PotterCast Corner Booth Transcript: Jan 16, 2007, PC #72 - The Ultra Megazord Mailbag |
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[16:03] * cbm is coming to you from New Jersey via dialup, this should be interesting [16:03] <BrettMac> lol im just listening to pc 72 right now...i havent had time [16:03] <fawkes28> lol cbm [16:04] <danae24> but it's good that you are here cbm [16:04] *** Pellinore has joined #lounge [16:04] <kaelgirl> lol [16:04] <cbm> true [16:04] *** NickTLC has joined #lounge [16:04] <kaelgirl> I'm listening to #72 again, just to refresh [16:04] <cbm> I listened last night, I could not sleep well in my room [16:04] * BrettMac wishes he had bothered listening to the show earlier today so he wouldnt get all confused [16:04] *** britishemma has joined #lounge [16:05] <fawkes28> it was a great episode! [16:05] <danae24> I listened this morning...... [16:05] <britishemma> Hello. [16:05] *** suzb has joined #lounge [16:05] <NickTLC> Ah, I probably ought to have listened to it... biggrin [16:05] <danae24> hi britishemma!!!! [16:05] <suzb> hey all! [16:05] *** Theoriser has joined #lounge [16:05] <cbm> I enjoyed it, I found myself agreeing with John on some things, I might need to rethink them now smile *** Theoriser has joined #lounge *** Topic is: PotterCast #72 *** Topic set by fawkes28 [Thu Dec 7 20:19:15 2006] <cbm> I enjoyed it, I found myself agreeing with John on some things, I might need to rethink them now :) *** HPotterExpert2 has joined #lounge [21:04] <fawkes28> hello all :) [21:04] <danae24> agreeing with John is dangerous to your health [21:04] *** HPotterExpert2 has quit [Bye] [21:04] <kaelgirl> lol [21:04] <MrMcGonagall> Hi suz and theoriser, and HPE2! [21:04] <britishemma> Hey! Emma is cool, btw. It is episode 72 we are talking about? [21:05] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, 72. [21:05] <fawkes28> We will start at quarter after [21:05] <fawkes28> for now we just chat to give people time to get here [21:05] <cbm> I agree with John that peter was at Godrics Hollow, not Snape [21:06] <britishemma> Okay, dokey. So how is everyone? [21:06] <danae24> I'm too cold........ it isnt supossed to be this cold here in Arizona [21:06] <suzb> danae did you have any luck with getting PC~72? [21:06] <fawkes28> it does seem to be cold everywhere [21:06] <kaelgirl> over here we have at least 2 inches of ice [21:06] <kaelgirl> I tried sledding, and I busted my chin [21:06] <fawkes28> that is horrible [21:06] <danae24> yes I did suzb!!!!..... I had to unsuscribe to get it...... [21:06] <cbm> It was warmer than normal here this morning, it is going to be cold tomorrow [21:07] <MrMcGonagall> I hear you, Danae. I was sledding this afternoon and nearly smashed into a tree. [21:07] <NickTLC> Ooh [21:07] <fawkes28> that is what it was like yesterday for me, cbm [21:07] <danae24> the bad thing is that it's just cold, there isnt snow or ice, just cold air, and that is not fun at all.......... [21:07] <NickTLC> It cuts through you, yeah, this cold air [21:07] <kaelgirl> Arizona is dry already. Cold and dry isn't fun [21:08] <danae24> you said it Kael! [21:08] <MrMcGonagall> I think everyone in Oklahoma would settle for just having cold air right now. [21:08] <britishemma> We had snow two days ago, it is so hard it is like the ground. It is not nice! [21:08] <fawkes28> It seems to be an odd January for everyone with weather [21:08] <danae24> it does seem like it........... maybe this year will be a funny weather year [21:08] <britishemma> I liked December. [21:08] <kaelgirl> Missouri never gets a normal winter, and for some reason we're having one [21:09] <Theoriser> you all seem to be having interesting weather [21:09] <Theoriser> it's just normal here [21:09] *** BrettMac has quit [Bye] [21:09] <suzb> the weather is boring here [21:09] <danae24> lucky Theoriser! [21:09] <fawkes28> lol suzb [21:09] <cbm> I am traveling on business, it does not really matter what the weather is [21:10] <suzb> ah well we might get slush by march [21:10] <fawkes28> as long as everyone stays safe in this weather :) [21:10] <danae24> ok, I'm sorry I have to leave so soon, but It's lunch time!!! and then I have to make my bags, because I have to go to my college to arrange the whole graduation thing..... [21:10] <danae24> see ya later guys!!! [21:11] <kaelgirl> bye danae [21:11] <fawkes28> bye danae [21:11] <suzb> bye danae [21:11] <cbm> bye [21:11] *** danae24 left #lounge [] [21:12] * cbm is wondering if I lost my connection [21:12] <fawkes28> all is well :) [21:12] <Theoriser> nope, we're just a little quiet here [21:13] <cbm> np [21:13] <fawkes28> we'll be starting in a minute [21:13] <suzb> anyone want to join me in my rubbish dancing i am doing to advert music? [21:13] <cbm> I just changed my firewall settings and thought I had kicked myself out [21:13] <MrMcGonagall> We're glad you're still here cbm! :) [21:13] <kaelgirl> lol [21:14] <MrMcGonagall> No invisibility cloaks here! [21:14] <britishemma> lol [21:14] <cbm> lol [21:14] <fawkes28> why not, mr. m? [21:14] *** roonwit has joined #lounge [21:14] <Theoriser> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [21:14] <Theoriser> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [21:15] <Theoriser> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [21:15] <Theoriser> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [21:15] <Theoriser> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [21:15] <fawkes28> Today we are here to discuss PotterCast 72, which according to