I came here too [15:30] <NimbusFlyer> At how she was able to finish in such a timely way [15:30] <fawkes28> i was relieved because i thought it was going to be on July 31st, which is the day before I am going to Prophecy - it would have been terrible then [15:30] <JaneMarple9> i didn't want it any later smile [15:30] <Puzzlepiece> I wanted a November release [15:30] <fawkes28> i'm coming, LJ!!1 [15:30] <cbm> I really expected it to be in the fall [15:30] <TheGuruOfSloth> only thing is, I wished I could have been together with my fiance before the book came out, and read it together [15:30] <Love4Fawkes> I was happy it was a summer release [15:30] <JaneMarple9> or even - a Hallowe'en release [15:30] <fawkes28> yes, i thought it would have been perfect for Halloween or All Soul's Day [15:30] <Love4Fawkes> awww Guru [15:30] <ph63915> I'd like it tomorrow but then i'm impatient [15:30] <Poet> Right, alchemy can't crash because its mentioned and used too often in the books smile [15:30] <JaneMarple9> how cool would that have been? biggrin [15:30] <Theoriser> yeah, I'm glad it's a summer release [15:30] <fawkes28> aww, Guru [15:30] <Puzzlepiece> I wish it was nt a summer release [15:30] *** Spectre has joined #lounge [15:30] <LJ> I know fawkes! I so can't wait to meet everyone who will be there! [15:31] <Love4Fawkes> oh it would have been fawkes, but then I would have had to take work off and that wouldn't have worked out well [15:31] <Puzzlepiece> welcome spectre [15:31] <ProngsPatronus> hey, spectre [15:31] <JaneMarple9> i'm happy with a summer release [15:31] <fawkes28> i think it is too soon still - i am not ready for it yet! [15:31] <Spectre> hi all, popped in for a while smile [1 |
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[15:31] <Dreamteam> I didn't want to wait any longer for it
[15:31] <fawkes28> me too, Love [15:31] <Love4Fawkes> I'm ready!! [15:31] <Puzzlepiece> I want another year of speculation! [15:31] <fawkes28> que sera, sera [15:31] <Aradragoon> i was wishing it wasnt the last book [15:31] <Joyhawk2121> I'm happy with a summer release too [15:31] <JaneMarple9> i'm more than ready for it fawkes smile [15:31] <Dreamteam> I've been ready sicne HBP but then I'm not the most patient person [15:31] <ProngsPatronus> I am ready for the next book, personally [15:31] <JaneMarple9> if we waited longer it would be postponing the inevitable [15:31] <Love4Fawkes> i can't stand this much speculation. I think I've read everything I want to read and discussed everything I wanted to discuss [15:31] <Spectre> what's discussed right now? smile [15:32] <Puzzlepiece> It made me happy to see the giant poster in the bookstore, though [15:32] <fawkes28> Jo even said that we will still be able to debate when it is all over [15:32] <TheGuruOfSloth> I think, all told, I am ready for the book - but I'm still fearful of what that means for "eveything else"... [15:32] <NimbusFlyer> After I finally accpted the ending to HBP--I was able to let it be JKR's timing [15:32] *** Poet has quit [Bye] [15:32] <fawkes28> Guru's Chapter from HP7, Spectre [15:32] <Love4Fawkes> I'm sure we will. she's not a wrap it up tight kind of author [15:32] <Theoriser> Refusal of the Return: Doubts and insecurities begin to develop in the Hero-Reader. Are you truly ready? Are you ready to test your theories? Have you ever wondered, what if I don't like it? Most especially have you wondered: what - if - Harry - dies? Could you bear it? Would you rather never know? How do you steel yourself? [15:32] <TheGuruOfSloth> but I know a lot of people will still maintain the community... I really believe that [15:32] <fawkes28> the title is on the side bar [15:32] <Dreamteam> No Harry cannot die [15:33] <Puzzlepiece> I could bear it. If thats how it will end [15:33] <Puzzlepiece> but it wont. Or else there would not be a theme park [15:33] <LJ> HP will never die! [15:33] <Puzzlepiece> or movies [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> never to know for sure? [15:33] * cloudpic will lose $100. [15:33] <fawkes28> I honestly will be ok with anything she does because it is her book - she can write it however she wants too [15:33] <Love4Fawkes> Harry won't die. