PotterCast 148: The Trial, 20 April 2008 |
 Apr 19 2008, 08:23 PM
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Leaky's favorite mischief maker!  Posts: 1,452 Joined: 7:21am November 16, 2006 Location: a place of settlement, activity, or residence   |
 The 148th episode of PotterCast, our Harry Potter podcast, is online this evening with an extended discussion of the JKR/WB vs. RDR Books trial which took place in New York City this past week. First, we bring you a few Harry Potter news updates including Jim Broadbent's comments on his character of Horace Slughorn in the sixth film, the clothing styles of Narcissa Malfoy in HBP, and the 18th birthday of Emma Watson. The remainder of this episode features a recap of the three day trial as well as discussion of the testimony, witnesses, events in the courtroom, and the possible effects these events could have on the fandom. To listen, just hit the "Play" button on the right side of leakynews.com, or use iTunes, or direct download. "The Trial" - JKR/RDR Books Trial coverage from Manhattan, Melissa and John are there. - Effects on the fandom. - It all hits close to home. - Movie news and Emma is 18. - 24 hours of testimony. RT: 74:22 Editors: Stede Bonnett LeakyCon 2009: A Harry Potter Conference in Boston Podcast Alley Digg Terminus 2008 Direct download (34 MB). Direct download low-bandwidth (9 MB). Remember you don't need an iPod to listen. Listen easily on iTunes, which you can download and install here, by clicking here to listen, or you can just use the streaming Flash player at PotterCast.com or just on the right side of leakynews.com. Discussion of the PotterCast is right here. Enjoy! This post has been edited by EdwardTLC: Apr 19 2008, 08:29 PM -------------------- avatar done for me by jeffhpfan
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Apr 19 2008, 08:37 PM
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Firebolt-Polisher at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 1,050 Joined: 9:23pm April 14, 2006 Location: Buffalooo!! |
Omg how cool its out already! I've yet to listen, but I'm really looking forward to this episode, even though I'm predicting it won't be the most light hearted one out there.
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Apr 19 2008, 08:38 PM
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Newest Housekeeper at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 749 Joined: 10:06pm July 16, 2007 Location: Frederick, Maryland |
A PotterCast out on a Saturday? Woot.
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Apr 19 2008, 09:07 PM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes Posts: 340 Joined: 5:36pm December 7, 2005 Location: hoping to loose the stupid sinus problems... |
Yayyyy!
 Saturday Pottercast... I'm pumped.
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Apr 19 2008, 09:21 PM
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Ollivander's Wand Organizer Posts: 2,333 Joined: 10:29pm July 29, 2005 Location: Catching the world in the headlights of my justice |
Melissa said something in this PotterCast that I found to be particularly interesting. She commented that if JK Rowling said, you know, Melissa, I really don’t like commentary x in your book, please remove it, she would fight Jo on that point. This is not, she hastened to add, what is happening in Steve’s case. John said he had no sympathy for Steve because Steve had needlessly gone against Jo’s wishes and he was in the wrong. (I’m paraphrasing, obviously, so forgive my lack of quotes. ;))
All of that makes sense. If you thought JKR was legally in the wrong, you would fight her on it. Because in this case you obviously think she is in the right, you would not fight her and have no sympathy for Steve, because he is in the wrong. Thing is, Steve obviously disagrees with you. This is why I have sympathy for him, John. Because he clearly believes that JK Rowling is unfairly attempting to stop publication of his book, and that upsets him, just as Melissa would be upset if JK Rowling unfairly attempted to stop the publication of her book. Just because you disagree with him on that point does not mean that he is necessarily wrong. When so many legal experts – and I don’t think any of you fall into that category – have sided on RDR Books’ side, it seems sort of silly to me for you all to say, well, he’s wrong, and therefore I have no sympathy. Can’t you acknowledge that while you might disagree, he clearly believes he is being unfairly attacked? -------------------- Avatar by An_Eternal_Night "Look for me when the sun bright sparrow sings upon the birch bough high..." - The Decemberists |
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Apr 19 2008, 09:21 PM
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The 8th Weasley Child  Posts: 833 Joined: 9:58am January 14, 2006 Location: On the internets |
I want to say a big thank you to all of the PotterCasters for this episode. The trial is clearly a divisive and emotional issue, and you all discussed it extremely eloquently and informatively. I was gripped the entire time, and agreed with all of your comments. I felt most of the time that you were expressing my thoughts in a much more articulate manner than I could, so thank you.