John, has been the best PC 72 they have done so far this year :p [21:16] <fawkes28> In your opinion, is 4 weeks straight too much to be talking about the new title? [21:16] *** blathnat has joined #lounge [21:16] <MrMcGonagall> Well, honestly I think it might be a bit much. [21:16] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, blathnat! [21:16] <Pellinore> not as long as they're bringing something new to the table ;o [21:16] <blathnat> hey guys [21:16] <fawkes28> Well, for now a title is all we have [21:16] <Theoriser> I'm sure the title is the only thing that people want to talk about at the moment [21:16] <kaelgirl> for the title alone, it could be a but much [21:16] <fawkes28> great minds, theoriser [21:16] <cbm> no, they are still doing a good job, especially since they had other input [21:17] <suzb> as llong as they arent just going over the same theories i thik its fine [21:17] <fawkes28> I think the title is fascinating - we won't know what it really is until it comes out [21:17] <fawkes28> and they are presenting it from different angles which I think keeps it fresh [21:17] <kaelgirl> thats true. I'm not getting bored yet. [21:18] <britishemma> I am relistening to the PodCast. and they are rambaling about pedicures. [21:18] <fawkes28> Will you ever get tired of discussing/hearing theories? [21:18] <MrMcGonagall> But it's precisely because we won't know until Book 7 that most of the discussion of the title is pure speculation. [21:18] <cbm> I think 4 shows with just the 4 of them and no other input would be a bit much, but they are changing it up [21:18] <kaelgirl> I love hearing theories, whether they're bad or not [21:18] <Theoriser> me too kaelgirl [21:19] <blathnat> theories are what make the potterverse go round :P [21:19] <fawkes28> probably in a few months [21:19] <fawkes28> but for now it is still exciting [21:19] <britishemma> I love hearing theories as long as they are not completely and utterly stupid. A girl in my economics class said that a dragon was going to burn the Hallows and Harry was going to die. [21:19] <britishemma> I was like huh.. [21:19] <kaelgirl> for the meantime, theories are all we've got, unless Jo releases more info about the books [21:19] <Pellinore> once book 7 is out and JkR has written the Encyclopedia of Harry Potter facts o; [21:19] <Theoriser> lol [21:19] <cbm> I get turned off by some far out theories. [21:19] <fawkes28> BWhat do you think of the news Bloomsbury has not given permission for pre-orders because Jo is still writing? [21:19] <Theoriser> as long as they have some evidence to back them up, it's ok [21:20] <fawkes28> What do you think of the news Bloomsbury has not given permission for pre-orders because Jo is still writing? [21:20] <NickTLC> It's always fun to compare popular theories to what actually ended up happening, like looking back at the theories about what would happen in Order of the Phoenix, or in Half-Blood Prince [21:20] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [21:20] <JaneMarple9> Hello all! [21:20] <cbm> I think it is the right thing to do [21:20] <kaelgirl> I say "huzzah for Bloomsbury" [21:20] <fawkes28> Yes, which is why Leaky is so great - we can look back at our theories and see how close we were [21:20] <NickTLC> Hi Jane :) [21:20] <NickTLC> :wave: [21:20] <MrMcGonagall> Well, bookstores are bound to do it anyway. [21:20] <suzb> hi jane [21:20] <fawkes28> exactly, kaelgirl! :) [21:21] <MrMcGonagall> They're trying to get the jump on things and have people pre-order through them before anyone else. [21:21] *** LindsayD has joined #lounge [21:21] <britishemma> I love that little snippet. I think that it was really stupid. My mum was really, considering ordering it. It sought hit things out of perportion [21:21] <fawkes28> hi lindsay [21:21] <LindsayD> Hi [21:21] <JaneMarple9> yeah theories are great to see how wrong we were! [21:21] <blathnat> i am glad bloomsbury did it [21:21] <cbm> It is not like you will get it any sooner if you preorder [21:21] <britishemma> I want it to come out on the same date HBP did. [21:21] <fawkes28> People get so excited over a possible release date and go crazy - it is good that Bloomsbury stepped in [21:21] <MrMcGonagall> Very true cbm. That's why I don't bother with the whole pre-order. [21:21] <Theoriser> it really annoys me that bookstores are saying that there's a release date, as well [21:22] <kaelgirl> me too, Theoriser [21:22] <MrMcGonagall> That does annoy me, Theoriser. [21:22] <JaneMarple9> i am still hoping for July 31 - Harrys and Jo's Birthday - or Hallowe'en [21:22] <fawkes28> the bookstores are just looking to make money [21:22] <Pellinore> Bloom and others have to do what they are doing to get orders and save face. May get very crazy once the due date is out. [21:22] <NickTLC> I think it's interesting that Amazon tried so hard to get started on pre-orders--like MrMcGonagall said, they were probably trying to get early profits [21:22] <suzb> it will be funny if the price is really high for the book and amazon loses out [21:22] <fawkes28> What does this do for the chances of a summer release? [21:22] <cbm> It is too late to be out in July if they have the same schedule as last time, 7 months from her anouncement of manuscript delivery to publish date [21:22] <MrMcGonagall> I never thought a summer release was likely, since Jo was still writing at Christmas time. [21:22] <britishemma> I can't wait till the date comes out. I can't believe a bunch of stores won't even stock it because they will not make a