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the Weaselys. I can't handle Molly's broken heart!! [15:33] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah - I'm ready to accept whatever Jo writes! I just want to see the completion of her vision. [15:33] <Puzzlepiece> hehe cloud [15:33] <NimbusFlyer> LOL, Cloud [15:33] <cbm> I will be so bummed if Harry is dead at the end of book 7. It might go sa far as to ruin the books for me [15:33] <ProngsPatronus> That, surely, is Hades in a nutshell---or is it a handbasket? [15:33] <fawkes28> the only thing i ever said i would be mad about is if it is all a dream, which i cant imagine her doing [15:33] <LJ> (I meant the series then, not the character) [15:33] <Theoriser> Jo said recently that some people won't like the book, so I hope I'm not one of those people! [15:33] <TheGuruOfSloth> haha, that would be horrible, fawkes! [15:33] <cbm> This is not Dallas [15:34] <cloudpic> However she writes it, I suspect we'll bear it... [15:34] <NimbusFlyer> She will not ease up on us. Ever. [15:34] <Spectre> At the end of Narnia's 7th book, everyone effectively died... so anything can be expected [15:34] <fawkes28> that is a good point, spectre [15:34] <Love4Fawkes> I will like whatever Jo writes I'm sure [15:34] <fawkes28> and she says she has been tempted to kill him off [15:34] <Joyhawk2121> I will except Jo's ending [15:34] <cloudpic> Ack! Spectre! I didn't know that! [15:34] <Puzzlepiece> I have full confidence as Jo as my guide through the final journey [15:34] <Dreamteam> I think she will kill at least one loved person so some people will be upset [15:34] <Puzzlepiece> *for Jo [15:34] <cloudpic> Well, said, Puzzle [15:34] <fawkes28> but we can all go dancing on Mr. M's porch when we find out that Harry lives [15:34] <ProngsPatronus> as long as it fits the character, I will accept the ending she writes [15:34] <Love4Fawkes> She'll probably kill more than one [15:35] <Love4Fawkes> sure can fawkes!! [15:35] <Dreamteam> or Tonks [15:35] <Dreamteam> Hope its not Lupin, the Trio or Weasleys [15:35] <Spectre> As long as it isn't massacre... smile [15:35] <NimbusFlyer> Guru's essay helped strengthen my resolve to follow the path as it unfolds [15:35] <Love4Fawkes> At least one weasley is bound to die [15:35] <TheGuruOfSloth> aww! that's nice! [15:35] <TheGuruOfSloth> does Scabbers count? tongue [15:36] <LJ> I'll accept anything Jo writes - afterall, she is the author and it's HER story (I know some fans get mad at her when she write things they don't like!) [15:36] <Spectre> Grand Auntie Muriel... of old age smile [15:36] <Aradragoon> lol maybe we'll get lucky and it will only vbe percy [15:36] <cloudpic> Ohhhh.. yes the rat certainly counts! [15:36] <Dreamteam> nobody would miss Scabbers [15:36] <Puzzlepiece> nooo! I am dead set of Percy proving in book 7 why he is in Gryffindor and NOT dying [15:36] <cbm> I think Percy will play a part in this book [15:36] <Spectre> Or Harry... also of old age, because the last chapter will be a Quibbler article from the year 2100 smile [15:36] <Puzzlepiece> Percy still needs to prove his bravery [15:36] <TheGuruOfSloth> that would actually be a tough blow... if percy dies, it would likely come right after a reconciliation... poor molly, to lose him again... [15:36] <NimbusFlyer> Will he re-unite with his family, cbm? [15:36] <Aradragoon> maybe he will prove he is gryffindor and that will cause him to be killed [15:37] <cloudpic> At one point in my weirdest imaginings... Dumbledore's comment about a well organized mind and death as an adventure made me think thered' be another series [15:37] <Dreamteam> Me too Puzzle, Percy will prove himself [15:37] <Puzzlepiece> that would be amazing Spectre [15:37] <LJ> haha Spectre [15:37] <cbm> Not for real [15:37] <Love4Fawkes> Even percy woudl break Molly's heart and that will be awful!! [15:37] <cloudpic> Lovely thought, Puzzle. [15:37] <LJ> there isn't going to be a prolouge for this book, right? (she did say that didn't she? I'm not just making it up) [15:37] <Theoriser> The Magic Flight: In the Hero's Journey, this stage is often a mad dash to escape the last efforts of opposing forces to prevent the Hero from returning with the Prize. How does the Hero-Reader prepare? As Guru says, it's going to be a "Wild Ride"! How do you prevent "spoiling"? How do you find time to read? How will you get hands on your copy? How will you prevent distractions while reading? [15:37] <Puzzlepiece> Molly deserves a happy ending [15:37] <Love4Fawkes> i heard that too LJ, but I can't remember where [15:37] <cbm> His only redeeming quality is the last name of Weasley, and I do not think that is enough to save him from his