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Apr 19 2008, 09:25 PM
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MelvinTLC  Posts: 2,700 Joined: 1:57pm January 4, 2005 Location: My happy place  |
Elizabeth, the difference you haven't noted is that we're not syaing, "Because we agree with Jo": We're saying "because Jo is not disputing our right to have whatever opinion under the sun we want." If Jo's basis for arguing with my book was that she didn't want me to make commentary, we'd have a sincere disagreement. (I never worry about that because I am absolutely certain Jo believes in an individual's right to make commentary.) That is absolutely 100 percent not what is happening in the Lexicon case.
And what John said (a few times, I believe) was specifically NOT that he doesn't agree with Steve and therefore Steve gets no sympathy (that'd be a very silly argument, I agree, which is why it wasn't made); he said he felt no sympathy for him feeling ostracized from fandom, because he feels it was only his actions that did the ostracizing. That's a huge difference that I, and I'm sure many others, would appreciate being brought into the discussion. It's certainly an opinion John has the right to have: That Steve has made his bed and he didn't feel the reason that Steve was upset on the stand (that he doesn't feel part of the community) merited particular sympathy. As for the legal experts that have sided with RDR/SVA: Well, the ones from FUP have a clear higher agenda, and almost all the others (at least the ones I've read though I'm fairly sure I've read them all) have either shown or admitted non-familiarity with all elements of the case. I had an excellent discussion with Tim Wu the other day for a New Yorker article, that I sincerely hope makes it to press. -------------------- "I am not big enough to love things the way I do!"
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Apr 19 2008, 09:40 PM
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Ollivander's Wand Organizer Posts: 2,333 Joined: 10:29pm July 29, 2005 Location: Catching the world in the headlights of my justice |
QUOTE It's certainly an opinion John has the right to have: That Steve has made his bed and he didn't feel the reason that Steve was upset on the stand (that he doesn't feel part of the community) merited particular sympathy. He certainly has the right to any opinion he likes. What I'm trying to say is that yes, obviously it was Steve's own actions that ostracized him from the fandom - not denying that - but he believes he has been unfairly ostracized. He seems to believe that everyone has turned from him - Rowling, the fans, the fansites, etc., all because Jo is trying to stop him publishing a book that he seems to think he has the right to publish. Now, I happen to believe he's wrong on that last point, but I still feel sympathy towards him. To believe that everyone has turned from you and your reputation has been ruined because your actions are being unfairly painted would be a really terrible spot to be in. eta: Looking forward to the New Yorker article. This post has been edited by elizabeth18: Apr 19 2008, 09:40 PM -------------------- Avatar by An_Eternal_Night "Look for me when the sun bright sparrow sings upon the birch bough high..." - The Decemberists |
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Apr 19 2008, 09:44 PM
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MelvinTLC Posts: 2,700 Joined: 1:57pm January 4, 2005 Location: My happy place |
elizabeth, you are a person of great sympathy, then, and it speaks very well of you. None of us wants anyone harmed, that's not the point. It's just an opinion thing, then, I guess. I have no doubt many will disagree with John in this episode - this area of the Lounge is not exactly known, of late, as being a one-opinion-board.
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Apr 19 2008, 09:53 PM
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Flesh-Eating-Slug Catcher Posts: 146 Joined: 10:01pm January 28, 2007 Location: Sand Lake, MI 49343 |
Just downloaded the episode, put it in the playlist. This should be interesting...
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