profit. [21:22] <Pellinore> Doubt pre-orders will have much if any impact on when its released. [21:23] <JaneMarple9> Soon as we get a firm date I will be pre-ordering [21:23] <fawkes28> I think a summer release date would be pushing it - It is far to early and she is not even done writing it! [21:23] <kaelgirl> I think by now a summer release is a bit soon [21:23] <cbm> It is getting slimmer [21:23] <NickTLC> In a way, it's good that it might not come out at the same time as the film, so that one doesn't overshadow the otehr [21:23] <NickTLC> *other [21:23] <LindsayD> i agree [21:23] <NickTLC> I'm sure that Warner Brothers is sighing a bit in relief [21:23] <MrMcGonagall> I think so too, Nick! [21:23] <kaelgirl> most likely, Nick [21:23] <JaneMarple9> summer release is getting a little close...unless...what happens if te book is already at the publishers??? :wizard: [21:24] <Pellinore> JkR will finish it when she wants to. She's a multi-Millionaire and can do what she wants. Besides the 7th book is the most important in the series to get perfect. [21:24] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo will tell us when she finishes the manuscript. [21:24] <cbm> I think that Warner and JKR worked out the dtes together, the announcement of the movie date came one week after JKR visited the set [21:24] <britishemma> Definatly. I want the last book more than OoTP. I love OoTP but Book seven is so, so, I don't know. I want it. [21:24] *** LindsayD left #lounge [] [21:24] <cbm> dates [21:24] <fawkes28> you are right, pellinore. she is going to take her time [21:24] <kaelgirl> I'm sorta hoping for a really late release, because I don't want it to end [21:24] <NickTLC> Ah, I hadn't realized that, cbm [21:24] <JaneMarple9> oh i want the book more than the film too [21:24] <fawkes28> me too, kaelgirl [21:24] <kaelgirl> maybe 2008 or 2009 [21:24] <JaneMarple9> The film looks good [21:25] <fawkes28> i don't want it to be over so quickly - we still have lots of theories to discuss! [21:25] <MrMcGonagall> I want DH as soon as Jo is happy with it and the editing is done. [21:25] <JaneMarple9> nooooooo not 2008..2009! :( too long to wait [21:25] <JaneMarple9> for me anyway :D [21:25] <kaelgirl> I agree fawkes [21:25] <fawkes28> We also found out this week that Warner Brothers is going to re-release the first 4 HP movies in hi-def. Do you plan on purchasing these new DVD's or would you only purchase if new features (such as commentaries) are made available? [21:25] <britishemma> It would be great that it came out in the end of 2007 [21:25] <cbm> I expect the book to be release in the fall, september at the earliest so that OotP is out of the theaters [21:25] <NickTLC> I'm thinking that in a maneuver of ultimate Peevesian raspberrying, Bloomsbury and the other publishers ought to release it on 7/8/07 [21:25] <Pellinore> If JkR really wants to milk the franchise she'll not release the 7th book until the 6th movie is out. 7th book has the possibility of ending the hype. [21:25] <cbm> Not until I get a hi-def tv :( [21:25] <fawkes28> lol nick [21:26] <fawkes28> Right - I would rather have extended versions than hi-def [21:26] <JaneMarple9> only purchase them when they get commentries [21:26] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think I would get them. I'm happy enough with my current DVDs. [21:26] <Theoriser> yeah, I don't have a hi-definition tv so it would be a bit useless [21:26] <kaelgirl> I want more extras. Hi-def is nothing without more stuff [21:26] <NickTLC> I know that people had been waiting for and anticipating some sort of box-set re-release of the movies [21:26] <Pellinore> no on HD disks of movies I already have when i don't have a HD TV. [21:26] <NickTLC> And yeah, as Jane mentions--with commentaries! [21:26] <JaneMarple9> and same with cbm - no hi-def tv here ether :D [21:26] <britishemma> I am going to buy them if they are less than 30 bucks each. It would be lovely to have commetaries, but I don't neeed it that much [21:27] <cbm> Then we have to see which hi-def format wins blueray or the other one [21:27] <blathnat> whats the point i dont have a HD TV and i allready have them on normal DVD [21:27] <JaneMarple9> i know goblet has got commentries but I want them all to have them...and with tons of extras [21:27] <Pellinore> They are making players that can play both types cbm [21:27] <kaelgirl> I agree, Jane [21:27] <britishemma> I agree, blathnat [21:27] <fawkes28> Moving on to the mailbag segment…This episode is very heavy on Godric's Hollow issues. Do you think that the story is following an arc of the 7th book being related back to the 1st one? Why or why not? [21:28] *** Love4Fawkes has joined #lounge [21:28] <Theoriser> I don't really agree with that theory [21:28] <kaelgirl> I think people want it to relate to the 1st because there could possibly be a pattern. I don't see it, but others do [21:28] <MrMcGonagall> I think so. I believe there's a lot in the first book that bears relevance for the last. It just seems to be the way Jo is structuring it. [21:28] <blathnat> It would be cool [21:28] <fawkes28> Yes, I definitely think that the books follow an arc, or mirror each other [21:28] <britishemma> Yes, It is just for me, a good book always realates to the first one in the series, in a little way atleast. [21:29] <fawkes28> The 2nd and 6th books are the most similar - 3 and 5 are also similar [21:29] <Pellinore> I would assume so, at least to some inclusion of Godric's but it may not be the end of the book finally. [21:29] <kaelgirl> it