want of power [15:38] <cloudpic> I rather liked Gregory the Smarmy's dream of Harry wandering about a graveyard reminiscing about old times.... [15:38] <cloudpic> in his very old age. [15:38] <NimbusFlyer> Ahh-folks--lightening has just started--I gotta go. Awesome discussion of an awesome essay! Take care, everyone1 [15:38] <Theoriser> bye NimbusFlyer [15:38] <Love4Fawkes> Guru, your essay made me realize that I might not be able to read in one sitting. that made me sad! [15:38] <ProngsPatronus> ye, nimbus [15:38] <cloudpic> bye, nimbus! [15:38] <Puzzlepiece> Camp, Visitors day, day after release. Thanks for the book, leave me alone [15:38] <Joyhawk2121> bye Nimbus [15:38] <Puzzlepiece> bye nimbus [15:38] <TheGuruOfSloth> aww... well, you can do it if you're committed! [15:38] <Spectre> bye Nimbus [15:38] <Dreamteam> I will ban the TV and computer, buy frozen pizzas and unplug the phone until its read [15:38] <cbm> I will get my copy at Midnight, and go home and start reading [15:38] <cloudpic> I'm really wary of spoiling... have stopped watching the news already... and avoiding Google news as well [15:38] <TheGuruOfSloth> (but then you might "be committed", so to speak tongue ) [15:39] <Love4Fawkes> i have no child, no work, i am committed! [15:39] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [15:39] <ProngsPatronus> I pre-ordered a copy, and I avoid releases [15:39] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:39] <LJ> (oh just re-read what I wrote - I meant IS, not isn't, going to be a prologue) [15:39] <TheGuruOfSloth> yeah - I guess the only real danger is if some maniac spoils me when I pick up my book [15:39] *** NimbusFlyer has quit [Bye] [15:39] <Puzzlepiece> I might be the only one in my self contained environment with the book, so very few spoilers can come my way [15:39] <Aradragoon> lol close the dfoor turn off the TV and COmputer as well as the phone lock the door [15:39] <Love4Fawkes> I was going to avoid the lounge to avoid spoilers, but that's just not possible any more [15:39] <Joyhawk2121> I have pre-ordered my copy as well [15:39] <ProngsPatronus> I heard that someone has already posted a spoiler online [15:39] <cloudpic> I'm lucky in my release site... they give you the book as you walk out the door... and it's a little shop out in the countryside, so few people [15:39] <fawkes28> yes, love - we just have to keep our fingers crossed [15:39] <TheGuruOfSloth> It's been suggested to put headphones in to drown out any outside noise! [15:40] <Joyhawk2121> I heard that to Prongs [15:40] * cloudpic threatens spoilers with her wand! [15:40] <Spectre> DH is my first HP book I'll be actually getting ready for... but I don't care for spoilers. For me, it'll make the reading even more interesting smile [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> and I try to avoid the spoiler forums [15:40] <fawkes28> but we shouldnt believe any spoilers until we read it - which is hard to except, trust me [15:40] <Dreamteam> I've ordered my daughter's copy online but I want to get mine in the shops, need t find an all night supermarket where there won't be many fans to risk spoiling [15:40] <cbm> I have an mp3 with noise reduction, thanks, I think I will use it [15:40] <cloudpic> That's true [15:40] <Love4Fawkes> mmmm, losts of the spoilers are fake! [15:40] <cloudpic> That's a good idea, cbm [15:40] <fawkes28> well, i was going to do that , guru - but i can't anymore [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> oh, I am sure it is fake [15:40] <TheGuruOfSloth> oh? [15:40] <ProngsPatronus> some people just love spoiling other people's fun [15:40] <Joyhawk2121> I am not believing anything until I read the book myself [15:41] <fawkes28> it would be rude if i did that with Jo [15:41] <fawkes28> smile [15:41] <Aradragoon> pre order it and have it delivered to your house [15:41] <Puzzlepiece> how did the spoiling go so quickly for the death in HBP? [15:41] <Aradragoon> noi one will be around to spoilk it [15:41] <Puzzlepiece> how did people find it in te book? [15:41] <cloudpic> There's a new level of Dante's Inferno being created for those sorry souls! [15:41] <Theoriser> for the last two releases I just lived in a bubble for the weekend as I read the book [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> you betcha, cloudpic! [15:41] <LJ> I'll be getting mine in London and midnight - but sometimes I think going to my local supermarket may