would be a cool effect to have the books be full circle [21:29] <Theoriser> I think that there will be a lot linked in with the first book, but I don't think that is because the books are purposely meant to mirror each other [21:29] <JaneMarple9> 2 and 6 are veru very alike [21:29] <cbm> Aren't they going to Godric's in the summer after privet [21:29] <blathnat> but to many books do that [21:29] <fawkes28> I think the first and the last will complement each other nicely - I am sure there will be many clues in the first book that we see play out in the final book [21:29] <britishemma> I think 4 was more of a plot twist for series. It may be related to 7 or 1 [21:29] <JaneMarple9> but not sure what book 7 will be similar too [21:29] <Pellinore> I think so cbm [21:29] <suzb> i agree, theoriser [21:29] <Love4Fawkes> i agree theoriser, i think harry is just in a place that he needs to find out about things that happened in book 1 [21:30] <roonwit> The final book will mostly be about the horcruxes. I can see Harry going to Godric's Hollow early on, and perhaps finding clues, but the action will mostly be elsewhere. [21:30] <cbm> 4 was the turning point. Like act 3 in a 5 act play [21:30] <fawkes28> exactly, cbm [21:30] <Pellinore> It may be one of those books where the main character is always planing on going somewhere but doesn't end up there until the end. [21:30] <JaneMarple9> I keep going back to Object (Philosphers Stone and Goblet). Place (Chamber of Secrets and Order of the Phoenix) and Person (Prisioner of Azkaban and Half Blood Prince) [21:31] <Love4Fawkes> The order of the phoenix wasn't so much of a place though. more like a group of people [21:31] <fawkes28> Do you like the idea that there is residual magic at Godric's Hollow and that Harry may sense it and learn something from it? [21:31] <britishemma> I don't know what to think about that Roonwit. Because, if the Hallow in the title, is Godric's then I think a tad bit more will be there. [21:31] <JaneMarple9> so i am still thinking Deathly Hallows is a object [21:31] <MrMcGonagall> I think there may be traces of something there. Rather like magical forensics. [21:31] <cbm> I am wondering what will happen when harry encounters the fideleous [21:32] <Pellinore> I would assume Harry learns something at each of the places he goes to. JkR is a teacher after all ;) [21:32] <fawkes28> I think there will be traces there because powerful magic did take place that night [21:32] <cbm> JKR said that the charm does not go away with a person's death [21:32] <britishemma> I agree, Pellinore [21:32] <cbm> brb [21:32] <JaneMarple9> yes Love4Fawkes, that is the only problem with my theory. But Grimmuald place was the home of Order of the Phoenix [21:32] <Love4Fawkes> i do like that idea fawkes [21:32] <fawkes28> I believe Harry will be able to sense it as well - he is very intuitive [21:32] <Theoriser> it's a good idea. I would like to see Harry learn how to sense magic, like Dumbledore did [21:32] <Pellinore> either the Fideleous went BOOOM or Harry's "grandfather'd" in due to being there in the 1st place. would be my guess. [21:33] <MrMcGonagall> I think the visit will help the trio focus on the questions they need to ask about exactly what happened that night. [21:33] <fawkes28> I think we have already seen examples of Harry being able to sense magic [21:33] <Love4Fawkes> there has to be a reason we learned about dd's ability to sense magic [21:33] <blathnat> i have read a fan fic that had a similar idea theroriser [21:33] <roonwit> Surely hallows is plural, so it must be more than one object, if that is what it is. [21:33] <Love4Fawkes> true roonwit [21:33] <suzb> where do you think those are fawkes? [21:34] <fawkes28> I think Ollivander's when he first enters [21:34] <kaelgirl> yeah, he did feel something while in Ollivanders [21:34] <fawkes28> he sense some type of magic and the hairs on his neck prickle [21:34] <Pellinore> I would expect more of a journy to learn how to sense magic rather then Harry just going ... "oh i saw DD do this once.. watch" /wave whoosh tada [21:34] <suzb> thats a good point, id never though of it like that [21:34] <MrMcGonagall> I agree Pellinor. [21:34] <fawkes28> but that is for another chat :) although i would love to talk about it [21:34] <fawkes28> The idea that Hallows could be referring to a sacred burial ground is common. Do you think that Hallows could be referring to a burial site? [21:35] *** blathnat left #lounge [] [21:35] <kaelgirl> When I hear the title, I think of a place, so to me thats one of the options [21:35] *** Shard has joined #lounge [21:35] <Pellinore> nope, i'm in the DH = the 4 horcrux camp [21:35] <fawkes28> hi shard :) [21:35] <Shard> Hi Fawkes [21:35] <Love4Fawkes> no, i think dh are objects [21:35] <MrMcGonagall> Ummm, yeah, I think that's relevant. I really enjoyed this part of the PC discussion. [21:35] <fawkes28> I think that we will see a burial site in DH and it may have something to do with the time [21:36] <Shard> I always felt that Deathly = Adjective and Hallows = Noun, for starters [21:36] <NickTLC> I agree, I think that the hallows are objects, like in Arthurian legend [21:36] <fawkes28> i agree, shard [21:36] <roonwit> If Hallows is a burial site, it unlikely to be at Hogwarts (which we know does not have a graveyard from the Owen Jone's interview). [21:36] <Pellinore> I was thinking though that the Room of Requirement door might point you to a Burial Site if you needed a place to put bodies. [21:36] <britishemma> I don't think JKR would tie it that closely with religion and things like that. [21:36] <Love4Fawkes> that's my favorite theory so far nicktlc [21:36] <Shard> I really like the idea of Burial places of the founders, especially since I think Godric is buried at Godric's Hollow [21:36] <NickTLC> Although Alfonso Cuaron did say in the PoA DVD interview that there is a graveyard at Hogwarts that is going to play a role, but he also said it'd play a role in book seven, so I think he was just giving a fake example of a question he might've asked JKR [21:37] <NickTLC> And, as one might expect [21:37] <fawkes28> I thought that interview was interesting - i wonder how much Cuaron really knows [21:37] <Love4Fawkes> a graveyard might play a role, but i don't think deathly hallows refers to a burial ground [21:37] <NickTLC> we assumed he was giving us a big clue! [21:37] <roonwit> I think Jo's reason for there being a stone circle rather than a graveyard actually relates to the white tomb. [21:38] <Shard> I wonder Nick if there was a slight chance of a language Barrier there, his accent is rather thick and his speech slightly hesitant. I wondered if Jo meant there is no graveyard there on Hogwarts since DD would be the first buried on it's grounds [21:38] <NickTLC> (I meant book six, not book seven, above) [21:38] <Pellinore> I has assumed JkR wanted to avoid a graveyard there since it played such an important role in GoF [21:38] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think Cuaron knows much. I think Jo just told him - no graveyard. [21:38] <Shard> I agree Roonwit, I think that stone scircle is an important unintential clue [21:38] <fawkes28> I think the graveyard has something to do with the Founders [21:38] <Shard> Exaclty MrMcG [21:39] <britishemma> It might be to do with the place that Harry went in GoF. [21:39] <MrMcGonagall> I liked Sue's idea that the founders are probably buried in medieval crypts. [21:39] <fawkes28> Do you think that there is a horcrux at Godric's Hollow? [21:39] <JaneMarple9> hmm to the Riddle house...maybe [21:39] <JaneMarple9> yes [21:39] <Shard> I like Sue's idea as well MrMcG [21:39] <Theoriser> I think there could be [21:39] <britishemma> Yes, I like that idea to MrMcG [21:39] <Shard> Actualy there can't be [21:39] <Theoriser> there aren't many other places that I can think of [21:39] <Love4Fawkes> no, but i think that harry could possibly learn a lot about horcruxs there [21:39] <fawkes28> I think so much has already happened at GH - I think he already had them all made [21:39] <MrMcGonagall> No, I don't think there is, although it seems like LV would have brought an object with him. [21:39] <kaelgirl> I don't think there is... [21:39] <Shard> LV "died" before he got a chance to he wanted to make it with Harry's death of which he didn't get [21:39] <JaneMarple9> I'd say so, something that belonged to Lily perhaps, if not a Horcrux [21:39] <kaelgirl> but maybe he finds a clue to where one is [21:39] *** suzb has quit [Bye] [21:40] <Shard> So there may be a founder artifact there but it isn [21:40] <Pellinore> probably, i'd be suprised if we learned of to many more new places... JkR likes her riddles that people can figure out [21:40] <Shard> t a Horcrux [21:40] <fawkes28> but what about James' death, Shard? [21:40] <roonwit> I would be surprised if the horcruxes are anywhere we have seen, those places are all too public. [21:40] <MrMcGonagall> I agree Shard. [21:40] <britishemma> What would be disgusting is if Voldie put a horcrux as James or Lily's body. [21:40] <Shard> He could have Fawkes but if he wa son his LAST one I think he wanted to wait until Harry was dead [21:40] <Love4Fawkes> oh, i think we've seen some horcruxes hidden in plain sight [21:40] <MrMcGonagall> LV wasn't going to make a horcrux of James' death, though, but Harry's. [21:40] <Shard> Ooo British that's a good thought [21:41] <Shard> Does the living creature or person have to be alive to have a Horcrux?? [21:41] <kaelgirl> I think that LV would put horcruxes in things more permanent [21:41] <Pellinore> nope [21:41] <Shard> Or to be one I mean [21:41] <kaelgirl> not a body [21:41] <Love4Fawkes> right, Mr.M i agree so then he wouldn't have made one [21:41] <Shard> It would be the smart thing to do Kael [21:41] <Pellinore> DD speculated that Nagini was a horcrux so no on the has to be alive [21:41] <britishemma> Yes, but if he thought he could defeat Harry, then he would be proud, He would need some sought of backup [21:41] <kaelgirl> yeah, but what happens when it decays? [21:41] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, he intended to, so he may have had the object with him, but he never had the opportunity to make the intended horcrux at GH. [21:41] <roonwit> Hiding horcruxes in plain sight doesn't seem to be Voldemort's style [21:41] <Love4Fawkes> i don't think a body would be possible [21:41] <fawkes28> Do you think that the final battle will be at Godric's Hollow? [21:42] <MrMcGonagall> No [21:42] <Love4Fawkes> no, but it is JK Rowlings :) [21:42] <Shard> Exaclty MrMcG so the object is likly still there [21:42] <Shard> I rather it not be really [21:42] <fawkes28> I go back and forth between Godric's Hollow and Hogwarts as the final battle [21:42] <Shard> I think it would be better that Harry set up Hogwarts for the final battle [21:42] <roonwit> The final battle will be at Hogwarts (Voldemort still wants to go back there). [21:42] <Love4Fawkes> sorry that last comment was for roonwit. I don't think it will be godric's hollow [21:42] <cbm> Yes, I think so [21:42] <kaelgirl> Godric's Hollow would create a connection between Book 1 and 7, but it isn't practical [21:42] <Shard> Thats why they better not abanon it Roonwit [21:42] <fawkes28> why not, kaelgirl? [21:42] <JaneMarple9> I think it has to be Godric's Hollow [21:42] <Pellinore> only if the body is one of those animated corpse things. Then i could see it preserved at the bottom of that lake in the cave. [21:43] <JaneMarple9> as that is where it began [21:43] <fawkes28> I think Godric's Hollow would bring back the book full circle [21:43] <Pellinore> Final battle at GH would bring it full circle [21:43] *** BrettMac has joined #lounge [21:43] <Pellinore> doh O: [21:43] <Love4Fawkes> we've already seen a battle at hogwarts, i think the final battle will be someplace new [21:43] <Love4Fawkes> or the riddle house [21:43] <fawkes28> great minds, pellinore :) [21:43] <roonwit> Jane: but we know Harry is going to Godric's Hollow near the beginning of the book, not the end. [21:43] <kaelgirl> honestly, don't have a real reason, just my own imagination [21:43] <BrettMac> hi guys, sorry i left i had to do something unexpected [21:43] <britishemma> I hobestly have no idea about the final battle. Could it be at the order's hq? I am leaning toward Godric's hollow [21:44] *** chocolateisnotforbreakfast has joined #lounge [21:44] <cbm> But there is no reason he can go back later. [21:44] <BrettMac> what topic are we on? [21:44] <JaneMarple9> he might have to visit there twice? :) [21:44] <Shard> A new place woud be fine [21:44] <Shard> Where the last battle will be [21:44] <BrettMac> ok thanks [21:44] <roonwit> The ORDER HQ is still protected by the Fidelius charm, so unless Snape fights alone, the battle won't be there. [21:44] <Theoriser> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the PotterCast Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/PotterCast-f104.html. [21:45] <Pellinore> Roonwit, Harry may intend to go to GH but get sidetracked over and over.... typical plot ploy as the momentum builds to its conclusion. [21:45] <BrettMac> i always thought it would be cool if the battle was in the department of mysteries...dunno if that was brought up yet [21:45] <Shard> There is the theory that Harry can't go back to the GH because Peter needs to tell him where it is [21:45] <Shard> 'Good thing he didn't let Peter get killed huh? [21:46] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> how long is a secret kept by a secret keeper? [21:46] <roonwit> I don't see Godric's Hollow being important enough to Voldemort for anything significent to happen there on his side of the story. [21:46] <kaelgirl> I like the idea of Godric's Hollow, but for some reason my mind doesn't want to picture it [21:46] <Pellinore> yea but they had one battle there already. I think she'll do something different. [21:46] <BrettMac> oh! oh! i like that theory...maybe that speters life debt? [21:46] <Shard> Forever I toulg think [21:46] <fawkes28> Will we see priori incantantem in Deathly Hallows? [21:46] <Shard> Sure why not [21:46] <BrettMac> no i dont think [21:46] <roonwit> Shard: Harry lived there though so he must already know the secret. [21:46] <Love4Fawkes> no, i think LV would take care of that [21:46] <kaelgirl> unless LV changes his wand up, probably [21:46] <Shard> I actually think it may be an advatage [21:46] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think so. [21:46] <Shard> I agree Roon but if BEllatrix can [21:46] <Shard> 't go to 12 GP [21:46] <fawkes28> I dont know if Jo will do the same thing twice [21:46] <Pellinore> either that or Harry figuring out how to use the Pensive to pull that memory out of his head so he can watch it that way. [21:46] <kaelgirl> but most likely LV will prevent that from happening [21:46] <britishemma> I don't think so. [21:47] <Shard> It may be possible Harry can't go to GH [21:47] <MrMcGonagall> LV knows how that works now, so he'll strive to avoid it. [21:47] <roonwit> Shard: Harry was there while the secret was active, unlike Bella for 12GP. [21:47] <Shard> My reasoning is that Priori spell causes the exact circumstances Harry needs [21:47] <Shard> That's true Roonwit [21:47] <Pellinore> maybe Dumbledore extracted the memory (or copy of the memory) from baby Harry so he knew what happened at GH. [21:47] <britishemma> Pellinore: He needs to realize he can do that, too. It must be sitting at the back of his mind seeing it done millions of times. He can just get Slughorn to help him them [21:48] <Love4Fawkes> i agree shard, it would be an advantage. that's why i think LV wouldn't allow it to happen again [21:48] <Shard> I agrre Pellinore that Harry needs to see that memory, I think we all do lol [21:48] <BrettMac> Well...i feel left out, i dont know whats goin on :) . i think im just gonna leave. bye everybody! [21:48] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> bye! [21:48] *** BrettMac left #lounge [] [21:48] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, Brett! [21:48] <Love4Fawkes> bye brett [21:48] <Shard> Harry needs to be one on one with LV so PC is a spell that can do that [21:48] <fawkes28> This weeks mail bag also brought us a theory that Harry is the one who informed Dumbledore about what happened because he time-traveled to the past. What are your thoughts on this theory? [21:48] <roonwit> Actually I think Harry can maybe view his own memory of Godric's Hollow (avoiding the need for all this time travel business) [21:48] <Shard> Bye Breett [21:48] <Shard> I