be safer tongue [15:41] <fawkes28> i want to hear what Jo has to say so no headphones for me [15:41] <cloudpic> I wasn't spoiled for HBP... and my nephew still hasn't read it and hasn't been spoiled! He has nice friends. [15:41] <LJ> not as much fun as getting it with Leaky friends, but safer biggrin [15:41] <ProngsPatronus> I am not coming onto the Lounge until after I read the book, either [15:42] * Puzzlepiece is once again jealous of fawkes [15:42] <Theoriser> for this one it'll be harder to avoid spoilers, but oh well [15:42] <cloudpic> Constant Vigilance! [15:42] <fawkes28> it's ok i'll tell you all about it after! [15:42] * Spectre swings his wand... Spoilero Obliterato! [15:42] <cloudpic> Bravo! [15:42] <TheGuruOfSloth> ah, i gotcha, fawkes! [15:42] <cbm> I was going to pick up the audio book, but that will take too long [15:42] <Puzzlepiece> I am still banking on the July 2 email from raincoast books [15:42] <cbm> lol [15:43] <LJ> fawkes - I get the pleasure of staying with you - so I can ask you all about it over and over biggrin [15:43] * fawkes28 is very excited [15:43] <Theoriser> Rescue from Without: Whom can you expect to provide the necessary "rescue" from either a too long marathon-read or, not knowing how to "land softly" hence beginning a re-read immediately? Who will suggest that you eat? Bathe? Sleep? How will you keep from snapping at the would-be rescuer? [15:43] <cloudpic> This chat is increasing my excitement exponentially! [15:43] <Dreamteam> Fawkes I need to prepare you a Calming Draught LOL [15:43] <fawkes28> oh, yes you do stay with me after too, LJ - you are lucky! [15:43] <Love4Fawkes> No one, there is no one to rescue me. laugh [15:43] <Puzzlepiece> the others in my cabin [15:44] <Spectre> If I read a book, I read it everywhere [15:44] <Puzzlepiece> will no doubt push me into the dining hall, book and all until I am done [15:44] * fawkes28 will not accept drinks from dreamteam [15:44] <cloudpic> Although if a certain Potions Master creates the Draught....I'd be wary Fawkes! [15:44] <cbm> My wife knows better than to rescue me, I am on my own [15:44] <LJ> I think HPMommy waill rescue me biggrin [15:44] <Aradragoon> i have to agree no one [15:44] <Dreamteam> Pffft [15:44] <LJ> I'll be reading DH right through - then re-starting right away [15:44] <Joyhawk2121> I don't wanna be rescued...lol [15:44] <Theoriser> well, having to go to school on monday will probably be enough of a shock to "rescue" me [15:44] <ProngsPatronus> I don't need rescuing! [15:44] <fawkes28> Marathon reading - I've got too - I am meeting up with people in Edinburgh on Saturday afternoon [15:44] <Love4Fawkes> I won't restart it right away, but I will read it straight through [15:44] <fawkes28> i have to be done by then [15:44] <cloudpic> But... we don't want to be rude to our rescuers...poor lost things don't know what they're missing! [15:44] <LJ> but she won't be reading it as soon as she gets it, so will force me out of my room to go see her tongue [15:44] <Dreamteam> No-one will be rescuing me, daughter and husband will be in there with me [15:44] <Puzzlepiece> I think I will take a break after the first read. take it all in. think about it, yell at others for not caring [15:45] <cbm> I will probably read it straight through and then start listening to the audiobook [15:45] <Love4Fawkes> I took care of an infant and still read HBP in two days [15:45] <cloudpic> Wonderful Dreamteam! [15:45] <ProngsPatronus> are you kidding? My rescuer will be panting for the book after me! [15:45] <Love4Fawkes> i can read DH straight through all by myself smile [15:45] <Puzzlepiece> lovely dream [15:45] <cloudpic> I care for my Mom... she's very understanding, though gets upset if I start to blubbler... [15:45] <fawkes28> no one is getting the book out of my hands [15:45] <cbm> We always get 2 copies, so that is not a problem [15:45] <Spectre> When (if) I get my copy, I'll be getting ready for translation biggrin [15:45] <LJ> mine either fawkes! [15:46] <Puzzlepiece> my copy will, no doubt, be covered in dead mosquitoes by the end [15:46] <Dreamteam> eww [15:46] <cloudpic> So, what about eating? Will others have chocolate-y finger prints on their books as I do? [15:46] <Puzzlepiece> as are #4,5 and 6 [15:46] <fawkes28> i am going to read the signed copy anyway unless someone wants to pick up a regular copy for me *cough*LJ*cough* [15:46] <Dreamteam> frozen pizzas, sandwiches [15:46] <Love4Fawkes> I