like that actually Fawkes [21:49] <fawkes28> I have never liked the time travel theories but this one actually intrigued me [21:49] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> if harry time travels to the past, he needs to fast forward in order to destroy voldie [21:49] <cbm> I do not like it at all [21:49] <Shard> it goes to explain alot of things and even gives a painful thing for him to do [21:49] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> because he can't destroy past voldie [21:49] <Theoriser> it's an intersting theory [21:49] <Shard> But i't not highly probably [21:49] <MrMcGonagall> Absolutely not. [21:49] <Shard> lol [21:49] <fawkes28> I think her theory might actually be possible, which surprised me because i was completely against any more time travel [21:49] <Love4Fawkes> it is an interesting theory, but i dont think its likely [21:49] <Pellinore> No!... <--- I hate timetravel... way to lame of a plot device.. any problem can be solved or resolved by using time travel. Just to weak and would kill the series for me. [21:49] <Shard> If he time travels again I don't think it will be to that moment [21:49] <MrMcGonagall> Don't like it, not gonna happen. [21:49] <britishemma> I also want to talk about the Harry is a horcrux theory. I don't like that because then that would deny the prophecy: One will live. Harry would die to defeat LV [21:50] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> What if harry has to destroy his future self when he destroys voldemort? [21:50] <Shard> What if he time traveled for knowledge though? [21:50] <fawkes28> it may, mr. m [21:50] <kaelgirl> time travel is too confusing [21:50] <fawkes28> Yes, Shard and NOT change anything [21:50] <MrMcGonagall> I wouldn't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility, but it's on the periphery. [21:50] <fawkes28> which is why I am inclined to believe this theory [21:50] <roonwit> Time travel is high risk from the author's point of view, because it is very easy to get badly wrong or just end up confusing. [21:50] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> i agree roonwit [21:50] <fawkes28> if he leaves everything the same but observes, i wouldnt mind if Jo did that [21:50] <Shard> Because she never said no to Time travel it seems like it would happen again, I liked the way she did it in PoA and hope that it's as well done as that was [21:50] <britishemma> Yes, I agree Roonwit [21:51] <Shard> Good point Roonwit [21:51] <Love4Fawkes> she did do a great job in PoA, but I don't think it will happen again [21:51] <MrMcGonagall> Besides the fact that we don't know whether it's possible to travel forward through time. [21:51] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> exactly MrMcG [21:51] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> and that'd be necessary [21:51] <Pellinore> and you can always argue why not just do X or Y and poof problems all solved... Tom Riddle was never born and we have a utopia [21:51] <Shard> I just want to say you can turn back time and you can turn FOWARD time... just saying is all [21:51] <britishemma> I honestly don't think it will happen. I don't think they could use a timeturner because it could be hard to stay out of the way. [21:51] <MrMcGonagall> I still say the destruction of all the Ministry's TTs in OotP was Jo's way of quashing any more TT theories. [21:52] <fawkes28> Can the Deathly Hallows be a type of magical underworld, as in the world beyond the veil? [21:52] <Pellinore> Hopefully MrM [21:52] <Theoriser> good point, Mr M [21:52] <Love4Fawkes> i agree Mr. M [21:52] *** NickTLC has quit [Bye] [21:52] <kaelgirl> I agree, Mr.M [21:52] <fawkes28> If Death Hallows turns out to be a plce, I think it is referring to an underworld [21:52] * Shard snorts in disbelif [21:52] <Theoriser> Melissa seems to like that idea [21:52] <roonwit> MrMcGonagall: Yes, particularly because she mentioned it again in HBP [21:52] <Love4Fawkes> I think the world beyond the world will definately come into play, but i'm not sure that dh refers to it [21:53] <Shard> I agree about the Hero's journey requireing an underworld and I think Harry has done that quite a few times [21:53] <kaelgirl> it could be the veil [21:53] <Shard> Traveled to "an underowld" type place [21:53] <MrMcGonagall> I am still inclined to think that the Deathly Hallows refer to people. Related to the magical underworld, but not a place. [21:53] <britishemma> I want the Deathly Hallows to be a magical underworld. It will be a good plot twist [21:53] <Pellinore> Maybe, but I'm more of a Dead means Dead and there's no comeing back or "visiting". [21:53] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> but would harry return to the MoM again? [21:53] <Love4Fawkes> deathly hallows could be the spirits beyond the veil [21:53] <MrMcGonagall> That's my thinking, Love4fawkes. [21:53] <roonwit> I think the veil is a one-way gateway, you can't come back. [21:53] <JaneMarple9> I don't think the dead can return from the veil [21:53] <fawkes28> Jo has even said that she is writing a Hero's Journey so I think Harry needs to take a trip to the Underworld to fulfill the model [21:54] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think the ddead can return. But there may be a way of communicating with them. [21:54] <Shard> I first thought Deathly Hallow refered to Lily's Sacrifice, a litteral translation is "Deathly Holy" or "Holy Death" which to me means Sacrifice [21:54] <kaelgirl> it would be very Hercules-like [21:54] <JaneMarple9> but i'd be interested if Harry Poked Sirius's two way mirror through the veil [21:54] *** cbm has quit [Bye] [21:54] <Pellinore> I agree with Roonwit and JaneMarple9 [21:54] <britishemma> I agree, MrMcG [21:54] <Love4Fawkes> i agree Mr.M [21:54] <JaneMarple9> waht would the mirror show? [21:54] <kaelgirl> a ghost? [21:54] <Shard> The Mirror didn't show anything, if it wasn't going to work in OOTP why would it work now? [21:54] <Shard> It' [21:54] <britishemma> I would love to agree, Jane, but It seems to hard to belive. [21:55] <Shard> is bizarre really [21:55] <kaelgirl> maybe it works on HAlloween [21:55] <fawkes28> Could it be possible for Harry to travel beyond the veil and back? [21:55] <Shard> That was one of the things she wouldn't talk about... [21:55] <JaneMarple9> perhaps because he is closer to sirius? [21:55] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> with a rope? [21:55] <Shard> I would like to think so Fawkes [21:55] <Pellinore> Nope, one way ticket. [21:55] <kaelgirl> I don't think it's possible. [21:55] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think so. [21:55] <britishemma> No, I don't think that would be possible. If it was, Sirius would have. [21:55] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> I liked the thought of dumbledore sticking his hand in there [21:55] <kaelgirl> if he travels, then he stays there, thus meaning Harry "dies" [21:55] <Shard> Only under special ciurcumstances [21:55] <Love4Fawkes> according to legend, the veil between the underworld and the real world is thinner on All Hallows Eve [21:55] <Pellinore> Jo would be trivilizing death. [21:55] <JaneMarple9> I don't think the veil has a "reverse" [21:55] <kaelgirl> I don't think the veil is death [21:55] <Theoriser> he might be able to if there was some way of stopping him being hurt [21:55] <britishemma> I like that idea Chocolate [21:55] <Shard> Not if somone traded their live for his [21:55] <kaelgirl> just a "beyond", sorta like Lord of the Ring's grey havens [21:56] <Shard> life for his [21:56] <fawkes28> I think he may be able to - it has happened in other books even though it is difficult, it is still quite possible [21:57] <fawkes28> Last question of the day... [21:57] <fawkes28> Do you think that some mysteries were resolved in this episode of PC? If so, which ones? [21:57] <Pellinore> It would have to be monumentally difficult / only happen once in a millinia (stars allign) or you risk making death just a day trip to see the past. [21:57] <Shard> I dont think it would be trivial of Death if someone sacrficed themselves so Harry could live.. Maybe Hagrid [21:57] <Shard> I think the CAnon Connumdrumers got it [21:57] <Shard> Even if we don't know which it is lol [21:57] *** dumbleydore18 has joined #lounge [21:57] <Theoriser> I don't think any mysteries were resolved, but there were a ton of good ideas [21:58] <kaelgirl> hehe, Shard. [21:58] <fawkes28> I think that each conversation we have or listen to helps us to process the information and come up with our own thoughts on the title [21:58] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> don't know how much it's been discussed) is more important than everyone thinks [21:58] <dumbleydore18> hey guys! [21:58] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> dangit [21:58] <Pellinore> I like the discussion about Adverbs/Adjetives but didn't understand it all nor can spell it ;p [21:58] <Shard> hi DD18 [21:58] <JaneMarple9> hey there! [21:58] <fawkes28> These Corner Booth chats always get me thinking and sometimes they influence my opinions on certain topics [21:58] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> snape's love of lily is going to be important, i think, and not discussed enough [21:58] <Love4Fawkes> me too fawkes [21:59] <Shard> I mjust love seeing all the different thoughts on theories [21:59] <dumbleydore18> who's theory was it that was brilliant? That got all the PC trio all excited? That one was awsome! It made sense! [21:59] <Pellinore> Its why i'm hear Fawkes -- to hear things i didn't think of & like ;) [21:59] <kaelgirl> I like theorizing and debunking them [21:59] <JaneMarple9> Got to go all...take care! [21:59] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [21:59] <kaelgirl> its my favorite of the whole Harry Potter experience [22:00] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> this is my first CBchat! [22:00] <Love4Fawkes> i like to bounce ideas around. it gets me thinking [22:00] <chocolateisnotforbreakfast> and love it [22:00] <britishemma> Same here Chocolate [22:00] <fawkes28> Well, it is time to go. Thank you for coming! :) [22:00] <kaelgirl> bye folks. Great chat! [22:00] <Pellinore> Thanks, been interesting :) [22:00] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, everybody! [22:00] <dumbleydore18> awww [22:00] <britishemma> Bye, been interesting. See ya. [22:00] <dumbleydore18> fuey! [22:00] *** Pellinore has quit [Bye] [22:00] *** chocolateisnotforbreakfast has quit [Bye] [22:00] <dumbleydore18> bye [22:00] <Love4Fawkes> poor dumbley just got here. bye everyone [22:01] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [22:01] <Theoriser> hope you all enjoyed the chat [22:01] *** roonwit left #lounge [] [22:01] *** britishemma has quit [Bye] [22:01] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [22:01] <fawkes28> See you next time! [22:01] *** kaelgirl has quit [Bye] [22:01] <fawkes28> shard?? [22:03] <Shard> Yeah nice time every! 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