can read and prepare food at the same time [15:46] <Puzzlepiece> lol fawkes [15:46] <ProngsPatronus> eating? what's that? [15:46] <cbm> I will stock up on junk food [15:46] <TheGuruOfSloth> oh, when I'm lost in a book - it goes everywhere with me [15:46] <Puzzlepiece> mmmm....vigil.... [15:46] <fawkes28> eat while you read [15:46] <cloudpic> That's talent Love4Fawkes! [15:46] <TheGuruOfSloth> I just try to aim the food for my mouth [15:47] <Love4Fawkes> oh, dies of jealousy! A signed copy!!!! [15:47] <fawkes28> me too, guru - everywhere [15:47] <Theoriser> lol same cloudpic [15:47] <Love4Fawkes> I am well practiced cloud [15:47] <LJ> sure I will fawkes! [15:47] <cbm> junk food and diet coke will be my diet for the weekend [15:47] <fawkes28> awesome! [15:47] * cloudpic pictures guru with pizza sauce on one ear [15:47] <LJ> I don't want you getting chocoalte on that one! [15:47] <Puzzlepiece> LOL cloud [15:47] <fawkes28> i dont like chocolate so no worries there [15:47] <TheGuruOfSloth> lol, cloudpic [15:47] <Love4Fawkes> oh I didn't say I would prepare healthy food!@ [15:47] <TheGuruOfSloth> not far off, probably! [15:47] <ph63915> Red bull for me [15:47] <cloudpic> I shall not read my Deluxe Edition first... it'll be another one. [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. [15:48] <Puzzlepiece> american or british copies, all? [15:48] <cloudpic> oooo... that makes me shaky, ph63915... [15:48] <LJ> I'll have a lot of Dairy Milk to hand tongue [15:48] <cbm> US copies [15:48] <TheGuruOfSloth> I'm such a punk about books... and a tightwad, too. I can't believe I'd want a book so bad for it that I'd pay for a hardcover! [15:48] <cloudpic> Both, Puzzle.... I'm getting as many English editions as exist. [15:48] <cloudpic> Oh! I'm jealous! LJ!! [15:48] <ProngsPatronus> me, too, guru--but I sprang for these! [15:48] <TheGuruOfSloth> yep [15:48] <TheGuruOfSloth> had to be done! [15:48] <cbm> Though I do want a UK audio book to match the rest of the ones as I have [15:48] <Love4Fawkes> I want a Deluxe Edition, but cannot spend $65 on a book! [15:48] <Spectre> heh... I'll *try* to get a hand on a British copy, but more likely I'll have to wait for a Russian translation - either fanmade or official [15:48] <fawkes28> well. at least you are not waiting until after the 7th movie, Guru [15:48] <LJ> I'll send you some cloudpic! [15:48] *** MafaldaWeasley has joined #lounge [15:49] <cloudpic> Pitiful. Books are a delightful investment! [15:49] <Dreamteam> I would love to get the boxed set in the trunk, they look fantastic [15:49] * cloudpic drools. [15:49] <Aradragoon> 5 dollars for delux?\ [15:49] <Love4Fawkes> I want a british edition of this book [15:49] <Aradragoon> 65* [15:49] <ProngsPatronus> hey, mafalda [15:49] <Theoriser> Crossing the Return Threshold and the Master of Two Worlds: These two stages take the Hero-Reader from that inevitable shock of returning to the Ordinary World and somehow reconciling fan-life and real-life. How have you found that one "shines a light on the other" as Guru has put it? How has your life been made better by the HP reading and fan experience? [15:49] <cloudpic> Deluxe is cheaper on Amazon [15:49] <Love4Fawkes> that's what scholastic's website said Aradragoon [15:49] <MafaldaWeasley> hello everybody [15:49] <Puzzlepiece> all of them are cheaper on Amazon [15:49] <Spectre> hi Mafalda [15:49] <Aradragoon> i got it for 34 dollars [15:49] <Aradragoon> lol [15:49] <Dreamteam> hi Mafalda [15:49] <Love4Fawkes> Oh that's not bad [15:50] <Aradragoon> then i also got the express shipping adding another 16 dollars x.x [15:50] <ProngsPatronus> well, I can spot a Slytherin personality a mile away! laugh [15:50] <fawkes28> oh gosh - i wouldnt have been able to travel to all these places and meet all the people i have if it wasnt for being in the fandom [15:50] <cbm> It got me back to something I love to do, post on the Internet, I had not done that for about 7 years until I found the lounge [15:50] <LJ> I've met so many friends through HP that I know I'll have for life! [15:50] <fawkes28> i have made such great friends [15:50] <Puzzlepiece> i wouldnt be here! [15:50] <cloudpic> hey, Mafalda..... I find I'm more patient with people since reading/discussing... for that very reason, Prongs [15:50] <Spectre> HP reading eventually led me to Leaky biggrin [15:50] <JaneMarple9> so have I fawkes [15:50] <Dreamteam> yes, its the friendships [15:50] <cloudpic> Yep! the friendships... snap Dream! [15:50] <JaneMarple9> made some wonderful friends [15:50] <JaneMarple9> and lots of them are in here too laugh [15:51] <LJ> guru obviously had a life changing thing happen to him through HP tongue [15:51] <Dreamteam> and I've also learned computer skills that I didn't have before [15:51] <fawkes28> it has become about so much more than the books [15:51] <cbm> This is the best communitiy I have ever found on the Internet, I love it that we all like each other, even if you are on different sides of the Snape debate [15:51] <Love4Fawkes> I'm making wonderful friends and having a great time!! [15:51] <cloudpic> And international friendships are amazing to me still! [15:51] <TheGuruOfSloth> absolutely - the friends [15:51] *** kadi has joined #lounge [15:51] <Puzzlepiece> its about more than the story [15:51] <MafaldaWeasley> hahaha cbm, exactly [15:51] <fawkes28> and sometimes you even wind up getting on the same side, cbm wink [15:51] <Love4Fawkes> I love the international friendships. [15:51] <fawkes28> wb, kadi [15:51] <JaneMarple9> yeah friendship spreads everywhere [15:51] <cbm> LOL [15:51] <fawkes28> me too - i have friends with cool accents! [15:51] <kadi> thanks! sorry i missed so much of the chat! [15:51] <kadi> it was really interesting! [15:51] <Puzzlepiece> I actually believe, had it been any other good story with new ones coming out with mysteries, if it had the same hype, i would be there too [15:51] <Spectre> yeah, it's like the Triwizard Tournament here smile [15:51] <JaneMarple9> laugh [15:52] <cloudpic> The story draws the "right sort" in... perhaps that's it... imagine an RG for, say, Stephen King... might be scary? [15:52] <JaneMarple9> great comparison! [15:52] * Spectre could be a Durmstranger [15:52] <fawkes28> it is one of my favorites chats [15:52] <kadi> ah well 8 more minutes! hehehe [15:52] <Aradragoon> lol [15:52] <Love4Fawkes> That would be scary cloudpic [15:52] <Love4Fawkes> Of course I haven't moved from the computer since Noon and I am neglecting certain other duties! [15:52] <Puzzlepiece> this draws a wider range of ages [15:52] <fawkes28> and i never would have come up with all these theories on my own [15:53] <fawkes28> i learn stuff everyday [15:53] <cloudpic> I think we try our best here to be as open and accepting as Dumbledore or Hagrid? [15:53] <LJ> hey, can you imagine when we're all old (sorry if you already are - I'm only 23 tongue ) telling our grand children how HP changed our lives? [15:53] <cloudpic> Indeed... and it's wonderful, Puzzle! [15:53] <Love4Fawkes> Oh me neither. Guessing who RAB was is a miracle for me! [15:53] <JaneMarple9> yep! [15:53] <Aradragoon> haha [15:53] <fawkes28> it will be hard for them to believe it [15:53] <ProngsPatronus> what I like is that this attracts people of all ages, from everywhere on the globe [15:53] <Aradragoon> that will be interesting love [15:53] <ProngsPatronus> better than the UN [15:53] <cloudpic> Hey... who you calling old!? [15:53] * cloudpic is old. [15:53] <Puzzlepiece> we are the generation that read. No other ages, with all 7 lined up ready for them to read, will get as much pleasure out of them as we do [15:53] <Love4Fawkes> It will be amazing won't it LJ [15:53] <fawkes28> because generations later will not have had the time we did between the books [15:53] <ProngsPatronus> OPAST [15:53] * cbm is old also [15:53] <Aradragoon> *sighs* old people [15:53] <fawkes28> exactly puzzlepiece [15:53] <Love4Fawkes> that's true Puzzle [15:54] <cloudpic> That's a glorious thought, Puzzle! [15:54] <Theoriser> Which of the storylines we've all anticipated do you think will require the most "page-time" and why? The horcrux hunt? A visit behind the veil? A Harry/Snape resolution? The final confrontation between Voldie and Harry? Something else? [15:54] <Puzzlepiece> hehe..we are the best! [15:54] <cbm> The time in the middle is the best [15:54] * cloudpic feels better already. [15:54] <Dreamteam> I envy people who have never read them, they have it all to come [15:54] <Love4Fawkes> When my son is ready to read them he will beable to read them straight through and won't have to wait [15:54] *** RudiusHagrid has joined #lounge [15:54] * Spectre feels like a dinosaur [15:54] <Love4Fawkes> Horcrux hunt [15:54] <cloudpic> I'm thinking the most pages will be devoted to a visit behind the veil. [15:54] <MafaldaWeasley> harry Snape.. hahah I would love to read every single bit of it [15:54] <fawkes28> harry and snape [15:54] <Puzzlepiece> No VISIT behind the veil! [15:54] <cloudpic> hmmmm.... interesting. [15:55] <Aradragoon> horcrux hunt [15:55] <Dreamteam> I think it has to be the horcrux hunt [15:55] <fawkes28> and i think behind the veil too - if he does go [15:55] <Puzzlepiece> the horcrux hunt. hmmph [15:55] <cbm> I want all of it!! [15:55] <kadi> snape [15:55] <Love4Fawkes> I'm not sure that there will be a visit behind the veil [15:55] <ProngsPatronus> hey, rudius [15:55] <cloudpic> heh heh... we'll see! [15:55] <LJ> haha Love - I think most of the book will be about the Horcrux Hunt tongue [15:55] <MafaldaWeasley> I agree with you puzzle [15:55] <fawkes28> oh yeah the horcrux hunt will be the hwole book [15:55] <RudiusHagrid> hi all [15:55] <MafaldaWeasley> hi rudius [15:55] <Dreamteam> Hi Rudius [15:55] <kadi> i think it will all be intertwined but to obtain the last horcrux he will need help from snape [15:55] <cloudpic> I'm not sure the horcurx hunt will be as massive... good point kadi. [15:56] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [15:56] <cloudpic> I'm hoping for some scenes in Hogwarts. With the DA perhaps? [15:56] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [15:56] <cbm> Snape will be no help to Harry on the Horcrux hunt as Harry would never tell him they exist [15:56] <MafaldaWeasley> yes, I would love to see that cp [15:56] <kadi> what makes you think snape doesn't already know? [15:56] <Puzzlepiece> right cbm [15:56] *** LJ has joined #lounge [15:56] <Aradragoon> Voldemort wouldnt trust anyone [15:56] <cbm> Because DD told Harry that he only told Harry [15:57] <Aradragoon> and DD only told Harry [15:57] <cloudpic> Yeah... Snape was helping Dumbledore with that damaged hand, wasn't he? [15:57] <fawkes28> hopefully, DD didnt trust him enough to tell him about what he thinks all of the horcruxes are [15:57] <kadi> so only DD could have known? [15:57] <cloudpic> He might be able to extrapolate as well as we do, anyway. LOL [15:57] <fawkes28> then it will be a race of who will get which one first [15:57] <kadi> nah... snape is a smart fella-- i bet he knows [15:57] <Spectre> Did Snape have any opportunity to Legilimens Harry? [15:57] <Theoriser> If you could ask Jo anything — right now — and expect something other than that sweet smile and a gentle refusal to answer: what would you ask? Would you really want to know the answer before you have your hands on Deathly Hallows? (what's your suspense tolerance-level?) [15:57] <Dreamteam> I think Bill will help Harry and maybe Snape too, if Harry lets him [15:57] *** TheGuruOfSloth has quit [Ping timeout] [15:57] <cloudpic> Will Harry and Ginny have 3, 7 or 12 children. [15:58] <Puzzlepiece> I dont know what I would ask [15:58] <Aradragoon> id ask if she will every write any more books regarding HP [15:58] <kadi> i'm a strict "spoil me and suffer my wrath, read DIE" [15:58] <Dreamteam> I don;t think I would ask her about DH [15:58] <ProngsPatronus> hmmmm--nope, I will wait for the book [15:58] <LJ> I wouldn't want to ask anything [15:58] <LJ> I'd rather read how she puts it in the book [15:58] <Puzzlepiece> Ooh: Can I have your autograph. [15:58] <kadi> i would like to know the full grindelwald story [15:58] <fawkes28> i just want to say thank you [15:58] <Spectre> Will Muggles be involved more than in previous books [15:58] <Dreamteam> I'd ask whether she will ever write another series, or whether they will be stand-alone books [15:58] <fawkes28> i want to read it myself [15:58] <Joyhawk2121> I would not ask anything about the book [15:58] <cloudpic> I don't like suspense.... but I don't like being spoiled... but from Jo herself?!? [15:58] <fawkes28> well, i may ask her to write a few back stories [15:58] <Puzzlepiece> I wouldnt ask about book 7 specifically. maybe about back story [15:59] <JaneMarple9> oooo I'd ask her if Neville is going to survive [15:59] <cloudpic> Oh, yes! Beg! for more! [15:59] <kadi> yes, agreed puzzle! [15:59] <Puzzlepiece> fawkes. what are oyou going to ask in your 30 seconds? [15:59] <JaneMarple9> if i meet her before Deathly Hallows [15:59] <Dreamteam> Yes like whether she will write the encyclopaedia, I want to know Sirius' story and DDs and Snape's and lots more [15:59] <cloudpic> I'm not surprised, Jane, he's important to some of us. [15:59] * cbm is so lost thinking what he would ask her, he would probably stand there with my mouth hanging open [15:59] <ProngsPatronus> lol--well, yes--beg for Hogwarts: A History! [15:59] <fawkes28> gosh, i have only gotten to thank you [15:59] <fawkes28> if I will be able to talk [15:59] <Spectre> Backstories are fun smile I'd ask about Luna/Lockhart lessons, this bugs me for quite a lot of time biggrin [15:59] <cloudpic> LOL.... that would likely be me too, cbm [15:59] <fawkes28> i cant seem to come up with what to say [15:59] <JaneMarple9> and if after - please, please please write Hogwarts a History [16:00] <JaneMarple9> pretty please with sugar on the top laugh [16:00] <LJ> fawkes - will you tell her about Leaky? [16:00] <cloudpic> ....and spice and everything nice! [16:00] <Puzzlepiece> would you rather Hogwarts: A History or an Encyclopedia? [16:00] <kadi> i'd like to read the dumbledore biography [16:00] <Aradragoon> off topic a little but, does anyone think they will make a harry potter MMORPG? That could be quite fun. [16:00] <fawkes28> maybe [16:00] <JaneMarple9> smile cloud [16:00] <ProngsPatronus> well, folks, it has been a great chat! [16:00] <cloudpic> Both! [16:00] <LJ> haha, I get the pleasure of asking you all this in person soon biggrin [16:00] * cloudpic says greedy soul [16:00] <Dreamteam> Yes both please [16:00] <kadi> MMORPG? [16:00] <JaneMarple9> MMORPG?????????????????? [16:00] <Aradragoon> x.x [16:00] <fawkes28> hahaha i am sure you will bug me too [16:00] <cbm> I would be willing to bet she knows about the lounge [16:01] <Aradragoon> massive multiplayer online role playing game [16:01] <Puzzlepiece> she does. [16:01] <JaneMarple9> ok whats that MMORPG? [16:01] <Aradragoon> like world of warcraft [16:01] <kadi> that is an out of control acroynm biggrin [16:01] <Dreamteam> she does because she knows about our spoiler policy [16:01] <fawkes28> I may tell her about the Corner Booth - but remember she already knows [16:01] <cbm> we know she knows about the news part [16:01] <fawkes28> she was here! [16:01] <Joyhawk2121> thanks for the chat and bye everyone [16:01] <cloudpic> Goodness, Puzzle, that was an enigmatic reply.... [16:01] <kadi> perhaps aradragoon, if there is a market for it i'm sure we'll have it at some point [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> thanks everyone! [16:01] <JaneMarple9> take care all [16:01] <fawkes28> Thanks for coming everyone! We got to close the booth smile [16:01] <cloudpic> bye, Joy! [16:01] <LJ> 'course she was ;) [16:01] <cbm> when? [16:01] <ProngsPatronus> time to turn out the lights [16:01] *** Joyhawk2121 left #lounge [] [16:01] <Theoriser> thanks for chatting everyone, hope you enjoyed the chat [16:01] <Puzzlepiece> have an amazing summer, all [16:01] <Spectre> bye all smile [16:01] <cloudpic> Goodbye all ((hugs)) [16:01] <Aradragoon> bye all [16:02] <Dreamteam> thanks for a great chat. Bye [16:02] <Aradragoon> :) [16:02] <cbm> bye all [16:02] <LJ> this was great [16:02] <Puzzlepiece> hope you all enjoy the book as much as I will [16:02] *** Dreamteam left #lounge [] [16:02] <cloudpic> We will, this summer will be awesome! [16:02] <cbm> It was fun, I wish I had been here earlier [16:02] *** Spectre has quit [Bye] [16:02] <Aradragoon> yes it will! [16:02] <ProngsPatronus> thanks, guru, for an entertaining chapter [16:02] <ph63915> thanks all, good night [16:02] <cloudpic> Terrific chapter, guru!! [16:02] <fawkes28> this was an awesome chapter - Guru did an excellent job [16:02] *** cbm has quit [Bye] [16:02] *** ph63915 left #lounge [] [16:02] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [16:02] <Aradragoon> thx Guru bye all [16:02] <Puzzlepiece> thanks for all the chats! See you all in August [16:02] *** MafaldaWeasley left #lounge [] [16:03] *** Aradragoon left #lounge [] [16:03] *** Theoriser has quit [Bye] [16:03] *** Puzzlepiece has quit [Bye] [16:03] * kadi is waiting for the boot [16:03] <kadi> (she is evile) [16:03] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [16:03] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [16:04] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [16:04] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [16:04] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [16:04] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [16:04] <kadi> kelly is indecisive [16:04] <ProngsPatronus> time to go, folks [16:05] <RudiusHagrid> ok bye [16:05] *** RudiusHagrid has quit [Bye] |
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